“The wonderful me”

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In my wonderful world

#42 Dec 10, 2010
yea it is true, the girl is apparently divorced from Isaiah, but the grandma claims that she didnt leave Isaiah that Isaiah left Christinna because of all the fighting and such and that no Divorce papers were sent to them...i guess.
fan_12

Alexander City, AL

#43 Dec 11, 2010
Betty wrote:
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Don't you think that it would have been a good thing for him to take the football scholarship and have a chance at a college education or a lucrative future as a pro? This would set up a good financial future for his child. Sometimes you have to make sacrifices for the greater good. The young lady needs to grow a backbone and realize that this would be beneficial for her family and bite the bullet.
Reply: The young lady DID NOT tell him not to accept it, she wanted him to accept the scholarship because she had also signed up for community college to continue her education. That was a decision he made totally on his own.
fan_12

Alexander City, AL

#44 Dec 11, 2010
MEESA wrote:
what's wrong with asking for a dna test if the mother is not sure who's the father?
it's not their place to demand a DNA test. if he felt that there was a possibility that the child isn't his then it is his responsibility to ask her for it.
Keona

West Bloomfield, MI

#45 Dec 11, 2010
MEESA wrote:
what's wrong with asking for a dna test if the mother is not sure who's the father?
The problem is that it's not the father that asking for the test it's his family. If he believes it is his baby then that should be the end of it.
Keona

West Bloomfield, MI

#46 Dec 11, 2010
Mikah3 wrote:
My initial reaction to this issue is that it's a 50/50 "bad decision". I am NOT a fan of teen pregnancy. THAT is why I think it is a bad decision.
BUT.....
Being the mother of a male and female child I stop short of seeing females as VICTIMS in this scenario. The female (girl/woman) has more of a choice in the conception of a child.
And as a mother of a girl, I accept the responsibility of teaching her what it means to have such a powerful influence on society, ie birthing another human being into the world. Giving birth to another
human being is a powerful thing. Some of us don't give it (birthing a child into this world) as much credit as it's due.
My son gets a slightly different message.....Same emotion, different message.
That's just the way it is.....
Making a child is 50/50 always. You can't say the responsibility of using a contraception is more in the girls court because a guy should think about protecting himself too because making a child isn't the worst thing in this world anymore. Aids is a very real scenario for alot of you African Americans so let's just make it clear that anybody that decides to have sex should protect themselves in everyway possible not just the girl take responsibility for protecting her and her partner.
silly really

Chicago, IL

#47 Dec 12, 2010
Mikah3 wrote:
1. In case you guys missed my point. My links suggests that the girl stated that it (her daughters paternity) is a toss up between Isaiah and another young man. Given the scenario, I probably would have asked for a paternity test too. My sons future is important, especially if the young woman isn't 100% sure. I mean, REALLY, what mother of a young son would NOT want a paternity test if the young woman is NOT 100% sure?
2. Given the scenario. I'd be really upset with MY SON and HER. Why isn't this young lady on birth control? If you CAN have a baby, then you SHOULD be on birth control, or simply not having sex if you are not ready to be a mother.
3. I am teaching my son to be responsible. He is still a virgin, BTW. How do I know this?'Cause I talk to him monthly about the dangers of recreational sex. As far as I know he KNOWS he is not ready yet.
4. I am the mother of a male and female child. I am at BOTH ends of the spectrum. When my daughter reaches the age to become a mother. I will have to do what is necessary to ensure she does NOT become a mother too soon. It is MY responsibility to get her on birth control. Regardless of the moral conversations I will have with my daughter, I will definately get her on birth control.
In reference to your first point
I just watched the episode again & isiah's wife said "I know the baby is his because no other man's penis has gone onto my vagina." I would call that 100% sure.
Leah007

