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Beer Belly Bobs Ghost

Springfield, NJ

#71 Aug 6, 2013
Sinajuavi wrote:
<quoted text>Google Vinca, Cucuteni-Tripolye, etc., dumbass.

As if you don't know about these... as I linked a whole passel of articles.

Liar.
Makes you mad to be questioned and/or doubted huh? This is a sign of insecurity. A thin veneer of intellect covering a deep chasm of self doubt.
yep

Hamilton, Canada

#72 Aug 6, 2013
Africans taught ancient Greeks how to steal.
Beer Belly Bobs Ghost

Springfield, NJ

#73 Aug 6, 2013
Sinajuavi wrote:
<quoted text>Oh but you babble in vain because I do know that populations can change, but nonetheless the bulk of most populations remain indigenous despite immigration.

In the case of Egypt, Lower Egyptians, who were partly Eurasians already, and assorted immigrants (Persians, Hebrews, Hyksos, Greeks, etc.) did increasingly mix with Upper Egyptians over time.

When you say “black” with the USA meaning, then a ¼ African Egyptian would be “black” to us. In any case, clearly Egypt was mixed, though I think it is clear that the civilization emerged, arose, evolved, in Upper Egypt among mostly black people. Lower Egypt assimilated to this civilization, very early, with unification.

While Lower Egypt had been mixed African-Eurasian for a long time, I think it is obvious from the archaeological data that Upper Egyptian Neolithics were of African (“black”) type.

And it's not like they are not black today. I've seen on videos and met in person a lot of Egyptians who look like they're part African. I'm told that if you go to the city of Aswan, nearly everyone is black.
indigenous populations have been replaced by outsiders many times in history as far back as the Neanderthal. Even in recent history do we see this both in the Americas and Australia. And yes, I have been to Aswan as well as Luxor and the people there are black for the most part. You're not telling me anything here.
obamaluvswhitedi ck

Toronto, Canada

#74 Aug 6, 2013
yep wrote:
Africans taught ancient Greeks how to steal.
I didn't know they had hubcaps and tv's back then!

Sinajuavi
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Since: Nov 11

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#75 Aug 6, 2013
Beer Belly Bobs Ghost wrote:
<quoted text>
Makes you mad to be questioned and/or doubted huh? This is a sign of insecurity. A thin veneer of intellect covering a deep chasm of self doubt.
You tedious twit, I am amused by your uneducated attempts to discuss things about which you know nothing.

Don't attempt to psychoanalyze me, boy. You haven't the education for that either.

Now go read a book.

Sinajuavi
Level 6

Since: Nov 11

Location hidden

#76 Aug 6, 2013
Beer Belly Bobs Ghost wrote:
<quoted text>indigenous populations have been replaced by outsiders many times in history as far back as the Neanderthal. Even in recent history do we see this both in the Americas and Australia. And yes, I have been to Aswan as well as Luxor and the people there are black for the most part. You're not telling me anything here.
And you're making no point. You cannot state what happened in a place by what happened somewhere else.

The fact is, Eurasians were in Lower Egypt 30,000 years ago. Does that give you a hissy fit, due to your deep-rooted self-hatred, having inculcated a bit too much white racism?

Gotta prove that the Vikings were black in order to have any self-esteem?

Typical Afronazi.
Beer Belly Bobs Ghost

New York, NY

#77 Aug 6, 2013
Sinajuavi wrote:
<quoted text>
You tedious twit, I am amused by your uneducated attempts to discuss things about which you know nothing.
Don't attempt to psychoanalyze me, boy. You haven't the education for that either.
Now go read a book.
Allow me to be the first one to break it to you and tell you that psychoanalyzing you requires no education at all.

None what so ever.

:)
Beer Belly Bobs Ghost

New York, NY

#78 Aug 6, 2013
Sinajuavi wrote:
<quoted text>
And you're making no point. You cannot state what happened in a place by what happened somewhere else.
The fact is, Eurasians were in Lower Egypt 30,000 years ago. Does that give you a hissy fit, due to your deep-rooted self-hatred, having inculcated a bit too much white racism?
Gotta prove that the Vikings were black in order to have any self-esteem?
Typical Afronazi.
Sorry (and I truly am) but you're not convincing me of anything other then the fact that you are a complete and utter fool. But you're welcome to keep trying...

Play again?

