Blacks have Never written Any Beautif...

Blacks have Never written Any Beautiful Music.......

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Marsa

United States

#1 Sep 30, 2013
For centuries whites and Asians have been writing beautiful Classical music, Symphonies and Operas. Blacks have never written a single piece of music than be called beautiful.

Why is that?
Tony

Baltimore, MD

#2 Sep 30, 2013
Beethoven was black.
Marsa

United States

#3 Sep 30, 2013
Also I should point out that all musical instruments used in performing Classical music and Symphonies were created by whites and Asians.
None by blacks.

Why?
Tony

Gwynn Oak, MD

#4 Sep 30, 2013
Marsa wrote:
Also I should point out that all musical instruments used in performing Classical music and Symphonies were created by whites and Asians.
None by blacks.
Why?
Drum and a lot of percussion instruments have roots from African Countries.

Fa-Fa-Fa-Failed. Fa-Fa-Fa-Faaaaaaailed.

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Since: Jun 08

Oakland

#5 Sep 30, 2013
I love it when faux classical music lovers create threads like this. They obviously know very little about classical music to make such glaring errors.

'Introduction: Bridgetower Sonata Was Renamed for Kreutzer

The Beethoven Sonata for Violin and Piano No. 9 in A Minor, Op. 47, now called the Kreutzer Sonata, was originally dedicated to the Black violin virtuoso George Augustus Polgreen Bridgetower. He is profiled at AfriClassical.com . Beethoven accompanied him on piano at the work's premiere in Vienna in 1803. Before the sonata could be published, a personal disagreement with Bridgetower led Beethoven to substitute the name of another violinist, Rodolphe Kreutzer.'

http://africlassical.blogspot.com/2007/10/geo...

http://chevalierdesaintgeorges.homestead.com/

http://www.wqxr.org/ #!/story/266404-timeline-histo ry-black-classical-musicians/

http://www.chevalierdesaintgeorge.com/bio_ful...

One last note. Before you come back bashing and challenging, KNOW that I have a music degree, k?
Marsa

United States

#6 Sep 30, 2013
NotSoDivineMsM wrote:
I love it when faux classical music lovers create threads like this. They obviously know very little about classical music to make such glaring errors.
'Introduction: Bridgetower Sonata Was Renamed for Kreutzer
The Beethoven Sonata for Violin and Piano No. 9 in A Minor, Op. 47, now called the Kreutzer Sonata, was originally dedicated to the Black violin virtuoso George Augustus Polgreen Bridgetower. He is profiled at AfriClassical.com .
Umm. So what? We are discussing BLACKS not mulattos!! Anyway...

Beethoven wrote and dedicated a song to George Bridgetower who was of mullato Polish - West Indian.

Later when Beethoven grew to dislike the uncouth Bridgetower he wrote across the title page "Sonata per uno mulaticco lunattico"
(Sonata for a crazy mulatto).

Bridgetower died in poverty, the woman who witnessed his death signing her name on his death certificate with a cross. He is buried today in Kensal Green cemetery, just off the A40 flyover west of London - his name forgotten.

And the violin virtuoso in Paris to whom Beethoven sent the sonata? Rudolphe Kreutzer, whose name adorns the greatest Violin Sonata Beethoven ever composed: the Kreutzer Sonata.

So much for your "music degree"

Snickers
STAG_R_LEE

Scottsdale, AZ

#7 Sep 30, 2013
Scott Joplin wrote several operas, but they were rarely performed due, primarily, to race relations during that time. In any case, Maple Leaf Rag and various other songs composed by Joplin are classics.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scott_Joplin
.
Jelly Roll Morton
A prodigious musician, song writer and performer.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jelly_Roll_Morto...
.
I'd list others, but it doesn't take much to blow OP out of the water.

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Since: Jun 08

Oakland

#8 Sep 30, 2013
Marsa wrote:
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Umm. So what? We are discussing BLACKS not mulattos!! Anyway...
Beethoven wrote and dedicated a song to George Bridgetower who was of mullato Polish - West Indian.
Later when Beethoven grew to dislike the uncouth Bridgetower he wrote across the title page "Sonata per uno mulaticco lunattico"
(Sonata for a crazy mulatto).
Bridgetower died in poverty, the woman who witnessed his death signing her name on his death certificate with a cross. He is buried today in Kensal Green cemetery, just off the A40 flyover west of London - his name forgotten.
And the violin virtuoso in Paris to whom Beethoven sent the sonata? Rudolphe Kreutzer, whose name adorns the greatest Violin Sonata Beethoven ever composed: the Kreutzer Sonata.
So much for your "music degree"
Snickers
You can judge your own posts as often as you like but you have NOT addressed your false claim that 'blacks' have never contributed to classical music. Many black composers and performers have contributed to the genre and still do. I can list many. The links attest to it. You can continue to judge your and my posts but it doesn't change the facts. Still sayin'.......:)

And, speaking of composers who died poverty stricken and buried in pauper's graves, Mozart was one. Bach would have died an obscure composer if Mendelssohn hadn't resurrected one of his works and put him back in the spotlight. Although neither of these composers was 'black' it is just an example of how tastes change over time.

