Planet of the Apes
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Since: Apr 14

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#1 May 25, 2014
I'm *really* not trying to sound racist. I'm just stating facts. If I'm wrong, please tell me I'm wrong. I am making a point with all this that is related to the topic I presented, so please be patient and stay with me. The posts will be long, but I believe you will find them worth reading.

Whenever Caucasians have congregated, powerful nations have been made. Examples: The Roman Empire, The British Empire, The French Empire, The United States of America, The Confederate States of America, Nazi-Germany, and The Soviet Union.

Whenever Blacks have congregated, ghettos and primitive, backwoods third-world countries have been formed.(I know how this must read, but again, if I am wrong, please tell me so and offer proof please. By the way - I know some believe at a time, blacks had great nations, but obviously they weren't that great because they lost them and they don't have any great nations today. Again, a point is being made here, so stay with me please.)

According to the United Nations human development report, countries such as Norway, Iceland, Australia, Canada, Sweden, Switzerland, Belgium, Japan, the Netherlands, Denmark and the United Kingdom are among the the healthiest societies on earth , as indicated by measures of life expectancy, adult literacy, per capita income, educational attainment, gender equality, homicide rate and infant mortality.

The majority of the people who live in those countries (with the exception of Japan) are white.

The United States of America is one of the most diverse societies on Earth. We are also uniquely beleaguered by high rates of homicide, abortion, teen pregnancy, STD infection and infant mortality.

According to the F.B.I., whites in the U.S.A. will be the minority one day. We also live in a country where many black people think they can do and say anything they desire, they can always have white people to blame for their actions, and there will be plenty of white people to support them.

I often generally fear deep in the future when whites become the minority, we're going to be expected to become slaves to "make up" for slavery. It won't happen overnight of course, but the brain-washing process in the U.S.A. began a long time ago with the never-ending promotion of white guilt in films, books, and schools. The country is in a way trying to make us into mindless animals who do nothing but obey.

There are groups of white people out there today who go around chained up wearing "so sorry" shirts. I think larger groups of whites who will be interested in doing that too are on the way. At one point, blacks might expect more then seeing white people chained up for a little while. It may start off with being a "slave for a day" to a black person, and then continue to go beyond that in the future.

(What I don't get is - If a black person struggles at sports, he's encouraged to keep trying, but if he struggles at school or at a job, he is told it's white people's fault.)

The point of this thread is coming in the next post.

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#2 May 25, 2014
In "Planet of the Apes" where Apes rules over humans, they live in a society that has reverted back to living in a way that humans in earlier time periods once lived. i.e. There is no electricity, among other things because most of the apes clearly aren't smart enough to handle those things or figure out how to make tech-related items. The few smart apes that do keep that a secret because they know by keeping stuff like that away gives them more power.

Since areas that are mostly inhabited by blacks typically are very primitive, I often wonder if the makers of the "Planet of the Apes" were saying something - That not only will whites become the minority, not only will whites become mindless animals, and not only will whites become enslaved, but instead of going forward as time goes by, we will revert back to the old days if blacks become rulers of the planet since blacks know little about science, and there is proof in that because there are very few black scientists.

Some believe the Jew is responsible for all of this. That he desires to destroy the white race and he is using blacks to do that.

In the "Planet of the Apes" films, the character Dr. Zaius and the orangutans are "The Jews" since they know the truth. They are also the brightest colors of all the Apes. Much like how Jews look white, but they do not truly consider themselves to be Anglo-Saxen.

The Gorillas are the racist blacks. i.e. The Black Hebrew Israelites, The New Black Panther Party, black gangs, etc. The Gorillas think they are so smart, yet they do not realize they are being manipulated by Dr. Zaius and the orangutans, much like how the Jews manipulate Blacks.

The Chimpanzees are like your conservative blacks. They are sympathetic to humans and long for peace, much like how conservative blacks wish to make peace with whites and let go of the past.

