Barros, here is ur UNDENIABLE TRUTH that MOORS were BLACK!!

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Truth

Atlanta, GA

#1 Sep 27, 2011
THe black moors ruled Europe and were not slaves.

Barros Serrano

North Tazewell, VA

#2 Sep 27, 2011
Nope, that is the same old argument, and it proves nothing.

Images don't tell us who the Moors were.

It is proven that North Africans are predominantly Eurasian. It is also proven that the Moors were predominantly North African (Berbers). It is recorded in images of the invading Moors done by Spaniards that they were overwhelmingly not black.

Tariq himself is described as a light-colored individual.

Y'all are pissing in the wind.
Truth

Atlanta, GA

#3 Sep 27, 2011
so why did the Europeans depict them as so? Are u blind? These statues depicting moors (whom were black) are around Europe? Are u saying diregard what I SEE and believe ur EUROCENTRIC LIES?
Barros Serrano

North Tazewell, VA

#4 Sep 27, 2011
I'm fed up with racists like you, boy. Come call me a liar to my face.

I could find depictions of “Americans” which are black, lots of them. So does that mean most “Americans” are black?

The FACTS, the historical and scientific evidence, PROVE that the majority of Moors were not “black”, the conquerors of Spain were non-black Berbers, and you're full of crap.

I'm not a Eurocentric.“centric” implies racism. You're an Afrocentric, which I call, more accurately, Afronazi.

Know what I do to Nazis, boy?
Truth

Atlanta, GA

#5 Sep 27, 2011
Barros Serrano wrote:
I'm fed up with racists like you, boy. Come call me a liar to my face.
I could find depictions of “Americans” which are black, lots of them. So does that mean most “Americans” are black?
The FACTS, the historical and scientific evidence, PROVE that the majority of Moors were not “black”, the conquerors of Spain were non-black Berbers, and you're full of crap.
I'm not a Eurocentric.“centric” implies racism. You're an Afrocentric, which I call, more accurately, Afronazi.
Know what I do to Nazis, boy?
Ummm, I a female... And EUROPE depicts as them being in a higher social class; not me. A black face is on the Moorish flag for Christ sakes! What the hell is ur problem? Again, I ask, are u telling me to NOT belive what I see? And if SCIENCE says they were white, why won't Europe dismount the statues and rid themselves of the "artifacts" in museuems they've had for hundreds of years?
Truth

Atlanta, GA

#6 Sep 27, 2011
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for you barros :)
Truth

Atlanta, GA

#7 Sep 27, 2011
Barros Serrano wrote:
I'm fed up with racists like you, boy. Come call me a liar to my face.
I could find depictions of “Americans” which are black, lots of them. So does that mean most “Americans” are black?
The FACTS, the historical and scientific evidence, PROVE that the majority of Moors were not “black”, the conquerors of Spain were non-black Berbers, and you're full of crap.
I'm not a Eurocentric.“centric” implies racism. You're an Afrocentric, which I call, more accurately, Afronazi.
Know what I do to Nazis, boy?
I didn't say ALL Moors were black... However the ruling class was. Why can't u get that through ur skull, pea brain?
Ramsan

Paterson, NJ

#8 Sep 28, 2011
Truth wrote:
<quoted text> I didn't say ALL Moors were black... However the ruling class was. Why can't u get that through ur skull, pea brain?
great information, I enjoyed watching these informative references.
Truth

Atlanta, GA

#9 Sep 28, 2011
Ramsan wrote:
<quoted text>great information, I enjoyed watching these informative references.
ur welcome!
Barros Serrano

North Tazewell, VA

#10 Sep 28, 2011
Truth wrote:
<quoted text> Ummm, I a female... And EUROPE depicts as them being in a higher social class; not me. A black face is on the Moorish flag for Christ sakes! What the hell is ur problem? Again, I ask, are u telling me to NOT belive what I see? And if SCIENCE says they were white, why won't Europe dismount the statues and rid themselves of the "artifacts" in museuems they've had for hundreds of years?
SOME Moors were black. Did you ever see me write that none were black?

Look up Alfonso's Book of Games. Shows Moors. Most are not black. Look up Tariq, the leader of the Moors who conquered Spain. Not black.

Look at North Africa today, which is where most Moors came from. Not black. Who's blind here?

The "blackamoor" was a romantic image in Europe. Black Moors fascinated the Europeans, because they were exotic. Hence Shakespeare's Othello, etc.

"Moor" does not mean "black". It comes from the Phoenician word for "westerner". Same word as "Maghreb". It is well proven that North Africans were predominantly Eurasian (not African) for 30,000 years.

