GOP has given up on black vote

GOP has given up on black vote

There are 732 comments on the Palladium-Item story from Oct 10, 2010, titled GOP has given up on black vote. In it, Palladium-Item reports that:

WASHINGTON - This has been such an unpredictable political year that it's hard to have confidence in any of the forecasts for November.

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__oh-Really_

“There's no point toany of this”

Since: Oct 10

I'm done

#365 Oct 14, 2010
Doby wrote:
I once heard a story of a white registered Democrat running around calling Black Democrats n---r's and coons. Not to worry, the story was bullshyt.
...as ALL your posts are.
http://www.topix.com/forum/afam/TJQAL88C4LONU...
Don't foget, doobs,
Reading someone's post, and commenting ABOUT it to someone ELSE, without actually REPLYING to it,
.....proves you've FAILED at "ignoring" them.
(for future reference.)

“bar0ckalypse n0w”

Since: Mar 10

Location hidden

#366 Oct 14, 2010
Chewie T wrote:
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Liberals love misery. Its good for business.
Exactly.

“Everybody Dies...”

Level 1

Since: Jan 10

...But not Everybody Lives.

#367 Oct 14, 2010
Dr-Zaius wrote:
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I am actually a registered Democrat that voted for Clinton and Gore.
I have become severely disillusioned with the progressives of both parties. The Democrat party has been subverted by European socialists like George Soros and the Republicans with Vicente Fox and the open borders, cheap labour crowd.
The only PR problem the fiscally conservative folks have comes from the radical left. I can see much of their propaganda in your posts, even though I get the feeling you are probably a moderate just as I am.
Calling the Tea Party folks racist is absurd. Being against entitlement programs that are bankrupting our children's future is not racist. It is responsible.
Social justice is not as important as being strong enough to enforce social justice in the grand scheme of things, IMO. You cannot be a world superpower without a damn big stick to back it up. That is where Democrats fall flat. They have lofty goals with no way to finance them, except credit from Red China.
All they have left is to call fiscally conservatives, racist.
I have to agree for the most part. Democrat? I would've never guessed based on your posts, that one's on me perhaps, although what you're reading in my posts is more aimed at others on this thread. I would say that I have yet to see a perfect system, what sounds good to some will sound like rubbish to others, depending on what side of the ecomonical line you fall on. I'm kind of a pick and choose kind of person in all areas of life, so I can't always put myself in one box, and what I believe in today may differ from tomorrow. Healthcare reform is needed imo, but I'm against rampant spending, it just makes sense to run a country like you would your home. I can't buy what I can't afford. So yes, I do agree. But I don't want to see people get left behind, as the ugly act is that we do have people lagging, and some are sincerely hurting and need a lift, and others...well you address them quite often.
Mr - Power

Ashburn, VA

#368 Oct 14, 2010
Eristotle wrote:
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I worked for minimum wage for about six weeks, when minimum wage was $1.20/hr.
After learning my duties I earned regular raises because I provided a valuable asset to my employer.
I've been self-employed for more than 25 years now, and many of the people I've hired for minimum wage, or sometimes a little more, were rarely worth that, and showed no desire to improve. I fired them.
You have a choice, you want:
welfare, unemployment, big gov't controlling your life...vote Democrat
jobs, self-respect, personal freedom and responsibility...vote Republican. Makes perfect sense to me...what are you missing?
If only people worked for fun and not had to make a living, I guess $1.20 an hour would be great....lol..In 2010, where could ANY American make a living on $1.20 an hour ??? See, conservatives don't get it....this is not about handouts, but making a LIVING....

Working your way up is great, but do you want me to believe that paying somebody MINIMUM WAGE is worth them breaking their backs for you or any other company only to still live in poverty ???

What am I missing ?? Apparently you live in your own world where you don't see millions of people unemployed, millions more UNDERemployed, millions without healthcare, millions of folks who lost their homes that they WORKED for, etc... while rich CEO's line their pockets.....hmmm I think I'll vote democrat, at least only 85% of them are only sold out to corporations, while 100% of republicans are....
Doby

