Puerto Ricans and Dominicans are BLACK
UruEuWauWau

Brazil

#495 Apr 27, 2013
Genevieve11 wrote:
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socially, yes and no. Amerindians in a lot of ways were even worse off than us. Why do you think they make up like 1% of the population now and are on reservations? They were worked to death first, then plagued to death, then murdered to death, then all of their land was stolen from them to boot. And i seriously doubt that European gypsies were on equal footing with ango-saxon americans in america. the gypsies were classified as "melungeons", or "non-whites", but they resisted being classified as negro (because we all know that the anglo-saxons tried to make everyone with color in their veins/skin into negro slaves)
Ya mean like Irish, right?! By 'em shyatty WASP?! ;-) BTW, in L.America Anglosaxons were seen as not true whites & of lower class compared to Portuguese & Spaniards. ;-) Amerindians were simply seen not as 'slaves', but as 'savages' & treated as such. ;-) Yet in L.America they resisted & survived in millions to this d8 & age. ;-P European Gypsies were seen better & more white that Irish, in the ole Yankland, of course. ;-D
UruEuWauWau

Brazil

#496 Apr 27, 2013
Genevieve11 wrote:
.../Mulatto%20Classification%2 0of%20Indian%20Families%20 &%20Laws.htm
Highly questionable PC refurbished ole Yankland's history, & surely not the case in other ole Yankland's st8s, let alone beyond ole Yankland's n8ional borders. ;-)
UruEuWauWau

Brazil

#497 Apr 27, 2013
Genevieve11 wrote:
"Florida's official race laws stipulated that any mixed-blood person, whether of white/Negro, white/Indian, Indian/Negro, white/Hispanic, or whatever, were to be legally and socially classified as 'mulatto'."
So everyone was classified as "mixed" if you were coloured. in fact, all of my ancestors were classified as mulatto, so i don't know what my true makeup is, although a couple of great great grandparents were listed as "black"...i can only assume the 90% of my ancestors listed as "mulatto" were of a black/white mix as i look like a black/white mix with maybe some "mexican" thrown in. ala a long-haired alicia keys/suzanne malveaux.
Hardly doubt that, since Florida was under Spanish rule. ;-) In Hispanic & Luzo world IVigger was a synonym for 'slave', in the very beginnin' of coloniz8ion. ;-P
UruEuWauWau

Brazil

#498 Apr 27, 2013
Trouble wrote:
<quoted text>BRAZIL! you crazy..LOL. the original and first flag of venezuela was made and sown in Haiti. We played a role in the Liberation of Latin America(with soldiers) whether you like it or not. You think there would be a statue of a Haitian leader in Caracas if that wasnt the casae? Hugo Chavez(R.I.P)Would disagree with you, you calling him a liar?
Only Venezuela, & only in the logistic of goods & money, no soldiers. ;-D Learn about the battle of six hundred, & ya'll know the truth. ;-)

Since: Oct 09

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#499 Apr 27, 2013
Lone ranger wrote:
<quoted text>Most Puerto ricans do not look biracial half black half white, their look is a little different. And it does not matter if you still call biracials black in America because not everybody agrees with that, and most puerto ricans do not, so even if thats how things are here, you should respect the fact that they don't agree with it.
To me J Lo is a white washed watered down looking Puerto Rican and most or even have look mulatto but I am not trying to claim them.
UruEuWauWau

Brazil

#500 Apr 27, 2013
Genevieve11 wrote:
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honey, you're wrong as two left shoes haha! take a look at this, speaking of east indians:
.../indian-slaves-in-colonial- america
It's a Yank BS nonfactual article, like I told ya before. ;-) The 1st Asians (Indians, Thais, Indonesians & Chinese) to arrive in Americas ever were those brought by Portuguese, to S.America/BRA, & much l8r by French in gr8 numbers as the labor force again to S.America & F.Caribbean. ;-D Why do ya think we BRA peeps are so mixed like no other place on the planet?! ;-) Indians left their cultural & historical mark in BRA. More than a half of BRA cattle is of S.Asian origin. ;-D Many plants are of S.Asian origin as well. ;-) Chinese art & pottery was famous in BRA already in the 17th century, etc. ;-D On the other hand, BRA exported to India dried meat, ship constructin' technology & parts, alcohol, military w/ many real Americans & Afro-BRA peeps, some plants, etc. ;-) Durin' that time all y'all Yank Blacks/IViggers were still in shackles/gyves. ;-P In other words, Asians are part of L.America long before they ever reached ole Yankland or other Anglosaxon American lands by the end of 19th century. ;-)
UruEuWauWau