The Mutants - They are The Ku Klux Klan. The American Nazi Party. They would rather destroy the world then live in a world run by Apes. They also use mind control to punish others much like how some say Nazis used bizarre torture methods in their hay day. They are also the reason why the Apes became so violent in the first place because in "Conquest of the Planet of the Apes", the men who would later become mutants, enslaved and tortured apes, which lead to the Apes revolting and in time, taking over the world and enslaving humans.

(It is also worth noting that black racists often calls whites "mutants". So it's interesting how in the Apes films where many 1960's and early 1970's political and social parables are presented in the film, there are in fact mutants who oppose the Apes - Which is something white racists often call blacks.)

The Humans - Mindless animals, much like how some what white-Americans are slowly turning into.

I often wonder if the makers of the Apes films were either associated with the illuminati, or members themselves. They knew what the Jew has been planning, and they figured, it could make for a great movie, so why not make some money in the mean time?

Clearly they couldn't use blacks as the oppressors without causing controversy, so they replaced blacks with Apes since blacks resemble apes. I'm also sure (if this theory is correct.) that the makers of the film most likely knew the first people to live on earth millions of years ago were Apes who in time evolved into blacks, and that blacks are the missing link. So they figured using humanoid talking, intelligent apes would be the ideal creatures to use in their film.

People now for decades have made comments like mine in regards of the Apes films and the makers of the Apes movies have always denied that there is some deep meaning behind their stories. Who knows for sure.

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#3 May 25, 2014
FYI - I started this topic last month, but was unable to bump it, which is why I made a new thread. Here are the comments I posted on that thread -

"The original "Planet of the Apes" series was full of political and social parables that mirrored or responded to the events that were going on in the 1960's and 1970's.

In recent years, I've read black supremacists call white people "mutants" and for most of my life, I've heard white supremacists call black people "apes". Well, in "Beneath the Planet of the Apes" and "Battle for the Planet of the Apes", there are conflicts between the ape characters and the mutant characters, and I often wonder if the makers of the pictures were essentially responding to racial conflicts between European-Americans and African-Americans."

"I know most European-Americans don't consider themselves mutants. That's what some Black Hebrew Israelites call us, much like how some members of the Ku Klux Klan like to call black people "apes".

Being a big Planet of the Apes fan, I just thought that was an interesting connection since in two of those films apes and mutants feud with one another."

This is a great book that discusses in detail the parables in the "Planet of the Apes" films -

http://www.amazon.com/Planet-Apes-American-My...
Cigar Face 21

Riverview, FL

#4 May 25, 2014
Another impotent jealous bi whiteboy obsessing over black nuts again. Go to the gay forum you freak.
ugly monkeys

Ankeny, IA

#5 May 25, 2014
Cigar Face 21 wrote:
Another impotent jealous bi whiteboy obsessing over black nuts again. Go to the gay forum you freak.
lol at impotent. If I am not mistaken, bm suffer ed at the very highest rates.
ShiningElectron

Denver, CO

#6 May 25, 2014
Cigar Face 21 wrote:
Another impotent jealous bi whiteboy obsessing over black nuts again. Go to the gay forum you freak.
You've just proven his point. He's talking about societies, nations, invention, culture and humanity and the only thing you can come up with is tugging and your crotch and grunting like a freaking juvenile.

Well done, ape.
Zombie Corpse Rental

San Jose, CA

#7 May 25, 2014
Cigar Face 21 wrote:
Another impotent jealous bi whiteboy obsessing over black nuts again. Go to the gay forum you freak.
http://www.gifbin.com/981768

Since: Apr 14

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#8 May 25, 2014
Cigar Face 21 wrote:
Another impotent jealous bi whiteboy obsessing over black nuts again. Go to the gay forum you freak.
If I am wrong, please explain to me why. I feel if people had more honest discussions about race, our society would not be in the shape it's in today. All too often whenever I try to discuss racial differences, I am met with comments like yours or threats, I get called "racist" and I get dismissed either by being banned from social networking sites or being ignored or ostracized, which has happened online and offline. Because blacks and the people who love them cannot ever have a debate with me, and prove me wrong, it often makes me think perhaps the Klan and the Nazi's are correct.

