Is racism a mental illness?

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“Think. The big fcuking picture”

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#1 Sep 19, 2011
In my personal opinion, racism is fueled by peer pressure, family construct, social construct, mob mentality and for the most part, sheer willful ignorance.

However, with that being said I also think that there should be some clarification as to the purpose of designating racism as a psychological disorder. While classifying it as such may cause some people to justify their racist ideals under the hood of a medical condition, as long at it stays a recognized social belief and not an actual condition, it may never be "treated" in individuals who do manifest its effects in a pathologic way: i.e. resorting to violence and verbal abuse when they otherwise wouldn't, or even experiencing higher levels of anxiety during situations of interaction with individuals their feelings are directed against.

Consider addiction such as drug abuse or alcoholism: At one time in the medical community these were not classified as medical conditions and many still only regard them as social ills. But in the past several years, researchers have uncovered a biologic component to addiction to go along with the psychosocial symptoms and as a result many people are getting help that is working, who otherwise would not have. The point here was not to allow abuse patients to justify their addictions… but to find ways to help them beat those addictions.

So yes, schizophrenia is a medical condition, but just because no one has shown a biologic foundation or pathologic mechanism for racism does not mean that the medical community should disregard it, failing to see it as something fixable and deteriorating to one's person.

I think that there should be some clarification as to the purpose of designating racism as a psychological disorder. While classifying it as such may cause some people to defend their racist ideals under the hood of a medical condition (which I think is a small sacrifice if it means anyone could be cured of racism), as long at it stays a recognized social belief, and not an actual condition, it may never be "treated" in individuals who do manifest its effects in a pathologic way: i.e. resorting to violence and verbal abuse when they otherwise wouldn't, or even experiencing higher levels of anxiety during situations of interaction with individuals their feelings are directed against.

Consider addiction such as drug abuse or alcoholism: At one time in the medical community these were not classified as medical conditions and many still only regard them as social ills. But in the past several years, researchers have uncovered a biologic component to addiction to go along with the psychosocial symptoms and as a result many people are getting help that is working, who otherwise would not have. The point here was not to allow abuse patients to justify their addictions… but to find ways to help them beat those addictions.

So yes, schizophrenia is a medical condition, but just because no one has shown a biologic foundation or pathologic mechanism for racism does not mean that the medical community should disregard it, failing to see it as something fixable and deteriorating to one's person.
hurricane katrina

United States

#2 Sep 19, 2011
No. racism is a choice. People choose who they want to be racist against. The greater the access to resources, the greater the damage caused by this choice.

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#3 Sep 19, 2011
hurricane katrina wrote:
No. racism is a choice. People choose who they want to be racist against. The greater the access to resources, the greater the damage caused by this choice.
I disagree that it is a choice. I mean, who chooses to hate? Who chooses to allow such a repugnant emotion consume them and guide every social facet of their lives and every decision they make? Learned behavior? Yes, absolutely. Choice? I don't believe so.

APV

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#4 Sep 19, 2011
JimmyTwoTimes wrote:
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I disagree that it is a choice. I mean, who chooses to hate? Who chooses to allow such a repugnant emotion consume them and guide every social facet of their lives and every decision they make? Learned behavior? Yes, absolutely. Choice? I don't believe so.
Insecure people make that choice. You can't justify it as an uncontrollable behavior. People make the conscience decision to hate based on specific criteria. It's not the mentally ill person who rambles to anyone and everyone. A racist choice and action is very deliberate. They are not mentally ill, they are just insecure individuals who have displaced resentment...
Zaius

Micronesia, Federated States of

#5 Sep 19, 2011
Racism is a self preservation instinct. It is also known as realism.

What is a mental illness would be liberalism.

WASHINGTON – Just when liberals thought it was safe to start identifying themselves as such, an acclaimed, veteran psychiatrist is making the case that the ideology motivating them is actually a mental disorder.

"Based on strikingly irrational beliefs and emotions, modern liberals relentlessly undermine the most important principles on which our freedoms were founded," says Dr. Lyle Rossiter, author of the new book, "The Liberal Mind: The Psychological Causes of Political Madness." "Like spoiled, angry children, they rebel against the normal responsibilities of adulthood and demand that a parental government meet their needs from cradle to grave."

While political activists on the other side of the spectrum have made similar observations, Rossiter boasts professional credentials and a life virtually free of activism and links to "the vast right-wing conspiracy."

For more than 35 years he has diagnosed and treated more than 1,500 patients as a board-certified clinical psychiatrist and examined more than 2,700 civil and criminal cases as a board-certified forensic psychiatrist. He received his medical and psychiatric training at the University of Chicago.

Rossiter says the kind of liberalism being displayed by both Barack Obama and his Democratic primary opponent Hillary Clinton can only be understood as a psychological disorder.

