The Decline of Black Population
Black Deal

United States

#812 Apr 5, 2013
Time and Space wrote:
<quoted text>Yes, the 'blue collar class'...has it harder these days...

And usually exists in what I call 'The working class hood'...

Where you have a mix of non degreed professionals living in and around the 'criminal class' element and the 'voucher class' element...

It can be a burden to the blue collar class to have to live in and around the other two classes, and it can be hard to find inspiration in such areas...

The 'white collar'...or 'degreed professional class' or the 'wealthy class' of blacks, or people of color, are further separating themselves from the hood class types...

And probably as they should...

Why should they be burdened all their lives feeling like they have to relate to a 'deginerate' class of urban dweller who has no intentions of bettering self...

I know that may sound harsh, and my views have changed on that over the years...

But as wealthy whites enjoy the status of their wealth, and don't feel burdened to help or visit or relate to trailer parks, nor should affluent blacks, who have their act together, always feel burdened to help paroled inmates and those in public housing.

Nothing is static, everything is always changing and shifting, and it will be interesting to see the make up of this country in another 100 years...
You keeping it real

“Pancakes and eggs...”

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#813 Apr 6, 2013
Black Deal wrote:
<quoted text>
You keeping it real
Thanks...

If I didn't care...I wouldn't post...

It's because I care, that I make people upset at times...
Phoenix

Houston, TX

#814 Apr 7, 2013
Time and Space wrote:
<quoted text>Yes, the 'blue collar class'...has it harder these days...

And usually exists in what I call 'The working class hood'...

Where you have a mix of non degreed professionals living in and around the 'criminal class' element and the 'voucher class' element...

It can be a burden to the blue collar class to have to live in and around the other two classes, and it can be hard to find inspiration in such areas...

The 'white collar'...or 'degreed professional class' or the 'wealthy class' of blacks, or people of color, are further separating themselves from the hood class types...

And probably as they should...

Why should they be burdened all their lives feeling like they have to relate to a 'deginerate' class of urban dweller who has no intentions of bettering self...

I know that may sound harsh, and my views have changed on that over the years...

But as wealthy whites enjoy the status of their wealth, and don't feel burdened to help or visit or relate to trailer parks, nor should affluent blacks, who have their act together, always feel burdened to help paroled inmates and those in public housing.

Nothing is static, everything is always changing and shifting, and it will be interesting to see the make up of this country in another 100 years...
It is what it is. Class trumps race.
Phoenix

Houston, TX

#815 Apr 7, 2013
Time and Space wrote:
<quoted text>Thanks...

If I didn't care...I wouldn't post...

It's because I care, that I make people upset at times...
The truth often makes people uncomfortable.
the boundaries of space

Atlanta, GA

#816 Apr 14, 2013
Decline Of Black Military Enlistees In The 21st Century

Some may argue this is because of black's (mostly males) increasing anger and distrust of our U.S. government - another more tangible possibility is because they're simply not reproducing fast enough to sustain a significant portion of the country's population and consequently, its military force.

http://www.topix.com/forum/afam/TDHBEAJHK472I...

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#818 Apr 14, 2013
It is not so much the decline of the Black population that disturbs me. What really disturbs me is the decline of unity, respect, and love within the Black community for one another.
Black people can sometimes be a worse enemy to
Blacks than White racism is.

If Black people as a whole would respect one another, support one another, and work together to address the problems within some segments in the Black community it would be a much better world for Black people.

Black on Black crime; out of wed lock births; drugs; high school drop out rate; low marriage rates (Black marrying Black); HIV / AIDS rate; are just a few problems that Black people need to address and correct.

Of course there are some Black people who are productive, educated, successful, and making positive contributions to the Black community, but I feel that ALL Black people need to be doing this and/or supporting this.

If Black people don't address and correct the issues that are holding them down as a people, it will not matter what the Black population is.

“Pancakes and eggs...”

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#819 Apr 14, 2013
Definition...kind of clouds things...

For instance...'black' is not a ethic, or ideal, or a system of values or religion...'black' is simple a generic term used to describe basically anyone who has a lot, or some, ancestral lineage from 'Africa'....

It's hard for people to 'unite' under such a broad, generic term...

In other parts of the world, people 'unite' based on culture or religion or national identity...not under some generic color designation.

Which is meaningless to some, cause it really doesn't describe who they are or what the ascribe for...

And 'blacks' unlike any other people on earth, are burdened with this generic designation...

Which started in America, then spread outward...

That designation that is...

People fail, or do drugs, or get involved in criminal activity do to personal choice...and or other life circumstances...

Not cause they're 'black'....

