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Please Stop spreading the lie that feminism destroyed the Black community...

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Sense

Brooklyn, NY

#1 Mar 28, 2014
Because if some of your mother's hadn't accepted public assistance while Black men were out of work, you would have starved to death.

Please stop spreading the lie that Black women kicked Black men out of their homes for food stamps. Most Black women hid their men from welfare representatives, and did the best they could with what they had.

Please stop pointing the finger at Black women when it is the man who protects, provides for, and builds the culture.

"60 years ago, Black men and women had a much higher marriage rate. 60 years ago Black men and women were fighting together against Jim Crow laws. There weren't nearly as many thugs as there are today. Black people had to worry about the Klan possibly coming through to bludgeon and hang people, and burn down their towns. Black men were much too busy kowtowing to White men to be thugs in any appreciable numbers.

A little over 50 years ago Black people finally won the fight against Jim Crow Laws. Black men were finally awarded the opportunity to receive the jobs they had long been qualified for. The problem is that White people were still racist, and by the early 70's, White men started firing Black men from those jobs en mass. Black men's fatal flaw was that they didn't listen to Malcolm X when he told them to start their own businesses and not depend on White men to employ them.

Black women had to pick up the slack from Black men and instead of remaining as domestic workers to at times racist White families, they took advantage of their newly afforded opportunity to became admin assistants or secretaries. Black men perceived this as Black women competing with them in the job market and taking jobs from them. Black men blamed Black women for them not being able to support themselves and their families, instead of their own lack of ingenuity. However, admin and secretarial work remain dominated by women even today.

Due to lack of employment, Black men became pimps, and/or began selling heroin in the Black community. This was the first wave that took many Black fathers out of the home. It was mainly men who became heroin addicts. Then came the 80's, and with it, crack cocaine. Crack devastated entire communities by taking both parents out of the home. Even those who had businesses, good jobs, or were in school became crack addicts. It should be noted that even though many Black women entered into office work during the 70's, many more remained in low wage positions earning incomes that were unsuitable to support an entire family. Many of these women received public assistance, and hid their unemployed husbands from welfare representatives.

Another key factor in the destruction of the Black community was the turbulent relationship that Blacks had for years with White police officers. It was long accepted in the Black community that the police department was just another method of keeping Black men subjugated. Thus It was more important to protect Black thugs from White police officers than it was to protect the Black community from Black thugs. Yet Black men presented no alternative protection for the Black community.

The third player in all of this was entertainment. It started with Soul artists such as Curtis Mayfield who made songs like "Pusher Man" (drug dealing) and "Super Fly" (pimping), which glorified the criminal ghetto lifestyle. Base level Soul music devolved into gangster rap or Hip Hop which glorified the thug, and created a culture of aggression, where large swaths of Black men began to act abrasive and aggressive towards Black women. As a response and survival tactic, Black women adopted this same mentality. Through Hip Hop, the thug has become celebrated and normalized in Black culture. In the beginning some Black people spoke out against Hip Hop due to it's glorification of all things toxic in the Black community and it's advocating the degradation Black women. But Black men said "It's just music, you can choose not to listen to it".
Sense

Brooklyn, NY

#2 Mar 28, 2014
To blame feminism is an outright cop out. I wont even call it an oversimplification of matters. Some Black women did jump on the feminist band wagon, however most did not. And the ones who did I'm sure had their own reasons. From what I've read, the Black Panthers where extremely misogynistic and even gang beat a female party member for pulling rank on a Black male. And lest we forget that the Bloods and the Crips are split offs of the Black Panther Party. I suppose Black women are to be blamed for that as well.
Well Bye

Houston, TX

#3 Mar 28, 2014
Sense wrote:
To blame feminism is an outright cop out. I wont even call it an oversimplification of matters. Some Black women did jump on the feminist band wagon, however most did not. And the ones who did I'm sure had their own reasons. From what I've read, the Black Panthers where extremely misogynistic and even gang beat a female party member for pulling rank on a Black male. And lest we forget that the Bloods and the Crips are split offs of the Black Panther Party. I suppose Black women are to be blamed for that as well.
You need an education on what feminism is. There are two types of feminism. One, the feminist movement that fought for equal rights/pay on the job. That brand of feminism was the best there ever was. Women go to work and expect to be treated as equal, and fair pay. Every decent men supported that type of feminism (which were our mothers).

