Is COLLEGE a scam or Necessary
Liefberm

Miami, FL

#107 Mar 20, 2013
AAMech wrote:
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I'm just a product of a good education. Aren't you? For the sake of the younger blacks reading this. How far a black person can go in life. Choices. Options. Ways to avoid the college scams you speak of. To study hard to get a scholarship. Military option.
You copied and past many times about college education being a money scam. I don't want to copy and paste. I just want to tell the younger people reading this who are scared and wondering what to do. So I will tell them about myself. The real deal.
I don't speak profanities. So naturally I don't post that way.
I post the same manner I would speak to someone in person.
You are upset about something. Not my fault.
Too much anger there mister.
Don't get the dating site thing.
You do know he is ghetto don't you?
Sadbutrue

Woodbridge, VA

#108 Mar 21, 2013
Liefberm--AAmech--MACEO wrote:
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You do know he is ghetto don't you?
MACEO

You could have had multiple degrees by now! Your Trifling!

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Sadbutrue

Woodbridge, VA

#109 Mar 21, 2013
Liefberm wrote:
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You do know he is ghetto don't you?
MACEO

Education is never a waste! Until recently, the average college graduate vs HS diploma like yourself the salary different was almost 400k difference!

I have a male friend who charges $350. per hr and people come to him he doesn't have to seek work. If he didn't seek a degree and then go beyond he couldn't command that salary with no questions!

If you get out of a Job your screwed, people don't even look at someone with only a HS diploma not in a down economy! They can get a skilled educated person who has experience and the degrees/certifications!

The reasons why Black males don't get ahead is many don't even get Certifications but want to be promoted! I see the White men, Asian, Africans, Indians doing everything possible to get head and keep thier families in tact! OU F

What are Black males doing?

Chasing WW Puzzy on the job and outside work and end up with nothing or trying to live off some woman

I BET YOU FEEL FOOLISH NOW! LMMAO YAPPING LIKE A WOMAN ON TOPIX AND YOUR ALMOST 60 YEARS OLD!
Sadbutrue

Woodbridge, VA

#110 Mar 21, 2013
Liefberm wrote:
<quoted text>
You do know he is ghetto don't you?
MACEO

http://www.umpqua.edu/gedadult-basic-skills/1...

big difference.....one things get back on track it will matter again!
Sadbutrue

Woodbridge, VA

#111 Mar 21, 2013
Liefberm wrote:
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You do know he is ghetto don't you?
MACEO

Its also the reason why 50% of Black males are unemployed and will Black women excel because they went to college!

“Vote Republican”

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Since: Aug 08

Wyandanch, NY

#112 Mar 21, 2013
AAMech wrote:
<quoted text>
I'm just a product of a good education. Aren't you? For the sake of the younger blacks reading this. How far a black person can go in life. Choices. Options. Ways to avoid the college scams you speak of. To study hard to get a scholarship. Military option.
You copied and past many times about college education being a money scam. I don't want to copy and paste. I just want to tell the younger people reading this who are scared and wondering what to do. So I will tell them about myself. The real deal.
I don't speak profanities. So naturally I don't post that way.
I post the same manner I would speak to someone in person.
You are upset about something. Not my fault.
Too much anger there mister.
Don't get the dating site thing.
Well said bro!
Cap Black

Huntsville, AL

#113 Mar 21, 2013
No wonder syracuse loves the good ole boy system,he's republican..
Roofis wit da Gold Toofis

United States

#114 Mar 21, 2013
No wonder black crap loves being ghetto, he's a democrat.. Das TERBUHL

“Vote Republican”

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Since: Aug 08

Wyandanch, NY

#115 Mar 21, 2013
Cap Black wrote:
No wonder syracuse loves the good ole boy system,he's republican..
No, I vote Republican, but I am a conservative. And, I benefitted from the network that you choose to deny has any benefits. I have asked you on more than one occassion. Do you have an alternative? Knowing the plight of the black community, how could you say that education is not the appropriate choice? What would you have us do?
Cap Black

Huntsville, AL

#118 Mar 21, 2013
opix wont let me post the below link:

"The piggies feeding at the trough have contaminated each other with corruption through lobbying, feeding from easy government money, and laying in bed with the bankers. As soon as they realize they are sick they will simply lay down and die, like swine in a muddy lot.

Just to size up the herd here is a blurb from Wikipedia: The United States has a total of 4,495 Title IV-eligible, degree-granting institutions: 2,774 4-year institutions and 1,721 2-year institutions, an average of more than 115 per state. As of 2010, the US had 20.3 million students in higher education, roughly 5.7% of the total population. About 14.6 million of these students were enrolled full-time.
The Feds will try to prop up these colleges in "too big to fail" fashion. Once prospective students figure the scam out and develop some alternatives there will be nothing to prop up these schools except the government.

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#119 Mar 21, 2013
Over the years. My mind has changed about College. People act as if College is the end all be all way to success in America. It isn't. Most people Graduate from College uneducated, unemployable, and in debt.

Not everyone needs to go to college. Some people would be better off going to Trades Schools and getting a job.

If you don't know what you want to major in and you want to go to school. I suggest Community College to get your pre-requisites down. Then transfer to a 4 year University. When you know what you want to do and what the job prospects are when you graduate.

I believe the NAACP and other institutions would do better pushing Trade schools as an option for Black kids not interested in going to College.

