++The "God" Facts
Bigsmoke

Wakefield, UK

#105 Feb 14, 2013
Games we play wrote:
matter can neither be created or destroyed. water for example. its a liquid. if you heat it enough will turn into a vapor. if you cool it enough it will turn to a solid(ice). it is converted but never destroyed. if you burn something it is changed into smoke/ash but not destoryed....learned that in high school ;)
Indeed

States of matter: Solid = Liquid = Gas >< Plasma
Matter = Energy

There can not be a ''creator'' or ''destroyer'' of the Universe.

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#106 Feb 14, 2013
Bigsmoke wrote:
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Not really.
The difference is your refusal to remain consistent in its application.
Lucifer

Jacksonville, FL

#107 Feb 14, 2013
MrAnderson9 wrote:
God is Real
God is the Beginning and the End
God is the Creator
God created you
You are not God
Man is not God
God is more intelligent than man.
You forgot to add "God is EVIL" to your list.

http://www.evilbible.com/Murder.htm

http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Examples_of_God_...
Confucious

Zebulon, NC

#108 Feb 14, 2013
“I am the Al&#8242;pha and the O&#8231;me&#8242;ga,” says Yahweh,“the One who is and who was and who is coming, the Almighty.””

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Jihad An-Nafs

#109 Feb 16, 2013
Article written by a Christian

I have heard many Christians say that evolution doesn't concern them because, after all, it's "only a theory." Presumably they think that the word "theory" means about the same thing as a "pipe dream." But the term theory, at least as it applies to experimental science, has a much nobler meaning than that. A scientific theory is a careful attempt to explain certain observable facts of nature by means of experiments. Since many Christians have concluded that evolution is incompatible with the Biblical account of creation, we would do well to investigate if evolution is a fact or a theory -- or perhaps neither.

There is a widespread misconception that good theories grow up to be facts and that the really good ones finally become laws. But these three categories of scientific description are neither directly related nor mutually exclusive. It often occurs that a single natural phenomenon can be described in terms of a theory, a fact, and a law -- all at the same time!

Consider the well-known phenomenon of gravity. First, there is a fact of gravity. While we cannot actually see gravitational force itself, we do observe the effects of this force every time we drop something. There is also a theory of gravity that addresses the question of how this force we call gravity really works. While we really don't know how gravity works, there are theories that attempt to explain it. Finally there is the well-known law of gravity. This law, first formulated by Isaac Newton, a Bible believing Christian and creationist, is a mathematical equation that shows a relationship between mass, distance and gravitational force. So in summary, a scientific fact is an observable natural occurrence; a scientific theory is an attempt to explain how this natural occurrence works; and, a scientific law is a mathematical description of this natural occurrence.

Science itself is the whole process of making careful observations of certain facts of nature and then constructing and testing theories that seek to explain those facts. We call these tests of a theory experiments. Experimental science, better known as empirical science, is the kind of science that is responsible for the marvelous technological achievements that make our life easier. One has only to consider what it would be like to endure surgery without anesthesia to appreciate the contributions of empirical science to our life.

The most important requirement of empirical science is that any object or phenomenon we wish to study must first be observable. While we may assume the existence of events not witnessed by human observers, such events are not suited to study by empirical science. Secondly, the object or phenomenon we wish to study must be repeatable. Unique and unrepeatable events, like say the Babylonian Empire, are the subject of history, not empirical science. Finally, any explanations we might propose for observable and repeatable phenomena must be testable. By this we mean that we must be able to conceive of an experiment that could refute our theory if it were wrong. If one were to propose an explanation for a phenomenon in such a way that no one could conceive of any way to test or refute it, it wouldn't be a theory at all, but rather a belief. Beliefs, of course, are not necessarily wrong or inappropriate, they just aren't well suited to study by empirical science.

What then shall we say of evolution? First, evolutionists tell us that major evolutionary changes happen far too slowly, or too rarely, to be observable in the lifetime of human observers. Most living organisms and their offspring are said to remain largely unchanged for tens of thousands, or even millions, of years. According to the evolutionist Theodosius Dobzhansky, even when evolutionary changes do occur, they are by nature "unique, unrepeatable, and irreversible."

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Jihad An-Nafs

#110 Feb 16, 2013
Still, the occurrence of evolution is widely believed to be a scientific "fact" and those who dare to doubt it are not endured gladly. The Encyclopedia Britannica confidently assures us that "we are not in the least doubt as to the fact of evolution." In his textbook _Evolution_, J. Savage says "we do not need a listing of the evidences to demonstrate the fact of evolution any more than we need to demonstrate the existence of mountain ranges." In another textbook titled _Outlines of General Zoology_, H. Newman arrogantly declared that evolution has no rival as an explanation for the origin of everything "except the outworn and completely refuted one of special creation, now retained only by the ignorant, the dogmatic, and the prejudicial."

What exactly is the "observable fact" of evolution? First you should be aware that evolutionists recognize two types of evolution -- micro evolution, which is observable, and macro evolution, which isn't. So called "micro evolution" is a process of limited variation among the individuals of a given species that produces the sort of variety we observe, for example, among dogs. Macro evolution, on the other hand, is a hypothetical process of unlimited variation that evolutionists believe transforms one kind of living organism into a fundamentally different kind such as the transformation of reptiles into birds or apes into people. Obviously, no one has ever observed anything remotely like this actually happen.

The very name "micro evolution" is intended to imply that it is this kind of variation that accumulates to produce macro evolution though a growing number of evolutionists admit there is no evidence for this. Thus an observable phenomenon is extrapolated into an unobservable phenomenon for which there is no evidence, and then the latter is declared to be a "fact" on the strength of the former. It is this kind of limitless extrapolation that comprises much of the argument for evolution.

