A message to all IR BM.... from a bw
BIgKnob

United States

#2249 Sep 4, 2013
In 1970 bw came out with the bw's manifesto, and demanded ww share power, and declared black nationalism (bm) misogynist, the black woman left the blk liberation movement and joined the womens liberation movement, with ww. Many bw accepeted the captilaist evaluation of manhood and womanhood, and began attacking the bm as shiftless, lazy, this began to tare personal relationships apart, soon there was seperation between man and wife & child. See brothers this is whats happening now, with this conforming bs,( just be a blk wm ) blk men are corrupt. Its this eurocentric mind set gone mad. I noticed no mention of former Baltimore Mayor Sheila Dixon A BW convicted while in office of credit card fraud. But that dont count.
London

Columbus, OH

#2250 Sep 4, 2013
Shalimarr wrote:
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I think it's deeper than just hair. Weave symbolizes our collective envy of others and confirms their assumptions that our features are the features of the inadequate. I think when just a few TV presenters and film stars wore weave, or when BW wore weave for special accassions, it wasn't a big deal. But now we are at a stage where more BW cover their own hair in Asian women's hair, than just wearing their natural hair. When that balance changed it became a symbol of self hate.
For me to spend more time with a Korean chick's hair glued to my head, than I do showing my won hair... shows I think God made a mistake with how he made me, but not how he made the Korean.
My opinion... which I know many weave wearers disagree with.
Gluing Korean hair on your head is no different to bleaching your skin, or having surgery to slim your nose or lips.
I think the weave thing is deeper for those who have self hate. Not everyone who wears weave has that issue. Its very frustrating conversing on the subject of weave because so many insist on telling others how they feel. I do not view weave in the same manner I view most plastic surgery although I do feel in a capitalistic society we should have the freedom to alter ourselves how we want without all of the bullying. Especially when we all know bm make it their personal business to mock and ridicule the hair of bw weave or not. I don't believe in the natural hair movement because in this country most women are not natural .. So having a natural hair movement is at odds with the trend and social conformance . Why any bw would chose to alter herself against the norms is IMO stupid and needless. I'm for conformance wherever it is possible and I think those who teach non conformance are evil ... Most often they are strict conformists in fact .

AgentSmith9

“The Sun was high...”

Level 5

Since: Jun 10

and so was I

#2251 Sep 4, 2013
I don't think weave really has much of anything to do with self hate.

Let's face it, some black hair is very hard to maintain. Now for the every day hussle and bussle of life some females don't have 3 hours to dedicate to their hair every day.

I was in a factory in Alabama last month and I walked into the lunch room and all the black women there had their heads wrapped. I looked around the room and it was like 50 women ALL of them had their hair wrapped up and had bandanas on their heads.

It's just too much effort, but they looked good in the body. Nice phat booties curvy nicely dressed, just their hair.

The other females had their hair down, but they had flat azzes not much curves etc..

You can't have everything :)
Beer Belly Bobs Ghost

New York, NY

#2252 Sep 4, 2013
AgentSmith9 wrote:
I don't think weave really has much of anything to do with self hate.
Let's face it, some black hair is very hard to maintain. Now for the every day hussle and bussle of life some females don't have 3 hours to dedicate to their hair every day.
I was in a factory in Alabama last month and I walked into the lunch room and all the black women there had their heads wrapped. I looked around the room and it was like 50 women ALL of them had their hair wrapped up and had bandanas on their heads.
It's just too much effort, but they looked good in the body. Nice phat booties curvy nicely dressed, just their hair.
The other females had their hair down, but they had flat azzes not much curves etc..
You can't have everything :)
Ask yourself this tho. If it werent for white culture do you think weaves would even exist? Africans never had weaves all through the entire history of ancient Africa until our era. Look at ancient Egyptians on the tomb walls, the women had braids or wigs. They wore head pieces and such.

Check it...

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-D69jH9RnIY4/TqCOtG1...

Cant stand weaves, that chit looks unnatural and flat out ghetto.

