Is MONOGOMY Unatural??

“Back on cloud 9 :)”

Level 6

Since: Jun 12

Location hidden

#2018 Apr 28, 2013
__jaz__ wrote:
<quoted text>
You said it yourself right here in your post..The TRUE definition of selfishness which means you're playing semantics and misusing the word..There's only one definition to the word so how are we using the "bad" definition of selfishness???..we have the word selfish for a reason with a very specific definition, otherwise the word selfish would lose all meaning..being concerned with your own needs at the expense of others, there is no such thing as good selfishness..
Do you know what self internet is??? It's simply opportunism..basically wanting things for yourself and taking care of your needs..That's all..selfishness is being concerned with your own profit or pleasure at the expense of others or regardless of whether or not you're hurting others...
Again self interest in itself is not selfish, but pursuing your own self interest at the expense of others is selfishness..
Self internet? I know what you meant. Let me turn the question around to you. Do you know what self interest is? Let me paste the TRUE DEFINITION
-self interest
opportunism: taking advantage of opportunities without regard for the consequences for others. In other words....SELFISH!
lol.
Now whos "playing semantics"

“Back on cloud 9 :)”

Level 6

Since: Jun 12

Location hidden

#2019 Apr 28, 2013
By the way, Im not the one changing the meaning of the word. The word selfish has become broader to explain people that look after their own interest, even when it hurts no one else.
As I said, look at any link I posted...especially the last one from the doctor and they will speak of selfishness in a good way that doest fit the true definition.
I didnt prove your point. Nothing has changed in facts Ive stated and I pointed out that I wasnt using the true definition probably 7 pages or so ago.:)

“Back on cloud 9 :)”

Level 6

Since: Jun 12

Location hidden

#2020 Apr 28, 2013
A better definition
Definition of SELF-INTEREST
1: a concern for one's own advantage and well-being <acted out of self–interest and fear>
2: one's own interest or advantage <self–interest requires that we be generous in foreign aid>
#2 even gives an example that shows how charity can be for selfish reasons. lmao!
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/sel...

Thanks for proving my point...again
Cap Black

United States

#2021 Apr 28, 2013
910disaster wrote:
A better definition
Definition of SELF-INTEREST
1: a concern for one's own advantage and well-being <acted out of self–interest and fear>
2: one's own interest or advantage <self–interest requires that we be generous in foreign aid>
#2 even gives an example that shows how charity can be for selfish reasons. lmao!
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/sel... O
Thanks for proving my point...again
lol

“Hating Gives You Wrinkles”

Level 6

Since: Mar 12

The Sequel

#2022 Apr 28, 2013
910disaster wrote:
<quoted text>
Self internet? I know what you meant. Let me turn the question around to you. Do you know what self interest is? Let me paste the TRUE DEFINITION
-self interest
opportunism: taking advantage of opportunities without regard for the consequences for others. In other words....SELFISH!
lol.
Now whos "playing semantics"
Actually i do know what the true definition of self interest is ..you apparently still don't and don't see the clear distinction between it and selfishness lol..

It says taking advantage of opportunities without regard for the consequences of others in other words without regard for what others are doing or the outcome of other ppl's actions..which means self interest does not have to involve other ppl or their welfare/well being unlike selfishness..The definition says nothing about hurting ppl or being concerned with one's own profit or pleasure at the expense of others..self interest can't hurt others..selfishness can...

If i decide to take a walk in the park that's self interest..it has nothing to do with what others are doing or the outcome/end result of other's actions..(or the consequences of others) i'm simply doing what i want to do..

If I'm hungry and decide i want to feed myself that's self interest..It has nothing to do with others or their consequences..

Now add another person..:if i don't have enough food and i decide to feed myself and let my children starve I'm concerned with my own self interest at their expense, NOW it's selfishness..Self interest is simply being interested in self..wanting things for self and satisfying those needs and wants and it doesn't involve hurting anyone, it doesn't involve the possibility of hurting anyone, and it doesn't involve the lack of caring if others get hurt in the process of pursuing one's own self interest...

so in this case you're still the one playing semantics..I understood it perfectly..