Brazil

#501 Apr 27, 2013
BROWNMAN20 wrote:
<quoted text>Maybe not seen as black, but their would be a status put to them, just because they have african blood, ect. They had so many terms in latin america to define the these people, but all and all, the more african looking ones, and the more indigenous looking ones, were at the bottom, especially the more african looking ones. In america, if you look like Zoe Saladana, or mistaken for black, many will see you as black, even if you dont indentify as black. The one drop rule has also altered the phenotype of what is black in america, so some of us look mixed, admixed, or dont even show or mixtures. Zoe Saldana woule be mistaken for AA by many, because people are not trying to check her ethnicity when they see her, only what she looks like. Many dominicans look like tri-racial, or like afro mulattos, they can be mistaken for mixed with black, AA, or part black, but this is not true all the time for every situation, but I can always tell they are part black on average, unless they are ambiguos looking. You have to know this as well, a large mestizo ethnicity is growing in america, and they dont like anyone of african descent, so where does this leave afro latinos? I see many AA's that can pass for mixed all the time, or latino, and they are in my family. Look at these people. They look like light skin black people, or bi-racials.
It's the other way around, all y'all Yank Blacks/IViggers look like some of Latinos & European Gypsies when all y'all are mixed, dun get it twisted. ;-) But even then, most of all y'all Yank Blacks/IViggers, even when mixed, look nuttin' like most of us mixed Afro-Latin peeps, or Latin peeps in general. ;-) All y'all will have to wait some 100-200 yrs more, when we Latin peeps complitely take over ole Yankland as a whole. ;-D
UruEuWauWau

Brazil

#502 Apr 27, 2013
Genevieve11 wrote:
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that's exactly the point of this whole thread. You can "look" more white/native/black but if you have black "blood" in you you are black in america, no questions asked.
Hold yo' Yank delusional horses, will ya. ;-D Ya failed to recognize mixed-race peeps callin''em white or Latin/Hispanic when they weren't. ;-) Since nobody has to st8 parents' & grandparents' origin to anyone, not even in the ole Yankland, anyone can sell ya a nice 'pass' story in front of yo' Yank delusional racialist nose & ya wouldn't know the truth, so much ya showed us all till this point. ;-D

- I bet ya'd claim these peeps 'black'! ;-)
h.ttp://youtu.be/Nn27SipsO78

- & this kid Amerindian/NA or mestizo
h.ttp://youtu.be/EgSXtaqUX98

- & ya'd claim this dude S.Asian as well ;-D
h.ttp://youtu.be/t1F6ALmtI2Y

Since: Oct 09

Location hidden

#503 Apr 27, 2013
Brainiac2 wrote:
Why do AAs stubbornly insist on dictating to Latinos and demanding that they assume racial identities that most aren't part of. That isn't a friendly gesture
This is true because some AA will try to claim the whitest looking latinos and that makes me sick.

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#504 Apr 27, 2013
Latinos who are mixed have a right to identify with the predominant heritage just as mixed AAs and mixed USA Anglos do. Either apply the shitty rule to yourselves or stfu!
Brano

Wayne, PA

#505 Apr 27, 2013
Que es esta tonteria! Jajajaja!

You Black Americans are trying to hard. No way we are all Black. Maybe mix. But most Latinos are proud of our European spanish heritage as we are of our Indian and Black mixture.

Latinos are like the best race really! We come in different colors!
Amelia Sugar COCAINE

Castle Rock, CO

#506 Apr 27, 2013
BROWNMAN20 wrote:
<quoted text>I believe that African Americans, and White Americans *European Americans, are especially seen as americans out side this country. Mariah said her mexican ex saw her as american, and he could not understand her race problems. Many think that AA's have another race in them, and also white americans. White americans are ethnically mixed with different types of europeans, and AA's are mixed with multiple african tribes, white other admixtures with europeans, and sometimes native americans, and some whites are the same. We are to ethnically blended to fit into any other country, and now people are even mixing more.
Absolutely true. Although African Americans have similar features to West Africans, ultimately you can immediately tell the difference and they do have differences in features being that, like you said, somewhere down the line many black Americans have some sort of admixture of European and/or Native American blood. The poster, Halle Berry Sister on here,....she looks like a high mix of AA and Native American to me (50% NA blood). I don't know her racial makeup though. I've come across some folks who migrated here from places like Europe and even Africa who could not understand the whole white vs. black thing. They see us as Americans and usually refer to our nationality versus our color or genetic makeup being that they too see everyone here as being mixed anyway. I think the whole race thing was made to divide everyone particularly blacks and whites anyway.
Amelia Sugar COCAINE

Castle Rock, CO

#507 Apr 27, 2013
Brainiac2 wrote:
Latinos who are mixed have a right to identify with the predominant heritage just as mixed AAs and mixed USA Anglos do. Either apply the shitty rule to yourselves or stfu!
Whoa! This isn't like you Brainiac. But I agree. One drop rule only applied to blacks or people of African descent. I could be wrong. Don't let people get you worked up about it though. You'll be going on and on about it. Many AA's do not see latinos as black. Some are just confused that's all.
Amelia Sugar COCAINE

