Ancient statues smuggled from Nigeria being returned home

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XYXYXYXY

Harrisburg, PA

#1 Oct 4, 2012
Ancient statues smuggled from Nigeria being returned home

NEW YORK — A handful of roughly 2,000-year-old figurines began a journey back home to Nigeria Thursday after being seized at John F. Kennedy Airport in New York City.

At a repatriation ceremony held at Homeland Security Investigation offices on the west side of Manhattan, Nigeria's Consul General Habib Baba Habu took legal possession of the terracotta sculptures, which he said had been stolen from the country's national museum.

Habu called today a special day. "It is the day that America has extended a gift of friendship that we will never forget," he said.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/48346178/ns/techn...
EBT Blackman

Jersey City, NJ

#3 Oct 4, 2012
XYXYXYXY wrote:
Ancient statues smuggled from Nigeria being returned home
NEW YORK — A handful of roughly 2,000-year-old figurines began a journey back home to Nigeria Thursday after being seized at John F.
Who would want them? My niece makes better ones from Play Doh.

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Since: Sep 12

South Africa

#5 Oct 4, 2012
Yes but your nieces play dough won't last 2000 years EBT Blackman. Yous that think between your ears and behind your nose.
XYXYXYXY

Harrisburg, PA

#7 Oct 4, 2012
EBT Blackman wrote:
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Who would want them? My niece makes better ones from Play Doh.
Did I at any moment suggest that YOU or anyone else should be interested in them for play or decorative purposes? Obviously someone wanted them desperately enough to go to the trouble of risking going to prison for them-right? So, those who are educated enough to know that their value goes far beyond what you are suggesting don't share your opinion do they?
EBT Blackman

Jersey City, NJ

#8 Oct 4, 2012
andrewza wrote:
Yes but your nieces play dough won't last 2000 years EBT Blackman. Yous that think between your ears and behind your nose.
Ever been to the National Museum of African Art in DC? Yeah, neither has anyone else....

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South Africa

#10 Oct 4, 2012
Never been to DC. To many retards.

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Since: Sep 12

South Africa

#12 Oct 4, 2012
No need to worship me. I just want your land, wives, money and unwavering loyalty.
EBT Blackman

Jersey City, NJ

#13 Oct 4, 2012
Axe V2 wrote:
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That would be "Too many retards," Your-Worship.
No, he's addressing his followers. "To Many Retards...."

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Since: Sep 12

South Africa

#15 Oct 4, 2012
I have followers. I never knew that.

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Since: Sep 12

South Africa

#18 Oct 4, 2012
In the land of the blind the one eyed man is king. So in the land of retards the normal man is king.
EBT Blackman

Jersey City, NJ

#19 Oct 4, 2012
andrewza wrote:
In the land of the blind the one eyed man is king. So in the land of retards the normal man is king.
OK, time to be serious here. Visit the Freer gallery of Asian Art in DC. Then visit the National Gallery of African Art.
After this, tell me if you can detect any difference in the relative craftsmanship of the objects.
I'll wait.
Categorical Imperative

Harrisburg, PA

#21 Oct 4, 2012
The Art of African Clay: Ancient and Historic African Ceramics, Douglas Dawson Gallery, Chicago Illinois, 2003.
http://www.warrenfrederick.com/articles/afric...
EBT Blackman

Jersey City, NJ

#22 Oct 4, 2012
Categorical Imperative wrote:
The Art of African Clay: Ancient and Historic African Ceramics, Douglas Dawson Gallery, Chicago Illinois, 2003.
http://www.warrenfrederick.com/articles/afric...
Nice... for a high school pottery class.
Categorical Imperative

Harrisburg, PA

#23 Oct 4, 2012
EBT Blackman wrote:
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Nice... for a high school pottery class.
Excerpt:

Pottery’s potency lies in its resolution of dual realities. There is the obvious sphere of physical use: the realms of filling, pouring, carrying, or perhaps brewing.

Then there is the sphere of abstract use: the metaphorical realms of sustenance offerings, status delineators, emotional containers, or vital funerary accoutrements within a given cosmology. For pottery this duality of abstract and physical use confers both irreplaceability—no other medium can take its place—and indivisibility—the utilitarian, spiritual, and aesthetic are forever intertwined.