Dallas, TX

#49 Dec 13, 2010
Mikah,

Are you a liberal? It sure sounds like it. You obviously don't care about any sort of life but your own. You say that you don't see the teen mother as a victim here because she has the most choice in the life of the child. I feel so sorry for your children. You have talks with your teenage son monthly about his "recreational sex"? I am sorry to inform you, but lying is a teenagers best talent. Why in the world would he tell you he was ready to have sex? What teenage boy wants to discuss that with their MOTHER? And as for your poor daughter...you're going to put her on birth control when she starts her period? I'm sure you have your kids constantly walking on pins and needles around you, telling you what you'd like to hear.
This said, I pity the girl your son gets pregnant, God forbid. You're going to act EXACTLY like the grandmother in this show. Say Isaiah isn't the father. That would really be awful for him, but do you think the best decision there would be leaving the baby and Cristina? Did we forget the couple was together before the pregnancy? He obviously loves the girl and the baby. So he should walk out on them after they've become a family so he can have a better life at the...sandwich shop? A baby is not the plague, regardless of what you think. It's not the end of their life, it's just a differen, bumpier road. And as for your cousin, I have never heard such a thing. That is so shameful.
And you said if that happened, you'd have a heated discussion about why her daughter wasn't on birth control. That is the most ignorant thing I have ever heard.
I am a 19 year old college student who has a great relationship with my parents. They were always asking me questions about sex, making sure I was aware of the consequences and how to prevent them, and also enforcing abstinence. I was never allowed with a boy in my room and they always knew were I was.
REGARDLESS, teenagers will be teenagers. NO MATTER WHAT YOU TEACH. If the situation is presented, teens will take advantage. They will lie to their parents afterward and then grow up and realize how stupid they were. My parents would have never had a reason to know I should have been on birth control. So you say "exactly! That's why girls should be on it from the time they can conceive!" That is so extreme. Again, I say, your poor daughter. Teach them about condoms, enforce abstinence, monitor their every move, and you will be fine.

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#51 Dec 13, 2010
Keona wrote:
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Making a child is 50/50 always.
I agree, but as a mother of a female child, I think it is MORE of a responsibility for HER to make sure the guy uses a condom AND to make sure she doesn't become a mother before she is menatally, emotionally and financially ready. When a girl CAN be a mother, ie menstrual, then she should be prepped for the harsh reality of her future responsibility to society. That's just MY opinion.
Keona wrote:
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You can't say the responsibility of using a contraception is more in the girls court because a guy should think about protecting himself too because making a child isn't the worst thing in this world anymore.
That's just my opinion. My daughter will have to take birth control AND insist on the guy using a condom in order to cover herself from getting pregnant and getting an STD. Sorry, but guys don't get pregnant, they only have to use a condom.
Keona wrote:
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Aids is a very real scenario for alot of you African Americans so let's just make it clear that anybody that decides to have sex should protect themselves in everyway possible not just the girl take responsibility for protecting her and her partner.
That is NOT what I said, troll.....

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#52 Dec 13, 2010
silly really wrote:
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In reference to your first point
I just watched the episode again & isiah's wife said "I know the baby is his because no other man's penis has gone onto my vagina." I would call that 100% sure.
I didn't see that episode. Just like everyone else I was posting from the episode that I'd seen. I posted links from TMZ to prove what the grandmother stated.

Don't shoot the messenger.

