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Brazil

#770 May 3, 2013
muminfreedomfighta wrote:
<quoted text>I dont doubt that the history in Brasil is better than here in yankland because the whites are in denial about atrocities inflicted on african peoples. At best they minimize the issue. Where i disagree is the non family approach to dealing wirh problems on the continent such as the slavery situation you mentioned. A united front would go a long way to preventing the nnsense going on in all of our communities
When ole Yankland's Confederates lost the CV, thousands arrived to S.America, mostly BRA. ;-) They brought watermelon w/'em, a some Xtra knowledge, together w/ their Yank Black/AA/IViggers slaves, & their N.American Amerindian (Cherokee, Seminole, Mvskoke, Choctaw, Chickasaw, etc.) servants. How come they accepted this new Afro-BRA & S.American Amerindian environment w/o rejections & conflicts, but they couldn't do the same back in the ole Yankland?! ;-) & another Q. How many tons of food ole Yankland destroys every yr to keep its prices up on int'l markets, w/ which @ least 4 bigger African n8ions could be fed?! Let's start w/ basics. ;-) Africa is organized in competitive n8ions, not necessarily all have the same common goal or share the same interest. ;-) Those on top, will try to stay on top, pushin' all the others to the bottom. ;-P

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#771 May 3, 2013
muminfreedomfighta wrote:
<quoted text>Im not saying live in the past but examining it gives you a roadmap to the future. It almost makes slavery seem like a sanitized feelgood story where only the middle passage was tough but you were an unpaid field hand in latin america. If this was so why would the highest rate of slave mortality be in latin america brasil in particular. Why the slave revolts if the abuse was under control. Why didnt the crown grant reparations or repatriation if there was such a docile form of slavery.
I am not approving slavery. Just comparing. Why revolts? Freedom?

BTW
They were allowed to earn wages and buy their way out. Families were not separated as in the USA and once free they could even become president at that time. If you can't see a difference then you have a problem.
UruEuWauWau

Brazil

#772 May 3, 2013
Brainiac2 wrote:
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Yu naci ya pelo e etau casi toh mi tempu eng etau uniu.
Entendi, ahora unah cosita me quedaron ma clara, save. ;-)

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#773 May 3, 2013
Latin America took the lead in abolition of slavery.

1824 Guatemala becomes the first Latin American nation after Haiti to outlaw slavery; Argentina,

Peru, Chile, Bolivia, Paraguay and Mexico follow suit in 1825-1829.

1826-1830 Portugal outlaws slave trade to Brazil, but Brazil continues slavery in its territory.

1840-1845 Colombia, Venezuela, and Ecuador outlaw slavery.

1849 France outlaws slavery.

1863 The Netherlands outlaw slavery.
1865 Slavery outlawed in the United States.
1873 Slavery outlawed in Puerto Rico (a Spanish colony until 1898).


1878 Portugal outlaws slavery in its African colonies.
1886 Slavery outlaws slavery in Cuba (a Spanish colony until 1898).
1888 Brazil outlaws slavery.
http://dept.sfcollege.edu/HFL/hum2461/pdfs/Sl...

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#774 May 3, 2013
UruEuWauWau wrote:
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Entendi, ahora unah cosita me quedaron ma clara, save. ;-)
Luh musigo dil video sunt boriguaa pelo la audienthaul sunt ihla de canariului din un de os viduoares.
UruEuWauWau

