Puerto Ricans and Dominicans are BLACK
Ramapithecus Estupidicus

Harrisburg, PA

#455 Apr 26, 2013
Genevieve11 wrote:
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why?
Are Jew a Jew?
UruEuWauWau

Brazil

#456 Apr 26, 2013
Genevieve11 wrote:
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Yes that's a white boy right der.
Even if his one grandma is Afro-BRA, & the other grandma is heavily mixed w/ Amerindians?! ;-)
Second vid is a black woman with a native/hispanic man (or he could be part asian cuz his eyes are slanted).
That woman is one of new famous Indian/S.Asian models, not black nor African in any way. ;-D That dude is 'triracial', French (Celtic), Senegalese (black African) & Vietnamese (SE.Asian). No Amerindian/NA American origin, so much less Latin Hispanic. ;-D
As for my pic of the creole girl...she is NOT white...that is a black/mixed creole girl there. I guess the blonde hair must be trippin you up, but i can look in her face and tell she has african in her.
If all of the creole people that i've shown you don't classify to you as black,(albeit mixed, but all blacks are in america) then i'm definitely not black to you honey. i could straighten my hair (that's blonde and brown to the middle of my back) and you'd be all like "no she hispanic or sumn" because i don't fit into a brazilian stereotype of what black is.
It's not just BRA, it's L.America in general, dun get it twisted. ;-D Yo' Anglo world is not our Latin world. That girl is white, just like 35% of white Yanks who're genetically mixed w/ various African admixtures. ;-)
UruEuWauWau

Brazil

#457 Apr 26, 2013
Genevieve11 wrote:
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only dude that's white on that first vid is the guy on the electric piano. The rest are either mestizo or from the sound of the video middle eastern.
in the second video all are middle eastern/mestizo brazilian (but i'd say from lebanon/somewhere in the arab middle east), and i think i see one woman in that circle that may be a moorish (african) mix. But none of those folks are european whites.
and those guys on the bottom vid are mexican with a heavy native mix.
Not hard to see who's black and who's white. in fact..none of the people shown are white in america buddy.
& here the same thaaang repeats itself, again. ;-D In the 1st video there's no mestizo nor any mix w/ Amerindians/NA. No mix comin' from Africa in any of the videos as well & they have nuttin' to do w/ L.America. ;-) They're all Europeans & Caucasians, Xcept for the Mexican dude, who's actually an average Mexican mestizo. ;-D In UK they're white. Now what?! ;-)
Trouble

Brooklyn, NY

#458 Apr 26, 2013
UruEuWauWau wrote:
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Haitian mulatto elite did help Bolivar, mostly by givin' him 'sanctuary' from Spanish prosecution, after he left Jamaica, but also money, weapons & food.
No, the Haitian "Leader" at that time was a mulatto.

after which he fled to Haiti, where he was granted sanctuary and protection. He befriended Alexandre Pétion, the leader of the newly independent country, and petitioned him for aid.[10]


Bolívar and Francisco de Paula Santander during the Congress of Cúcuta, October 1821.In 1816, with Haitian "SOLDIERS" and vital material support (on the condition that he abolish slavery), Bolívar landed in Venezuela and their forces captured Angostura (now Ciudad Bolívar) after defeating the counter-attack of Miguel de la Torre.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sim%C3%B3n_Bol%C...

The leader of the second American Republic, the chief of the Black people, in supplying Simón Bolívar with men and money, allowed him to resume the struggle, and to become later on the glorious liberator of the United States of Venezuela. This fact is but little known, although it has not been forgotten by the Venezuelans who have erected in a public place of Caracas, among their national heroes, a statue of Alexandre Pétion, President of Haiti.
UruEuWauWau

Brazil

#459 Apr 26, 2013
Taft wrote:
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Fazlija is a Bosnian gypsy and has the genetical features of Paki or Punjabi Indian. Is he white? Fazlija je ciga. Molitva video is a Balkan gypsy and in the third the Mexican is the one with vihuela and the singer is a gypsy. White or black? No, they are Romani.
Not bad indeed. ;-D Yeah, them European Gypsies, Romani, Sinti, & all Caucasians, in UK seen as white. ;-) Fazlija je bosanski cigo ali nisam siguran da je pesma njegova. ;-D

