King's legacy still cause of debate

King's legacy still cause of debate

There are 1090 comments on the USA Today story from Jan 19, 2014, titled King's legacy still cause of debate. In it, USA Today reports that:

It is a large legacy that looms over the past five decades, from the prophetic "I Have a Dream" speech delivered during the March on Washington to his last campaign taking a stand for underpaid black sanitation workers in Memphis, the city where he was slain.

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#568 Feb 1, 2014
Abdurratln wrote:
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Typical liberalism. Homosexuals have rights to "gay parades". Racist white workers have rights to form unions and go on strike. But Christian or Muslim preachers do not have the right to preach family values and moral integrity.
Get lost, nitwit.
This reply of yours to post #557 is irrelevant, a red herring. For there I was replying to your fabricated charge that I'd gotten you expelled from some other groups. My reply is that this is paranoid nonsense, and that if anything you probably got yourself kicked out.
Also, I am WAY left of liberal. Liberals think that they can obtain social justice within the limits of capitalism by means of certain liberal reforms (e.g. those of FDR or LBJ).
I know that a radically different society is required for that; and this requires a radical transcendence of capitalism itself.
As for your obsessions with homosexuality I instruct you to return to your closet and shut the door. Your pink slip and panties are showing.
As for Christian and Muslim preacher extolling "traditional" family values, they may do so as long as they do not impose such values on others. And as far as moral integrity is concerned---Christian and Muslim fundamentalists, who are often RACIST to the bone--have no monopoly on integrity. And neither do you.

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#569 Feb 1, 2014
Dr. KIng favored DEMOCRATIC SOCIALISM, and SAID so. He was opposed to militarism, and said so. He was in favor of AFFRIMATIVE ACTION (on grounds of race and class) and SAID so.
Dr. KIng stayed clear of membership in EITHER corporate party, but OPPOSED Barry Goldwater who (like Ron and Rand Paul) were opposed to the Civil Rights Act of 1964.
Dr. KIng was opposed to BOTH capitalism and Communism--and SAID so.
In short, there's not a lot of excuses for any LITERATE person to be so confused about KIng.
Since he TELLS you what he thinks of both parties, there's no excuse for anyone claiming that King was a Republican, let alone a conservative Republican. Since he tells us what the thinks of Marxist Leninist Communism, there's no excuse for claiming that he was a Communist.
But King was an intellectual left wing leader of the Black Freedom MOvement, which was a center/left Movement.
To claim otherwise is to reveal either one's IGNORANCE or DISHONESTY.

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#570 Feb 1, 2014
Savant wrote:
<quoted text> Surveys of Tea Party folk have shown a higher animosity toward Blacks and Latinos than one finds in either the Democratic Party or even the general run of the Republican Party. White militia men have been noticed as a welcome part of Tea Party gatherings.
Please cite these junk science surveys.

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#571 Feb 1, 2014
Savant wrote:
<quoted text> The Grand Dragon of the kkk supported Ronald Reagan, stating that his platform couldn't have been any better unless it were written by the Klan itself.
And if you were not politically illiterate and ignorant of history you'd know that the Klan, like the Nazis, despise liberals almost as much as Communists.
The Civil Rights Movement was liberal and even (in part) left-of- liberal. I don't recall that it got much support from the KKK. Ask any veteran of the Movement in the South what the reaction of the protofascist KKK was.
Only STUPID people think of the KKK or Nazis as liberals or leftists. So it doesn't surprise me that you do.
Another liberal lie.

The new black panthers and lewis farrakhan's nation of islam support barock though.