Brazil

#775 May 3, 2013
muminfreedomfighta wrote:
<quoted text>Im not saying live in the past but examining it gives you a roadmap to the future. It almost makes slavery seem like a sanitized feelgood story where only the middle passage was tough but you were an unpaid field hand in latin america. If this was so why would the highest rate of slave mortality be in latin america brasil in particular. Why the slave revolts if the abuse was under control. Why didnt the crown grant reparations or repatriation if there was such a docile form of slavery.
Well, in/on Cuba, for Xample, slaves were controllin' the so-called 'lottery', were lucky slaves could win their freedom, instead of money, but they had to pay for it, of course, takin' part in the lottery. ;-) Many gained freedom after only 5 yrs for various reasons, some bein' slaveowner's will or natural death. ;-)
High slave mortality in L.America & BRA in particular? Tropical diseases, war w/ hundreds of thousands of Amerindians, sectarian/tribal wars amongst slaves themselves, etc. Slave revolts?! It depends from country to country, from region to region, from city to city, from slaveowner to slaveowner. ;-) In general, slavery practiced in L.America was of a whole diff. level compared to that in ole Yankland, & even Canada. ;-) When ya talk 'bout BRA, ya have to be very specific, cause BRA is a huge country, in the very beginnin' of the NW coloniz8ion the biggest one in Americas, & every BRA region has its own unique history of interaction between various ethnic groups, races & worlds. ;-) Repar8ions were not allowed/granted for the same reason ole Yankland wants to stay the only superpower in the world. ;-D L.America has a very complex history of interactions between the continents & tens of thousands of diff. groups comin' from these continents. ;-) Ya gotta be specific if ya wanna tackle the prob & history of L.America. MalcomX is not the same as MLK or Mandela. ;-)
UruEuWauWau

Brazil

#776 May 3, 2013
Brainiac2 wrote:
Latin America took the lead in abolition of slavery.
1824 Guatemala becomes the first Latin American nation after Haiti to outlaw slavery; Argentina,
Peru, Chile, Bolivia, Paraguay and Mexico follow suit in 1825-1829.
1826-1830 Portugal outlaws slave trade to Brazil, but Brazil continues slavery in its territory.
1840-1845 Colombia, Venezuela, and Ecuador outlaw slavery.
1849 France outlaws slavery.
1863 The Netherlands outlaw slavery.
1865 Slavery outlawed in the United States.
1873 Slavery outlawed in Puerto Rico (a Spanish colony until 1898).
1878 Portugal outlaws slavery in its African colonies.
1886 Slavery outlaws slavery in Cuba (a Spanish colony until 1898).
1888 Brazil outlaws slavery.
..../Slavery%20Latin%20America %20Chronology.pdf
& yet, NE.BRA st8 Ceara was the 1st BRA st8 to abolish slavery as early as 1884. ;-) In reality slavery in BRA de facto (not de jure), dependin' from st8 to st8, between 1871. & 1885. On top of that, most of the TAS was controlled by Africans & Afro-BRA peeps on both sides of the Antlantic. ;-)
muminfreedomfigh ta

United States

#777 May 3, 2013
Brainiac2 wrote:
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I am not approving slavery. Just comparing. Why revolts? Freedom?
BTW
They were allowed to earn wages and buy their way out. Families were not separated as in the USA and once free they could even become president at that time. If you can't see a difference then you have a problem.
Im only saying that these are humane conditions from the slavemasters point of view where is the problem in looking at it that way. Nobody was signing up to trade places. Freedom was still the goal or else why fight for abolition?

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#778 May 3, 2013
muminfreedomfighta wrote:
<quoted text>Im only saying that these are humane conditions from the slavemasters point of view where is the problem in looking at it that way. Nobody was signing up to trade places. Freedom was still the goal or else why fight for abolition?
I agree. But as a slave given a choice between the twain I would not head north.
muminfreedomfigh ta

United States

#779 May 3, 2013
Brainiac2 wrote:
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I agree. But as a slave given a choice between the twain I would not head north.
Lol. Touche i guess the lesser of two evils applies here.
Genevieve11

Alhambra, CA

#780 May 3, 2013
UruEuWauWau wrote:
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Imma giva ya a hint, no probs. ;-D
- add to this guy 'Amerindian eye', a bit higher cheekbones & ya'll have my face. ;-P
h.ttp://youtu.be/9Nizb4VNKyo
In India they believe I were a tall Assamese or a tall mixed Indian. There ya go. ;-D
Damn you FINE as hell!
Genevieve11

Alhambra, CA

#781 May 3, 2013
UruEuWauWau wrote:
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Imma giva ya a hint, no probs. ;-D
- add to this guy 'Amerindian eye', a bit higher cheekbones & ya'll have my face. ;-P
h.ttp://youtu.be/9Nizb4VNKyo
In India they believe I were a tall Assamese or a tall mixed Indian. There ya go. ;-D
And you are surely a black man. You look like you could be a close relative of mine.

