sauce

Eden Prairie, MN

#469 Aug 29, 2013
Capree wrote:
<quoted text>No, In my words black women don't need or need to help you black men who praise and treasure other races of women. First off black women are not black men we don't feel inferior to other women like black men do to other men. We black women will get out and compete against other women where bm are afraid to compete against other races of men. I am not talking about your female relatives helping you, they can do what they want. I am talking about non-blood black women who ww-loving black men know and have the nerve to ask them for favors. Where your treasure lay so shall you heart so ww-loving black men need to beg their ww for help and not come snooping around black women when they need help or are in trouble because we won't be there for your kind.
Hell ya girl, thats truth. I like ww and bw, I got a good job n dont mooch off no woman! A real bm stands on his own sooner or later...a black male, jus sponges off our sisters and ignorant ww. Brothers dont date bw cause they be seein the scams comin, ww usually dont. Jus get workin yall, stand on ya own like a man.

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#470 Aug 29, 2013
Shalimarr wrote:
<quoted text>
I disagree, many black people have low IQs and no interest in reasoning with each other.
Look at some of the filth that posts here.
What race are you?
i beez da cheet

United States

#471 Aug 29, 2013
I saw an ape with the prettiest head of hair today.
sauce

Eden Prairie, MN

#473 Aug 29, 2013
i beez da cheet wrote:
I saw an ape with the prettiest head of hair today.
Yo thats cold man. Bw be out there workin hard man. Lot more than I can say fer us..bm, cause outta all my boys only 2, got jobs! I work as many hours as I can, most my peops jus mooch off a dumb ww, that dont be knowin bout r scammin ways...hahaha. They never learn, dont bother me tho. BW work way more than most of my homies so dont try n bring em dn man.

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#474 Aug 29, 2013
BIgKnob wrote:
<quoted text> You guessed right it is a wht/dude I asked some questions he/she couldnt answer.
What didn't I answer?

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#475 Aug 29, 2013
KIP wrote:
<quoted text>
That still doesn't make make much sense.
If a perfect stranger is in need of my help and I can help her I will do that. I don't care what kind of men she likes. That's not any of my concern. It doesn't matter if she worships a blonde-haired, blue-eyed statue, of Brad Pitt. If she needs MY help and I am in a position to do the right thing I will do just that. It's about GIVING Capree. Helping someone doesn't have anything to do with what or how YOU might feel they think about you, because in essence you really don't know the person. Refusing to simply help someone in a time of need because of their preference in men/women is childish. It's selfish and indicative of someone self-absorbed. This kind of reluctance is shortsighted and is what the morally "little" people might aspire to. You have absolutely NO idea if you or someone you love will need help from someone else some day.
You need to seriously rethink that logic.
A perfect stranger that I don't know, sure I would help him if I could. I don't even know his background. I was referring to black men who I know (and I know several) who devalues black women in favor of non-black or famous black men like Wesley Snipes, Charles Barkley and Ice-T who have publically ridiculed black women while uplifting non-black women, I could see them in the gutter and walk on by. Let the women who the uplift save them.

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#476 Aug 29, 2013
sauce wrote:
<quoted text> Hell ya girl, thats truth. I like ww and bw, I got a good job n dont mooch off no woman! A real bm stands on his own sooner or later...a black male, jus sponges off our sisters and ignorant ww. Brothers dont date bw cause they be seein the scams comin, ww usually dont. Jus get workin yall, stand on ya own like a man.
Many black women are out here working hard they just want men who will bring as much to the table and not try to sponge off them.

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#477 Aug 29, 2013
BIgKnob wrote:
@ Capree you bw love to throw the bm's black mother in the mix, your mother is black, thats to back him up, to stop him from criticizing a bw, but never do you bw say my daddy's black, therefore respect the bm..........
Well my dad was black and he was a great daddy! He did everything right without skipping a beat until the day he died. Yes my mother was black but there is a big difference in the why black mothers raise their black sons compared to their black daughters. I saw that with my bother. If you want me to go farther, I will.

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#478 Aug 29, 2013
Capree wrote:
<quoted text>
Well my dad was black and he was a great daddy! He did everything right without skipping a beat until the day he died. Yes my mother was black but there is a big difference in the why black mothers raise their black sons compared to their black daughters. I saw that with my bother. If you want me to go farther, I will.
I'm glad your father was amazing :) it debunks the myth that BW who provide constructive feedback did not have BM fathers of quality.

Please elaborate on your mother's raising.