Sacramento, CA

#369 Oct 14, 2010
Mr - Power wrote:
<quoted text>
If only people worked for fun and not had to make a living, I guess $1.20 an hour would be great....lol..In 2010, where could ANY American make a living on $1.20 an hour ??? See, conservatives don't get it....this is not about handouts, but making a LIVING....
Working your way up is great, but do you want me to believe that paying somebody MINIMUM WAGE is worth them breaking their backs for you or any other company only to still live in poverty ???
What am I missing ?? Apparently you live in your own world where you don't see millions of people unemployed, millions more UNDERemployed, millions without healthcare, millions of folks who lost their homes that they WORKED for, etc... while rich CEO's line their pockets.....hmmm I think I'll vote democrat, at least only 85% of them are only sold out to corporations, while 100% of republicans are....
Well said!
Saul Alinsky

Pittsburgh, PA

#370 Oct 14, 2010
Drunken Masta wrote:
<quoted text>
I have to agree for the most part. Democrat? I would've never guessed based on your posts, that one's on me perhaps, although what you're reading in my posts is more aimed at others on this thread. I would say that I have yet to see a perfect system, what sounds good to some will sound like rubbish to others, depending on what side of the ecomonical line you fall on. I'm kind of a pick and choose kind of person in all areas of life, so I can't always put myself in one box, and what I believe in today may differ from tomorrow. Healthcare reform is needed imo, but I'm against rampant spending, it just makes sense to run a country like you would your home. I can't buy what I can't afford. So yes, I do agree. But I don't want to see people get left behind, as the ugly act is that we do have people lagging, and some are sincerely hurting and need a lift, and others...well you address them quite often.
I found your last sentence interesting. Let me ask, if I may... do you believe that government (read taxpayers) largesse has improved the lot of the poor or, as I firmly believed, kept them in a state of stunted personal growth? You know, the old saying... teach to fish versus giving a fish...

I believe we can see the results of "enabling" those "lagging" in any ghetto/inner city today. I also believe these programs have failed miserably. And finally, I believe that simple human nature tells us that if you want more of something, subsidize it (read on the dole). If you want less of something (read prosperity), tax it.

Chewie T

“I'm BACK, Baby!”

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#371 Oct 14, 2010
Mr - Power wrote:
<quoted text>
If only people worked for fun and not had to make a living, I guess $1.20 an hour would be great....lol..In 2010, where could ANY American make a living on $1.20 an hour ??? See, conservatives don't get it....this is not about handouts, but making a LIVING.
Do you lack reading comprehension? He said he made $1.20 an hour YEARS ago when it was the minimum wage, not NOW. Stop changing the facts around to suit your argument.
Mr - Power

Ashburn, VA

#372 Oct 14, 2010
serfs up wrote:
<quoted text> There are many people over the years who have begged to clean the government side of our nation up. To no avail. The taxes keep rising and the politicians to stay in power gave more and more people benefits. Maybe you have an "in" with the politicians at every level of government. Clean it up. And the pressure will be much reduced. On us all.
The reason its so hard to "clean up" the gov't is because MOST politicans are sold out to rich corporate CEO's who throw them money to keep average folks at their beck and call....The way of the capitalist system....Taxes rise on average americans, but these rich folks continue to keep their tax breaks while STILL not hiring folks....Sorry, but unless you can throw a couple million dollars at some politicans, I can't see anybody cleaning anything...

Chewie T

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#373 Oct 14, 2010
Doby wrote:
<quoted text>
Well said!
Bull Sh!t. He clearly implied the guy was talking about making $1.20 an hour in 2010.

Dr-Zaius

Since: Aug 10

Fort Lauderdale, FL

#374 Oct 14, 2010
Doby wrote:
I once heard a story of a white registered Democrat running around calling Black Democrats n---r's and coons. Not to worry, the story was bullshyt.
Racism and the Democrat party are not mutually exclusive. Robert Byrd comes to mind.

You lot rely on the race card to dismiss your opponents. While this works with mindless racists that hate based solely on colour, doing it to someone like me with a valid argument just makes me the victor.

Not that you could ever touch my infallible logic in the first place.
Mr - Power

Ashburn, VA

#375 Oct 14, 2010
Eristotle wrote:
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I'd post links showing how lower taxes increase gov't revenue...but doing so never convinces an ideologue.
Why do people always assume corporations are owned and operated exclusively by Republicans?
Is that in the talking point memos somewhere?
Regardless of whether the CEO of a corporation is Republican or Democrat, they have a fiduciary responsibilty to the company to make a profit.
CEO's that don't are soon called "unemployed".
Cutting taxes for the rich only works short term, because there will be a high growth spurt of hiring for a few years,(which is great), but in the long term its not great because eventually it will take more money (taxes from the rich) to keep things in balance...Deregulation + low taxes for the rich = recession and depression...