Learn real science and history, not Afronazi ideological racism.
Barros Serrano

North Tazewell, VA

#11 Sep 28, 2011
Truth wrote:
<quoted text> I didn't say ALL Moors were black... However the ruling class was. Why can't u get that through ur skull, pea brain?
The ruling class was mostly not black.

It was under almoravide rule that they were.

The rulers in Iberia were mostly Berbers or Arabs. Increasingly, over time, the Arabs usurped power from the Berbers.

“esa hembra es mala”

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#12 Sep 28, 2011
Alfonsos book of games was a fcking joke and he mostly depicted spaniards who became Muslims, they didn't depict Berbers, so try again you blithering id8t.
Barros Serrano wrote:
<quoted text>
SOME Moors were black. Did you ever see me write that none were black?
Look up Alfonso's Book of Games. Shows Moors. Most are not black. Look up Tariq, the leader of the Moors who conquered Spain. Not black.
Look at North Africa today, which is where most Moors came from. Not black. Who's blind here?
The "blackamoor" was a romantic image in Europe. Black Moors fascinated the Europeans, because they were exotic. Hence Shakespeare's Othello, etc.
"Moor" does not mean "black". It comes from the Phoenician word for "westerner". Same word as "Maghreb". It is well proven that North Africans were predominantly Eurasian (not African) for 30,000 years.
Learn real science and history, not Afronazi ideological racism.

“esa hembra es mala”

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#13 Sep 28, 2011
Islam forbade depictions of humans in art and therefore you will not see any in surviving work from Spain and North Africa. Most human depictions were done by Europeans during or after the Islamic rule in Spain. Hence the images from the ceiling of the Alhambra and the Spanish book of Games which again was done by Europeans and describes games from all over the world, not just Spain. Unfortunately some people take these images as literal examples of individuals in Islamic Spain, but no such images

http://www.alhambra-patronato.es/index.php/Th...

“esa hembra es mala”

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#14 Sep 28, 2011
exist.

“esa hembra es mala”

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#15 Sep 28, 2011
The Hall of the Kings was named after the ten enigmatic individuals whose figures are illustrated on the dome above the main bedchamber. For many years the figures were incorrectly thought to depict leading members of the Nasrid dynasty; till the 19th century the chamber was known as the Hall of Justice owing to the fact that the figures were thought to be courtroom judges.

Nevertheless, it is generally understood that the scene is a realistic depiction of an activity that commonly took place there: a meeting of dignitaries in the presence of the Sultan or leading members of the Court.

The figures, whose features depict venerable westerners, are seen seated in traditional fashion and gesturing while having a lively conversation. They are ceremoniously dressed, bearing swords and wearing belts and Nasrid style turbans.

Here is another source Euroclowns try to pass off as Moors..

http://www.funci.org/en/wp-content/uploads/20...

“esa hembra es mala”

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#16 Sep 28, 2011
The book of games is a translation of an Arabic work with illustrations added by Alfonso X. The images are generally of various in the world known to the Muslims. It is not all made up of people in Spain. Only some of them are representations of Spanish muslims and only a few show blacks.

Most of the Muslims in Spain were converted Europeans. Those who invaded and conquered were the minority and they themselves were of various backgrounds. Some were Syrian, others Saracen (from Baghdad) and others from Arabia proper. The rest were primarily Africans from North Africa, the Sahara and parts of West Africa.
Tam

Skelmersdale, UK

#17 Sep 28, 2011
What is this obsession with Moors being Black? Those lazy tea drinking commoners. Do you people really associate with Moors? LMAO! These people are the scum of the earth with no honour whatsoever and always answerable to the Arabs - their lords and masters. Not surprise the Serers treated them like sh-it. A friend of the Arabs is no friend of ours. SMFH!
jimmy

Los Angeles, CA

#18 Oct 1, 2011
Truth wrote:
so why did the Europeans depict them as so? Are u blind? These statues depicting moors (whom were black) are around Europe? Are u saying diregard what I SEE and believe ur EUROCENTRIC LIES?
they are ashamed their past history
Giltedged

London, UK

#20 May 3, 2013
Truth wrote:
<quoted text> Ummm, I a female... And EUROPE depicts as them being in a higher social class; not me. A black face is on the Moorish flag for Christ sakes! What the hell is ur problem? Again, I ask, are u telling me to NOT belive what I see? And if SCIENCE says they were white, why won't Europe dismount the statues and rid themselves of the "artifacts" in museuems they've had for hundreds of years?
"A black face is on the Moorish flag for Christ sakes" What an idiot! What a steaming idiot!! Moors being Muslims are not allowed to depict animals let alone humans!! Black face on a Moorish flag!!! OMG!! What Moorish flag!!!

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