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Oakland

#9 Sep 30, 2013
STAG_R_LEE wrote:
Scott Joplin wrote several operas, but they were rarely performed due, primarily, to race relations during that time. In any case, Maple Leaf Rag and various other songs composed by Joplin are classics.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scott_Joplin
.
Jelly Roll Morton
A prodigious musician, song writer and performer.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jelly_Roll_Morto...
.
I'd list others, but it doesn't take much to blow OP out of the water.
I know we don't always agree but on this we are definitely aligned. Thanks, Stag, and have a great day!!!!!!!!
Marsa

United States

#10 Sep 30, 2013
STAG_R_LEE wrote:
Scott Joplin wrote several operas, but they were rarely performed due, primarily, to race relations during that time. In any case, Maple Leaf Rag and various other songs composed by Joplin are classics.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scott_Joplin
.
Jelly Roll Morton
A prodigious musician, song writer and performer.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jelly_Roll_Morto...
.
I'd list others, but it doesn't take much to blow OP out of the water.
LOL

So you want to classify Joplin's music as BEAUTIFUL?

Jelly Roll Morton composed BEAUTIFUL music?

Hahahaha

OH MY!

Snickers
Marsa

United States

#11 Sep 30, 2013
You blacks are getting angry for no reason. Quit Googling "black composers" because that is not the TOPIC!

I guess you people don't know what 'BEAUTIFUL MUSIC' sounds like.

SMH

Puerto Rica Chica
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Since: Sep 13

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#12 Sep 30, 2013
I live in the Bronx & a black man wanted to write a song about me & wanted me to have his baby but I told my older cousin who's name is Talio that & my older cousin who's name is Talio beat the black man up.

“MEOW”

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Kathmandu Nepal

#14 Sep 30, 2013
Truth Teller wrote:
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This is the same crew that was trying to tell me the difference between "Big Willy Style" and Handel's "Messiah" is merely a matter of opinion.
Ok, Truth aka Doc and goodness knows how many other aliases, list your favourite classical music compositions, k?

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Since: Jun 08

Oakland

#15 Sep 30, 2013
Marsa wrote:
You blacks are getting angry for no reason. Quit Googling "black composers" because that is not the TOPIC!
I guess you people don't know what 'BEAUTIFUL MUSIC' sounds like.
SMH
Nice try, Marsa, but I am not black so that argument falls rather short of the mark. Let's see your list of classical wonders, shall we? Let's see how much about the genre YOU actually know.......:)

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Since: Jun 08

Oakland

#16 Sep 30, 2013
Truth Teller wrote:
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This is the same crew that was trying to tell me the difference between "Big Willy Style" and Handel's "Messiah" is merely a matter of opinion.
You like to twist things out of context, don't you? Why don't you post what was actually said? I would run circles around you in the area of classical composers and compositions. Let's start with this little ditty, shall we? Who was the first composer to write for Cristofori's invention? Marsa can try her/his hand at this also. Let's see how much you two actually know about classical music........:)
Marsa

United States

#20 Sep 30, 2013
NotSoDivineMsM wrote:
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You like to twist things out of context, don't you? Why don't you post what was actually said? I would run circles around you in the area of classical composers and compositions. Let's start with this little ditty, shall we? Who was the first composer to write for Cristofori's invention? Marsa can try her/his hand at this also. Let's see how much you two actually know about classical music........:)
So I guess you concede that there are no black composers of beautiful classical music, symphonies or operas so you deflect to "Cristofori's invention" who was also NOT BLACK?

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Since: Jun 08

Oakland

#21 Sep 30, 2013
Marsa wrote:
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So I guess you concede that there are no black composers of beautiful classical music, symphonies or operas so you deflect to "Cristofori's invention" who was also NOT BLACK?
No concession at all. How familiar are you with the compositions of black composers or is your main reason for creating this thread to bash and trash the accomplishments of published black composers? As I said to another poster, beauty is in the eye (or ear, in this case) of the beholder. What you may find sublime, others may not. It's purely a matter of taste. But to try to negate the accomplishments of black composers is rather sad on your part. Just sayin'. Now, if you know so much about beautiful classical music, answer the questions or post your favourite compositions.

Samuel Colridge-Taylor - Romance in G for Violin and Orchestra

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Since: Jun 08

Oakland

#22 Sep 30, 2013
GrouchoMarxist wrote:
<quoted text>No you can't, dopey.
Have you EVER posted ANYTHING that wasn't dead wrong?
Actually I post more right things than YOU do under ALL of your silly aliases combined. Now BROADCAST your dumb stumpy behind back to your corner, k?

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Since: Jun 08

Oakland

#23 Sep 30, 2013
Log in - Log out Groucho aka Stewie aka Oh Really and aliases too many to mention and RATE and HATE away, k? DAFBB

and quit following me into every thread I post in and accusing me of being obsessed with your crippled crazy, both feet nailed to the floor, behind...smh...

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Since: Jun 08

Oakland

#24 Sep 30, 2013
More Samuel Colridge-Taylor

Coleridge-Taylor-piano quintet Op.1- Gm- Mov.II- LARGETTO



for goodness sakes, educate yourselves....smh......

William Grant Still - Symphony no. 2 (1/4) 1937

http://www.youtube.com/watch...

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