USA vs. UK Racism. Which Is Worse?
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Since: May 10

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#306 May 14, 2013
justmeagain wrote:
Black people do not have the power to inflict racism to the extent that you white people do to us past, present, nationally and globally included.
LOLWROF!
IntelliGent

Japan

#308 Jun 16, 2013
I was born and raised in London, am a Black British citizen, have American relatives and have visited there (various places on the East coast and Chicago). I'm in neither country now.

The US (at least anywhere that isn't in the deep south) is less overtly racist than the UK is on average. British people who claim the US is more overtly racist most probably haven't even been to the US, making their views little more than a stereotype. Btw American racism (outside the deep south) by and large only seems to take place online.

The racial make up of the US is much more diverse than the UK is (except London and maybe Birmingham, which resemble any US city, but not anywhere else in the country). You'll see more black, brown and yellow faces in the street and alot of them are either born or are considered naturalised Americans. They are well represented in the media and feel patriotism to their country.

In Britain, many of the non-white people (and some of the white people) you will see on the street aren't British citizens, or do not feel a need to integrate into British society outside of their own race/ethnic communities (a consequence of overtly racist incidents through the years by skinhead gangs, the NF (now BNP), and now the EDL)

Both countries suffer from institutional racism and white privilege unsurprisingly.. To say it bluntly, both are predominantly white countries and so its inevitable those two things will exist. But the UK also suffers from the social-classes system. The majority of White Britons are from the poorer working classes counter to the US positive stereotype.

With a lack of education and biased media, these white working class Britons would tend to blame their poverty on non-white Britons and foreign immigrant scapegoats rather than the glaringly obvious class-system in UK society creating these divisions.. all backed by the govt.

In the case of the US racism only seems worse because of the demographic proportion of non-whites to whites being larger there, but the situation is pretty much the same on the other side of the pond. Non-white people in the UK make up 10 percent of the population, whereas in the US it is around 40 percent. Many jails in the UK are filled with Black or Asian (meaning Indian subcontinental) British youth from poorer backgrounds angry and depressed about the status quo, as much as jails in the US are filled with African American and Hispanic youth feeling the same frustrations with their society's status quo.

The manner in which racism is dealt out with is much more overt in the UK considering the above, plus the idea that without large-scale waves of immigration after the second world war Britain would have been a "homogeneous" country (which is BS, considering there has always been conflict and tension between the indigenous Celtic people and the Germanic English people in the country for centuries, but it would have certainly been "mono-racial"). Just check the numerous racist outburst videos on youtube from the UK to convince yourself of this fact.

A problem that racism may have been born out of is that Britons feel no official compulsion (whatever their race or ethnicity) to feel any patriotism to their country, whether by law or by custom, or to identify with any certain cultural traits that are specific to the British lifestyle and outlook.

Patriotism is by and large the one thing that keeps Americans (and other multicultural countries like Germany, South Africa, Singapore or Canada) together and unified regardless of the race of their citizens, each group feels like they should contribute to society. This is not the case in the UK.

Reflecting on those points, I'd have to say the UK is more racist overall, but the difference isn't large enough to be immediately noticeable until you live in the country and bypass the media block the BBC puts in place to save the UK from losing face internationally.
Jesse