Castle Rock, CO

#508 Apr 27, 2013
To put aside the past, I don't mind being considered full black because at the end of the day, anyone of African descent, that blood overpowers European descent whether I look black or not. And I've always saw myself as a woman of color, never denied it. Even the "white" Creoles (yes they have African blood too) down in LA consider themselves people of color and rightfully so. When your grandparent or parent is part "colored", then considering yourself white is a bit strange to me.
Trouble

Brooklyn, NY

#509 Apr 27, 2013
Genevieve11 wrote:
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honey, you're wrong as two left shoes haha! take a look at this,
Mademoiselle,

Tell me what i am wrong about. You said that if you have any amount of black blood you will be seen as black in America, no matter how you look. That is false. You and i both live in America and you know very well that police always differentiate black and hispanic when they describe people and when they looking for someone, if they viewed anyone with black blood as black, then why do they refer to many purto ricans and Dominicans as "Hispanic/Latino", and not "black?" The one drop rule is a farce.
Trouble

Brooklyn, NY

#510 Apr 27, 2013
Genevieve11 wrote:
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Really?.......REALLY?.....(sid e-eye)...OKAY
Yea, really. There are some puerto ricans and dominicans who people will view as black though, because the black admixture is dominant,and obvious, like Puerto Rican Miguel Cotto
http://assets.sbnation.com/imported_assets/29...
Trouble

Brooklyn, NY

#511 Apr 27, 2013
UruEuWauWau wrote:
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Only Venezuela, & only in the logistic of goods & money, no soldiers.
Haiti supplied Simon Bolivar with weapons, money, and soldiers in which allowed him to liberate Venezuela and the rest of Latin America. There are many quotes from Simon Bolivar to support this. If the assistance was only "goods and money", they would not go to the extent to build a statue of the Haitian leader in their country. All of this has been supported by history and Hugo Chavez himself, i think i'll believe him instead.

Don't sweat that. We got mad love for Brazil though..always have. Even though Brazil is one of the thousands of U.N soldiers in Haiti right now occupying the island for America's proxy war to steal our oil, gold, silver, uranium..etc
Trouble

Brooklyn, NY

#512 Apr 27, 2013
BROWNMAN20 wrote:
<quoted text>Maybe not seen as black, but their would be a status put to them, just because they have african blood, ect. They had so many terms in latin america to define the these people, but all and all, the more african looking ones, and the more indigenous looking ones, were at the bottom, especially the more african looking ones. In america, if you look like Zoe Saladana, or mistaken for black, many will see you as black, even if you dont indentify as black. The one drop rule has also altered the phenotype of what is black in america, so some of us look mixed, admixed, or dont even show or mixtures. Zoe Saldana woule be mistaken for AA by many, because people are not trying to check her ethnicity when they see her, only what she looks like. Many dominicans look like tri-racial, or like afro mulattos, they can be mistaken for mixed with black, AA, or part black, but this is not true all the time for every situation, but I can always tell they are part black on average, unless they are ambiguos looking. You have to know this as well, a large mestizo ethnicity is growing in america, and they dont like anyone of african descent, so where does this leave afro latinos? I see many AA's that can pass for mixed all the time, or latino, and they are in my family. Look at these people. They look like light skin black people, or bi-racials.
Most of what you say is true.
Trouble

Brooklyn, NY

#513 Apr 27, 2013
Genevieve11 wrote:
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Really?.......REALLY?.....(sid e-eye)...OKAY
This is a common look you will see among most Puerto Ricans.
http://blog.pennlive.com/lehighvalley/2007/08...

Notice he has relatively full lips, and notieable black ancestry, but he still looks different from AA, and mixed AA..despite that "one drop rule" nonsense, if he commit a crime and police ask people to describe him, they will say "hispanic male", not "black male". Likewise, if police were looking for him, giving his description, they would never say "black male", they will say, "looking for "Hispanic/Latino male"....one drop rule is a farce, plain and simple.

Level 5

Since: Mar 12

Van Nuys, CA

#514 Apr 27, 2013
Trouble wrote:
<quoted text>This is a common look you will see among most Puerto Ricans.
http://blog.pennlive.com/lehighvalley/2007/08...
Notice he has relatively full lips, and notieable black ancestry, but he still looks different from AA, and mixed AA..despite that "one drop rule" nonsense, if he commit a crime and police ask people to describe him, they will say "hispanic male", not "black male". Likewise, if police were looking for him, giving his description, they would never say "black male", they will say, "looking for "Hispanic/Latino male"....one drop rule is a farce, plain and simple.
oh is that soo huh? well then, all lightskin black ppl should start calling themselves "mixed" because they look mixed and they aren't truly "black" like haitians. And i'm going to start calling myself "hispanic" because after all, i'd never be mistaken for a "black" woman, i have a latin surname and i'm LSLH. GTFOHWDBS!

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