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#572 Feb 1, 2014
Abdurratln wrote:
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Typical liberalism. Homosexuals have rights to "gay parades". Racist white workers have rights to form unions and go on strike. But Christian or Muslim preachers do not have the right to preach family values and moral integrity.
Get lost, nitwit.
sure they do. why don't you know even the most basic facts about your own nation? do you enjoy being such a crappy citizen.(if you really are one..)
KIP

San Francisco, CA

#574 Feb 1, 2014
Roofis wit da Gold Toofis wrote:
<quoted text> The Tea Party: Traditional family values. Less Government intrusion. FAIR taxes. Love of Country. Military heros. Law abiding. GOD or higher power believing. NOT racist like the democtats. Don't want homosexuality exposed to children(like democraps). Not hypocritical like libTARDS. etc. Yepper, they sure seem like a threat to me(sarcasm). Ishhy is an idiot. Don't waste too much time with this commie prick. imho
The Tea Party:

To hell with values. They could care less about any God, because they worship guns. No, they are NOT patriotic, because when they don't get their way they cry, threaten to secede, and pass blame. In public they like to tall everyone how law-abiding they are, but in reality they cheat on taxes. Yes, they are very hypocritical, and BOY can those people lie. They come howling over people being communists of some sort, but seem to praise Eric Snowden for giving Russia and China American information from the NSA. At one time Snowden would have been considered a traitor, but the Tea Baggers hate Obama so much that they want to change the definition of what a traitor is when it comes to Snowden.

Funny people those right leaning Tea Party clown.

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#575 Feb 1, 2014
Pere du Champ wrote:
The Tea Party includes the poorer-educated...
Wrong.

http://tinyurl.com/olx5qn9

Much to the chagrin of that Yale researcher, self-described Tea Party members are more educated more scientifically literate than the average public.

You should learn from that Yale researcher. I give him kudos for publishing these findings right away even though he didn't like them. In that he is better than that Harvard researcher Robert Putnam who hid for a decade the results of his research that "diversity" had massively negative consequences for society.

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#576 Feb 1, 2014
sONE wrote:
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I am very much for less government intrusion and fair taxes.
I have wondered what their stance is on job outsourcing, immigration in general-including "amnesty" for illegals, and sending troops for "preemptive" type wars.
I can't find a specific platform for their views and the politicians they endorse seem to vary quite a bit on certain political stances.
Here's a good, brief article about the Tea Party:

http://tinyurl.com/nge7295

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#578 Feb 2, 2014
mjjcpa wrote:
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Another liberal lie.
The new black panthers and lewis farrakhan's nation of islam support barock though.
Too bad I HEARD Louis Farrahkan DENOUNCE Barack Obama and have seen Obama denounced in the FINAL CALL peddled by a NOI student.
Sorry, Ms. Grundy. When it comes to the politics of Black America I am the teacher and you are my mentally challenged student.
Not surprising though. Farrakhan is a Black reactionary just like you and your Tea Party are mainly white reactionaries.

Obama is actually centrist liberal at best, and just barely even "liberal." But you rightwingers are so far outside the sphere of sanity than you'd be denouncing Ronald Reagan as a liberal or even a Commie if he was still around.

And I KNOW what the Right thought of Dr. King when he was still around.

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#582 Feb 2, 2014
Pere du Champ wrote:
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Scared of the truth, boy?
Tea Party = racist fascists
Just your kind of people.
And "Mjjcpa" wants to lecture ME on Dr. King. LOL! LOL! LOL!
PATRIOT DVC MOLON LABE

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#584 Feb 2, 2014
Pere du Champ wrote:
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Oh yeah, he's got a lot of information about Dr. King.
Unfortunately it all came out of Hillsboro WV.
Youll are hilarious talking all that shit about "researching" "Doctor" King hahaha. The FBI researched the filthy lying whoremonger while he was alive. Why not ask for some copies of their RESEARCH? And as far as you numbskulls talking about him being a Doctor why not INVESTIGATE which high school he graduated from before those negroe cooncage colleges give him the false titles of Reverand and Doctor. Maybe you can also include how he was born Michael King and how his father took him to Nazi Germany to meet Hitler in 1939 and have his name changed. Now that would be interesting!!!!!!!!!! And do the public a favor and stop asking topix to erase the TRUTH about your so called "Doctor!"

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#585 Feb 2, 2014
Pere du Champ wrote:
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Scared of the truth, boy?
Tea Party = racist fascists
Just your kind of people.
Liberals are the fascists today.