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#479 Aug 29, 2013
TimeforHonesty wrote:
<quoted text>
I'm glad your father was amazing :) it debunks the myth that BW who provide constructive feedback did not have BM fathers of quality.
Please elaborate on your mother's raising.
Thanks but my father being such a great dad is what help me set the standard for what is a good black men. Most black men failed miserably.

Level 1

Since: Aug 13

Santa Clara, CA

#480 Aug 29, 2013
Capree wrote:
<quoted text>
Thanks but my father being such a great dad is what help me set the standard for what is a good black men. Most black men failed miserably.
You have so much hate for your own race. Instead of looking at the good you have achieved as a people, all you can see is the negativity. It's actually blacks like yourself who help bring down your own race. Ask yourself one question. With all this negative energy you have towards your own people, what have you done to help the situation? Even as a white man I can see the good in African American Men. In fact, the reason you have the right to vote and even have an opinion is because of a Black Man, MLK.

Do you get a kick out of race hating your own people? Believe me, it doesn't reflect very good upon yourself. Most of us just sit back and laugh at you, as you contribute to the degeneration of your own race. If you're not part of the solution, then you're part of the problem. I however, actually care, that's why I'm empowering you to stop embarrassing your race, and see how you can help the circumstances, instead of just complaining about them and walking away. It's attitudes like yours that's holding your race back. How can you advance as a people if you have so much dissension and infighting?

Since: May 12

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#481 Aug 30, 2013
Cogito2 wrote:
<quoted text>
And I, in turn, disagree with you. Your arbitrarily assigning MANY BLACK PEOPLE an low IQ rating has no bases in reality beyond your limited, finite, bias world. And surely you jest, characterizing anyone here in the pejorative with your posting history; unless of course, you are claiming that " filth recognizes filth. "
An intelligent person knows that human intelligence exist in many forms and configuration and merely because it is not ostensible to you, does not mean it is not present. "Absence of evidence, is not evidence of absence. "
We've been IQ tested many times and found to have lower IQs than other races. where as 10% of whites have an exceptionally low IQ, 40% of blacks do.
Asians regularly come out on top in these tests and we all know how many Doctors, scientists etc are Asians compared to blacks. Also what African leaders have allowed the white, Arab and Asian man to do to and in their countries, is clear evidence that Blacks have lower IQ and are easy for other races to exploit and manipulate. How could the average Nigerian, in 4th riches nation on Earth be in such poverty if black men had normal brain power and intelligence?

Since: May 12

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#482 Aug 30, 2013
I do believe the low IQ studies are producing genuine results about Black people. There's no other explanation for how black s behave and how blacks fail consistently compared to others.
Look how many hundreds of years those Africans sold members of their own tribes into slavery. Selling of the young and strong, for century after century. Selling their own into misery while the Arab and White men and their countries got richer and stronger off the slaves.
Those Arabs and Whites could only do that for so long, because they were dealing with men who were dumber than them.
If whites had mot decided to abolish slavery, those same Nigerians and Ghanians would still be selling young strong tribe members into slavery TODAY!!!!

Level 8

Since: May 08

Pacific Northwest

#486 Aug 30, 2013
Shalimarr wrote:
<quoted text>
We've been IQ tested many times and found to have lower IQs than other races. where as 10% of whites have an exceptionally low IQ, 40% of blacks do.

Asians regularly come out on top in these tests and we all know how many Doctors, scientists etc are Asians compared to blacks.

Also what African leaders have allowed the white, Arab and Asian man to do to and in their countries, is clear evidence that Blacks have lower IQ and are easy for other races to exploit and manipulate. How could the average Nigerian, in 4th riches nation on Earth be in such poverty if black men had normal brain power and intelligence?
Explosive charges, Shalimarr - but I suspect there is more truth to what you say than most African-Americans would care to admit.

However, my main concern is this: What is the *reason* for the measurable IQ gap that these testers observe? Genetics? Environment? A combination of the two?

What should distress all of us is the substandard or negative environmental influences which so many Black children are subjected to: Parents who put them in front of the TV at age 1; Parents who don't read to their kids; Parents who have no clue about proper nutrition...who don't value developing cognitive skills in young minds (learning chess, for example), etc., etc.

There are definitely a range of poor parenting practices which will all but ensure that childrens' intelligence is stunted and never develops to its full potential.