Level 2

Since: Oct 12

Los Angeles, CA

#2023 Apr 28, 2013
__jaz__ wrote:
<quoted text>
Lol theres nothing wrong with your hair type...
Shum on. You know it.
Cap Black wrote:
I said "Just about every black women or man that I've known that dates only IR,.."
KingAceSuited-- "just say you meant most"..
No shit.Doesn't my above statement sound simular? I said "just about"(meaning not everyone)
Which would be a simple generalization(according to you),which is what I did.
<quoted text>
You did follow up with just about, but then followed up by asking "So is it wrong to generalize that most women sit down when they pee and men stand up?" when no one was referring to your statement about how people urinate.

I'm done though. I already understood, I still understand; I overstand.

“Back on cloud 9 :)”

Level 6

Since: Jun 12

Location hidden

#2024 Apr 28, 2013
__jaz__ wrote:
<quoted text>
Actually i do know what the true definition of self interest is ..you apparently still don't and don't see the clear distinction between it and selfishness lol..
It says taking advantage of opportunities without regard for the consequences of others in other words without regard for what others are doing or the outcome of other ppl's actions..which means self interest does not have to involve other ppl or their welfare/well being unlike selfishness..The definition says nothing about hurting ppl or being concerned with one's own profit or pleasure at the expense of others..self interest can't hurt others..selfishness can...
If i decide to take a walk in the park that's self interest..it has nothing to do with what others are doing or the outcome/end result of other's actions..(or the consequences of others) i'm simply doing what i want to do..
If I'm hungry and decide i want to feed myself that's self interest..It has nothing to do with others or their consequences..
Now add another person..:if i don't have enough food and i decide to feed myself and let my children starve I'm concerned with my own self interest at their expense, NOW it's selfishness..Self interest is simply being interested in self..wanting things for self and satisfying those needs and wants and it doesn't involve hurting anyone, it doesn't involve the possibility of hurting anyone, and it doesn't involve the lack of caring if others get hurt in the process of pursuing one's own self interest...
so in this case you're still the one playing semantics..I understood it perfectly..
OH MY GOD...CHICK, YOU'RE KILLING ME! LMAO!!
"It says taking advantage of opportunities without regard for the consequences of others in other words without regard for what others are doing or the outcome of other ppl's actions..which means self interest does not have to involve other ppl or their welfare/well being unlike selfishness"
"Without regard for others" means they ARE HURTING PEOPLE! lol You are too funny.
You know how they say terrorist have no regard for human life....same thing. No regard doesnt mean they dont bother them. LMAO!!! too funny

“Hating Gives You Wrinkles”

Level 6

Since: Mar 12

The Sequel

#2025 Apr 28, 2013
910disaster wrote:
By the way, Im not the one changing the meaning of the word. The word selfish has become broader to explain people that look after their own interest, even when it hurts no one else.
you've just described selfishness again which proves my point yet again..self interest is simply wanting for self and satisfying those needs..selfishness is pursuing one's own self interest at the expense of others or in your words "even when it hurts other ppl"..yes the word selfish has been misused by psychologists, biologists,etc and they have broadened the word to the point where the word selfishness can lose all meaning, but as i said we have the word for a reason..they were simply playing semantics in the link you posted and they were wrong about human nature..there is a such thing as pure altruism and i posted studies to you showing that and i don't recall you replying..
910disaster wrote:
As I said, look at any link I posted...especially the last one from the doctor and they will speak of selfishness in a good way that doest fit the true definition.
I didnt prove your point. Nothing has changed in facts Ive stated and I pointed out that I wasnt using the true definition probably 7 pages or so ago.:)
look you're proving my point again..they were using the word out of context and it didn't fit the "true definition." YOUR own words and you're admitting to not using the true definition which means you're also using it pout of context lol..It can't get any better than that..
here i will show you the difference:

http://www.presspublications.com/opinionscolu...

http://www.science20.com/gerhard_adam/blog/se...

http://ladyphilosophy.wordpress.com/2013/03/0...

http://adamsmithslostlegacy.blogspot.com/2011...

http://www.activistpost.com/2012/02/line-betw...

http://marketpower.typepad.com/market_power/2...

http://www.thedailybell.com/2590/Selfishness-...