In any case - I would like to try to stay on topic, so I will point out another parable in the Apes films:

During World War II, in the United States of America, Japanese-Americans were taken from their homes, and placed in internment camps by the United States Government as a result of a fear that some Japanese-Americans could be working for the Japanese military.

In "Battle for the Planet of the Apes", the humans in Ape City were placed in a corral by the gorillas just before the mutants attacked the city as a result of a fear that some of the humans could be working for the mutants, and/or join the mutants when the battle begins.

The conflict between the characters, Governor Kolp and General Aldo, reminds me of the feud between the Ku Klux Klan and the Black Panthers - Two opposite sides of the same coin.

Then there is the Vietnam War - Many Americans were against the war, and saw it as a rivalry between two power-hungry tyrants much like the competition between the mutants and the gorillas was a battle for power and control of society.

I also could not help but think of the American Civil War. In "Battle for the Planet of the Apes", I presume Kolp desires to free his fellow humans from captivity. Although it is never said. Some Ape fans believe Kolp may have viewed the humans in Ape City as traitors for not trying to fight the Apes off. But again, it is never said. So if Kolp did in fact desire to free them....well, ending slavery was one of the causes for the Union during the War between the States, but I do not support the fact that some of President Lincoln's troops were going around the South, burning down people's homes, raping women, stealing things, and murdering innocent civilians. And Kolp and his men planned to burn down all of Ape City, and possibly commit other immoral war crimes just like many U.S. soldiers did during the American Civil War.

Another parable from the War between the States - The North won the war and freed the slaves, and some black people became violent with white people as a result of a desire for revenge, and the Union officers looked the other way. Some white men formed the Ku Klux Klan to defend themselves and their people against the former field hands. Well, in the Ape series, the humans had apes as their servants, until the apes turned the tables on them, and now rule the world. Now Kolp plans to get all the humans together to fight the apes, much like the Ku Klux Klan did in the 1860's when they began attacking African-Americans.

There's a scene where Kolp and the mutants invade Ape City via a school-bus, which I thought was symbolic of the fact that in 1973 when the film was released, during that same time period African-American and European-American students were being bused together. Kolp and his men go into Ape City in the bus, and given what they planned to do, the bus in a sense represented hate and violence. Was something being said about the school-buses in real life? The buses full of white young adults that were going into what were once all black schools were no doubt full of hate and violence, and the bus was going to places where they were unwelcome, much like the apes certainly did not welcome Kolp and the mutants.

Since: Apr 14

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#9 May 25, 2014
For example - Back in the late 1960's/early 1970's, black-American teenagers at the formerly all black schools saw the white-American students on the school buses going into their school, and saw the whites as invaders (even though it was the U.S. Government making them go there.) and the black teens assumed the white teens were in violent, racist, pretentious, snobby, and perhaps were going to cause trouble or at the very least were secretly racist, but lacked the guts to express their honest feelings. And because the blacks had so much hatred for whites as a result of what whites in the past did to their people for being black, it didn't matter if the whites on the bus were racist or not. Their skin color alone made them guilty by association.(This way of thinking still clearly exists today among black racists, and they feel they are completely justified with their feelings because of the past even though most whites are racist, and no one is mistreating blacks on a mainstream, socially-acceptable level.)

In "Battle for the Planet of the Apes", Kolp and the humans were indeed going to Ape City to cause trouble. There was a firefight between the humans on the bus, and the apes on the outside of it. So the bus is indeed a very symbolical item to appear in the film, and I think the presence of the bus subconsciously reminded American audiences of the racial tensions going on in their very country. As a result, I feel Kolp's bus gave the scene a more creepy atmosphere for audiences since actual acts of violence were going on, and a school-bus was largely connected to all of it.

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#10 May 25, 2014
"even though most whites are racist, and no one is mistreating blacks on a mainstream, socially-acceptable level."