Yet pottery’s essential utilitarian character can cloak the abstract essence through which these African vessels serve the soul. In Western cultures that have separated art from daily life, the seam of this duality is prone to being ripped apart.

There are art historians whose perceptions are limited to pots as “merely physical containers,” anthropologists who treat pottery solely as data reflecting cultural interchange, even art critics who assess strictly in terms of purified formal aesthetic qualities such as color, volume or patterning. As in the ancient Indian parable,

“The Blind Men and the Elephant,” all are exploring only one isolated aspect of a complex creation.
http://www.warrenfrederick.com/articles/afric...
EBT Blackman

Jersey City, NJ

#24 Oct 5, 2012
Categorical Imperative wrote:
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Excerpt:
Pottery’s potency lies in its resolution of dual realities. There is the obvious sphere of physical use: the realms of filling, pouring, carrying, or perhaps brewing.
Then there is the sphere of abstract use: the metaphorical realms of sustenance offerings, status delineators, emotional containers, or vital funerary accoutrements within a given cosmology. For pottery this duality of abstract and physical use confers both irreplaceability—no other medium can take its place—and indivisibility—the utilitarian, spiritual, and aesthetic are forever intertwined.
Yet pottery’s essential utilitarian character can cloak the abstract essence through which these African vessels serve the soul. In Western cultures that have separated art from daily life, the seam of this duality is prone to being ripped apart.
There are art historians whose perceptions are limited to pots as “merely physical containers,” anthropologists who treat pottery solely as data reflecting cultural interchange, even art critics who assess strictly in terms of purified formal aesthetic qualities such as color, volume or patterning. As in the ancient Indian parable,
“The Blind Men and the Elephant,” all are exploring only one isolated aspect of a complex creation.
http://www.warrenfrederick.com/articles/afric...
I know. And blacks used to be able to fly, too.
http://www.amazon.com/The-People-Could-Fly-Il...
An Inquiring Mind

Harrisburg, PA

#25 Oct 5, 2012
EBT Blackman wrote:
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I know. And blacks used to be able to fly, too.
http://www.amazon.com/The-People-Could-Fly-Il...
You never heard of fantasy as aliterary genre?

Book Description

Release Date: November 9, 2004 | Grade Level: K and up | Series: New York Times Best Illustrated Books (Awards)
“THE PEOPLE COULD FLY,” the title story in Virginia Hamilton’s prize-winning American Black folktale collection, is a fantasy tale of the slaves who possessed the ancient magic words that enabled them to literally fly away to freedom. 4

And it is a moving tale of those who did not have the opportunity to “fly” away, who remained slaves with only their imaginations to set them free as they told and retold this tale.

Leo and Diane Dillon have created powerful new illustrations in full color for every page of this picture book presentation of Virginia Hamilton’s most beloved tale. The author’s original historical note as well as her previously unpublished notes are included.

Awards for The People Could Fly collection:
An Inquiring Mind

Harrisburg, PA

#26 Oct 5, 2012
You never heard of fantasy as a literary genre?
EBT Blackman

Jersey City, NJ

#27 Oct 5, 2012
An Inquiring Mind wrote:
You never heard of fantasy as a literary genre?
It's only fantasy if no one believes it really happened.
Many blacks hold incredulous beliefs about their past such as bases on the moon and space ships that can...well, you watch...
Categorical Imperative

Harrisburg, PA

#28 Oct 5, 2012
EBT Blackman wrote:
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It's only fantasy if no one believes it really happened.
Many blacks hold incredulous beliefs about their past such as bases on the moon and space ships that can...well, you watch...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =dtiVP-E2eFIXX
But you provided that book as an example which it clearly isn't.

As to blacks being more predisposed to believe in fantastical things than whites are, it's only an opinion unless you can provide objective statistical data from a reliable source to back up that claim. Can you?

I mean, I have seen whites claiming fantastic things about Atlantis, Nordic Extraterrestrial Aliens. Then we have the Norse, Roman and Greek mythologies which whites considered factual for centuries. Right?
EBT Blackman

Jersey City, NJ

#31 Oct 5, 2012
Categorical Imperative wrote:
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As to blacks being more predisposed to believe in fantastical things than whites are, it's only an opinion unless you can provide objective statistical data from a reliable source to back up that claim. Can you?
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