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Since: Mar 12

Van Nuys, CA

#460 Apr 26, 2013
UruEuWauWau wrote:
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Even if his one grandma is Afro-BRA, & the other grandma is heavily mixed w/ Amerindians?! ;-)
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That woman is one of new famous Indian/S.Asian models, not black nor African in any way. ;-D That dude is 'triracial', French (Celtic), Senegalese (black African) & Vietnamese (SE.Asian). No Amerindian/NA American origin, so much less Latin Hispanic. ;-D
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It's not just BRA, it's L.America in general, dun get it twisted. ;-D Yo' Anglo world is not our Latin world. That girl is white, just like 35% of white Yanks who're genetically mixed w/ various African admixtures. ;-)
Even if his one grandma is Afro-BRA, & the other grandma is heavily mixed w/ Amerindians?! ;-)

(oh okay then, i guess he's a "pass for white" then, but he's black if that's the case. Like i said earlier, sometimes you need to know the genetics/parents of a person, you can't tell based on skin/features alone.)

That woman is one of new famous Indian/S.Asian models, not black nor African in any way.

(you're sure she's not black? There are black people in india as well. Is she straight from india or is she one of the "diaspora" indians...Fiji, trinidad, etc.)(she would definitely be classified as "black" in america. There were east indians in the virginia colony that were absorbed into the aa community in colonial times and labeled as Negro...because a lot of them look just like us)

That dude is 'triracial', French (Celtic), Senegalese (black African) & Vietnamese (SE.Asian). No Amerindian/NA American origin, so much less Latin Hispanic. ;-D

Yeah i saw that asian written all over him.(he would be able to "pass for asian") But i guess he's black too, even though he looks asian. Black people are the most diverse on this planet. We created all races so basically any race can look like us.
UruEuWauWau

Brazil

#461 Apr 26, 2013
Genevieve11 wrote:
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i knew they were from somewhere not in Europe as we kow it though. Those gypsies originated in india. That's why they are so darkskinned compared to "white people" as we know them.
Ya see, again ya're an utterly clueless Yank from a small backyard. ;-D They are all European foremost & have nuttin' to do w/ S.Asia or India. ;-) They arrived in Europe some 1500 yrs ago, when many 'white' Europeans were still slowly movin' from Asia to Europe. ;-D Many European Gypsies are pale white, but those on the Balkans & C.Europe are the original & the oldest ones. ;-)
UruEuWauWau

Brazil

#462 Apr 26, 2013
Taft wrote:
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She's not a black hun but a Serbian gypsy and not a one drop of black.
It was to prove that Yanks in general dunno much, if anythin','bout 'em peeps from around the world they wanna box in racial boxes. ;-D That Yank Genevieve failed almost on every individual from the videos, even where she saw 'white', there were either 'mixed races' or European Gypsies. ;-)

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Since: Mar 12

Van Nuys, CA

#463 Apr 26, 2013
UruEuWauWau wrote:
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Ya see, again ya're an utterly clueless Yank from a small backyard. ;-D They are all European foremost & have nuttin' to do w/ S.Asia or India. ;-) They arrived in Europe some 1500 yrs ago, when many 'white' Europeans were still slowly movin' from Asia to Europe. ;-D Many European Gypsies are pale white, but those on the Balkans & C.Europe are the original & the oldest ones. ;-)
listen brazil, i know that not all white people are pale with blue eyes. Arabs and turks are actually classified as white, as are dravidians in india...yes, those jet black folks in india are "racially" caucasian. However, based on appearances, this is what an american will see once they set foot in america. They will be lumped into large, known ethnic groups according to appearance first, and if the census taker knows their genetic/pedigree, then they will be placed into their appropriate ethnic group. This is why some native americans in early u.s. were classified not as "native/indian", but "mulatto", meaning "mixed". Native americans are in no way mixed. They are their own ethnic group, but because some dumbass caucasian at the census beureau decided "oh well they're not white", they placed them with the negroes without question, and thereafter they were socially classified as "black".