At work, they were the Boss. When they came home, they were the Mom, the Wife and knew their role to let Man be the Head of the household. Those women understood how to "separate" the two image of themselves. One, at home and one, on the job and there was nothing complicated about it.

Years later til now, feminism took on a whole new face-lift for the worst. It spill way outside of the workplace and started effecting Women' attitudes toward Men. Then, it morph in gender wars, cultural wars where Women start to wear the pants in the house and expect Man to wear the dress.

It cause so much conflict and unease that Man spoke up against feminism, men from all walk of life. Believe it or not, it is because of feminism white men seek women outside their race. They became daring, more abusive towards Men, rebellious and borne out of that, Independent where the idea cranked up, "We Don't Need A Man."

That just a brief look look at feminism and how it started off as a good cause and then abused. And today, feminism is a run-away train to nowhere. It destroyed communities, societal views and norms, dating and yes, damage Black Couples' love as feminism doesn't recognize the Black males role in anything....hence, big government to the rescue.
Sense

Brooklyn, NY

#6 Mar 28, 2014
Well Bye wrote:
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You need an education on what feminism is. There are two types of feminism. One, the feminist movement that fought for equal rights/pay on the job. That brand of feminism was the best there ever was. Women go to work and expect to be treated as equal, and fair pay. Every decent men supported that type of feminism (which were our mothers).
At work, they were the Boss. When they came home, they were the Mom, the Wife and knew their role to let Man be the Head of the household. Those women understood how to "separate" the two image of themselves. One, at home and one, on the job and there was nothing complicated about it.
Years later til now, feminism took on a whole new face-lift for the worst. It spill way outside of the workplace and started effecting Women' attitudes toward Men. Then, it morph in gender wars, cultural wars where Women start to wear the pants in the house and expect Man to wear the dress.

It cause so much conflict and unease that Man spoke up against feminism, men from all walk of life. Believe it or not, it is because of feminism white men seek women outside their race. They became daring, more abusive towards Men, rebellious and borne out of that, Independent where the idea cranked up, "We Don't Need A Man."
That just a brief look look at feminism and how it started off as a good cause and then abused. And today, feminism is a run-away train to nowhere. It destroyed communities, societal views and norms, dating and yes, damage Black Couples' love as feminism doesn't recognize the Black males role in anything....hence, big government to the rescue.
Feminism did not destroy the Black community. Address the issues outlined in my post.
The Wise One

Edwardsville, IL

#8 Mar 28, 2014
Feminism is not what women think it is. It was meant for another purpose. the true intentions behind Feminism was to get women out of the house and in to the working field, because back then they could not tax the women population because they didn't work. They were in the house taking care of the children. Second, to put their children into the hands of the state at an early age to be falsely indoctrinated. the true teachers of the child is the family unit. the goal of the communist/Zionist, which Feminism derive from was to destroy the family unit in america and encourage divorce to be the norm. Just take a look at these times.
Sense

Brooklyn, NY

#9 Mar 28, 2014
Get educated wrote:
The following links are from women admitting feminism destroys relationships and marriage.
http://m.youtube.com/watch...
http://m.youtube.com/watch...
http://m.youtube.com/watch...
http://m.youtube.com/watch...
http://m.youtube.com/watch...
http://m.youtube.com/watch...
THE BEST THING THE OP CAN DO IS DISAPPEAR.
This has nothing to do with anything that I've said in my post. It's a red herring. I'm not defending feminism. I'm speaking on the real players that destroyed the Black community. Please address what I've outlined in my post.
Big Knob

