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Why is there lack of unity among African Americans, and among Africans

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#1 Jul 23, 2013
If some of you still remember, I posted a couple of threads on Africa and development a while ago. Thank you so very much for your valuable contributions. I have been more or less 'in hiding' trying to study all your contributions. The process is still under-way, but there are two things that have emerged from our discussions so far which are:

1) Africans do not seem to trust each other

2) Equally, African Americans do not seem to trust each other

Therefore neither Africans nor African Americans appear keen to do business with each other (they do not seem eager to collaborate on entrepreneurship and other business projects).

I am not sure if my interpretation is correct. If it is, why is there is lack of trust in one another among people of African descent in general?

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#2 Jul 23, 2013
Apologies, the topic of this thread does not seem to reflect its intent well...

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#4 Jul 23, 2013
o-h-r-e-a-l-l-y wrote:
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Because even blacks know,
....blacks can't be trusted.
Why is that even a "question"?
It is a legitimate question for discussion, for the mere reason that any social collective needs some level of trust for it to operate as a unit and progress. Therefore, there is need for us, in my view, to understand why people of African descent do not trust each other, and why they know that they can't trust each other as you appear to have claimed above. I hope you will try and enlighten us, particularly in view of your comment.
Ranter

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#5 Jul 23, 2013
God tells a Negro “I’ll give you anything you want, but I’ll give your neighbor twice as much”

Negro tells god “ take one of my eyes”
Broadway

Tempe, AZ

#6 Jul 23, 2013
I know whites that don't trust other whites. Mitt Romney doesn't give a [email protected] about poor people(white or black). Why should "well to do" blacks care or trust ghetto blacks? I see "well off" whites turn their nose up at poor white trash everyday. Don't let these white racist fool you, it's more about class than race. Poor racist whites wants us to think all whites stick together, they have nothing but their white skin in common with "well to do" whites.
Ranter

Tucson, AZ

#7 Jul 23, 2013
Broadway wrote:
I know whites that don't trust other whites. Mitt Romney doesn't give a [email protected] about poor people(white or black). Why should "well to do" blacks care or trust ghetto blacks? I see "well off" whites turn their nose up at poor white trash everyday. Don't let these white racist fool you, it's more about class than race. Poor racist whites wants us to think all whites stick together, they have nothing but their white skin in common with "well to do" whites.
Hey! Stop polluting the Zoo with your “reason” we try to run a dirty racist ship here and you’re messing it up!!!(or cleaning it up, depends on perspective)

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#8 Jul 23, 2013
DeeQueen wrote:
If some of you still remember, I posted a couple of threads on Africa and development a while ago. Thank you so very much for your valuable contributions. I have been more or less 'in hiding' trying to study all your contributions. The process is still under-way, but there are two things that have emerged from our discussions so far which are:
1) Africans do not seem to trust each other
2) Equally, African Americans do not seem to trust each other
Therefore neither Africans nor African Americans appear keen to do business with each other (they do not seem eager to collaborate on entrepreneurship and other business projects).
I am not sure if my interpretation is correct. If it is, why is there is lack of trust in one another among people of African descent in general?
this is a black problem
white crackers divide africa and created a false nations in africa and start to divide people in order to destroy black race
for example tutsus and hutu in rxwanda
i don't know why african and african americans have the same problem
we are all black people no one is better than the other
unity is the key to end racism against us and fight our ennemies
Broadway

Tempe, AZ

#11 Jul 23, 2013
o-h-r-e-a-l-l-y,

I didn't know you were black. All this time I thought that you were just poor white trash seeking attention from blacks, because your own(white people) don't take you seriously. I'm sorry dopey. I would suggest you go to the anglo forum and listen to the crickets chirp.
Ranter

Tucson, AZ

#12 Jul 23, 2013
Broadway wrote:
o-h-r-e-a-l-l-y,
I didn't know you were black. All this time I thought that you were just poor white trash seeking attention from blacks, because your own(white people) don't take you seriously. I'm sorry dopey. I would suggest you go to the anglo forum and listen to the crickets chirp.
So we say that this forum is made for talking ABOUT black people, and you say that we are not black therefor can’t talk about black people… WE GOT A BRAND NEW APE ON THE FORUMS!!!
WOOT!!! lol
Broadway