“Back on cloud 9 :)”

Level 6

Since: Jun 12

Location hidden

#2026 Apr 28, 2013
__jaz__ wrote:
<quoted text>
If i decide to take a walk in the park that's self interest..it has nothing to do with what others are doing or the outcome/end result of other's actions..(or the consequences of others) i'm simply doing what i want to do..
If I'm hungry and decide i want to feed myself that's self interest..It has nothing to do with others or their consequences..
Now add another person..:if i don't have enough food and i decide to feed myself and let my children starve I'm concerned with my own self interest at their expense, NOW it's selfishness..Self interest is simply being interested in self..wanting things for self and satisfying those needs and wants and it doesn't involve hurting anyone, it doesn't involve the possibility of hurting anyone, and it doesn't involve the lack of caring if others get hurt in the process of pursuing one's own self interest...
so in this case you're still the one playing semantics..I understood it perfectly..
Your examples show that you in fact DO NOT know the definition of self interest.
What youre speaking in terms of choices. A decision to take a walk or grab something to eat does indeed only benefit you but it has NOTHING to do with self interest, or self care or anything else you can make up. lol.
You understand nothing, and it shows.

Maybe your not going by the TRUE definition of the word...Maybe, like selfish, there is a good and a bad meaning?
Problem is, I dont see anyone else using the term self interest to describe the mundane things like walking or eating. lol. The definition below even has the word selfish in it! hahaha
self-in·ter·est (slfntrst,-ntr-st)
n.
1. Selfish or excessive regard for one's personal advantage or interest.
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/self-interes...

Level 1

Since: Apr 13

Location hidden

#2027 Apr 28, 2013
__jaz__ wrote:
<quoted text>
Actually i do know what the true definition of self interest is ..you apparently still don't and don't see the clear distinction between it and selfishness lol..
It says taking advantage of opportunities without regard for the consequences of others in other words without regard for what others are doing or the outcome of other ppl's actions..which means self interest does not have to involve other ppl or their welfare/well being unlike selfishness..The definition says nothing about hurting ppl or being concerned with one's own profit or pleasure at the expense of others..self interest can't hurt others..selfishness can...
If i decide to take a walk in the park that's self interest..it has nothing to do with what others are doing or the outcome/end result of other's actions..(or the consequences of others) i'm simply doing what i want to do..
If I'm hungry and decide i want to feed myself that's self interest..It has nothing to do with others or their consequences..
Now add another person..:if i don't have enough food and i decide to feed myself and let my children starve I'm concerned with my own self interest at their expense, NOW it's selfishness..Self interest is simply being interested in self..wanting things for self and satisfying those needs and wants and it doesn't involve hurting anyone, it doesn't involve the possibility of hurting anyone, and it doesn't involve the lack of caring if others get hurt in the process of pursuing one's own self interest...
so in this case you're still the one playing semantics..I understood it perfectly..
Hey, Jaz...