"A social scientist who understands human nature will not dismiss the vital roles of free choice, voluntary cooperation and moral integrity – as liberals do," he says. "A political leader who understands human nature will not ignore individual differences in talent, drive, personal appeal and work ethic, and then try to impose economic and social equality on the population – as liberals do. And a legislator who understands human nature will not create an environment of rules which over-regulates and over-taxes the nation's citizens, corrupts their character and reduces them to wards of the state – as liberals do."

Dr. Rossiter says the liberal agenda preys on weakness and feelings of inferiority in the population by:

* creating and reinforcing perceptions of victimization;
* satisfying infantile claims to entitlement, indulgence and compensation;
* augmenting primitive feelings of envy;
* rejecting the sovereignty of the individual, subordinating him to the will of the government.

"The roots of liberalism – and its associated madness – can be clearly identified by understanding how children develop from infancy to adulthood and how distorted development produces the irrational beliefs of the liberal mind," he says. "When the modern liberal mind whines about imaginary victims, rages against imaginary villains and seeks above all else to run the lives of persons competent to run their own lives, the neurosis of the liberal mind becomes painfully obvious."
Zaius

Micronesia, Federated States of

#6 Sep 19, 2011
JimmyTwoTimes wrote:
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I disagree that it is a choice. I mean, who chooses to hate? Who chooses to allow such a repugnant emotion consume them and guide every social facet of their lives and every decision they make? Learned behavior? Yes, absolutely. Choice? I don't believe so.
"Racism" is learned by observing a group of stone age primates that act in the same vile, barbaric way they did when they were found eating each other and crapping on the shores of Africa 600 years ago.
Zaius

Micronesia, Federated States of

#7 Sep 19, 2011
APV wrote:
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Insecure people make that choice. You can't justify it as an uncontrollable behavior. People make the conscience decision to hate based on specific criteria. It's not the mentally ill person who rambles to anyone and everyone. A racist choice and action is very deliberate. They are not mentally ill, they are just insecure individuals who have displaced resentment...
I suppose that would help you sleep better at night if you were a member of a race of a "billion" primitive savages that cannot even be domesticated over the course of 600 years in modern western society, never mind the mess their ancestral homelands are.

A racist is acting no differently than a school of Yellow Tangs, a herd of Zebras or any other form of life on this planet.

Only psychologically damaged people seek out people that are different and try and force their own kind to accept them based on anything but 'merit'.

...thus we have affirmative action losers sucking up valuable resources and destroying city after city after city.

Although I am sure what little of the productive class in Detroit and Chicago will be happy to know they are actually not "mentally ill" for avoiding anywhere blacks infest.

ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha
Zaius

Micronesia, Federated States of

#8 Sep 19, 2011
JimmyTwoTimes wrote:
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I disagree that it is a choice. I mean, who chooses to hate? Who chooses to allow such a repugnant emotion consume them and guide every social facet of their lives and every decision they make? Learned behavior? Yes, absolutely. Choice? I don't believe so.
I choose to hate "most" blacks because they are primitive savages that are no different than locusts or rabbits or any other pest.

They have consumed my once proud nation of Rhodesia and transformed it into Zimbabwe.

Given the chance they would do the same thing to The United States and the world, just as they have done to Detroit, Gary, Atlanta, Chicago, Philly, DC, etc, etc.

Learned behaviour? You betcha. I learned it by watching them.
The truth

Sydney, Australia

#9 Sep 19, 2011
Yes it is. Its been around for centuries that is why people think it is normal.
NO JIMMY

United States

#10 Sep 19, 2011
No Jimmy, racism is about maintaining power and control. It is the ignorant and bottom feeders that use racial epithets.

White people will see a well to do bw/bw and won't do anything but, when they get to a telephone, 911 is on the line.

911 isn't the only way. White people will call your employer and bam, you've got a pink slip and have no idea why.
Zaius

Micronesia, Federated States of

#11 Sep 19, 2011
NO JIMMY wrote:
No Jimmy, racism is about maintaining power and control. It is the ignorant and bottom feeders that use racial epithets.
White people will see a well to do bw/bw and won't do anything but, when they get to a telephone, 911 is on the line.
911 isn't the only way. White people will call your employer and bam, you've got a pink slip and have no idea why.
Nonsense. Racism is about self preservation and using common sense.

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#12 Sep 19, 2011
People, what about the benefits of classifying racism as a mental illness? It could be a good thing and will allow us more avenues to explore the root causes of this ignorance.

I disagree that every racist makes a conscious decision to hate. There are so much people out there who can't even give a legitimate reason as to why they hate a certain ethnic group. They are literally just repeating things they've learned and been told.