For example...if daddy yankee set foot off a ship today, without him opening his mouth and speaking dat spanish he'd be a lightskin black boi i know this for a fact.
UruEuWauWau

Brazil

#464 Apr 26, 2013
Trouble wrote:
<quoted text>No, the Haitian "Leader" at that time was a mulatto.
after which he fled to Haiti, where he was granted sanctuary and protection. He befriended Alexandre Pétion, the leader of the newly independent country, and petitioned him for aid.[10]
Bolívar and Francisco de Paula Santander during the Congress of Cúcuta, October 1821.In 1816, with Haitian "SOLDIERS" and vital material support (on the condition that he abolish slavery), Bolívar landed in Venezuela and their forces captured Angostura (now Ciudad Bolívar) after defeating the counter-attack of Miguel de la Torre.
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The leader of the second American Republic, the chief of the Black people, in supplying Simón Bolívar with men and money, allowed him to resume the struggle, and to become later on the glorious liberator of the United States of Venezuela. This fact is but little known, although it has not been forgotten by the Venezuelans who have erected in a public place of Caracas, among their national heroes, a statue of Alexandre Pétion, President of Haiti.
It's not recorded like this in Hispanic history books. ;-) Have ya ever heard of MacGregor?! He was one of the Bolivar's military leaders under British protection, but he l8r became scum & thief. ;-D There were almost no Haitian soldiers, & not even Jamaican. ;-)
UruEuWauWau

Brazil

#465 Apr 26, 2013
Genevieve11 wrote:
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Even if his one grandma is Afro-BRA, & the other grandma is heavily mixed w/ Amerindians?! ;-)
(oh okay then, i guess he's a "pass for white" then, but he's black if that's the case. Like i said earlier, sometimes you need to know the genetics/parents of a person, you can't tell based on skin/features alone.)
That woman is one of new famous Indian/S.Asian models, not black nor African in any way.
(you're sure she's not black? There are black people in india as well. Is she straight from india or is she one of the "diaspora" indians...Fiji, trinidad, etc.)(she would definitely be classified as "black" in america. There were east indians in the virginia colony that were absorbed into the aa community in colonial times and labeled as Negro...because a lot of them look just like us)
That dude is 'triracial', French (Celtic), Senegalese (black African) & Vietnamese (SE.Asian). No Amerindian/NA American origin, so much less Latin Hispanic. ;-D
Yeah i saw that asian written all over him.(he would be able to "pass for asian") But i guess he's black too, even though he looks asian. Black people are the most diverse on this planet. We created all races so basically any race can look like us.
It's where ya failed & now there's no turnin' back. ;-D Ya saw white, where ya should've seen mixed. Ya saw Hispanic mestizo mixed w/ Amerindian where there was none. ;-D & ya saw a black woman in Indian Brahmin chick who's straight from India & has nuttin' w/ African descendant Siddihs who are an absolute minority in India, that's as big as a drop of African water in the Indian ocean. ;-) S.Asian were often seen as peeps of colors, hardly ever black, even durin British colonial rule in India. ;-D Not to mention that in Canada & UK they're simply classified as Asian, no matter how light or dark they are, yet European Gypsies are white, & not Asian. ;-D BRA is the most diverse country on the planet, & there are only 7% of Afro-BRA peeps livin' in BRA today. ;-) Now tell us 'bout those 35% of all White Yanks who're actually black. ;-D
UruEuWauWau

Brazil

#466 Apr 26, 2013
Genevieve11 wrote:
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listen brazil, i know that not all white people are pale with blue eyes. Arabs and turks are actually classified as white, as are dravidians in india...yes, those jet black folks in india are "racially" caucasian. However, based on appearances, this is what an american will see once they set foot in america. They will be lumped into large, known ethnic groups according to appearance first, and if the census taker knows their genetic/pedigree, then they will be placed into their appropriate ethnic group. This is why some native americans in early u.s. were classified not as "native/indian", but "mulatto", meaning "mixed". Native americans are in no way mixed. They are their own ethnic group, but because some dumbass caucasian at the census beureau decided "oh well they're not white", they placed them with the negroes without question, and thereafter they were socially classified as "black".
For example...if daddy yankee set foot off a ship today, without him opening his mouth and speaking dat spanish he'd be a lightskin black boi i know this for a fact.
BS, even in the ole Yankland there was a diff. between Amerindians & IViggers. ;-) To the point that Amerindians often enslaved Yank IViggers, & in some st8s they were not allowed to mix w/ Yank IViggers. ;-P As for Daddy Yankee, it's questionable, since many peeps of color were not considered IViggers nor black in ole Yankland's history. ;-D & there was not a single case of European Gypsies bein' classified as IViggers or black anywhere in the ole Yankland, although there are today some million Gypsies livin' in the ole Yankland, which is the biggest Gypsy diaspora followed by the one found in BRA. ;-)