United States

#10 Mar 28, 2014
Did feminism address the ecomonic and cultural developement of bp? if it was so wonderful, did uplift bp,? and if it didnt destroy the blk community, then how did it build it up........
Sense

Brooklyn, NY

#11 Mar 28, 2014
The Wise One wrote:
Feminism is not what women think it is. It was meant for another purpose. the true intentions behind Feminism was to get women out of the house and in to the working field, because back then they could not tax the women population because they didn't work. They were in the house taking care of the children. Second, to put their children into the hands of the state at an early age to be falsely indoctrinated. the true teachers of the child is the family unit. the goal of the communist/Zionist, which Feminism derive from was to destroy the family unit in america and encourage divorce to be the norm. Just take a look at these times.
Before the Civil Rights Movement, Black men in America were not given jobs that enabled them to support their entire families. Black women have always had to work in order to aid their husbands in bringing in an adequate income. Feminism enabled Black women to move out of domestic work and other labor jobs into office work.
Sense

Brooklyn, NY

#12 Mar 28, 2014
Big Knob wrote:
Did feminism address the ecomonic and cultural developement of bp? if it was so wonderful, did uplift bp,? and if it didnt destroy the blk community, then how did it build it up........
It's totally irrelevant whether or not feminism helped the Black community when so many other factors are truly responsible for destroying it. Please address the factors that I listed in my post.
Well Bye

Houston, TX

#14 Mar 28, 2014
Sense wrote:
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Feminism did not destroy the Black community. Address the issues outlined in my post.
I read your post. You really didn't define feminism in your post. You gave a brief history what African American went through.

Here, you have several links and youtube of women themselves saying feminism failed. Yet, you arguing with all here who agree, feminism destroys society and yes, it play a huge role in tearing down the Black community and destroyed Black Couples.

I think it's a matter of time before Man curb back that destructive practice and put Woman back in her place. There's enough support by Men and Women alike to agree with this.
The Wise One

Edwardsville, IL

#15 Mar 28, 2014
Sense wrote:
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Before the Civil Rights Movement, Black men in America were not given jobs that enabled them to support their entire families. Black women have always had to work in order to aid their husbands in bringing in an adequate income. Feminism enabled Black women to move out of domestic work and other labor jobs into office work.
you do know Feminism started in 1910 right? It came from France.
Well Bye

Houston, TX

#17 Mar 28, 2014
I think the OP want to the stroke the fires to blast Black men for all things. Of course, anyone with "sense" can see now that, feminism is an epic failure on all levels. There is hardly anything worthwhile nor of traditional values that feminism upholds.

Make you really consider and understand why God put Man over Woman and made her cleave to Man. Eating a forbidden fruit when told not to, is a form of rogue feminism.
Sense

Brooklyn, NY

#19 Mar 28, 2014
Well Bye wrote:
<quoted text>
I read your post. You really didn't define feminism in your post. You gave a brief history what African American went through.
Here, you have several links and youtube of women themselves saying feminism failed. Yet, you arguing with all here who agree, feminism destroys society and yes, it play a huge role in tearing down the Black community and destroyed Black Couples.
I think it's a matter of time before Man curb back that destructive practice and put Woman back in her place. There's enough support by Men and Women alike to agree with this.
The aim of my post was not to define nor defend feminism. It is to highlight the real issues that went into the destruction of the Black community. Whatever part feminism played in destroying Black families is totally dwarfed by the Heroin and Crack epidemic, and the War on Drugs which put thousands of innocent Black men in jail, many of whom where family men.

Feminism is just a cop out for Black men to once again relinquish any culpability that they have in their own demise.
The Wise One

Edwardsville, IL

#20 Mar 28, 2014
I think the OP needs to look more deeper into Feminism.
wake up

Aurora, CO

#21 Mar 28, 2014
"well bye" "get educated" and "ben" are all the same trolling person. look at the isp.
Sri Lankan Warlord

Australia

#22 Mar 28, 2014
Sense wrote:
Because if some of your mother's hadn't accepted public assistance while Black men were out of work, you would have starved to death.