The Aryon Brotherhood commits heinous crimes, not cause they're 'white' but do to personal choices as induvisuals....

So 'stats' are meaningless, to those who first identify with values or virtue or ethics, and who then see the shade or color of their skin as being no more significant to who they are than the size of their feet or ears...

Stats can be hideous in that it's basically 'Lazy science' for one...and for two makes people feel connected to others that they have nothing in common with....

'Stats' are a way of making you feel 'bound' to a group of people, with lifestyles and life choices, that you, as an induvisual, have nothing to do with or control over.

And usually people who post stats have sinister intentions...and do so out of spite....

People who post stats, aren't interested in solutions, rather they're interested in 'taunting' those who see themselves as induvisuals and who have grown and graduated beyond the usual muck of self destruction...

Through 'stats' such induvisuals try to hold responsible people accountable for those who are not...
Like holding one stranger accountable for another stranger..

And that's the problem that arises with this generic term 'black'....

It just lumps to many people or variables together under one umbrella...
Phoenix

Houston, TX

#820 Apr 14, 2013
IkeLike wrote:
It is not so much the decline of the Black population that disturbs me. What really disturbs me is the decline of unity, respect, and love within the Black community for one another.
Black people can sometimes be a worse enemy to
Blacks than White racism is.

If Black people as a whole would respect one another, support one another, and work together to address the problems within some segments in the Black community it would be a much better world for Black people.

Black on Black crime; out of wed lock births; drugs; high school drop out rate; low marriage rates (Black marrying Black); HIV / AIDS rate; are just a few problems that Black people need to address and correct.

Of course there are some Black people who are productive, educated, successful, and making positive contributions to the Black community, but I feel that ALL Black people need to be doing this and/or supporting this.

If Black people don't address and correct the issues that are holding them down as a people, it will not matter what the Black population is.
Other groups of people have faded away in the annals of history.

We all are witnessing the extinction for lack of better term of African Americans.
London

Powell, OH

#821 Apr 14, 2013
Time and Space wrote:
Definition...kind of clouds things...
For instance...'black' is not a ethic, or ideal, or a system of values or religion...'black' is simple a generic term used to describe basically anyone who has a lot, or some, ancestral lineage from 'Africa'....
It's hard for people to 'unite' under such a broad, generic term...
In other parts of the world, people 'unite' based on culture or religion or national identity...not under some generic color designation.
Which is meaningless to some, cause it really doesn't describe who they are or what the ascribe for...
And 'blacks' unlike any other people on earth, are burdened with this generic designation...
Which started in America, then spread outward...
That designation that is...
People fail, or do drugs, or get involved in criminal activity do to personal choice...and or other life circumstances...
Not cause they're 'black'....
The Aryon Brotherhood commits heinous crimes, not cause they're 'white' but do to personal choices as induvisuals....
So 'stats' are meaningless, to those who first identify with values or virtue or ethics, and who then see the shade or color of their skin as being no more significant to who they are than the size of their feet or ears...
Stats can be hideous in that it's basically 'Lazy science' for one...and for two makes people feel connected to others that they have nothing in common with....
'Stats' are a way of making you feel 'bound' to a group of people, with lifestyles and life choices, that you, as an induvisual, have nothing to do with or control over.
And usually people who post stats have sinister intentions...and do so out of spite....
People who post stats, aren't interested in solutions, rather they're interested in 'taunting' those who see themselves as induvisuals and who have grown and graduated beyond the usual muck of self destruction...
Through 'stats' such induvisuals try to hold responsible people accountable for those who are not...
Like holding one stranger accountable for another stranger..
And that's the problem that arises with this generic term 'black'....
It just lumps to many people or variables together under one umbrella...
Not all together true. Blacks choose to treat their race as a culture so that they could then call folks like Mariah black. That's a choice blacks made as a group. So that is genetic genocide and takes away value from the actual race itself.

Race has always been on the table, no matter what the word was. Skin color has always been an automatic warning signal to people of whose friend or foe. You are doing what many do, which is confuse culture with race because blacks are the only group to infuse the two when they aren't the same at all. If you live in Africa or anywhere else in the world where the majority of the people share the same skin tone, you aren't going to then divide by skin tone. That wouldn't make sense. So, they divide by culture with the understanding that they are still all one genetically. Blacks don't get this or at least feign ignorance enough to not get this. So, that's why the black population is declining. It's declining because that's whats supposed to happen when one takes on such a genocidal thought process.
London

Powell, OH

#822 Apr 14, 2013
Phoenix wrote:
<quoted text>
Other groups of people have faded away in the annals of history.
We all are witnessing the extinction for lack of better term of African Americans.
Exactly. We won't be the first nor the last.
London