Rather see a bald headed woman...and thats not a bad look either if she can pull it off.
BIgKnob

United States

#2255 Sep 4, 2013
Former football/actor jim browm, once said, that he fought for civil rights, not to be intergrated with anybody. I agree with jim, people have their god given human rights to live freely within the values of their choosing, to define themselves, and to think and act in their own self-interest, like every other people in america do, hispanics dont stop speaking spanish to be american, you have in Los Angeles, a china town, korea town, little siagon, little japan, the fairfax district is a jewish town. The native americans have their resvreations, casinos, but blacks dont have nothing not even a fourm, because instead of doing for self, you keep fighting for a piece of something owned by somebody else and thats ingorant. Thats why you have women trying to conform to somebody elses image of beauty, instead of being their god given self. I heard an interview with a blk/w porn queen, she said I got into the business to prove bw are beautiful and thats sad, degrading youself to prove something, to somebody. be yourself and dont conform to anybody but you, you, you, you..........smart thing to do, be you, do you..........
Cap Black

United States

#2257 Sep 4, 2013
TimeforHonesty wrote:
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My points are valid; why attack?
I'm used to takin dck from muh fellow homo thugs and I haven't been wit a bxtch in so long.
So trick, you gon Gibbs me sum of dat sweet pussie or what?
adloe

Satellite Provider

#2258 Sep 4, 2013
We blacks are pathetic we need to change quickly.there are no more chains on our ankles yet we put them back on ourselves with our mouths and doings...eish ):

Level 8

Since: Jan 10

Location hidden

#2259 Sep 4, 2013
London wrote:
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Agree Capree. I have never understood those sistas who loudly talk about their beautifying regiments in such a way. I have always cringed and found a way out of the room when a bw would loudly proclaim to other races that her hair was hers because she bought it. Very uncouth and stupid for them to do this, but many bw are just as stupid and dumb as some bm. They think this is gaining them some type of social acceptance but the question should be what type of person wants social acceptance from a group of people who hate them? Just no pride nor dignity.
Exactly London, I know of no other race of people willing to tell their private business and open themselves up like gutted fish in hopes of being accepted. Most black women who foolishly do this are not accepted because others don't accept a race as equal who gives them ammo to ridicule them. Asian women are the #1 consumers of skin whiting/bleaching products in the world but do you hear any Asian women telling other women that they lighten their skin or have eye surgery? It we black women had of kept our mouths shut about are private hair habits, many nonblacks wouldn't have known Adam about us or our beauty secrets.

Level 5

Since: Jul 13

Rio Grande, Puerto Rico

#2260 Sep 4, 2013
AAF wrote:
Please stop looking towards bw for some help, ww are your women now. Today an ir bm and his white fat ww were carrying what seemed like heavy luggage about to go up the station stairs, they stopped and looked around for someone to help them they turned over to the nearest person which was a bw who heard them and you know what she did she didn't even look at them and carried on her way up the steps, some Indian person dropped something and the bw hurried to pick it up and smiled, I laughed to myself inside. I thought I would add insult to injury and also followed up the stairs without acknowledging them, when I got to the exit I saw the bw she smiled and I smiled back. Porky n the loser were left stranded. llol
Bw ir bm now belong to ww, I do not support nor defend bm, there is no room at the inn, ir bm must stop looking for support from bw and get it from ww. I do not make eye contact with them, It i saw their car get stolen I would not call the police nor help report it bw must have no love for irbm, ww can help them, this couple is like an Asian couple to me nothing to do with me.
So it's bad for a BM to be with a WW, but it is right for a BW to be with a WM? How stupid is this, just because someone from your race fell in love or wants to be with a person of another race it doesn't make him/her a disgrace to their own. It is funny when women from a race say something like that and then you see them saying that men from other races prefer them, etc. You kind of feel backstabbed to see BM with WW and that makes you behave less human around them. What if an ir bw's car got stolen? Would you call the police?

Level 8

Since: Jan 10

Location hidden

#2261 Sep 4, 2013
Beer Belly Bobs Ghost wrote:
<quoted text>Ok, I will continue to laugh at and mock your fake marriage.
Whatever, gets you through the night.
Beer Belly Bobs Ghost wrote:
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Not because I'm obsessed, but because...it's funny and you look ridiculous every time you mention it, and your approval is not necessary but thanks.
Hey, how is it ridiculous I am a black woman who loves a white man and he (my husband) is a white man loves and would die for a black woman (me). What's the big deal??? I have dated several white men before him and it's nothing special for me so I can't see why it's so amazing for black men. People are just people but I prefer white men. Black men wouldn't feel so inferior to white men if black men got out there and improved themselves. Some white men love black women heart and soul and do treat us very well. White men have this over black men. I would never go back to black.
Beer Belly Bobs Ghost wrote:
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And you're right, her subject of pain is none of ANY of our business but if she chooses to display it so obviously and often then we simply cant ignore it. No one is forcing her to make us see it for what it is.
Exactly.
Beer Belly Bobs Ghost wrote:
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And being a bw you should know that the disparity between black people and all other non bp is purely a systematic effort to keep us down.
Yep, yep, sure, sure but what I never could understand is why black men as a whole never stand up and break the chain instead of continuing to let their same race of people go through this.
Beer Belly Bobs Ghost wrote:
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Institutionalized racism is very real and on all levels. Bw are not perceived as a threat in the same way yet there are still more bw in prison than non bw, more bw high school drop outs, more bw with HIV and more bw unemployed than non bw so stop trying to make it seem that bw are on a whole different level to bm.
At least we are in the position of adversary.
More by the many like black men who have fell victims to all of that.