>:)

“Hating Gives You Wrinkles”

Level 6

Since: Mar 12

The Sequel

#2028 Apr 28, 2013
910disaster wrote:
<quoted text>
OH MY GOD...CHICK, YOU'RE KILLING ME! LMAO!!
"It says taking advantage of opportunities without regard for the consequences of others in other words without regard for what others are doing or the outcome of other ppl's actions..which means self interest does not have to involve other ppl or their welfare/well being unlike selfishness"
"Without regard for others" means they ARE HURTING PEOPLE! lol You are too funny.
You know how they say terrorist have no regard for human life....same thing. No regard doesnt mean they dont bother them. LMAO!!! too funny
Without regard for other's CONSEQUENCES it does not say without regard for other's in general like selfishness does..READ the ENTIRE sentence don't try to take out one half of it like you just did by saying "without regard for others" when it clearly says without regard for other's consequences/what they are doing...Understand the difference...LOLOLOL oh wow..

“Hating Gives You Wrinkles”

Level 6

Since: Mar 12

The Sequel

#2029 Apr 28, 2013
910disaster wrote:
A better definition
Definition of SELF-INTEREST
1: a concern for one's own advantage and well-being <acted out of self–interest and fear>
2: one's own interest or advantage <self–interest requires that we be generous in foreign aid>
#2 even gives an example that shows how charity can be for selfish reasons. lmao!
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/sel...
Thanks for proving my point...again
not proving your point you're actually weakening your point.."a concern for one's own well-being" it doesn't even have to involve other ppl or hurting ppl..

“Hating Gives You Wrinkles”

Level 6

Since: Mar 12

The Sequel

#2030 Apr 28, 2013
KingAceSuited wrote:
<quoted text>
Shum on. You know it.
lol..:)

“Back on cloud 9 :)”

Level 6

Since: Jun 12

Location hidden

#2031 Apr 28, 2013
__jaz__ wrote:
<quoted text>you've just described selfishness again which proves my point yet again..self interest is simply wanting for self and satisfying those needs..selfishness is pursuing one's own self interest at the expense of others or in your words "even when it hurts other ppl"..yes the word selfish has been misused by psychologists, biologists,etc and they have broadened the word to the point where the word selfishness can lose all meaning, but as i said we have the word for a reason..they were simply playing semantics in the link you posted and they were wrong about human nature..there is a such thing as pure altruism and i posted studies to you showing that and i don't recall you replying..
<quoted text>
look you're proving my point again..they were using the word out of context and it didn't fit the "true definition." YOUR own words and you're admitting to not using the true definition which means you're also using it pout of context lol..It can't get any better than that..
here i will show you the difference:
http://www.presspublications.com/opinionscolu...
http://www.science20.com/gerhard_adam/blog/se...
http://ladyphilosophy.wordpress.com/2013/03/0...
http://adamsmithslostlegacy.blogspot.com/2011...
http://www.activistpost.com/2012/02/line-betw...
http://marketpower.typepad.com/market_power/2...
http://www.thedailybell.com/2590/Selfishness-...
lol
Its funny how you called me out for posting a blog, then you come and post several blog site to prove your point.
No go.
When I posted about the term selfish being used for both good and bad, not only did I post actual definitions...I used scientific studies...not freaking blogs.
The 1 time I did...you called me out

“Hating Gives You Wrinkles”

Level 6

Since: Mar 12

The Sequel

#2032 Apr 28, 2013
-TSL-___VII wrote:
<quoted text>
Hey, Jaz...
>:)
???

“Back on cloud 9 :)”

Level 6

Since: Jun 12

Location hidden

#2033 Apr 28, 2013
Im going to try to help you Jaz...just because you're funny.
Gimmie a sec to see if I can find your definition on a useful site.