You fill prisons with generational welfare recipients. You have to pass numerous laws, because dumbocrat constituents need a law to buy healthcare.

barock is using the IRS to target his political enemies.

barock is chilling the media.

You obviously don't know what the word fascist means. The Nazi's NZ's were National Socialists. We should call you idiots, the oligarchical socialists or the oligozzies.

Enviro terrorists freeze old ladies and kids in winter.

Corrupt teacher unions have made our schools half as effective and twice as expensive as other countries.

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#586 Feb 2, 2014
Walter Henrickson wrote:
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Wrong.
http://tinyurl.com/olx5qn9
Much to the chagrin of that Yale researcher, self-described Tea Party members are more educated more scientifically literate than the average public.
You should learn from that Yale researcher. I give him kudos for publishing these findings right away even though he didn't like them. In that he is better than that Harvard researcher Robert Putnam who hid for a decade the results of his research that "diversity" had massively negative consequences for society.
Career corruptocrats from both parties are petrified of the TEA party. This is why they need to demonize it.

It is rare that you find honesty in American academia. It's been infucted by liberals.

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#587 Feb 2, 2014
mjjcpa wrote:
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Liberals are the fascists today.
You fill prisons with generational welfare recipients. You have to pass numerous laws, because dumbocrat constituents need a law to buy healthcare.
barock is using the IRS to target his political enemies.
barock is chilling the media.
You obviously don't know what the word fascist means. The Nazi's NZ's were National Socialists. We should call you idiots, the oligarchical socialists or the oligozzies.
Enviro terrorists freeze old ladies and kids in winter.
Corrupt teacher unions have made our schools half as effective and twice as expensive as other countries.
In reality, the big problem with LIBERALS are that they've been too WEAK to fight the Fascists. That's one reason we REVOLUTIONARIES are needed.
REAL FASCISM regards liberalism as simply a brief step from Communism or socialism. Hitler, Mussolini, KKK and other REAL FASCISTS were very clear in their hatred for liberalism.
But they tended to see Liberalism as a step in the direction of socialism and Communism--and SAID so. Hence there's no intelligent reason for confusion in this matter.
The really INTELLIGENT criticisms of Liberalism have come from the LEFT, not the Right (from which REAL fascism emerges). Similarly the INTELLIGENT criticisms of Obama and the Democratic Party comes from the LEFT, as opposed to the loony paranoid rants of the Right.
The BEST critics of Obama are people like Cornel West, Noam Chomsky and Chris Hedges....or maybe Baltimore writer RB Jones.
The Right is a cesspool of lunacy and delusion. In fact, the AMERICAN right has a poor reputation even among European conservatives.

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#588 Feb 2, 2014
PATRIOT DVC MOLON LABE wrote:
<quoted text> Youll are hilarious talking all that shit about "researching" "Doctor" King hahaha. The FBI researched the filthy lying whoremonger while he was alive. Why not ask for some copies of their RESEARCH? And as far as you numbskulls talking about him being a Doctor why not INVESTIGATE which high school he graduated from before those negroe cooncage colleges give him the false titles of Reverand and Doctor. Maybe you can also include how he was born Michael King and how his father took him to Nazi Germany to meet Hitler in 1939 and have his name changed. Now that would be interesting!!!!!!!!!! And do the public a favor and stop asking topix to erase the TRUTH about your so called "Doctor!"

I've done REAL research on King and made use of ORIGINAL sources as well as works by KIND SCHOLARS.
The FBI was engaged in efforts to suppress the Black Movement, and to disinform and disrupt the community and its efforts to liberate itself.
This was part of the FBI's COINTELPRO program. Why don't you investigate COINTELPRO, you asshole?