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Since: Mar 12

Van Nuys, CA

#467 Apr 26, 2013

Level 5

Since: Mar 12

Van Nuys, CA

#468 Apr 26, 2013
UruEuWauWau wrote:
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BS, even in the ole Yankland there was a diff. between Amerindians & IViggers. ;-) To the point that Amerindians often enslaved Yank IViggers, & in some st8s they were not allowed to mix w/ Yank IViggers. ;-P As for Daddy Yankee, it's questionable, since many peeps of color were not considered IViggers nor black in ole Yankland's history. ;-D & there was not a single case of European Gypsies bein' classified as IViggers or black anywhere in the ole Yankland, although there are today some million Gypsies livin' in the ole Yankland, which is the biggest Gypsy diaspora followed by the one found in BRA. ;-)
socially, yes and no. Amerindians in a lot of ways were even worse off than us. Why do you think they make up like 1% of the population now and are on reservations? They were worked to death first, then plagued to death, then murdered to death, then all of their land was stolen from them to boot. And i seriously doubt that European gypsies were on equal footing with ango-saxon americans in america. the gypsies were classified as "melungeons", or "non-whites", but they resisted being classified as negro (because we all know that the anglo-saxons tried to make everyone with color in their veins/skin into negro slaves)

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Since: Mar 12

Van Nuys, CA

#469 Apr 26, 2013

Level 5

Since: Mar 12

Van Nuys, CA

#470 Apr 26, 2013
"Florida's official race laws stipulated that any mixed-blood person, whether of white/Negro, white/Indian, Indian/Negro, white/Hispanic, or whatever, were to be legally and socially classified as 'mulatto'."

So everyone was classified as "mixed" if you were coloured. in fact, all of my ancestors were classified as mulatto, so i don't know what my true makeup is, although a couple of great great grandparents were listed as "black"...i can only assume the 90% of my ancestors listed as "mulatto" were of a black/white mix as i look like a black/white mix with maybe some "mexican" thrown in. ala a long-haired alicia keys/suzanne malveaux.
Trouble

Brooklyn, NY

#471 Apr 26, 2013
UruEuWauWau wrote:
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It's not recorded like this in Hispanic history books. ;-) Have ya ever heard of MacGregor?! He was one of the Bolivar's military leaders under British protection, but he l8r became scum & thief. ;-D There were almost no Haitian soldiers,
BRAZIL! you crazy..LOL. the original and first flag of venezuela was made and sown in Haiti. We played a role in the Liberation of Latin America(with soldiers) whether you like it or not. You think there would be a statue of a Haitian leader in Caracas if that wasnt the casae? Hugo Chavez(R.I.P)Would disagree with you, you calling him a liar?

“The Love Below”

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Since: Apr 10

ATL

#472 Apr 26, 2013
Trouble wrote:
<quoted text>No, i'm Haitian, not AA. I already said many times most AA and Latinos look nothing alike. My pops is half Dominican, but i don't even claim that, nor have i ever felt the need to ride on their coat-tails...i rep Haiti to the fullest
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =30ZLgkd6FT0XX
I have seen plenty of AA's who can pass for a dominican, but not all, or even most.

“The Love Below”

Level 8

Since: Apr 10

ATL

#473 Apr 26, 2013
Truthism wrote:
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Mariah Carey in the early 1990s (when her music and appearance were good) before all the dyeing hair blond, plastic surgery, etc.
http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g144/hrstum...
http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g144/hrstum...
http://americanartmusic.com/wp-content/upload...
She looked quite different back then compared to how she looks now. I liked her way more back then. It seems fame screws peoples minds very badly. Sad.
I believe her father was from South America, so who knows what he was genetically made up of, specifically. No one knows.
The "Latina" label is silly to me.
Her dad's mother was AA from alabama, and her dads father was was venezuelean, but he was really cuban, but marked Venezuelean on the census. He was a mulatto cuban.

“The Love Below”

Level 8

Since: Apr 10

ATL

#474 Apr 26, 2013
Genevieve11 wrote:
even my cousin with the surname Gomez-rodriguez probably would be given the side-eye by a lot of ango/french descendants down south just because of her name association with the mestizos of "mexico/latin america". In many cases, pure spaniards who come over to america from spain are wrongfully lumped into the "latino/mestizo" category because SO MANY latinos identify as "Spanish" (trynna be white again) and not "mexican/latin american", so then when an ACTUAL SPANIARD sets foot in america they think he's mexican lol
Your considered black, get over it. Tell it to Rosa Parks, who look native american, and she was told to get to the back of the bus. I dont even endorse the 1-drop rule, but if you have enough black in you, and it shows, even if its not a lot, you will be seen as black.

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