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Since: Jan 12

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#488 Aug 30, 2013
Shalimarr wrote:
<quoted text>
We've been IQ tested many times and found to have lower IQs than other races. where as 10% of whites have an exceptionally low IQ, 40% of blacks do.
Asians regularly come out on top in these tests and we all know how many Doctors, scientists etc are Asians compared to blacks. Also what African leaders have allowed the white, Arab and Asian man to do to and in their countries, is clear evidence that Blacks have lower IQ and are easy for other races to exploit and manipulate. How could the average Nigerian, in 4th riches nation on Earth be in such poverty if black men had normal brain power and intelligence?
Stone, you are not very intelligent for someone who thinks that she has a broad understanding of the science of intelligence. None of these so called "IQ" test measures organic intelligence; it measures learned information in controlled academic settings. Every intelligent person understands that environments absent of intellectual stimulation will adversely affect or retard a person's intellectual evolution, and yet still, this arrested development can be only temporary, contingent upon them getting more exposure or an outright environmental change.

I myself, was always considered precocious in intelligence, but I was at best, a marginal student; so had you tested me early on, you would have classified me as "questionable in intelligence." (some still do...lol) Anyways, in retrospect, there were environmental issues: poverty, puberty, distracted by sports and girls and not to mention, the uncompleted construction of my neurological pathways. Math made little to no sense to me and then, suddenly one day, it all became crystal clear.

It is not always about how intelligent someone else is based on your biased, myopically defined academic metrics: it's also about where they are in their evolution. Also, their are many forms of intelligence: mathematics, scientific, artistic, spatial, linguistic, practical, emotional, social etc., and not all people perform intelligent valuations by the same metrics that you clearly do; thus, you can not say with any degree of certitude of why people will or will not be romantically compatible.

I am reasonably comfortable that I have traveled and lived around the world more than you and can thus, give testimony to how people perceived and reacted to me as a Black American male. My experiences in Europe, Asia and South America bear no resemblance to what I see propagated by you and some others here with low opinions of black Americans. If anything, it was the opposite.

I remember once landing in either Amsterdam or Brussels late night and was standing in the money exchange line. I was the only black of about 20 people. I noticed this white guy who approached the line, stopped and keep glancing at the board with the exchange rates. He then clearly begin to scan the people in line and zoomed in on me and finally approached me and with very poor english asked me if I was an english speaker and then began to quiz me about exchange rates in several currency pairs: was it best to do it here or make the exchange at his hotel, what were the premiums charged etc..? Once satisfied, he thanked me and promptly walked away.

Later, I reflected on why he selected me for his query instead of one of the clearly Europeans whites? What was the basis of his analysis...his perceptions? He clearly invested an expectation of intelligence in me and decided that I would be qualified to enlighten him. You clearly would have approached a white because you believe in their superior intelligence in all things, but others do not share your perceptions. Living in the Canary Islands for three years, I can't count the number of dumb, helpless, white Brits that I encountered with little to no intellectual dexterity. So your race based intellectual theories have little to no traction with me or in many instances....in the real world.

Level 7

Since: Jan 12

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#490 Aug 30, 2013
Shalimarr wrote:
I do believe the low IQ studies are producing genuine results about Black people. There's no other explanation for how black s behave and how blacks fail consistently compared to others.
Look how many hundreds of years those Africans sold members of their own tribes into slavery. Selling of the young and strong, for century after century. Selling their own into misery while the Arab and White men and their countries got richer and stronger off the slaves.
Those Arabs and Whites could only do that for so long, because they were dealing with men who were dumber than them.
If whites had mot decided to abolish slavery, those same Nigerians and Ghanians would still be selling young strong tribe members into slavery TODAY!!!!
All of this is clearly intended to be emotionally provocative and to elicit a passionate defense and denial from me of your simplistic views. People can be socialized to think and act anyway that the engineers scrips for them. Look no further than in your mirror. You have been conditioned to be idolatrous of whites and to view their culture as superior; and you Madame, follow their script to the letter.

You do so even if it means you subjugating the humanity of those blacks who birthed, nurtured, sheltered and protected you until you became an adult. You have been socialized in your valuation of all human intelligence, aesthetics, morality, integrity etc., to regard whites presumptively as superior without any corroborating evidence of this superiority.

This is also the source of your cognitive dissonance that drives your passionate hatred for white women: you esteem all things white, but you resent and want desperately to replace them as the feminine representative in their paradigm of racial superiority. Stop looking out the window and spend more time looking in the mirror.

Since: May 12

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#491 Aug 30, 2013
Capree wrote:
<quoted text>
What race are you?
Black, but please feel free to explain why black countries and black people are at the bottom, far below everyone else. When we're just as smart as them.