:)

“Sombrero Galaxy”

Level 8

Since: Jan 10

I'm An Illegal Alien

#79 Aug 7, 2013
TBARRY47 wrote:
I'm sure this will get the most thumbs down of every comment under your post but the Phoenicians were black. If you have a Bible and look in the Table of Nations in Genesis it will allude to this fact. Under the Table of Nations in the Bible they descend from Canaan but are called Sidonians by the Bible. They still identified by their tribal name of Canaan. Canaan in the Bible was the fourth son of Ham/Khem, the father of the black races of Africa. The Sidonians/Canaanites were actually called Phoenicians by the Greeks because it is the Sidonians who gave the Greeks the Alphabet, which I think is a large part of why people don't want to believe they were black. They were also the ancestors of the Carthaginians.
So they weren't Aryans. Moreover Homer and Herodotus said that that region of the world at that time was inhabited by Kushites well before they began mixing with Greeks and Romans. There are places in the Middle East with cities that begin with the suffix Kush like Kushistan where the Iraq/Iran war was fought and the Hindu Kush mountain range in Afghanistan. The Hamitic/Black races were all considered Kushitic back then. As far as what language they spoke, according to the Bible they were Hamitic but, spoke a Semitic language. But Semitic, Kushitic, Arabic and Egyptian are all part of the same language family.
So, the ANCIENT Phoenicians were black but after centuries of migration and integration, much like the Egyptians, Indians, Moors, Berbers, The Horn of Africa and the rest of the "Middle East" they have come to be classified as white to satisfy certain political, social, economic and racial agendas. And they were from pre-Semitic inhabitants of northern Palestine and Lebanon not Syria. You don't have to trust me, just look at all the relevant sources.
Try this website: It's a good place to start.
http://nelcg.org/news/wp-content/uploads …
Source(s):
Reading books.
The buybull never said that Ham was black or white. Nor is the buybull valid as evidence in this matter. The Phoenicians were not Canaanites nor were the latter black.

“Sombrero Galaxy”

Level 8

Since: Jan 10

I'm An Illegal Alien

#80 Aug 7, 2013
Sinajuavi wrote:
<quoted text>
Egyptian civilization began in Upper Egypt, among black people. But there were Eurasians already mixed in, in Lower Egypt, and throughout Egypt's long history it was a mixed society, long before the Greeks (Ptolemies) got there.
This should be self evident to people. It explains why the 18th dynasty( the dynasty of Akenaton, Nefertiti, and Tut) were so negorid while Ramses looked white. Tut's family came from Thebes and Ramses family came from the north.
Cossack

UK

#81 Aug 7, 2013
Beer Belly Bobs Ghost wrote:
<quoted text>Sorry (and I truly am) but you're not convincing me of anything other then the fact that you are a complete and utter fool. But you're welcome to keep trying...
Play again?
:)
Your self esteem issues continually drive you to find imaginary connections to glorious histories. Judging by the time you post, this is the sum total of your life isn't it? Let me make a suggestion. Let's assume your bogus facts had some substance historically instead of the masturbatory fantasies of a nobody (which they are) What on earth would it have to do with you in your dingy semen stained attic room?

Level 1

Since: Aug 13

Bronx, NY

#82 Aug 7, 2013
emperorjohn wrote:
<quoted text>
The buybull never said that Ham was black or white. Nor is the buybull valid as evidence in this matter. The Phoenicians were not Canaanites nor were the latter black.
"Phoenicia" is really a Classical Greek term used to refer to the region of the major Canaanite port towns, and does not correspond exactly to a cultural identity that would have been recognised by the Phoenicians themselves. It is uncertain to what extent the Phoenicians viewed themselves as a single ethnicity and nationality. Their civilization was organized in city-states, similar to ancient Greece.[5] However, in terms of archaeology, language, life style and religion, there is little to set the Phoenicians apart as markedly different from other Semitic cultures of Canaan. As Canaanites, they were unique in their remarkable seafaring achievements.

