Django Unchained

“Africa”

Level 7

Since: Jan 12

Oakland

#130 Dec 30, 2012
Sock it wrote:
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You gawtdayum right it is. I would love to see a movie about white citizens committees forming with the sole purpose of executing black criminals. Now do you think the nogs would be whining about that? You crybabies still cry with your Messiah in the WH.
Oh and suck on my sawed off SG you filthy ape.
You are the only one in here cryin' like a little b*tch about some movie that Black people didn't even make.

(whiny voice) "It's racism, it's racism!"

The only racist people in that film were whites, with every scene littered with liberal usage of the N word, abuse towards Blacks, and condescending tones towards them as well, as expected. So what is your argument, fool?

White people have never been legally oppressed by Blacks in this country, especially not for no 400 years, so where is your comparison, you lame mutt?

You stupid white racists always cry about reverse racism and all this other effeminate garbage when you haven't even come close to having experiences as Blacks have historically.

“Africa”

Level 7

Since: Jan 12

Oakland

#131 Dec 30, 2012
Also, you are attempting to compare White (only?) committees killing Black "criminals" to a movie about ONE formerly-enslaved-and-abused-b y-whites Black man who goes around and kills other white slavers, oppressors and abusers, and the only white man he actually respects is the one who isn't a slaver, isn't racist, and who freed him in the first place?

Do I have that about right?

I'd like to see your intellectually inferior ass explain this feeble comparison.
Black Deal

United States

#134 Dec 31, 2012
Bakari Neferu wrote:
<quoted text>You are the only one in here cryin' like a little b*tch about some movie that Black people didn't even make.

(whiny voice) "It's racism, it's racism!"

The only racist people in that film were whites, with every scene littered with liberal usage of the N word, abuse towards Blacks, and condescending tones towards them as well, as expected. So what is your argument, fool?

White people have never been legally oppressed by Blacks in this country, especially not for no 400 years, so where is your comparison, you lame mutt?

You stupid white racists always cry about reverse racism and all this other effeminate garbage when you haven't even come close to having experiences as Blacks have historically.
You AA or from Africa?
Blasian

Charlotte, NC

#135 Dec 31, 2012
I saw it. I liked it. It dealt with some very real issues in our history in a way that was graphic and brutal. It managed to make you uncomfortable at times and justified at times as well. To its credit, it managed to glorify the spirit of loyalty and love the REAL black men and black women have for each other in spite of the hopeless circumstances of that time.
Its a love story set against a backdrop of intense hopelessness and cruelty. Its also a story that grapples with the question of whether a white and a black could ever have a true friendship in spite of the circumstances. I liked it because the black man rode off into the sunset with his black queen.
I disliked that it took a white man to give us such a story.

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Since: Jul 08

Location hidden

#136 Dec 31, 2012
Sock it wrote:
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All nogs are like your mother. Blacks refuse to see their own racis which is why racism against them still exists. And getting stronger I might add.
Are you all full of piss and vinegar? Fckn loudmouth coward. Find a job yet, loser?
WhiteGayBoy

La Mirada, CA

#137 Dec 31, 2012
How strange this crticism of Spike Lee! Lee was asked a direct question and gave his reason. Having seen a few of Spike Lee's movies, I view him as a intense talented film-maker that the black audience does not sufficiently support. If blacks show up for the non-stop baffoonery of Tyler Perry and pass on Spike Lee's seriously worthwhile work, then its understandable that he becomes prickley and ingracious about the films by others way below his ability level.

“Africa”

Level 7

Since: Jan 12

Oakland

#138 Dec 31, 2012
Black Deal wrote:
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You AA or from Africa?
I'm AA, Black.
nappyRoots

United States

#139 Dec 31, 2012
Bakari Neferu wrote:
<quoted text>
I'm AA, Black.
your a white dude

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Since: Oct 10

Location hidden

#140 Dec 31, 2012
Halle Berry Sister wrote:
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Good movies, but too DRAMATIC.
Well, I'd rather experience that type of DRAMA on screen than off any day!

:D

“Africa”

Level 7

Since: Jan 12

Oakland

#141 Dec 31, 2012
nappyRoots wrote:
<quoted text>your a white dude
Name one white dude you know who has ever said anything close to the things I have said about and in favor of Africa and Africans.
nappyRoots

United States

#142 Dec 31, 2012
vampiYAH stabB wrote:
<quoted text>Well, I'd rather experience that type of DRAMA on screen than off any day!
:D
whips out dyck thumps on your forehead and shoots in eye

Level 8

Since: Oct 10

Location hidden

#144 Dec 31, 2012
nappyRoots wrote:
<quoted text>whips out dyck thumps on your forehead and shoots in eye
HA! Look at the "saltine" whose salty for me pissin' all over the KKKracker new year thread.