I meant to type even if most whites are racist, no one is mistreating blacks on a mainstream, socially-acceptable level. Although honestly, in my experience, most whites are not racist at all. In fact, they seem to defend blacks more then anyone.
The Reverend

Athens, GA

#11 May 25, 2014
Ok Preacher Aragon, you're getting all delusional if you think you've got some wonderful idea pulled out your azz about race by watching POTA.
It's true what you're saying: "Art imitates life."
Now having said that, can we get an 'Ape' man???
[Black & White Folks Chorus] Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaape Man!!!!!!!!!!
http://tinypic.com/r/14tgft/8
http://tinypic.com/r/9zlhes/8
http://tinypic.com/r/33y3wh1/8
http://tinypic.com/r/2j17s5u/8
Cigar Face 21

Riverview, FL

#12 May 25, 2014
ShiningElectron wrote:
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You've just proven his point. He's talking about societies, nations, invention, culture and humanity and the only thing you can come up with is tugging and your crotch and grunting like a freaking juvenile.
Well done, ape.
Be a man you bi cave rat! Put your information out soo people can actually find you and wanna see will you say that to their faces?

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#14 May 25, 2014
The Reverend wrote:
Ok Preacher Aragon, you're getting all delusional if you think you've got some wonderful idea pulled out your azz about race by watching POTA.
It's true what you're saying: "Art imitates life."
Now having said that, can we get an 'Ape' man???
[Black & White Folks Chorus] Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaape Man!!!!!!!!!!
http://tinypic.com/r/14tgft/8
http://tinypic.com/r/9zlhes/8
http://tinypic.com/r/33y3wh1/8
http://tinypic.com/r/2j17s5u/8
I'm well aware of that albino ape. It's a very rare. What's your point? Look at some black gorillas sometime and compare them to the faces of black people. There is a resemblance.
Cigar Face 21 wrote:
<quoted text>Be a man you bi cave rat! Put your information out soo people can actually find you and wanna see will you say that to their faces?
Even if you successful assaulted people all for having an opinion, that doesn't make what they say NOT true.

You can't debate this maturely, intelligently, or diplomatically. Your only reaction is to get frustrated and make threats. Why is that?
ShiningElectron

Denver, CO

#15 May 25, 2014
Cigar Face 21 wrote:
<quoted text>Be a man you bi cave rat! Put your information out soo people can actually find you and wanna see will you say that to their faces?
So you've moved from middle-school mentality dyck/gay obsession to threats of violence. Way to put those stereotypes to bed, ape.
Cigar Face21

Riverview, FL

#16 May 25, 2014
ShiningElectron wrote:
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So you've moved from middle-school mentality dyck/gay obsession to threats of violence. Way to put those stereotypes to bed, ape.
And you've just answered the obvious. You are the typical white bi topix coward. You were busted in the gay forums by a whitewoman . Lol! AXE you phaggggit.lol!!
ShiningElectron

Denver, CO

#17 May 25, 2014
Cigar Face21 wrote:
<quoted text>And you've just answered the obvious. You are the typical white bi topix coward. You were busted in the gay forums by a whitewoman . Lol! AXE you phaggggit.lol!!
You're like a damned 12-year-old or something. Save your ooking for somebody of your own, limited intellect. You know, somebody like a chimp.
Cigar Face 21

Riverview, FL

#18 May 25, 2014
ShiningElectron wrote:
<quoted text>
You're like a damned 12-year-old or something. Save your ooking for somebody of your own, limited intellect. You know, somebody like a chimp.
You were busted in the gay forums! axe you phaggggit lol!!! Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha haha! Lmbao!! You bi pale cave ape.lol!!!

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#19 May 25, 2014
Sexual preference has nothing to do with the topic. There are gay black men by the way, but I know you're only bringing up homosexuality as a way to taunt others, so I won't spend much time on here discussing that subject.

Do you have anything intelligent to add to the discussion?
Tgagain09

Chicago, IL

#20 May 25, 2014
How many true negro apes were in the POTA movies?

“Wife of Vanwyngarden :)”

Since: May 14

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#21 May 25, 2014
Tgagain09 wrote:
How many true negro apes were in the POTA movies?
I was the ourangutan :)

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