Level 1

Since: Aug 13

Bronx, NY

#83 Aug 7, 2013
TBARRY47 wrote:
<quoted text>
"Phoenicia" is really a Classical Greek term used to refer to the region of the major Canaanite port towns, and does not correspond exactly to a cultural identity that would have been recognised by the Phoenicians themselves. It is uncertain to what extent the Phoenicians viewed themselves as a single ethnicity and nationality. Their civilization was organized in city-states, similar to ancient Greece.[5] However, in terms of archaeology, language, life style and religion, there is little to set the Phoenicians apart as markedly different from other Semitic cultures of Canaan. As Canaanites, they were unique in their remarkable seafaring achievements.
According to the Table of Nations in Genesis 10 (verses 15-19), Canaan was the ancestor of the tribes who originally occupied the ancient Land of Canaan: all the territory from Sidon or Hamath in the north to Gaza in the southwest and Lasha in the southeast. This territory is roughly the areas of modern day Israel, the Palestinian Territories, Lebanon, western Jordan, and western Syria. Canaan's firstborn son was Sidon, who shares his name with the Phoenician city of Sidon in present-day Lebanon.[1] His second son was Heth. Canaan's descendants, according to the Hebrew Bible, include:
Sidonians, i.e. the Phoenicians[2][3]
Hittites, children of Heth
Jebusites
Amorites
Girgashites
Hivites
Arkites
Sinites
Arvadites
Zemarites
Hamathites
According to traditional Ethiopian histories, Canaan's son Arwadi (lit. "the Arvadite") and his wife Entela crossed from Asia into Ethiopia in 2101 BC, and the Qemant tribe were said to be descended from their son, Anayer. There is further an Ethiopian tradition that two other Canaanite tribes, viz. the Sinites and Zemarites, also entered Ethiopia at the time it was ruled by the Kingdom of Kush, and became the Shanqella and Weyto peoples, respectively.[4]
The Persian historian Muhammad ibn Jarir al-Tabari (c. 915) recounted a tradition that the wife of Canaan was named Arsal, a daughter of Batawil son of Tiras, and that she bore him the "Blacks, Nubians, Fezzan, Zanj, Zaghawah, and all the peoples of the Sudan."[5]
The German historian Johannes Aventinus (fl. c. 1525) recorded a legend that Canaan's sons the "Arkite" and the "Hamathite" first settled in the area of Greece, and gave their names to the regions of Arcadia and Emathia.
Leroy

Dearborn Heights, MI

#84 Aug 7, 2013
LMAO!!!!!
Jeff

Framingham, MA

#85 Aug 7, 2013
TBARRY47 wrote:
<quoted text>
According to the Table of Nations in Genesis 10 (verses 15-19), Canaan was the ancestor of the tribes who originally occupied the ancient Land of Canaan: all the territory from Sidon or Hamath in the north to Gaza in the southwest and Lasha in the southeast. This territory is roughly the areas of modern day Israel, the Palestinian Territories, Lebanon, western Jordan, and western Syria. Canaan's firstborn son was Sidon, who shares his name with the Phoenician city of Sidon in present-day Lebanon.[1] His second son was Heth. Canaan's descendants, according to the Hebrew Bible, include:
Sidonians, i.e. the Phoenicians[2][3]
Hittites, children of Heth
Jebusites
Amorites
Girgashites
Hivites
Arkites
Sinites
Arvadites
Zemarites
Hamathites
According to traditional Ethiopian histories, Canaan's son Arwadi (lit. "the Arvadite") and his wife Entela crossed from Asia into Ethiopia in 2101 BC, and the Qemant tribe were said to be descended from their son, Anayer. There is further an Ethiopian tradition that two other Canaanite tribes, viz. the Sinites and Zemarites, also entered Ethiopia at the time it was ruled by the Kingdom of Kush, and became the Shanqella and Weyto peoples, respectively.[4]
The Persian historian Muhammad ibn Jarir al-Tabari (c. 915) recounted a tradition that the wife of Canaan was named Arsal, a daughter of Batawil son of Tiras, and that she bore him the "Blacks, Nubians, Fezzan, Zanj, Zaghawah, and all the peoples of the Sudan."[5]
The German historian Johannes Aventinus (fl. c. 1525) recorded a legend that Canaan's sons the "Arkite" and the "Hamathite" first settled in the area of Greece, and gave their names to the regions of Arcadia and Emathia.
Bible mythical nonsense. According to historical and scientific evidence the ancient people of the Middle East were and still are similar to modern Middle Eastern people today both genetically and phenotypically.

Faces of the ancient Middle East:
Reconstruction of a 5000 year old Iranian woman:
www.kavehfarrokh.com/iranica/the-women-of-per...

Reconstruction of a 2500 years old Anatolian woman:
www.odt.co.nz/campus/university-otago/115932/...

Reconstruction of the ancient Hebrews:
www.timesofisrael.com/meet-delilah-tv-series-...
Beer Belly Bobs Ghost

Springfield, NJ

#86 Aug 7, 2013
Cossack wrote:
<quoted text> Your self esteem issues continually drive you to find imaginary connections to glorious histories. Judging by the time you post, this is the sum total of your life isn't it? Let me make a suggestion. Let's assume your bogus facts had some substance historically instead of the masturbatory fantasies of a nobody (which they are) What on earth would it have to do with you in your dingy semen stained attic room?
Well I'm sorry if my opinions have the power to affect you in such a childish way (no not really sorry) but it is what it is. You neither strike me as an educated person nor anyone with any sort of influence over anything beyond the click of your mouse so giving you any kind of worthwhile answer is pointless.