LOLOL!!!
Black Deal

United States

#145 Dec 31, 2012
Bakari Neferu wrote:
<quoted text>I'm AA, Black.
Man you been to Africa before?

“Africa”

Level 7

Since: Jan 12

Oakland

#146 Dec 31, 2012
Black Deal wrote:
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Man you been to Africa before?
No, but I would love to go sometime in the near future.

Not sure which country though.
Baba

Franklin Square, NY

#147 Dec 31, 2012
I thought it was gonna be some Roots, toby bullshat. But brotherman caught the Shwarzchnegger body count!

“Cool Like That”

Level 5

Since: May 08

Everywhere

#148 Jan 1, 2013
Baba wrote:
I thought it was gonna be some Roots, toby bullshat. But brotherman caught the Shwarzchnegger body count!
Roots was a TV miniseries in the 1970's that was well made and well done. It was less about entertaining Black folks and more about educating them.

I'm sure some of the explicit violence against slaves may have been shown in this Django movie, but explicit violence could not be shown on Network television in the 1970's. For what they could show on TV, I thought Roots was a powerful miniseries based on Alex Haley's research of his ancestors.

Tarantino's made up fiction story no doubt has appealed to Black people who enjoy seeing a Black "hero" take revenge against racist slave owning Whites. This is what I think most Blacks who say they love the movie are responding to. During the 1970's, movies like Shaft and other such films also appealed to Black audiences who liked seeing Black men and women in control and fighting back against the system.

Tarantino has no doubt calculated that if he made a film showing Blacks taking revenge against White racist slave owners, many Black folks would run to the theater to pay money to see it. It did not matter whether or not his film is based on fact. As long as it feeds into the Black revenge theme, and it is full of action, many Black people will praise it as being very entertaining to watch.

If a Black film director makes a film of quality, substance, and significance that respects the history of Blacks, most Blacks will not support it in large numbers. However, let a White man make an action film with a made up Black hero taking revenge against "Whitey," and Blacks can't wait to plop down their hard earned money to see it.

Lesson learned. Play to the emotions of Black folks, and you can get them to swallow anything. Tarintino obviously has figured that out, which no doubt will make him an even richer man.

“Africa”

Level 7

Since: Jan 12

Oakland

#149 Jan 1, 2013
IkeLike wrote:
Tarantino has no doubt calculated that if he made a film showing Blacks taking revenge against White racist slave owners, many Black folks would run to the theater to pay money to see it. It did not matter whether or not his film is based on fact. As long as it feeds into the Black revenge theme, and it is full of action, many Black people will praise it as being very entertaining to watch.
Most people in general would praise such a movie, regardless of race. People like to see action because people like to be entertained. That is why they watch movies to begin with.
IkeLike wrote:
If a Black film director makes a film of quality, substance, and significance that respects the history of Blacks, most Blacks will not support it in large numbers. However, let a White man make an action film with a made up Black hero taking revenge against "Whitey," and Blacks can't wait to plop down their hard earned money to see it.
You arguments are starting to sound more like whines now. The circumstance you are describing in indicative of ALL people, not just Blacks. ALL people like to see action flicks. ALL people like to see the oppressed rise against the oppressors. This is something humans respond to in general, which is why 300 did so well. Do you think that movie was based on pure fact?

People like to see action. It doesn't matter who directs it, that is what they want to see. They don't go see boring movies about history because the people directing them don't make them interesting.

I didn't go see the Miracle at Saint Anna's for the same reason I didn't go see Red Tails or The Color Purple.

Those were BORING movies that didn't interest me.
IkeLike wrote:
Lesson learned. Play to the emotions of Black folks, and you can get them to swallow anything. Tarintino obviously has figured that out, which no doubt will make him an even richer man.
This last statement right here is pure ignorance.

ALL movies are designed to play to peoples' emotions. All of them.

This is not a "Black" issue. Things that are more entertaining fetch more attention.

This is a basic HUMAN characteristic.

What exactly is your argument here?