I believe that if everyone who was racist was forced to spend a day with the target of their hatred, they would see there ignorance for what it really is. Nothing but xenophobic, unfounded and blind hatred.

Most racists don't even have any basis or foundation through their own experience to hate the way they do. They just hate because that's what they've been taught by their equally ignorant parents.
The truth

Sydney, Australia

#13 Sep 19, 2011
NO JIMMY wrote:
No Jimmy, racism is about maintaining power and control. It is the ignorant and bottom feeders that use racial epithets.
White people will see a well to do bw/bw and won't do anything but, when they get to a telephone, 911 is on the line.
911 isn't the only way. White people will call your employer and bam, you've got a pink slip and have no idea why.
> maintaining power & control < Two traits that sadistic or serial killers have....So yeah it would be a mental illness.
Zaius

Micronesia, Federated States of

#14 Sep 19, 2011
The truth wrote:
Yes it is. Its been around for centuries that is why people think it is normal.
It is normal because it is common sense to be wary of violent savages that destroy all in their path.

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#15 Sep 19, 2011
APV wrote:
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Insecure people make that choice. You can't justify it as an uncontrollable behavior. People make the conscience decision to hate based on specific criteria. It's not the mentally ill person who rambles to anyone and everyone. A racist choice and action is very deliberate. They are not mentally ill, they are just insecure individuals who have displaced resentment...
Just so you know, not everyone who is mentally ill rambles and talks to themselves. That is just one type of mental illness known as schizophrenia. There are people out there who are mentally ill and you would NEVER know it.

What about the narcissists, or the sociopaths? Those are some of the most intelligent and cunning people. I'm not flaming your post or anything, I'm just saying that when the term "mentally ill" comes up, people have a tendency to automatically conjure up images of mumbling schizos. That is not necessarily the case.

There is a wide spectrum of mental illnesses in this world and the type that makes people talk to themselves is just one of many.
The truth

Sydney, Australia

#16 Sep 19, 2011
JimmyTwoTimes wrote:
People, what about the benefits of classifying racism as a mental illness? It could be a good thing and will allow us more avenues to explore the root causes of this ignorance.
I disagree that every racist makes a conscious decision to hate. There are so much people out there who can't even give a legitimate reason as to why they hate a certain ethnic group. They are literally just repeating things they've learned and been told.
I believe that if everyone who was racist was forced to spend a day with the target of their hatred, they would see there ignorance for what it really is. Nothing but xenophobic, unfounded and blind hatred.
Most racists don't even have any basis or foundation through their own experience to hate the way they do. They just hate because that's what they've been taught by their equally ignorant parents.
Its taught so therefore it is in built or ingrained in their psyche. Hence the reason why racists with an ego problem & violent behaviour problems should be checked.
The truth

Sydney, Australia

#17 Sep 19, 2011
Zaius wrote:
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It is normal because it is common sense to be wary of violent savages that destroy all in their path.
Says the racist who sees bad in everything to justify his racism.
NO JIMMY

United States

#18 Sep 19, 2011
Zaius wrote:
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Nonsense. Racism is about self preservation and using common sense.
Zaius, you're a dumbfk.

WTF do you think maintaining power and control is about, "SELF PRESERVATION"!

GEEZ,

If I didn't know any better, I'd think white people sent all the white idiots to AFAM.
Satan

Sand Lake, MI

#19 Sep 19, 2011
Brilliant Post Jimmy.

Personally I believe Racism rests on several factors.
So I shall first start with what causes it:

1. Man descends from not just one but from several hominid species that constantly warred and killed each other.

2. As such, it is not just a behavioral aspect or a culturally taught norm; but a genetic aspect.

Very few if any truly rise above it. Many people claim they are not racist; but that in itself is an utterly ludicrous statement. The correct phrase would be that people are racist to varying degrees.

It takes immense levels of intellect coupled with higher levels of spiritual awareness to truly rise above concepts like Racism. Through Self-Realization, Self-Actualization and the ability through deep states of meditation/awareness you come to realize that All things are not just connected but interconnected as well.

The only truly permanent cure for Racism besides the highly evolved mental states of clarity is simple LOVE.
The truth

Sydney, Australia

#20 Sep 19, 2011
JimmyTwoTimes wrote:
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Just so you know, not everyone who is mentally ill rambles and talks to themselves. That is just one type of mental illness known as schizophrenia. There are people out there who are mentally ill and you would NEVER know it.
What about the narcissists, or the sociopaths? Those are some of the most intelligent and cunning people. I'm not flaming your post or anything, I'm just saying that when the term "mentally ill" comes up, people have a tendency to automatically conjure up images of mumbling schizos. That is not necessarily the case.
There is a wide spectrum of mental illnesses in this world and the type that makes people talk to themselves is just one of many.
This is true.

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