Tempe, AZ

#13 Jul 23, 2013
Ranter,

You go right ahead and talk about blacks to your hearts desire.
nappyhead

Cypress, TX

#14 Jul 23, 2013
obamahamza08 wrote:
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this is a black problem
white crackers divide africa and created a false nations in africa and start to divide people in order to destroy black race
for example tutsus and hutu in rxwanda
i don't know why african and african americans have the same problem
we are all black people no one is better than the other
unity is the key to end racism against us and fight our ennemies
Well I am almost black an I thank the problem is too miny balck peoples is voting for obamma. He gonna rooin the country.
Marcus Washington

Laredo, TX

#15 Jul 24, 2013
DeeQueen wrote:
If some of you still remember, I posted a couple of threads on Africa and development a while ago. Thank you so very much for your valuable contributions. I have been more or less 'in hiding' trying to study all your contributions. The process is still under-way, but there are two things that have emerged from our discussions so far which are:
1) Africans do not seem to trust each other
2) Equally, African Americans do not seem to trust each other
Therefore neither Africans nor African Americans appear keen to do business with each other (they do not seem eager to collaborate on entrepreneurship and other business projects).
I am not sure if my interpretation is correct. If it is, why is there is lack of trust in one another among people of African descent in general?
As long as BW are materialistic,mean and self-centered and continue worshipping Whites there will never be unity amongst us. Sistaz in the "Workplace" are among the most notorious a** kissers of WM.
Stag_R_Lee

Scottsdale, AZ

#16 Jul 24, 2013
DeeQueen wrote:
If some of you still remember, I posted a couple of threads on Africa and development a while ago. Thank you so very much for your valuable contributions. I have been more or less 'in hiding' trying to study all your contributions. The process is still under-way, but there are two things that have emerged from our discussions so far which are:
1) Africans do not seem to trust each other
2) Equally, African Americans do not seem to trust each other
Therefore neither Africans nor African Americans appear keen to do business with each other (they do not seem eager to collaborate on entrepreneurship and other business projects).
I am not sure if my interpretation is correct. If it is, why is there is lack of trust in one another among people of African descent in general?
B/C any attempt at organizing Af.Am. is treated by the Establishment as "terrorism." Exceptions can be found in Black churches, and they are widely understood to be pacification efforts established first by Southern slave owners.
Stag_R_Lee

Scottsdale, AZ

#17 Jul 24, 2013
DeeQueen wrote:
If some of you still remember, I posted a couple of threads on Africa and development a while ago. Thank you so very much for your valuable contributions. I have been more or less 'in hiding' trying to study all your contributions. The process is still under-way, but there are two things that have emerged from our discussions so far which are:
DeeQueen wrote:
If some of you still remember, I posted a couple of threads on Africa and development a while ago. Thank you so very much for your valuable contributions. I have been more or less 'in hiding' trying to study all your contributions. The process is still under-way, but there are two things that have emerged from our discussions so far which are:
1) Africans do not seem to trust each other
2) Equally, African Americans do not seem to trust each other
Therefore neither Africans nor African Americans appear keen to do business with each other (they do not seem eager to collaborate on entrepreneurship and other business projects).
I am not sure if my interpretation is correct. If it is, why is there is lack of trust in one another among people of African descent in general?
DeeQueen wrote:
If some of you still remember, I posted a couple of threads on Africa and development a while ago. Thank you so very much for your valuable contributions. I have been more or less 'in hiding' trying to study all your contributions. The process is still under-way, but there are two things that have emerged from our discussions so far which are:
1) Africans do not seem to trust each other
2) Equally, African Americans do not seem to trust each other
Therefore neither Africans nor African Americans appear keen to do business with each other (they do not seem eager to collaborate on entrepreneurship and other business projects).
I am not sure if my interpretation is correct. If it is, why is there is lack of trust in one another among people of African descent in general?
Trust. Trust is important as it operates as a bond allowing groups to work efficiently. Establishments use a variety of techniques to break down intergroup relations. My list does not pretend to be inclusive. 1.) Premiums are paid to those who violate trust. We call these people Toms. 2.) A form of leadership is fostered that vocally informs Blacks about the legitimacy of the Establishment and--at the same time-- denigrating organizations sincerely invested in actual progress.. Historically, ministers have been conduits for misleading African Americans, but in recent years they have migrated into politics., e.g., MLK, Jesse Jackson are examples of ministers operating as politicians and ACORN is an example of how well intended groups get slandered and shut down. 3.) Spys and Agent provocateurs are used more often than you might think. It's the character of undercover operatives to remain undetected. I have no doubt that there are several here on TOPIX. One recent example was to set up and use poor down and out Blacks as patsies: saying that they were planning terrorist attacks on U.S. Defense bldngs or synagogues. The Establishment furnished these individuals with cell phones, transportation, maps, leadership and various material only to eventually arrest and prosecute. At the same time the media blared how the victims were caught and the media duly profiled the victims as actual "terrorist." The participation of the government in so called "terrorist" activities is huge,(I'll certainly include 9-11). In short, The concept "terrorism" has created an entire industry in the U.S. and there are few things operatives wont do to maintain their meal ticket.
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This is my view of the apparatus in place to destroy trust between Blacks.