Since: May 12

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#492 Aug 30, 2013
Harrisson wrote:
<quoted text>
Explosive charges, Shalimarr - but I suspect there is more truth to what you say than most African-Americans would care to admit.
However, my main concern is this: What is the *reason* for the measurable IQ gap that these testers observe? Genetics? Environment? A combination of the two?
What should distress all of us is the substandard or negative environmental influences which so many Black children are subjected to: Parents who put them in front of the TV at age 1; Parents who don't read to their kids; Parents who have no clue about proper nutrition...who don't value developing cognitive skills in young minds (learning chess, for example), etc., etc.
There are definitely a range of poor parenting practices which will all but ensure that childrens' intelligence is stunted and never develops to its full potential.
I'm not being racist or a troll, I'm being brutally honest. In fact AA IQs average out at 85. Yet MY group who still live in Jamaica are 15 points below AAs at 70 points, with BF's country StLucia even lower.

Level 7

Since: Jan 12

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#496 Aug 30, 2013
Shalimarr wrote:
<quoted text>
I'm not being racist or a troll, I'm being brutally honest. In fact AA IQs average out at 85. Yet MY group who still live in Jamaica are 15 points below AAs at 70 points, with BF's country StLucia even lower.
People like you also correlate intelligence with material wealth and possession, when in fact, machiavellian ruthlessness and cunningness often plays a bigger role in the acquisition of this wealth than your highly touted IQ test results. I believe that it Balzac that stated..."Behind every great fortune there was a crime committed."

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#499 Aug 30, 2013
Cogito2 wrote:
<quoted text>
Stone, you are not very intelligent for someone who thinks that she has a broad understanding of the science of intelligence. None of these so called "IQ" test measures organic intelligence; it measures learned information in controlled academic settings. Every intelligent person understands that environments absent of intellectual stimulation will adversely affect or retardevolution, and yet still, this arrested development can be only temporary, contingent upon them getting more exposure or an outright environmental change.
I myself, was always considered precocious in intelligence, but I was at best, a marginal student; so had you tested me early on, you would have classified me as "questionable in intelligence." (some still do...lol) Anyways, in retrospect, there were environmental issues: poverty, puberty, distracted by sports and girls and not to mention, the uncompleted construction of my neurological pathways. Math made little to no sense to me and then, suddenly one day, it all became crystal clear.
It is not always about how intelligent someone else is based on your biased, myopically defined academic metrics: it's also about where they are in their evolution. Also, their are many forms of intelligence: mathematics, scientific, artistic, spatial, linguistic, practical, emotional, social etc., and not all people perform intelligent valuations by the same metrics that you clearly do; thus, you can not say with any degree of certitude of why people will or will not be romantically compatible.
I am reasonably comfortable that I have traveled and lived around the world more than you and can thus, give testimony to how people perceived and reacted to me as a Black American male. My experiences in Europe, Asia and South America bear no resemblance to what I see propagated by you and some others here with low opinions of black Americans. If anything, it was the opposite.
I remember once landing in either Amsterdam or Brussels late night and was standing in the money exchange line. I was the only black of about 20 people. I noticed this white guy who approached the line, stopped and keep glancing at the board with the exchange rates. He then clearly begin to scan the people in line and zoomed in on me and finally approached me and with very poor english asked me if I was an english speaker and then began to quiz me about exchange rates in several currency pairs: was it best to do it here or make the exchange at his hotel, what were the premiums charged etc..? Once satisfied, he thanked me and promptly walked away.
Later, I reflected on why he selected me for his query instead of one of the clearly Europeans whites? What was the basis of his analysis...his perceptions? He clearly invested an expectation of intelligence in me and decided that I would be qualified to enlighten him. You clearly would have approached a white because you believe in their superior intelligence in all things, but others do not share your perceptions. Living in the Canary Islands for three years, I can't count the number of dumb, helpless, white Brits that I encountered with little to no intellectual dexterity. So your race based intellectual theories have little to no traction with me or in many instances....in the real world.
You are condesvending and arrogant because you are an intelligent man from the dumbest group in your country. If you were a Korean-American you wouldn't be so conceited.
I know stimulation and environment affects IQ levels. I was able to raise a daughter who is in the top 2% of the population, while i'm nowhere near that level. But I knew what to do and whose help to enlist to push up her IQ and educational attainment. I even knew to give her Omega 3 supplements.
There is something fundamental about blacks why we don't create fast stimulatiing progressive environments. We create Jamaica and The Congo not Norway and SouthKorea.

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