Democrats are also sold out by CEO's...but the difference is that they act like they at least ACT like they care about the middle and working class folks...plus Sarah Palin, and other Tea Party candidates have shown me so much idocricy, I couldn't even consider voting Republican right now.....Even Nixon, Kissinger, etc and other noteworthy past republicans would be disappointed with what they would see today from the current GOP...

Making a profit is great, but exploiting those who are the ones who bring you profit in the first place.....NO....

Dr-Zaius

Since: Aug 10

Fort Lauderdale, FL

#376 Oct 14, 2010
Drunken Masta wrote:
<quoted text>
I have to agree for the most part. Democrat? I would've never guessed based on your posts, that one's on me perhaps, although what you're reading in my posts is more aimed at others on this thread. I would say that I have yet to see a perfect system, what sounds good to some will sound like rubbish to others, depending on what side of the ecomonical line you fall on. I'm kind of a pick and choose kind of person in all areas of life, so I can't always put myself in one box, and what I believe in today may differ from tomorrow. Healthcare reform is needed imo, but I'm against rampant spending, it just makes sense to run a country like you would your home. I can't buy what I can't afford. So yes, I do agree. But I don't want to see people get left behind, as the ugly act is that we do have people lagging, and some are sincerely hurting and need a lift, and others...well you address them quite often.
The way I see it prosperous people are the most generous. This has always held true. No one in the world can match what the United States does.

They did not even have a hand in Africa, yet they shoulder nearly all of the blame and send billions of dollars of aid there each year.

They are not the only recipients of United States generosity either.

Healthcare reform?

How about we stop the crazy lawsuits against everything medical? Some moron cut me off and I hit him at 4MPH and the three occupants got $10,000 each for literally nothing. The car did not even have any damage.

The costs are so high because of that BS. Slip and fall? True malpractice is probably a factor in a statical zero amount of cases, yet people are mining the doctors and hospitals for everything under the sun. They pass it on so we have no choice to buy insurance.. How much are some stitches really worth???

People are falling behind because we are spoiling them. The US has been on a steady decline since the Great Society began in the 30's.
Mr - Power

Ashburn, VA

#377 Oct 14, 2010
Chewie T wrote:
<quoted text>Bull Sh!t. He clearly implied the guy was talking about making $1.20 an hour in 2010.
Apparently thats what the GOP wants us to go back to, since now they want to abolish the minimum wage,(which was what he was referring to by the way, trying to prove that its ok to pay people slave wages)....See, how how stupid the GOP ideas are once a Democrat say the same words...lol

Dr-Zaius

Since: Aug 10

Fort Lauderdale, FL

#378 Oct 14, 2010
Mr - Power wrote:
<quoted text>
If only people worked for fun and not had to make a living, I guess $1.20 an hour would be great....lol..In 2010, where could ANY American make a living on $1.20 an hour ??? See, conservatives don't get it....this is not about handouts, but making a LIVING....
Working your way up is great, but do you want me to believe that paying somebody MINIMUM WAGE is worth them breaking their backs for you or any other company only to still live in poverty ???
What am I missing ?? Apparently you live in your own world where you don't see millions of people unemployed, millions more UNDERemployed, millions without healthcare, millions of folks who lost their homes that they WORKED for, etc... while rich CEO's line their pockets.....hmmm I think I'll vote democrat, at least only 85% of them are only sold out to corporations, while 100% of republicans are....
This is where you people fail.

If I was in a bad way I would go work somewhere for free to learn the trade and advance through merit.

My first job in the United States I made $3.35 an hour and brought home $90 a week. I ate quite a bit of noodles and had an antenna for TV. It lasted for a good two months.

The problem is the bulk of the poor have no merit. That is why they are in the position they are in. That is why liberals like you feel compelled to create things for them to do at societies expense or just outright pay them to stay out of your way.

The third world is not the way it is because of the whites. We let them in and they bring their problems.