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#589 Feb 2, 2014
Savant wrote:
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In reality, the big problem with LIBERALS are that they've been too WEAK to fight the Fascists. That's one reason we REVOLUTIONARIES are needed.
REAL FASCISM regards liberalism as simply a brief step from Communism or socialism. Hitler, Mussolini, KKK and other REAL FASCISTS were very clear in their hatred for liberalism.
But they tended to see Liberalism as a step in the direction of socialism and Communism--and SAID so. Hence there's no intelligent reason for confusion in this matter.
The really INTELLIGENT criticisms of Liberalism have come from the LEFT, not the Right (from which REAL fascism emerges). Similarly the INTELLIGENT criticisms of Obama and the Democratic Party comes from the LEFT, as opposed to the loony paranoid rants of the Right.
The BEST critics of Obama are people like Cornel West, Noam Chomsky and Chris Hedges....or maybe Baltimore writer RB Jones.
The Right is a cesspool of lunacy and delusion. In fact, the AMERICAN right has a poor reputation even among European conservatives.
Liberals are the fascists today.

They are turning America into a cesspit.

Nobody cares what old europe thinks.

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#590 Feb 2, 2014
mjjcpa wrote:
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Liberals are the fascists today.
They are turning America into a cesspit.
Nobody cares what old europe thinks.
You reactionaries have a remarkable capacity for self-delusion, and you think that simply by repeating your absurdities you make those absurdities true.
Fascism is a FAR RIGHT form of totalitarianism...I'm speaking of REAL FASCISM, not the figments of your imagination.
Western Fascism is a European invention. Your not caring is mainly an expression of IGNORANCE.(And if US conservatives didn't care what old Europe thinks why were idiots like Sarah Palin trying to cozy up with Margaret Thatcher, a conservative Brit who thought--correctly--that American conservatives are morons and clowns?)

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#591 Feb 2, 2014
mjjcpa wrote:
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Liberals are the fascists today.
You fill prisons with generational welfare recipients. You have to pass numerous laws, because dumbocrat constituents need a law to buy healthcare.
barock is using the IRS to target his political enemies.
barock is chilling the media.
You obviously don't know what the word fascist means. The Nazi's NZ's were National Socialists. We should call you idiots, the oligarchical socialists or the oligozzies.
Enviro terrorists freeze old ladies and kids in winter.
Corrupt teacher unions have made our schools half as effective and twice as expensive as other countries.
The explosion of the prison population was induced by the war on drugs, inaugurated by your right wing hero, Ronald Reagan.
The "War on Poverty"--which Dr. King rightly described as a skirmish---didn't cause the explosion of incarceration. In fact, poverty dropped by about 50%. I don't know whether Johnson's war on poverty---which was a skirmish compared to his criminal war in Vietnam--was primarily the cause of the drop in poverty at that time. But it did not increase poverty, and definitely did not explosively grow the prison population.
The Right wing war on drugs combined with judicial and police racism is responsible for the racist prison industrial complex.
For the crimes these reactionaries have committed against the Black community they should be subject to a Nuremburg type trial. And maybe you right wing apologists should be made to account for yourselves as well.

Death to plutocracy and racism. Death to social reaction.

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#597 Feb 2, 2014
To resume the victories of the 1960s, to take up once more the legacy of Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr., we must return to progressive popular insurgency.
The last phase of struggle in which King was involved, a phase that was not completed, is the formation of a Poor Peoples Movement and the fight for economic justice.
We must end the dehumanizing evils of plutocracy and racism, and must not put our faith in either of the two corporate parties.

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#598 Feb 2, 2014
Savant wrote:
<quoted text> You reactionaries have a remarkable capacity for self-delusion, and you think that simply by repeating your absurdities you make those absurdities true.
Fascism is a FAR RIGHT form of totalitarianism...I'm speaking of REAL FASCISM, not the figments of your imagination.
Western Fascism is a European invention. Your not caring is mainly an expression of IGNORANCE.(And if US conservatives didn't care what old Europe thinks why were idiots like Sarah Palin trying to cozy up with Margaret Thatcher, a conservative Brit who thought--correctly--that American conservatives are morons and clowns?)
Thatcher loved conservatives.

Liberals are morons.

barock has to bring his teleprompter everywhere.

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