“Cool Like That”

Level 5

Since: May 08

Everywhere

#150 Jan 1, 2013
Bakari Neferu wrote:
<quoted text>
Most people in general would praise such a movie, regardless of race. People like to see action because people like to be entertained. That is why they watch movies to begin with.
<quoted text>
You arguments are starting to sound more like whines now. The circumstance you are describing in indicative of ALL people, not just Blacks. ALL people like to see action flicks. ALL people like to see the oppressed rise against the oppressors. This is something humans respond to in general, which is why 300 did so well. Do you think that movie was based on pure fact?
People like to see action. It doesn't matter who directs it, that is what they want to see. They don't go see boring movies about history because the people directing them don't make them interesting.
I didn't go see the Miracle at Saint Anna's for the same reason I didn't go see Red Tails or The Color Purple.
Those were BORING movies that didn't interest me.
<quoted text>
This last statement right here is pure ignorance.
ALL movies are designed to play to peoples' emotions. All of them.
This is not a "Black" issue. Things that are more entertaining fetch more attention.
This is a basic HUMAN characteristic.
What exactly is your argument here?
Based on your reasoning, as long as it is entertaining then it is above criticism. Yes, the Hollywood film industry is about entertainment and getting people to the theaters. However, as you well know something can be entertaining and lack substance at the same time. I'm not saying this movie is not entertaining to some.
What I am saying is that it lacks substance.

I'm sure that you have seen some movies that did well at the box office that you thought were bad movies. For what ever reason you did not like those popular movies, but a lot of other people did. If you can dislike a popular movie then so can I.

Junk food (candy, cookies, potato chips, etc.) may taste good to most people, but that does not mean those foods are healthy or have any nutritional value. It is the same as with Hollywood movies. Just because they are entertaining does NOT mean they have substance or intellectual value.

The only thing I have been doing is explaining why I think some Black people are entertained by Django and are responding to it favorably. I'm not talking about any other movies or any other races of people because that is not the topic of this thread.

“Cool Like That”

Level 5

Since: May 08

Everywhere

#151 Jan 1, 2013
Bakari Neferu wrote:
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Most people in general would praise such a movie, regardless of race. People like to see action because people like to be entertained. That is why they watch movies to begin with.
<quoted text>
You arguments are starting to sound more like whines now. The circumstance you are describing in indicative of ALL people, not just Blacks. ALL people like to see action flicks. ALL people like to see the oppressed rise against the oppressors. This is something humans respond to in general, which is why 300 did so well. Do you think that movie was based on pure fact?
People like to see action. It doesn't matter who directs it, that is what they want to see. They don't go see boring movies about history because the people directing them don't make them interesting.
I didn't go see the Miracle at Saint Anna's for the same reason I didn't go see Red Tails or The Color Purple.
Those were BORING movies that didn't interest me.
<quoted text>
This last statement right here is pure ignorance.
ALL movies are designed to play to peoples' emotions. All of them.
This is not a "Black" issue. Things that are more entertaining fetch more attention.
This is a basic HUMAN characteristic.
What exactly is your argument here?
A film can be discussed in a variety of different ways such as its production quality, editing, how it was directed, actors' performances, social commentary, political implications, set design etc. A film can have great production quality (lighting, sound, etc.) but also lack in other areas.

My main cretinism about this film is that it has exploited a serious and sensitive issue like slavery by distorting some of the facts and by pandering to a Black audience for profit. It is not addressing the issue in a real meaningful way. To me slavery should not serve as a backdrop to some action adventure bang bang
shoot-em-up spaghetti western. What's next, a comedy about slavery?

I have no problem with movies about slavery. I also do not have a problem with movies being entertaining. However, if I have to choose between being entertained or respectfully and accurately depicting slavery in motion pictures, I'll take the later.

“Cool Like That”

Level 5

Since: May 08

Everywhere

#152 Jan 1, 2013
Bakari Neferu wrote:
<quoted text>
Most people in general would praise such a movie, regardless of race. People like to see action because people like to be entertained. That is why they watch movies to begin with.
<quoted text>
You arguments are starting to sound more like whines now. The circumstance you are describing in indicative of ALL people, not just Blacks. ALL people like to see action flicks. ALL people like to see the oppressed rise against the oppressors. This is something humans respond to in general, which is why 300 did so well. Do you think that movie was based on pure fact?
People like to see action. It doesn't matter who directs it, that is what they want to see. They don't go see boring movies about history because the people directing them don't make them interesting.
I didn't go see the Miracle at Saint Anna's for the same reason I didn't go see Red Tails or The Color Purple.
Those were BORING movies that didn't interest me.
<quoted text>
This last statement right here is pure ignorance.
ALL movies are designed to play to peoples' emotions. All of them.
This is not a "Black" issue. Things that are more entertaining fetch more attention.
This is a basic HUMAN characteristic.
What exactly is your argument here?
In my opinion, all Black people have an obligation to guard and protect their history. If they start accepting versions of their history that is not accurate or that is trivialized then as a people they are abandoning their history and giving it up to who ever wants to make a movie or write a book about for profit.

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