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#782 May 3, 2013
GRAN COMBO - JERRY RIVAS ( entrevista )
muminfreedomfigh ta

United States

#783 May 3, 2013
UruEuWauWau wrote:
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When ole Yankland's Confederates lost the CV, thousands arrived to S.America, mostly BRA. ;-) They brought watermelon w/'em, a some Xtra knowledge, together w/ their Yank Black/AA/IViggers slaves, & their N.American Amerindian (Cherokee, Seminole, Mvskoke, Choctaw, Chickasaw, etc.) servants. How come they accepted this new Afro-BRA & S.American Amerindian environment w/o rejections & conflicts, but they couldn't do the same back in the ole Yankland?! ;-) & another Q. How many tons of food ole Yankland destroys every yr to keep its prices up on int'l markets, w/ which @ least 4 bigger African n8ions could be fed?! Let's start w/ basics. ;-) Africa is organized in competitive n8ions, not necessarily all have the same common goal or share the same interest. ;-) Those on top, will try to stay on top, pushin' all the others to the bottom. ;-P
The African Union does seem to be trying to go in the direction of unification. Brasil and india have been meeting with au to establish a southern trade hemisphere.

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#784 May 4, 2013
UruEuWauWau wrote:
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& yet, NE.BRA st8 Ceara was the 1st BRA st8 to abolish slavery as early as 1884. ;-) In reality slavery in BRA de facto (not de jure), dependin' from st8 to st8, between 1871. & 1885. On top of that, most of the TAS was controlled by Africans & Afro-BRA peeps on both sides of the Antlantic. ;-)
They controlled it? That's ironic.
wino

United States

#785 May 4, 2013
Brainiac2 wrote:
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I agree. But as a slave given a choice between the twain I would not head north.
maybe you could answer this question if Argentina indeed had slaves what the hell happen to them?
UruEuWauWau

Brazil

#787 May 5, 2013
Genevieve11 wrote:
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And you are surely a black man. You look like you could be a close relative of mine.
Thx for the compliment, but I ain't 'black', nor were I ever called black anywhere in L.America, or even N.America. ;-D I'm brown & 'multiracial'. ;-D Just like this Boricua dude was always called/nicked 'Indian' so was I. ;-)

- let's be real, I reckon this dude looks like he could be even a closer relative of yours. Is he black too?! ;-D
h.ttp://youtu.be/vLlu_tQ8B6Q
UruEuWauWau

Brazil

#788 May 5, 2013
muminfreedomfighta wrote:
<quoted text>The African Union does seem to be trying to go in the direction of unification. Brasil and india have been meeting with au to establish a southern trade hemisphere.
India, China & BRA are already all over Africa. ;-) India mostly in E.Africa, while BRA in Luzo Africa. China is more or less everywhere. ;-D
UruEuWauWau

Brazil

#789 May 5, 2013
Brainiac2 wrote:
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They controlled it? That's ironic.
Sure they did, & no irony involved either.:-) Slavery in Africa was a cultural & also a deeply rooted social reality, as such it was seen even amongst Afro-diasporans in S.America, especially in BRA. ;-P However, in BRA there was a so-called 'slavocracy', where a slave was often allowed to 'hire' another slave, or even a free person of any color in order to increase his & his owner's revenues. ;-) On the public markets all over BRA ya had often free women of color, Afro-BRA women included, & slave women, side by side sellin' their goods. ;-D Sump'n similar was even in the rest of L.America. ;-)
UruEuWauWau

Brazil

#790 May 5, 2013
wino wrote:
<quoted text> maybe you could answer this question if Argentina indeed had slaves what the hell happen to them?
I reckon I could A this Q of yours w/ ease, & Brainiac can fill in the missin' parts if he finds it necessary along my very short A. ;-D Basically, an overwhelming majority of Afro-Argentine men fell in one of S.American wars & victims to yellow fever. ;-) However, most of Afro-Argentine women opted to marry European immigrant men, & some even Amerindian men. ;-) In other words, Afro-Argentines eventually got complitely assimil8d by the main Argentine society, yet there's still a small Afro-Argentine community left even today. ;-D On the other hand, Afro-Uruguayans opted to emigr8 to BRA for economic reasons, mostly in the l8 19th & early 20th century, their number in Uruguay also gre8ly decreased throughout 20th century partly due to assimil8ion. ;-)

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