“The REAL Founding Fathers!!!!!”

Since: Jun 08

Oakland

#571 May 28, 2013
Shalimarr wrote:
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The article clearly says "discharged from hospital and moved into custody in a south London police station"
Meaning he has now been released from hospital and is now being held at a police station in South London.
Probably Woolwich or Greenwich police station.
I read that but it has also been reported that he is only being charged with attempted murder against a POLICE OFFICER....That is why I asked about the Rigby murder....I realise that there are distinct differences in the way the Brits and the Americans handle their cases....

“The REAL Founding Fathers!!!!!”

Since: Jun 08

Oakland

#572 May 28, 2013
*addendum*

I think it is unclear the way the BBC reported this....Instead they should have said he had an additional charge of attempted murder of a police officer....It would have been a lot clearer then....just sayin'.....

“>3 =O”

Level 5

Since: Mar 12

los angeles

#573 May 28, 2013
Soooooooo do those guys get life sentences?

“>3 =O”

Level 5

Since: Mar 12

los angeles

#574 May 28, 2013
Cee_Cipher wrote:
I swear to God, black folks are the most gullible people EVER!! You'd never see another race adopting our religions, fight our battles and shedding blood for our cause. But this black dude is hear ridin' for Islam. Only a black f00l will foolishly go bear others' burdens, while we are still in chaos.
This ain't your business, black folks. Stop fighting others' battles and fight your own.
Cosign. I don't take others issues as my own as much as I do because those people wouldn't give a damn about you if it was the other way around, even if they are of the same race. Nowadays I just used these type as something to talk about on a night about, good banter is all.
smh

Minerva, OH

#575 May 28, 2013
5-28-13

"MUSLIM extremist prisoners carried out an attack on a warder in a Yorkshire jail at the weekend, it was revealed this morning.

Three inmates held the warden hostage before stabbing him during a four-hour stand-off with guards on Sunday afternoon.

Reports said the attack at Full Sutton prison in Yorkshire was inspired by last week’s murder of Drummer Lee Rigby.

This morning it emerged that the victim was a former soldier. A leaked email, said to have been sent to all staff in the prison service, said the officer had been was chosen by the three Muslim inmates because of his links to the Armed Forces.

The email reads:“Three Muslim prisoners took an officer hostage in an office. Their demands indicated they supported radical Islamist extremism.“The officer taken was an ex-serviceman and, throughout the incident, threats were made to kill him.”

The incident is now being investigated by counter-terrorism officers."
http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/at-a-glan...
Stag_R_lee

Scottsdale, AZ

#576 May 28, 2013
smh wrote:
5-28-13
"MUSLIM extremist prisoners carried out an attack on a warder in a Yorkshire jail at the weekend, it was revealed this morning.
Three inmates held the warden hostage before stabbing him during a four-hour stand-off with guards on Sunday afternoon.
Reports said the attack at Full Sutton prison in Yorkshire was inspired by last week’s murder of Drummer Lee Rigby.
This morning it emerged that the victim was a former soldier. A leaked email, said to have been sent to all staff in the prison service, said the officer had been was chosen by the three Muslim inmates because of his links to the Armed Forces.
The email reads:“Three Muslim prisoners took an officer hostage in an office. Their demands indicated they supported radical Islamist extremism.“The officer taken was an ex-serviceman and, throughout the incident, threats were made to kill him.”
The incident is now being investigated by counter-terrorism officers."
http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/at-a-glan...
Have your posts really being reduced to asking subscribers to accept anonymous emails as a reliable source of news?

Since: May 12

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#577 May 28, 2013
NotSoDivineMsM wrote:
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I read that but it has also been reported that he is only being charged with attempted murder against a POLICE OFFICER....That is why I asked about the Rigby murder....I realise that there are distinct differences in the way the Brits and the Americans handle their cases....
One of the biggest differences other than the UK not having capital punishment, is the way our juries are expected to behave.
I have noticed that after some high profile US court cases, members of the jury have given media interviews about the case.
It always stuns me when that happens, no way would that be allowed in the UK.
Jury members have to stay silent and never discuss the case in public... ever. The would be arrested if they tried to give a media interview or cash in on being on a jury.

Since: May 12

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#578 May 28, 2013
Being on a jury in the United kingdom is seen as a very serious responsibility.
Culturally it is unacceptable here for any British citizen to use jury service to try to make money or get their 15 minutes of fame.
No matter how high profile the case is.

Since: May 12

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#579 May 28, 2013
In particular the jurors on the OJ Simpson murder trial and the Michael Jackson trial were all lining up to cash in and tell their "story".
KIP

San Francisco, CA

#581 May 28, 2013
Shalimarr wrote:
In particular the jurors on the OJ Simpson murder trial and the Michael Jackson trial were all lining up to cash in and tell their "story".
The OJ Simpson trial and the Michael Jackson trial were about CELEBRITIES. They shouldn't be different, but they were. If these make up your litmus for American juries, then you're batting for zero.

I've served on 3 juries here in the U.S.--two for criminal cases and one for a civil case. As usual you have absolutely NO idea what it is you're talking about. Nobody lined up to get paid anything.