Level 8

Since: Jan 10

Location hidden

#2262 Sep 4, 2013
Beer Belly Bobs Ghost wrote:
<quoted text>Yeah thats my own personal list, but it's a list from a bm and thats what all you bw are in here to discuss so that alone gives it merit.
About the hair...I agree 100% but even you said the only time you might not wear it natural is for a "special" event. Interesting that you would not deem your own hair in a natural state good enough for special events.
I can respect a bw that wears her hair natural ALL the time.
I know and know of a few.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =hv6t39_XP_wXX
All the bw presenting the award have weaves or processed and straightened chemical hair or...god knows what but Lauren to whom the award is going to is all natural.
Now THATS a bw for a bm
Then black men need to let this be known instead of always black men praising and expecting black women to have the hair of another races. That's like black women expecting most black men to have bright gray or blue eyes and long blonde hair like Brad Pitt did back in the day.

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Since: May 12

Location hidden

#2267 Sep 4, 2013
London wrote:
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I think the weave thing is deeper for those who have self hate. Not everyone who wears weave has that issue. Its very frustrating conversing on the subject of weave because so many insist on telling others how they feel. I do not view weave in the same manner I view most plastic surgery although I do feel in a capitalistic society we should have the freedom to alter ourselves how we want without all of the bullying. Especially when we all know bm make it their personal business to mock and ridicule the hair of bw weave or not. I don't believe in the natural hair movement because in this country most women are not natural .. So having a natural hair movement is at odds with the trend and social conformance . Why any bw would chose to alter herself against the norms is IMO stupid and needless. I'm for conformance wherever it is possible and I think those who teach non conformance are evil ... Most often they are strict conformists in fact .
I don't think any BM or BW walks up to weave wearers in the street and mocks them or tries t make them feel bad. I post my opinions, the vast majority of blacks have an IQ of 70, so would be unable to understand my argument anyway. I am giving my opinion and maybe a teenage girl who has grown up in a family of weave wearers might think about what I and others have said and decide not to go down that route.
I don't think for a second that the average Nigerian woman I see in London with waist length straight weave glued to her head, flicking it and pushing it behind her ears imitating white women, would care at all what I think.
Nobody thinks weave wearers are important enough to approach on the street or insult. We just think you are pathetic envious fools. And who tries to change an old fool from her actions????

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#2268 Sep 4, 2013
AgentSmith9 wrote:
I don't think weave really has much of anything to do with self hate.
Let's face it, some black hair is very hard to maintain. Now for the every day hussle and bussle of life some females don't have 3 hours to dedicate to their hair every day.
I was in a factory in Alabama last month and I walked into the lunch room and all the black women there had their heads wrapped. I looked around the room and it was like 50 women ALL of them had their hair wrapped up and had bandanas on their heads.
It's just too much effort, but they looked good in the body. Nice phat booties curvy nicely dressed, just their hair.
The other females had their hair down, but they had flat azzes not much curves etc..
You can't have everything :)
Natural hair is far easier to maintain than weave. Weave actually STINKS of dead skin and sweat build up. It's disgusting and the scalp and hair roots where the dirt and sweat are cannot be washed properly.
It also gradually tears the hair out at the hairline. Even supermodels cannot save their hair line from the ravages of weave.
It is a sign of self hate... have you noticed how these lowly weave wearers started to weave long BLONDE weaves and long ginger weaves? They took gradual steps to get to the blonde weave situation.
Think back to the days of slavery, those BW toiling on plantations being used and abused by white women. Now bring your mind to today, the descendents of those abused women covering up their hair and gluing long blonde wigs to their heads, trying to emulate their syperior.
Still slave minded.

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#2269 Sep 4, 2013
Beer Belly Bobs Ghost wrote:
<quoted text>Ask yourself this tho. If it werent for white culture do you think weaves would even exist? Africans never had weaves all through the entire history of ancient Africa until our era. Look at ancient Egyptians on the tomb walls, the women had braids or wigs. They wore head pieces and such.
Check it...
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-D69jH9RnIY4/TqCOtG1...
Cant stand weaves, that chit looks unnatural and flat out ghetto.
Rather see a bald headed woman...and thats not a bad look either if she can pull it off.
It is a dumb way of seeking acceptance. These women are trying to shorten the distance between them and other races of women. Trying to create a physical commonalities. Trying to be LESS Black and more ambiguous like a latina, deeply tanned Spanish woman.