In conclusion, evolution is not observable, repeatable, or refutable and thus does not qualify as either a scientific fact or theory. Evolution must be accepted with faith by its believers, many of whom deny the existence, or at least the power, of the Creator. Similarly, the Biblical account of creation is not observable, repeatable or refutable by man. Special creation is accepted with faith by those who believe that the Bible is the revelation of an omnipotent and omniscient Creator whose Word is more reliable than the speculations of men. Both evolution and creation, however, can be compared for their compatibility with what we do observe of the facts of nature. In the months ahead, we will see that creation by intelligent design is a vastly more reasonable explanation for the origin of the complexity we see in living things than is evolution by mere chance and the intrinsic properties of nature.

Dr. Menton received his Ph.D. in Biology from Brown University. He has been involved in biomedical research and education for over 30 years
The King

Indian Trail, NC

#111 Apr 12, 2013
Great Thread

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bamako,mali

#112 Apr 13, 2013
Very interesting indeed !

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Dakar, Senegal

#113 Apr 13, 2013
GOD is seated at the higher level of the heavens (dimensions)and he won't come to earth because of the dirty state of our planet(mainly actually).If he would ever come upon us,he would burn all of us (his power is greater than the SUN's power)because of the fact that he is as pure as the crystal and he don't easily approach the dirtiness...

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#114 Apr 14, 2013
bourobou prince wrote:
GOD is seated at the higher level of the heavens (dimensions)and he won't come to earth because of the dirty state of our planet(mainly actually).If he would ever come upon us,he would burn all of us (his power is greater than the SUN's power)because of the fact that he is as pure as the crystal and he don't easily approach the dirtiness...
Obviously your God was incapable of or unwilling to create a perfect world as He is responsible for the "dirty state of our planet" as you put it.

Raptors Revenge

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#115 Apr 14, 2013
Edthirty wrote:
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Obviously your God was incapable of or unwilling to create a perfect world as He is responsible for the "dirty state of our planet" as you put it.
Man made the planet dirty. Not God.

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Fort Worth, Texas

#116 Apr 14, 2013
Raptors Revenge wrote:
<quoted text>Man made the planet dirty. Not God.
So your God who made the "man that made the planet dirty," refuses or cannot make a personal appearance and take corrective action, right?

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bamako,mali

#117 Apr 14, 2013
sorry wrong thread !

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#118 Apr 14, 2013
Edthirty wrote:
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So your God who made the "man that made the planet dirty," refuses or cannot make a personal appearance and take corrective action, right?
what god u reffering to buddy.. Listen up.. Who pollutes the water, created war, butcher the animals, rape, kill and steal.. Huh.. Shud up.. Man.. Not god.. But if u talking about jesus.. Then remember this.. Ur god.. Is urself.. U dont even know him and even if u lived a million years.. U wont.. Cause he is infinite.. And eternal.. And as jesus said it.. Every hair ön ur head he has counted.. Do u know how many hair on ur head mr ed..

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#119 Apr 14, 2013
Heres a fact.. Even athiest suffer.. Lol but by then it b too late

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#121 Apr 15, 2013
Edthirty wrote:
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So your God who made the "man that made the planet dirty," refuses or cannot make a personal appearance and take corrective action, right?
This is where you are very weak in your argument. If God returned and took control of everything, made everyone do the right thing, fixed all the problems, then he would be taking away your freedom of choice. Then you would be crying like hell that he is not a GOD, but a slave master that took away your freedom. You would be no more than a puppet under his control. As a parent I will never take full control of my children and treat them as slaves to abide by my every rule. They have to learn a lot of things for themselves. No child is going to not touch fire after I tell them not to. But after they touch it they understand why I told them not to. This is exactly the same thing God does with us. If the world is fckd up, there's nobody to blame but us.

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Fort Worth, Texas

#122 Apr 15, 2013
Raptors Revenge wrote:
<quoted text>This is where you are very weak in your argument. If God returned and took control of everything, made everyone do the right thing, fixed all the problems, then he would be taking away your freedom of choice. Then you would be crying like hell that he is not a GOD, but a slave master that took away your freedom. You would be no more than a puppet under his control. As a parent I will never take full control of my children and treat them as slaves to abide by my every rule. They have to learn a lot of things for themselves. No child is going to not touch fire after I tell them not to. But after they touch it they understand why I told them not to. This is exactly the same thing God does with us. If the world is fckd up, there's nobody to blame but us.
Your last line is true, however, the rest of what you wrote makes you sound like another God apologist. Why would a God that represents peace and love allow for any evil or wrongdoing? Why is bad or evil a choice?

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#123 Apr 15, 2013
god is fake
god dont exist
god is emotional clutch
god is imaginary
god sucks a mean dik
god is the tooth fairy
god didnt create shyt

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#124 Apr 15, 2013
Mint cookies wrote:
god is fake
god dont exist
god is emotional clutch
god is imaginary
god sucks a mean dik
god is the tooth fairy
god didnt create shyt
the god taught to americans.. Lol.. Why ur fat, lazy, lustful, stupid and stink.. I like this saying.. The absence of god.. Is the exsitence of evil..

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#125 Apr 15, 2013
Edthirty wrote:
<quoted text>
Your last line is true, however, the rest of what you wrote makes you sound like another God apologist. Why would a God that represents peace and love allow for any evil or wrongdoing? Why is bad or evil a choice?
mr ed.. Go read what mint cookies thoughts on god.. Was that the thoughts of god.. Or like u a creature.. You see.. Sometimes we like to think.. Oh lets just burn a church and.. Blashampy gods name.. Lol he gonna do nothing.. He aint there.. Guess what.. Why you will suffer.. Who makes u breath, see, smell, think.. And when its taken away.. Then u will understand how.. Important.. God was..

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