“Vote Republican”

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Since: Aug 08

Wyandanch, NY

#120 Mar 21, 2013
Cap Black wrote:
opix wont let me post the below link:
"The piggies feeding at the trough have contaminated each other with corruption through lobbying, feeding from easy government money, and laying in bed with the bankers. As soon as they realize they are sick they will simply lay down and die, like swine in a muddy lot.
Just to size up the herd here is a blurb from Wikipedia: The United States has a total of 4,495 Title IV-eligible, degree-granting institutions: 2,774 4-year institutions and 1,721 2-year institutions, an average of more than 115 per state. As of 2010, the US had 20.3 million students in higher education, roughly 5.7% of the total population. About 14.6 million of these students were enrolled full-time.
The Feds will try to prop up these colleges in "too big to fail" fashion. Once prospective students figure the scam out and develop some alternatives there will be nothing to prop up these schools except the government.
Can you tell us a little about your demography?

Employment, children, marrital status, high degrees earned, field of study, GPA, graduate exam scores, annual income, donations made, volunteer time (coaching under priv. young, feeding the homeless), church, religious beliefs, etc...
Roofis wit da Gold Toofis

Lakeland, FL

#121 Mar 21, 2013
MumRa wrote:
Over the years. My mind has changed about College. People act as if College is the end all be all way to success in America. It isn't. Most people Graduate from College uneducated, unemployable, and in debt.
Not everyone needs to go to college. Some people would be better off going to Trades Schools and getting a job.
If you don't know what you want to major in and you want to go to school. I suggest Community College to get your pre-requisites down. Then transfer to a 4 year University. When you know what you want to do and what the job prospects are when you graduate.
I believe the NAACP and other institutions would do better pushing Trade schools as an option for Black kids not interested in going to College.
Nothing wrong with that plan. Great post!

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#122 Mar 21, 2013
Roofis wit da Gold Toofis wrote:
<quoted text> Nothing wrong with that plan. Great post!
There are right now 500k people working in customer service with a 4 year degree. There are 5000 people working as Janitors with a PHd. That is a waste of money and time.

http://gizmodo.com/5671062/there-are-5000-jan...

I believe people that go to the Army. Get on the job training and money for school are better off than most of today's college graduates.

“Vote Republican”

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Since: Aug 08

Wyandanch, NY

#123 Mar 21, 2013
MumRa wrote:
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There are right now 500k people working in customer service with a 4 year degree. There are 5000 people working as Janitors with a PHd. That is a waste of money and time.
http://gizmodo.com/5671062/there-are-5000-jan...
I believe people that go to the Army. Get on the job training and money for school are better off than most of today's college graduates.
Can you prode measurable proof to support your claims? Ihave a BA in muscis but work for a very large bank. I am not complaining.
Roofis wit da Gold Toofis

Lakeland, FL

#124 Mar 21, 2013
MumRa wrote:
<quoted text>
There are right now 500k people working in customer service with a 4 year degree. There are 5000 people working as Janitors with a PHd. That is a waste of money and time.
http://gizmodo.com/5671062/theyre-are-5000-ja...
I believe people that go to the Army. Get on the job training and money for school are better off than most of today's college graduates.
Nothing wrong with trade schools. I am also a supporter of the military route(not like I used to be though). Is there some sort of stigma attached to trade schools in the AA community? You rarely see a black plumber, electrician etc.

“Vote Republican”

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Wyandanch, NY

#125 Mar 21, 2013
Roofis wit da Gold Toofis wrote:
<quoted text> Nothing wrong with trade schools. I am also a supporter of the military route(not like I used to be though). Is there some sort of stigma attached to trade schools in the AA community? You rarely see a black plumber, electrician etc.
The problem with choosing a trade and being from the AA community is the lack of mentoring. The trades you mention are normally father/son type relationships. 80% of AA men do not have a father at home. And, in some cases when they do, he is more of a boy than a man. This is really so sad.

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#126 Mar 21, 2013
Dental Tech Trade School I went to was a scam.
Roofis wit da Gold Toofis

Lakeland, FL

#127 Mar 21, 2013
I Hate Syracuse wrote:
<quoted text>The problem with choosing a trade and being from the AA community is the lack of mentoring. The trades you mention are normally father/son type relationships. 80% of AA men do not have a father at home. And, in some cases when they do, he is more of a boy than a man. This is really so sad.
Yes, they can be father/son occupations but that was a few examples. I was a CO for 27 years and have been in the Bail business for 10 so I know full well about the AA family disconnect. I am an ex Democrat/Liberal now Independent/Conservative and now see what a number the Godless democratic party have done to AA's. A travesty actually.

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#128 Mar 21, 2013
I Hate Syracuse wrote:
<quoted text>Can you prode measurable proof to support your claims? Ihave a BA in muscis but work for a very large bank. I am not complaining.
"40% of college graduates will settle for a job that doesn't require a degree, according to a study done by the Center for Labor Market Studies at Northeastern University."

http://www.mlive.com/jobs/index.ssf/2011/05/4...

So while are lucky to have a job. You like many are working in a field that you didn't get a degree in. You are also working at a job that you could have gotten out of High School. Why rack of tens of thousands of dollars in debt? So you can have fun going to parties?

Unless you know exactly what field you want to study, and the job prospects of that field. You would have been better off doing something else. Healthcare, Lawyers, Engineers, and some social fields. You need to go to school and obtain an higher degree. Most other professions. You probably would have been better off going to community college.

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