Dr-Zaius

Since: Aug 10

Fort Lauderdale, FL

#379 Oct 14, 2010
Mr - Power wrote:
<quoted text>
Cutting taxes for the rich only works short term, because there will be a high growth spurt of hiring for a few years,(which is great), but in the long term its not great because eventually it will take more money (taxes from the rich) to keep things in balance...Deregulation + low taxes for the rich = recession and depression...
Democrats are also sold out by CEO's...but the difference is that they act like they at least ACT like they care about the middle and working class folks...plus Sarah Palin, and other Tea Party candidates have shown me so much idocricy, I couldn't even consider voting Republican right now.....Even Nixon, Kissinger, etc and other noteworthy past republicans would be disappointed with what they would see today from the current GOP...
Making a profit is great, but exploiting those who are the ones who bring you profit in the first place.....NO....
Evil CEO's and corporations, oh my. We should all fear the repressive corporations like Microsoft, that pay dividends to Americans and are among the most benevolent entities on the planet.

You socialists just do not get it. Exploit people? The evil corporations do not have whips and guns to keep the workers in line. Everyone has free will and feet. If you want to exist in modern society you must bring something to the table.
Glasnos

El Paso, TX

#380 Oct 14, 2010
Mr - Power wrote:
<quoted text>
Apparently thats what the GOP wants us to go back to, since now they want to abolish the minimum wage,(which was what he was referring to by the way, trying to prove that its ok to pay people slave wages)....See, how how stupid the GOP ideas are once a Democrat say the same words...lol
Well ... why don't we raise the minimum wage to $20 an hour, so it is enough to support a family?

Since: Nov 09

Harker Heights, TX

#381 Oct 14, 2010
jimmax wrote:
The GOP as done nothing to appeal for the black vote, they've only appointed a few token blacks to high positions and somehow think that is enough. If tey were serious they would do things like promote programs that encourage entrepreneurship in the black community and take a more proactive approach in convincing AA's that their political agenda can be a good thing for them. But they've done none of that. There are many conservative minded AA's out there, but most of them don't feel welcome in the Republican Party. The GOP in its present form has the image of being a bunch of angry whites, pizzed about government spending. Well I;m pizzed about government spending too, but the bulk of this spending wind up in the hands of well connected elite whites, not in welfare spending as so many of these angry whites seem to think.
Let's stop calling them AA's. 90% of them do not know anyone from Africa or could point out where Africa is on a map of the world. They are Americans. Let us stop giving the different races titles that seperate them from each other.

Since: Jan 10

Evanston, IL

#382 Oct 14, 2010
Dr-Zaius wrote:
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I do.
I also pay more in taxes than 90% of the country.
I am presently holding off on any capital expenditure and could stand to take on five more employees. I will be waiting for the results in November before committing a dime to anything.
Depending on the outcome, I may just move my entire operation to a more business friendly country.
Attacking the evil corporations and 'rich people' is silly as they are the ones that sign your paycheck. Penalize them you penalize yourself.
Corporations (just because they sign paychecks) don't have the right to poison the environment, get people sick and even worse, kill them. Many of them have never shown the ability to regulate themselves which is how they suffer penalties. I bet everything I own that you would think differently if you were suffocating from toxic fumes in Texas left over by BP in spite of the fact they've been fined many, many times.
Eristotle

Lebanon, IN

#383 Oct 14, 2010
Mr - Power wrote:
<quoted text>
If only people worked for fun and not had to make a living, I guess $1.20 an hour would be great....lol..In 2010, where could ANY American make a living on $1.20 an hour ??? See, conservatives don't get it....this is not about handouts, but making a LIVING....
Working your way up is great, but do you want me to believe that paying somebody MINIMUM WAGE is worth them breaking their backs for you or any other company only to still live in poverty ???
What am I missing ?? Apparently you live in your own world where you don't see millions of people unemployed, millions more UNDERemployed, millions without healthcare, millions of folks who lost their homes that they WORKED for, etc... while rich CEO's line their pockets.....hmmm I think I'll vote democrat, at least only 85% of them are only sold out to corporations, while 100% of republicans are....
What are you missing?...reading comprehension skills.

I stated I made minimum wage WHEN it was $1.20/hr...in the 60's.

And if you think the Democrats bear no blame for the current mess or that what they are doing is going to get us out of the current mess then go ahead and vote for the Democrat...and watch it get even worse than it is now.

“If it ain't broke don't fix it”

Level 9

Since: Jul 09

Arcadia, LA.

#384 Oct 14, 2010
Glasnos wrote:
<quoted text>
Well ... why don't we raise the minimum wage to $20 an hour, so it is enough to support a family?
Because minimum wage jobs are meant for entry level positions. If anyone is still working a minimum wage job beyond their late teen years, there is something seriously wrong with that individual, and there is not much hope for him or her anyhow.

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