:)

Sinajuavi
Level 6

Since: Nov 11

Location hidden

#87 Aug 7, 2013
Beer Belly Bobs Ghost wrote:
<quoted text>Allow me to be the first one to break it to you and tell you that psychoanalyzing you requires no education at all.
None what so ever.
:)
Let me break this truth to you, boy: you have no education, don't know what you're talking about, and will be punked & debunked on EVERY point of nonsense you bring into my presence, as is occurring already.

Pissy little bitxh, can't sustain a racist Afronazi argument around me, can you, boy? LOL...

Try that smartass in my face and see what happens, puto. I really f'ing hate racists...

Sinajuavi
Level 6

Since: Nov 11

Location hidden

#88 Aug 7, 2013
Beer Belly Bobs Ghost wrote:
<quoted text>Sorry (and I truly am) but you're not convincing me of anything other then the fact that you are a complete and utter fool. But you're welcome to keep trying...
Play again?
:)
Do you even remember what the argument is, halfwit?

I've seen this syndrome many times online. Some bigmouthed punk comes on talking $hit, runs into me---intelligent, erudite, educated---and then contorts with inferiority complex, as you are now doing.

Forget what we're arguing about boy? All you're talking about is me... you pathetic and useless twerp.

Sinajuavi
Level 6

Since: Nov 11

Location hidden

#89 Aug 7, 2013
TBARRY47 wrote:
<quoted text>
"Phoenicia" is really a Classical Greek term used to refer to the region of the major Canaanite port towns, and does not correspond exactly to a cultural identity that would have been recognised by the Phoenicians themselves. It is uncertain to what extent the Phoenicians viewed themselves as a single ethnicity and nationality. Their civilization was organized in city-states, similar to ancient Greece.[5] However, in terms of archaeology, language, life style and religion, there is little to set the Phoenicians apart as markedly different from other Semitic cultures of Canaan. As Canaanites, they were unique in their remarkable seafaring achievements.
This is generally true of the Mideast at that time, that ethnicity was not strictly bounded or defined as we tend to do. There were an assortment of tribes with varying degrees of linguistic similarity.

It is when a people become settled and civilized, as represented for the Hebrews by the anointment of Saul as their first king, that their ethnicity becomes more circumscribed and definite.

Hebrews, Phoenicians, and Canaanites all were at one time the same people, essentially, the Semites of the Levant.

Sinajuavi
Level 6

Since: Nov 11

Location hidden

#90 Aug 7, 2013
TBARRY47 wrote:
<quoted text>
According to the Table of Nations in Genesis 10 (verses 15-19), Canaan was the ancestor of the tribes who originally occupied the ancient Land of Canaan: all the territory from Sidon or Hamath in the north to Gaza in the southwest and Lasha in the southeast. This territory is roughly the areas of modern day Israel, the Palestinian Territories, Lebanon, western Jordan, and western Syria. Canaan's firstborn son was Sidon, who shares his name with the Phoenician city of Sidon in present-day Lebanon.[1] His second son was Heth. Canaan's descendants, according to the Hebrew Bible, include:
Sidonians, i.e. the Phoenicians[2][3]
Hittites, children of Heth
Jebusites
Amorites
Girgashites
Hivites
Arkites
Sinites
Arvadites
Zemarites
Hamathites
According to traditional Ethiopian histories, Canaan's son Arwadi (lit. "the Arvadite") and his wife Entela crossed from Asia into Ethiopia in 2101 BC, and the Qemant tribe were said to be descended from their son, Anayer. There is further an Ethiopian tradition that two other Canaanite tribes, viz. the Sinites and Zemarites, also entered Ethiopia at the time it was ruled by the Kingdom of Kush, and became the Shanqella and Weyto peoples, respectively.[4]
The Persian historian Muhammad ibn Jarir al-Tabari (c. 915) recounted a tradition that the wife of Canaan was named Arsal, a daughter of Batawil son of Tiras, and that she bore him the "Blacks, Nubians, Fezzan, Zanj, Zaghawah, and all the peoples of the Sudan."[5]
The German historian Johannes Aventinus (fl. c. 1525) recorded a legend that Canaan's sons the "Arkite" and the "Hamathite" first settled in the area of Greece, and gave their names to the regions of Arcadia and Emathia.
Ancient mythology is not reliable.

Medieval English writers made all manner of outlandish claims regarding the Britons... that they'd come from Trojans was a favorite story.

And they had Arthur fighting with the Greeks, Romans, and so on...

None of this is to be believed. Nor is Biblical geneology, wherre they are attempting to explain the origins of all the various peoples known to them, and they are MAKING $HIT UP!

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