York, UK

#309 Aug 2, 2013
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IntelliGent wrote:
I was born and raised in London, am a Black British citizen, have American relatives and have visited there (various places on the East coast and Chicago). I'm in neither country now.
The US (at least anywhere that isn't in the deep south) is less overtly racist than the UK is on average. British people who claim the US is more overtly racist most probably haven't even been to the US, making their views little more than a stereotype. Btw American racism (outside the deep south) by and large only seems to take place online.
The racial make up of the US is much more diverse than the UK is (except London and maybe Birmingham, which resemble any US city, but not anywhere else in the country). You'll see more black, brown and yellow faces in the street and alot of them are either born or are considered naturalised Americans. They are well represented in the media and feel patriotism to their country.
In Britain, many of the non-white people (and some of the white people) you will see on the street aren't British citizens, or do not feel a need to integrate into British society outside of their own race/ethnic communities (a consequence of overtly racist incidents through the years by skinhead gangs, the NF (now BNP), and now the EDL)
Both countries suffer from institutional racism and white privilege unsurprisingly.. To say it bluntly, both are predominantly white countries and so its inevitable those two things will exist. But the UK also suffers from the social-classes system. The majority of White Britons are from the poorer working classes counter to the US positive stereotype.
With a lack of education and biased media, these white working class Britons would tend to blame their poverty on non-white Britons and foreign immigrant scapegoats rather than the glaringly obvious class-system in UK society creating these divisions.. all backed by the govt.
In the case of the US racism only seems worse because of the demographic proportion of non-whites to whites being larger there, but the situation is pretty much the same on the other side of the pond. Non-white people in the UK make up 10 percent of the population, whereas in the US it is around 40 percent. Many jails in the UK are filled with Black or Asian (meaning Indian subcontinental) British youth from poorer backgrounds angry and depressed about the status quo, as much as jails in the US are filled with African American and Hispanic youth feeling the same frustrations with their society's status quo.
The manner in which racism is dealt out with is much more overt in the UK considering the above, plus the idea that without large-scale waves of immigration after the second world war Britain would have been a "homogeneous" country (which is BS, considering there has always been conflict and tension between the indigenous Celtic people and the Germanic English people in the country for centuries, but it would have certainly been "mono-racial"). Just check the numerous racist outburst videos on youtube from the UK to convince yourself of this fact.
A problem that racism may have been born out of is that Britons feel no official compulsion (whatever their race or ethnicity) to feel any patriotism to their country, whether by law or by custom, or to identify with any certain cultural traits that are specific to the British lifestyle and outlook.
Patriotism is by and large the one thing that keeps Americans (and other multicultural countries like Germany, South Africa, Singapore or Canada) together and unified regardless of the race of their citizens, each group feels like they should contribute to society. This is not the case in the UK.
Reflecting on those points, I'd have to say the UK is more racist overall, but the difference isn't large enough to be immediately noticeable until you live in the country and bypass the media block the BBC puts in place to save the UK from losing face internationally.

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#310 Aug 2, 2013
People in the UK is more xenophobic than racist.
Jason

Skokie, IL

#311 Aug 13, 2014
I would say UK is worse. They hide it very well, act like they are tolerant and your best friend and stab you in the back. Girls are a dead giveaway when they won't date you. Obviously knowing them through school and college is not enough. Or being a good guy and smart and decent looking. You need to be white English. They are so sly about it because they are cold and never make it obvious.

Only parts in America which are least racist are big cities or areas of diversity. Promiently white states in America are very upfront about who they don't like and make you feel unwelcome. UK gived you a fake welcome for PC sake but really hate your guts and are trying to figure out where you are from. Like that matters. Also being white but not english makes them more angry because they can't figure you out. And they can't ask you either. Two faced and closet racists.

I would put UK top for concealing it very well and wasting people's time, lives and money. America is more racist based on population and many areas of not much diversity and prominently white states. I would prefer to deal with something face to face then trying to punch something i can't see but can feel. Or someone coming behind me that i am suppose to trust and feel the dagger penetrate my skin.
MrBond

Skokie, IL

#312 Sep 2, 2014
UK is most racist considering all the people from the USA came from UK and Europe. USA you will do very well within big cities like NY, LA and Chicago. USA has it's states that are majorly white populated. UK is institutional and also covert and sneaky. They act all political correct and polite about it but they are for sure.

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Since: Mar 14

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#313 Sep 2, 2014
There is racism in the U.K. no doubt but United States racism is much more worse. In the U.K. Africans are free to dress however they like in the traditional clothing at the job. In America, they will give you dirty looks for doing so.

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