Please stop spreading the lie that Black women kicked Black men out of their homes for food stamps. Most Black women hid their men from welfare representatives, and did the best they could with what they had.

Please stop pointing the finger at Black women when it is the man who protects, provides for, and builds the culture.

"60 years ago, Black men and women had a much higher marriage rate. 60 years ago Black men and women were fighting together against Jim Crow laws. There weren't nearly as many thugs as there are today. Black people had to worry about the Klan possibly coming through to bludgeon and hang people, and burn down their towns. Black men were much too busy kowtowing to White men to be thugs in any appreciable numbers.

A little over 50 years ago Black people finally won the fight against Jim Crow Laws. Black men were finally awarded the opportunity to receive the jobs they had long been qualified for. The problem is that White people were still racist, and by the early 70's, White men started firing Black men from those jobs en mass. Black men's fatal flaw was that they didn't listen to Malcolm X when he told them to start their own businesses and not depend on White men to employ them.

Black women had to pick up the slack from Black men and instead of remaining as domestic workers to at times racist White families, they took advantage of their newly afforded opportunity to became admin assistants or secretaries. Black men perceived this as Black women competing with them in the job market and taking jobs from them. Black men blamed Black women for them not being able to support themselves and their families, instead of their own lack of ingenuity. However, admin and secretarial work remain dominated by women even today.

Due to lack of employment, Black men became pimps, and/or began selling heroin in the Black community. This was the first wave that took many Black fathers out of the home. It was mainly men who became heroin addicts. Then came the 80's, and with it, crack cocaine. Crack devastated entire communities by taking both parents out of the home. Even those who had businesses, good jobs, or were in school became crack addicts. It should be noted that even though many Black women entered into office work during the 70's, many more remained in low wage positions earning incomes that were unsuitable to support an entire family. Many of these women received public assistance, and hid their unemployed husbands from welfare representatives.

Another key factor in the destruction of the Black community was the turbulent relationship that Blacks had for years with White police officers. It was long accepted in the Black community that the police department was just another method of keeping Black men subjugated. Thus It was more important to protect Black thugs from White police officers than it was to protect the Black community from Black thugs. Yet Black men presented no alternative protection for the Black community.

The third player in all of this was entertainment. It started with Soul artists such as Curtis Mayfield who made songs like "Pusher Man" (drug dealing) and "Super Fly" (pimping), which glorified the criminal ghetto lifestyle. Base level Soul music devolved into gangster rap or Hip Hop which glorified the thug, and created a culture of aggression, where large swaths of Black men began to act abrasive and aggressive towards Black women. As a response and survival tactic, Black women adopted this same mentality. Through Hip Hop, the thug has become celebrated and normalized in Black culture. In the beginning some Black p Hip Hop due to it's glorification of all things toxic in the Black community and it's advocating the degradation Black women. But Black men said "It's just music, you can choose not to listen to it".
Very true!!
Well Bye

Houston, TX

#25 Mar 28, 2014
wake up wrote:
"well bye" "get educated" and "ben" are all the same trolling person. look at the isp.
Liar. My IP is hidden, and I'm on a Static IP which changes per logon.
Sense

Brooklyn, NY

#26 Mar 28, 2014
Get educated wrote:
The OP have not produced one shred of objective evidence to substantiate her claim. The only evidence the OP is using is some old wives tales.
Wives tails? Are you [email protected] serious?



Measuring Crack Cocaine and It's Impact:
http://scholar.harvard.edu/files/fryer/files/...

The Impact Of America's War On Drugs On African-American Men And The Black Community:
https://www.youtube.com/watch...
wake up

Aurora, CO

#27 Mar 28, 2014
Get educated wrote:
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don't have anything to do with the evidence
you trolled all day wm. no other evidence is needed. lenoir, nc
wake up

Aurora, CO

#28 Mar 28, 2014
Well Bye wrote:
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Liar. My IP is hidden, and I'm on a Static IP which changes per logon.
ok. sure

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