Powell, OH

#823 Apr 14, 2013
Time and Space wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes, the 'blue collar class'...has it harder these days...
And usually exists in what I call 'The working class hood'...
Where you have a mix of non degreed professionals living in and around the 'criminal class' element and the 'voucher class' element...
It can be a burden to the blue collar class to have to live in and around the other two classes, and it can be hard to find inspiration in such areas...
The 'white collar'...or 'degreed professional class' or the 'wealthy class' of blacks, or people of color, are further separating themselves from the hood class types...
And probably as they should...
Why should they be burdened all their lives feeling like they have to relate to a 'deginerate' class of urban dweller who has no intentions of bettering self...
I know that may sound harsh, and my views have changed on that over the years...
But as wealthy whites enjoy the status of their wealth, and don't feel burdened to help or visit or relate to trailer parks, nor should affluent blacks, who have their act together, always feel burdened to help paroled inmates and those in public housing.
Nothing is static, everything is always changing and shifting, and it will be interesting to see the make up of this country in another 100 years...
Wealthy whites of the past have already paid their dues to the folks who made there wealth possible. That's how this country became to be as great as it is to begin with. So that comparison is a little off.

However, I do feel that blacks who feel they shouldn't be "burdened" by blacks who aren't doing as well financially as some of them, shouldn't go around blacks. No one should feel obligated to pour resources they've "earned" to a group they don't feel is worthy of such a thing. But those same blacks need to also understand the blacks on the lower rung don't owe them anything either (as most of them made there money off the backs of the same people they turn their nose up on now). I know many of them try to switch up and join whites in order to maintain what they've built off the backs of blacks but this fails more than it succeeds.
Phoenix

Houston, TX

#824 Apr 14, 2013
London wrote:
<quoted text>Wealthy whites of the past have already paid their dues to the folks who made there wealth possible. That's how this country became to be as great as it is to begin with. So that comparison is a little off.

However, I do feel that blacks who feel they shouldn't be "burdened" by blacks who aren't doing as well financially as some of them, shouldn't go around blacks. No one should feel obligated to pour resources they've "earned" to a group they don't feel is worthy of such a thing. But those same blacks need to also understand the blacks on the lower rung don't owe them anything either (as most of them made there money off the backs of the same people they turn their nose up on now). I know many of them try to switch up and join whites in order to maintain what they've built off the backs of blacks but this fails more than it succeeds.
Class trumps race.

“Pancakes and eggs...”

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#825 Apr 14, 2013
London wrote:
<quoted text>
Not all together true. Blacks choose to treat their race as a culture so that they could then call folks like Mariah black. That's a choice blacks made as a group. So that is genetic genocide and takes away value from the actual race itself.
Race has always been on the table, no matter what the word was. Skin color has always been an automatic warning signal to people of whose friend or foe. You are doing what many do, which is confuse culture with race because blacks are the only group to infuse the two when they aren't the same at all. If you live in Africa or anywhere else in the world where the majority of the people share the same skin tone, you aren't going to then divide by skin tone. That wouldn't make sense. So, they divide by culture with the understanding that they are still all one genetically. Blacks don't get this or at least feign ignorance enough to not get this. So, that's why the black population is declining. It's declining because that's whats supposed to happen when one takes on such a genocidal thought process.
I barely understand what your conveying other than typical colonialism definition of things through what makes sense to you...not others...

And again...'blacks' is kind of a useless term here....

Basically meaningless...

You typically describe 'blacks' as someone does who is never around that diverse pool of personalities, class, style, religions, genders and orientations...

If you were around various peoples of color, you would not describe them in such a Darwin point of view...

Bottom line...

INDUVISUALS are declining...on a induvisual basis...those who make bad decisions...

Healthy, responsible people...who you would describe as 'black' are not declining...they're prospering and multiplying...

Try to comprehend that if you bias mind will allow...

“Pancakes and eggs...”

Level 4

Since: Jan 10

Location hidden

#826 Apr 14, 2013
London wrote:
<quoted text>
Not all together true. Blacks choose to treat their race as a culture so that they could then call folks like Mariah black. That's a choice blacks made as a group. So that is genetic genocide and takes away value from the actual race itself.
Race has always been on the table, no matter what the word was. Skin color has always been an automatic warning signal to people of whose friend or foe. You are doing what many do, which is confuse culture with race because blacks are the only group to infuse the two when they aren't the same at all. If you live in Africa or anywhere else in the world where the majority of the people share the same skin tone, you aren't going to then divide by skin tone. That wouldn't make sense. So, they divide by culture with the understanding that they are still all one genetically. Blacks don't get this or at least feign ignorance enough to not get this. So, that's why the black population is declining. It's declining because that's whats supposed to happen when one takes on such a genocidal thought process.
And 'blacks' or 'former slaves' didn't choose to define themselves as separate from 'whites'...