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#53 Dec 13, 2010
Leah007 wrote:
Mikah,
Are you a liberal? It sure sounds like it. You obviously don't care about any sort of life but your own. You say that you don't see the teen mother as a victim here because she has the most choice in the life of the child. I feel so sorry for your children. You have talks with your teenage son monthly about his "recreational sex"? I am sorry to inform you, but lying is a teenagers best talent. Why in the world would he tell you he was ready to have sex? What teenage boy wants to discuss that with their MOTHER? And as for your poor daughter...you're going to put her on birth control when she starts her period? I'm sure you have your kids constantly walking on pins and needles around you, telling you what you'd like to hear.
This said, I pity the girl your son gets pregnant, God forbid. You're going to act EXACTLY like the grandmother in this show. Say Isaiah isn't the father. That would really be awful for him, but do you think the best decision there would be leaving the baby and Cristina? Did we forget the couple was together before the pregnancy? He obviously loves the girl and the baby. So he should walk out on them after they've become a family so he can have a better life at the...sandwich shop? A baby is not the plague, regardless of what you think. It's not the end of their life, it's just a differen, bumpier road. And as for your cousin, I have never heard such a thing. That is so shameful.
And you said if that happened, you'd have a heated discussion about why her daughter wasn't on birth control. That is the most ignorant thing I have ever heard.
I am a 19 year old college student who has a great relationship with my parents. They were always asking me questions about sex, making sure I was aware of the consequences and how to prevent them, and also enforcing abstinence. I was never allowed with a boy in my room and they always knew were I was.
REGARDLESS, teenagers will be teenagers. NO MATTER WHAT YOU TEACH. If the situation is presented, teens will take advantage. They will lie to their parents afterward and then grow up and realize how stupid they were. My parents would have never had a reason to know I should have been on birth control. So you say "exactly! That's why girls should be on it from the time they can conceive!" That is so extreme. Again, I say, your poor daughter. Teach them about condoms, enforce abstinence, monitor their every move, and you will be fine.
I'm kinda busy now, but I WILL answer this later.
Aaliyah

Alexander City, AL

#54 Dec 16, 2010
I've watched this episode like a thousand times and i didnt like how Isaha's side of the family treated his wife.It's like the whole family wanted him to not take responsibility and to just take hi cholarhip and forget about Destiny(the baby) but obiviously his mom taught him well because he didnt leave for college and he didnt let his grandma, sister, nor mother talk him into leaving his baby and on the episode he did tell the women that things like that would need to be discussed between him and christina.&& then again he really do love this girl because on the unseen footages Christina left and went to NewYork to be with her family and he realized that he cant be without her nor his baby.So whoeva raised him they did raise him to be the best and provide for his family...(im proud of him)but anyway christina was a virgin so of course it was his baby anyway his folks were just selfish && his gma needs to know her place because she called her great grand child "something".
Aaliyah

Alexander City, AL

#55 Dec 16, 2010
fan_12 wrote:
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it's not their place to demand a DNA test. if he felt that there was a possibility that the child isn't his then it is his responsibility to ask her for it.
that is so true..his people were just mad because he didnt accept his scholarship and they blamed her for it.
Mommie Dearest 47

Fort Washington, MD

#56 Dec 17, 2010
Oh stop beating up on Isiah's grandmother and mother. His granny and mom are old school and can smell a rat when they see one. I am sorry they were right on point. Here this city gurl comes into his life and his family ends up basically taking care of her and then she is talking smack. Oh for real I would have been all over her azz too!! Everyone is on Christina's side but being real I have concerns about her motives. If she was on her way to making a career why in the world would you allow yourself to be put into this type of predicament? Oh she knew exactly what she was doing thats for sure.

(1) Christina street smart gurl from NYC meeting nice looking country boy Isiah whom is not that street smart and from the country. Being real she would have never met someone like Isiah in NYC and she knew that. Thats why she immediately got pregnant and talked him into marriage. Trying to hold on to a good man and Isiah is definitely that.

Come on folks where is Christina's family? Her Mom up and left her down south and you never seen anymore contact with her at all. Which I found to be a little crazy to me which made we wonder what was really going on with her and your Mom and family.

Mark my words the next problem I see for them is that Christina is going to get jealous of all the attention that Isiah will be giving to their child. Christina is selfish and spoiled and wants everything to be about her and if thats the case she should have thought about that before playing the ookie doke "getting prego to hold onto a man" game.

In these days and times there is no place for young men and women to make children that they expect everyone else to care for. In the majority of these cases the kids expect their family and friends to help them out like its a given and its not fair to their family and friends. If you thought you were grown enough to lay up and get prego you are grown enough to care for your child. JMO
LeosMama

Schenectady, NY

#57 Dec 18, 2010
Mommie Dearest- Christina is from Rochester- that's hardly NYC...learn some geography. You obviously cannot possibly know that she "trapped" him and then "talked him into marriage". If you actually paid attention to the show then you would have heard when Isiah said it was HIS decision not to go ahead with the scholarship and that it didn't feel right for him to continue with it. Christina seems like she's doing the best she can. You need to remember it takes TWO to make a baby...Isiah laid down with her and is just as responsible- for all we know he may have "trapped" her!