They think they can brainwash these other races of women into thinking that the hair actually grows from their heads and they don't grow nappy hair.

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#2270 Sep 4, 2013
Mary_ M wrote:
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So it's bad for a BM to be with a WW, but it is right for a BW to be with a WM? How stupid is this, just because someone from your race fell in love or wants to be with a person of another race it doesn't make him/her a disgrace to their own. It is funny when women from a race say something like that and then you see them saying that men from other races prefer them, etc. You kind of feel backstabbed to see BM with WW and that makes you behave less human around them. What if an ir bw's car got stolen? Would you call the police?
Those IRBM will have female family members who will love and stand by them and maybe tolerate the non-BW. It is to those BW the IRBM should turn to for help, no other BW.
BW have less dating/marrying options than other races of women, because of racism and white supremacy. BM know this, so they know every time they choose to marry or date out, they are making life harder for BW in general, nit just emotionally but financially.
Other races of women have access to their own men and to BM too. But BM know that BW don't have equal access to these outside men and that BW are dependent on BM romantically in way other women are not as dependent on their men.
Asian women can easily get white men, WW can easily get white, black and asian men. The only women left out of the loop are BW... BM know that their high IR effects BW's marriage rates and that non-BM are not racing in to to help BW find love.
BM know this and BW know this. So there is always that sense of betrayal when BM join in with the racism.

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#2271 Sep 4, 2013
Mary_ M wrote:
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So it's bad for a BM to be with a WW, but it is right for a BW to be with a WM? How stupid is this, just because someone from your race fell in love or wants to be with a person of another race it doesn't make him/her a disgrace to their own. It is funny when women from a race say something like that and then you see them saying that men from other races prefer them, etc. You kind of feel backstabbed to see BM with WW and that makes you behave less human around them. What if an ir bw's car got stolen? Would you call the police?
Why do you think BW feel back stabbed by IRBM? Do you think WW feel back stabbed by IRWM? And if not, why do you think they don't feel that way? Does white men's IR impact the same way on WW dating chances, as BM's IR impacts on BW???
Time is money

Los Angeles, CA

#2272 Sep 4, 2013
There are more pressing issues to worry about than how women choose to wear their hair. Not every woman with hair extensions or weave is self-hating. I have seen women who will wear their natural hair most times and will occassionally flat iron their hair and the next day add hair extensions for length. The next week, they willchoose to wear their hair kinky. And the next month, they will curl it. Are they self-hating? This is petty and has pointless arguments. People choose to dress up and wear their hair however they feel. WHAT MATTERS IS HOW THEY CARRY THEMSELVES.

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#2273 Sep 4, 2013
BL-P wrote:
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Yesterday, I saw a pretty black woman with her own hair.
And guess what, her behaviour and attitude was that of a woman who enjoys her femininity and behaved like a lady.
I walked up to her and she was so polite and had a very cordial conversation with me.
I asked her how long has been natural, she told me, she decided to return to her natural beauty because when she is in a serious relationship and wouldn't want her daughter growing at a tender age thinking that what is part of her, is what she should hate an have to change about her. She basically wants her daughter to love herself in every way.
In a nutshell, black women are fking up the minds of their daughters at an early stage in development. This goes directly with my statement, that black women are the worst stewards of children.
Black women are responsible for the fked up little black female hwores you see walking and selling arse all day long. Now black women are uplifting twerking as a new found heritage and are telling their little girls, that their greatest asset is embedded in their arse and now we have little girls being filmed by black women twerking an posting it on social media websites and see nothing wrong with it.
Smh.
You see no other group of women doing this, but a black woman.
Do you think white, Hispanic and Asian men are as open to IR with BW, as BM are open to IR with white, Hispanic and Asian women?
Time is money

Los Angeles, CA

#2274 Sep 5, 2013
Flat ironed hair must mean self hate too. It is "straight" hair. Get over this hair weave stuff. It's petty. What about keeping young black people from killing each other.

Level 8

Since: May 08

Pacific Northwest

#2277 Sep 5, 2013
Shalimarr wrote:
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It is a dumb way of seeking acceptance. These women are trying to shorten the distance between them and other races of women. Trying to create a physical commonalities. Trying to be LESS Black and more ambiguous like a latina, deeply tanned Spanish woman.

They think they can brainwash these other races of women into thinking that the hair actually grows from their heads and they don't grow nappy hair.
Wow! Very deep - and provocative, Shalimarr.
I don't come from a family of weave-wearers so the subject is something of a mystery to me.

You certainly seem to have given it a lot of thought.

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