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#19 Jul 26, 2013
Ranter wrote:
God tells a Negro “I’ll give you anything you want, but I’ll give your neighbor twice as much”
Negro tells god “ take one of my eyes”
I have to admit, I am struggling to follow the logic of your observation Ranter. Could you please simplify?

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#20 Jul 26, 2013
Broadway wrote:
I know whites that don't trust other whites. Mitt Romney doesn't give a [email protected] about poor people(white or black). Why should "well to do" blacks care or trust ghetto blacks? I see "well off" whites turn their nose up at poor white trash everyday. Don't let these white racist fool you, it's more about class than race. Poor racist whites wants us to think all whites stick together, they have nothing but their white skin in common with "well to do" whites.
Apparently, this represents a new perspective brought into the debate, however it does not appear like it is quite addressing the question posed above, as reflected in the title.

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#21 Jul 26, 2013
obamahamza08 wrote:
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this is a black problem
white crackers divide africa and created a false nations in africa and start to divide people in order to destroy black race
for example tutsus and hutu in rxwanda
i don't know why african and african americans have the same problem
we are all black people no one is better than the other
unity is the key to end racism against us and fight our ennemies
Thank you for o=your contribution, and acknowledging that we are still to understand why there is lack of trust even among African Americans themselves, who given their historical trajectory, would be expected to function as a united collective.

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#22 Jul 26, 2013
o-h-r-e-a-l-l-y wrote:
<quoted text>It can't be "dumbed down" any further than it is.
I was requesting you for a more simplified and precise explanation.

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#23 Jul 26, 2013
Marcus Washington wrote:
<quoted text>As long as BW are materialistic,mean and self-centered and continue worshipping Whites there will never be unity amongst us. Sistaz in the "Workplace" are among the most notorious a** kissers of WM.
Thank you very much for your contribution Marcus Washington" What I read out of your contribution is that, this has to do with a lot of our values as a people. You claim that we Africans/people of African descent are "mean and self-centred" and overly dependent upon the West, and that's the reason for lack of trust among us. Is my interpretation correct?

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#24 Jul 26, 2013
Stag_R_Lee wrote:
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B/C any attempt at organizing Af.Am. is treated by the Establishment as "terrorism." Exceptions can be found in Black churches, and they are widely understood to be pacification efforts established first by Southern slave owners.
Thank you for your contribution Stag_R_Lee, which is addressing the issue of trust as it relates to African Americans. However, I don't understand, at this stage, how that stops many AAs from trusting each other in the first place (I have to admit though, that I do not have any statistics to prove this, apart from our discussions here and on Blackplanet).

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