Have you conviently forgotten history?

In 1938...what would have occurred if a non white person attended a 'white' church?

Did you some how forget about mandated segregation?
Jim Crow laws, reconstruction?

The Birth of a Nation time period?

The various peoples now known as 'blacks' were forced, or corralled together by a very skin racist society...so back then people of color had no choice but to come together to survive...

Like if Aliens from out of space invaded this country...

Either your Alien or you're human...

All the humans would come together, be lumped in together, by the aliens...as 'one'...even though they're not...

And whites have done the same with 'blacks'...have lumped various peoples, with various ancestry, habits, religons, education levels, classes, skin tones, backgrounds, geographic locations, and even language, together all as one...

And at best it's very sloppy science...at worst it's foul and keeps freed induvisuals bound to others they have nothing in common with other than humanity...

A black persons know more responsible for someone being in the hood than you are...
London

Powell, OH

#827 Apr 14, 2013
Time and Space wrote:
<quoted text>
I barely understand what your conveying other than typical colonialism definition of things through what makes sense to you...not others...
And again...'blacks' is kind of a useless term here....
Basically meaningless...
You typically describe 'blacks' as someone does who is never around that diverse pool of personalities, class, style, religions, genders and orientations...
If you were around various peoples of color, you would not describe them in such a Darwin point of view...
Bottom line...
INDUVISUALS are declining...on a induvisual basis...those who make bad decisions...
Healthy, responsible people...who you would describe as 'black' are not declining...they're prospering and multiplying...
Try to comprehend that if you bias mind will allow...
Actually you sound bias against genetic blacks. And afterall those are the blacks we are speaking about. So called culture defined blacks don't really exist.
London

Powell, OH

#828 Apr 14, 2013
Phoenix wrote:
<quoted text>
Class trumps race.
Not really.

“Pancakes and eggs...”

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Since: Jan 10

Location hidden

#829 Apr 14, 2013
Sorry for the spelling...Topix is constantly force feeding so many 'apps' that it makes your key pad skip....

Topix keeps literally trying to shove adds down your throat, that it interferes with the key pad at times...
London

Powell, OH

#830 Apr 14, 2013
IkeLike wrote:
It is not so much the decline of the Black population that disturbs me. What really disturbs me is the decline of unity, respect, and love within the Black community for one another.
Black people can sometimes be a worse enemy to
Blacks than White racism is.
If Black people as a whole would respect one another, support one another, and work together to address the problems within some segments in the Black community it would be a much better world for Black people.
Black on Black crime; out of wed lock births; drugs; high school drop out rate; low marriage rates (Black marrying Black); HIV / AIDS rate; are just a few problems that Black people need to address and correct.
Of course there are some Black people who are productive, educated, successful, and making positive contributions to the Black community, but I feel that ALL Black people need to be doing this and/or supporting this.
If Black people don't address and correct the issues that are holding them down as a people, it will not matter what the Black population is.
If you don't have respect for your genetics, respect for yourself and others, low marriage rates but too high birth rates to make up for the disparity in marriage, no unity, lack of love for oneself and/or community, the decline in the black population should happen. The decline is what should happen, so it's a natural reaction to such environments.

“Pancakes and eggs...”

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Since: Jan 10

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#831 Apr 14, 2013
London wrote:
<quoted text>
Actually you sound bias against genetic blacks. And afterall those are the blacks we are speaking about. So called culture defined blacks don't really exist.
Genetics has nothing to do with why people are 'declining'...

Learned behavior, and ethics after birth does...not genetics...

Unless you're the type that believes behavior and values are some how 'coded' within the genes...

Which would also mean 'homosexuality' is 'coded' within the genes...

And other behaviors 'god' calls wrong...

But if people are genetically coded to act and behave certain ways...than there can never be a judgment...

So which is it?
London

Powell, OH

#832 Apr 14, 2013
Time and Space wrote:
<quoted text>
Genetics has nothing to do with why people are 'declining'...
Learned behavior, and ethics after birth does...not genetics...
Unless you're the type that believes behavior and values are some how 'coded' within the genes...
Which would also mean 'homosexuality' is 'coded' within the genes...
And other behaviors 'god' calls wrong...
But if people are genetically coded to act and behave certain ways...than there can never be a judgment...
So which is it?
Are you denying the existence of genetically black people?

Are you denying the existence of genetically white people?

Are you denying the existence of genetically Asian people?

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