Mikah- You seriously need to lighten up. Teenagers DO get pregnant and putting them on birth control as soon as they start their period is sending a terrible message. If you rais eyour kids right and teach them right from worng then they should be fine. Still, some may slip up and get themselves into these situations. You need to remember that your kids are HUMAN just like you...you can do all you want and control them all you want but in the end they're going to make their own choices and all you can do is hope you raised them well enough to make the right ones.

I liked Isiah and Christina. I think they're doing the best they can with what they have. It's hard to be young parents and to try to keep a relationship together too.
I wish them all the best.
Oh, and Mommie Dearest and Mikah-I really hope you get some help.
Grid

Mount Morris, MI

#58 Dec 21, 2010
why is everyone talkin as if everyone is the same. Lets not throw stones because we ALL have different priorities and ways of analyzing things. Theres tons of different ways to look at this situation. He could have left...played football 4 years...which makes no money..and u are not allowed to work..leavin her by herself..and sacraficing and struggling while having to care for a baby virtually alone. Then IF and when he made the NFL providing he had not injuries etc he could provide for his baby. While all the while the baby is struggling. You really cant have IFs when you have a child...on the other side with him stayin he can at least help hands on raise his child...it will b a struggle..but this way it wouldnt be a one person sacrafices everything and the other doesnt..there are both pros and cons to this situation and its up to them to see which one works best. Whats easy for u..may not b easy for me..and vice versa. i think they are doing the best they can with what they can..at 16...
Just Me

Rising Fawn, GA

#59 Dec 28, 2010
I saw the episode and I think her (the baby's mother) problem with the DNA request was that it was the grandmother pushing for it and NOT the baby's daddy (who didn't request it at least not on the show) I can't blame her for not taking the test for the grandmother who showed no respect for her. It seemed the grandmother of the baby's dad wanted to put all the blame on the baby's mother. It takes two!
I also disagree with those saying the female is responsible to be on birth control and they would be upset if their son's gf became pregnant because she wasn't "responsible" enough to prevent it. Again, it takes two and the responsibility lies with both the female and male to prevent pregnancy. Abstinance is the only sure way to prevent it. Not only that but birth control alone will not prevent std's.
Ashley D

Orlando, FL

#60 Jan 3, 2011
Betty wrote:
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Don't you think that it would have been a good thing for him to take the football scholarship and have a chance at a college education or a lucrative future as a pro? This would set up a good financial future for his child. Sometimes you have to make sacrifices for the greater good. The young lady needs to grow a backbone and realize that this would be beneficial for her family and bite the bullet.
Ohh My GOSH.!!!!!!!!! I Thought The EXACT SAME THING No Liee. He Should Of Went Off With That Scholarship So He Can Make It Pro And Have Money For The Baby. Whether He Would Be With Christina In The End Or Not When He Was A Pro That Baby And Her Would Be Taken Care Of Either Waay. Ughh I Wish I CouldveSomehow Told Them That It Makes A LOT Of Sense!
ziya

Bronx, NY

#61 Jan 3, 2011
fan_12 wrote:
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it's not their place to demand a DNA test. if he felt that there was a possibility that the child isn't his then it is his responsibility to ask her for it.
its his family, maybe they are trying to save him from something he might regret when hes older and wiser. why get attached to a child and later find out shes not yours......

he is young, so his family's trying to help him, and this is if the girl actually said the baby could be someones elses
ziya

Bronx, NY

#62 Jan 3, 2011
but...if this was on BET everybody would have a problem with this show. you know how you all hate BET but can watch and discuss garbage like this on MTV

smmfh

“The wonderful me”

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In my wonderful world

#63 Jan 6, 2011
MTV owns BET most of us have a problem with BET because its not the same as it use to be! I personally don't care for none of it including VH1 but most have watched this show and episode because there was nothing on TV!

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