“Hating Gives You Wrinkles”

Level 6

Since: Mar 12

The Sequel

#2034 Apr 28, 2013
910disaster wrote:
<quoted text>
Your examples show that you in fact DO NOT know the definition of self interest.
What youre speaking in terms of choices. A decision to take a walk or grab something to eat does indeed only benefit you but it has NOTHING to do with self interest, or self care or anything else you can make up. lol.
You understand nothing, and it shows.
Maybe your not going by the TRUE definition of the word...Maybe, like selfish, there is a good and a bad meaning?
Problem is, I dont see anyone else using the term self interest to describe the mundane things like walking or eating. lol. The definition below even has the word selfish in it! hahaha
self-in·ter·est (slfntrst,-ntr-st)
n.
1. Selfish or excessive regard for one's personal advantage or interest.
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/self-interes...
actually i do know the real meaning of self interest and in your link the two definitions contradict one another so which one is it??? the 1st one or the second one which doesn't involve other ppl ..
Now some ppl can act of of selfishness and label it self interest, but every last link i posted to you shows the clear distinction and actually some of them do use my example of feeding oneself when they're hungry..

you have ONE link that says different i have several that clearly show the distinction..

"Self-interest:
• a concern for one's own well-being

Selfish :
• concerned excessively or exclusively with oneself : seeking or concentrating on one's own advantage, pleasure, or well-being without regard for others.
• arising from concern with one's own welfare or advantage in disregard of others

Self-interest is essential for your happiness and well being. It enables you to provide food and shelter for you and your family. Self-interest is necessary for your economic and career success. If you are not concerned about yourself, who will be?

Selfishness is different than self-interest. Selfish people tend to be exclusively concerned about only themselves. They don’t care about anyone else and have no regard for other people. Selfish individuals may act in a manner that’s detrimental to others."

http://www.presspublications.com/opinionscolu...

http://www.science20.com/gerhard_adam/blog/se...

“Hating Gives You Wrinkles”

Level 6

Since: Mar 12

The Sequel

#2035 Apr 28, 2013
910disaster wrote:
<quoted text>
lol
Its funny how you called me out for posting a blog, then you come and post several blog site to prove your point.
No go.
When I posted about the term selfish being used for both good and bad, not only did I post actual definitions...I used scientific studies...not freaking blogs.
The 1 time I did...you called me out
I didn't post several blogs i posted articles. none of my links are blogs and i actually posted scientific studies several pages ago proving you wrong..

“Back on cloud 9 :)”

Level 6

Since: Jun 12

Location hidden

#2036 Apr 28, 2013
Also, I dont know if you realized it but...one of your links, while making your point also said the same thing I was saying. That selfish can be good. lol
Then it goes on by making a distinction in types of self interest by calling the good kind "bona fide", which would imply that there is another kind of self interest.

smh...so sad. lol

“Back on cloud 9 :)”

Level 6

Since: Jun 12

Location hidden

#2037 Apr 28, 2013
__jaz__ wrote:
<quoted text>
I didn't post several blogs i posted articles. none of my links are blogs and i actually posted scientific studies several pages ago proving you wrong..
'
Are you blind...can you not see the word "BLOG" in your links?

Tell me when this thread is updated:

Subscribe Now Add to my Tracker

Add your comments below

Characters left: 4000

Please note by submitting this form you acknowledge that you have read the Terms of Service and the comment you are posting is in compliance with such terms. Be polite. Inappropriate posts may be removed by the moderator. Send us your feedback.

African-American Discussions

Title Updated Last By Comments
News Barack Obama, our next President (Nov '08) 1 min Grey Ghost 1,536,179
White women are extremely jealous of bw! 12 min 2 Dogs 51
Indian Wh0rs are the Biggest Race-traitors on t... (Dec '14) 13 min Big Daddy 7
Why do American Blacks think they're Egyptians? (Apr '12) 15 min thetruth 3,703
Is Zoe Saldana a sellout? (Dec '14) 15 min Big Daddy 52
Kip - In Africa! 21 min Big Daddy 1
What would happen if blacks were given their ow... 23 min 2 Dogs 228
Black women want kids with that GOOD HAIR 27 min Big Daddy 36
HA HA HA! Trump cuts $1.7 TRILLION in welfare! 1 hr KIP 230
Why are black men so thirsty for white women? 3 hr SadButTrue 87
Interracial dating is gross! (Nov '10) 5 hr SadButTrue 104
More from around the web