Since: May 12

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#582 May 28, 2013
KIP wrote:
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The OJ Simpson trial and the Michael Jackson trial were about CELEBRITIES. They shouldn't be different, but they were. If these make up your litmus for American juries, then you're batting for zero.
I've served on 3 juries here in the U.S.--two for criminal cases and one for a civil case. As usual you have absolutely NO idea what it is you're talking about. Nobody lined up to get paid anything.
Can't you read?
I said it is unacceptable in the UK for any juror on ANY trial to try to make money or get their 15 minutes of fame out of judging another British citizen.
Of course journalists and media outlets would not be trying to buy jurors on low profile court cases.
What happened on the OJ and Michael Jackson cases was despicable.
I would have assumed that in a country with capital punishment, you would be even more strict about the seriousness of jury service.
KIP

San Francisco, CA

#583 May 28, 2013
Shalimarr wrote:
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Can't you read?
I said it is unacceptable in the UK for any juror on ANY trial to try to make money or get their 15 minutes of fame out of judging another British citizen.
Of course journalists and media outlets would not be trying to buy jurors on low profile court cases.
What happened on the OJ and Michael Jackson cases was despicable.
I would have assumed that in a country with capital punishment, you would be even more strict about the seriousness of jury service.
They are VERY strict here.
You just watch too much television.

Since: May 12

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#584 May 28, 2013
KIP wrote:
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They are VERY strict here.
You just watch too much television.
Really?



http://www.youtube.com/watch...

“The REAL Founding Fathers!!!!!”

Since: Jun 08

Oakland

#585 May 28, 2013
Shalimarr wrote:
Being on a jury in the United kingdom is seen as a very serious responsibility.
Culturally it is unacceptable here for any British citizen to use jury service to try to make money or get their 15 minutes of fame.
No matter how high profile the case is.
I have 2 cousins that are barristers in the UK (one is also a judge) and from what I gather in high profile cases even the media is not privy to facts of the case.....I remember the case of the abduction of that little boy from a shopping centre by other minor boys many years back.... He was beaten and murdered near some railroad tracks, as I recall....There was NO information on that case until it was all over.....I think, in most cases, the same should happen here so that there is no chance of getting a tainted jury.....just my opinion.....
smh

Minerva, OH

#588 May 28, 2013
*SEAL Team 6, even.
smh

Minerva, OH

#590 May 28, 2013
Stag_R_Lee wrote:
smh wrote:

Canadians in Somalia, a country now experiencing massive deaths due to starvation
Quote.
March 4 killing [edit]
On March 4, two unarmed Somalis were shot in the back,[23] one fatally, after Canadian troops laid an ambush to try to catch petty thieves stealing from the military base in Belet Huen. This followed from a decision by Captain Michel Rainville to re-label petty theft by Somalis as "sabotage", a distinction that meant deadly force could be used to defend the base.[6] Rainville relied on the argument that a fuel pump used to service American MedEvac helicopters had been stolen deliberately to hinder the military effort, while critics pointed out that any saboteurs likely would have ignited the thousands of gallons of fuel surrounding it.[6]
[20]
Rainville enlisted Cpl. Ben Klick of the PPCLI to lay in a truckbed at night, awaiting potential "saboteurs" with a C3A1 rifle.[20] From his position, he watched two Somalis, Ahmed Arush and Abdi Hunde Bei Sabrie, approach the food and water that the Canadians had laid out as bait. Fifteen minutes after first noticing the pair, the thieves began to run from the base in fear they had been noticed; Rainville yelled at them to "stop", and called to Sgt. Plante, Cpl. King and Cpl. Favasoli to "get them".[20] Plante fired with his shotgun, while King fired with his C7; Plante's shot wounded Sabrie, who fell to the ground, while Arush kept running back towards the roadway. Cpl Leclerc and MCpl Countway both shot at him as he ran, although Cpl. Klick had refrained noting that the man presented no risk to Canadian forces. Arush fell to the ground, hit by one of the two men's shots. He struggled to stand up, but both men fired again, killing him.[20]
It was noted that Sabrie had been carrying a ceremonial dagger in his clothing.[20][24] When the unit was ordered to bring the dead body of Arush be brought over to the same position as Sabrie, the soldiers radioed back that they couldn't move the body without it falling apart.[20] So the body of Arush was loaded into a body bag and placed inside a Bison personnel carrier.[6] There, medical technician MCpl Petersen re-opened the bag and took Polaroid photographs for an unknown reason, some suggest to document the shooting, others suggest as a "trophy".[6] The photos showed gaping wounds in Arush's neck and the side of his face, with his skull twisted out of shape by the force of the gunblast. His intestines protruded from his stomach, and his right eye is missing.[6]
An Air Force flight surgeon, Major Barry Armstrong, examined the body and judged the death "suspicious", suggesting that Arush had been lying prone on the ground when he was killed.[6] He also noted that the amount of omentum which had passed through the first wounds suggested the 29-year-old Arush had been breathing for at least 2 or 3 minutes before the final gunshots to his head were fired.[24]
After the examination, Arush's body was then used for medical practice for soldiers, demonstrating how to stab a tracheotomy into a wounded man's throat to allow him to breathe, and then used to demonstrate the proper preparation of a body for transportation. The body was then returned to the body bag, and sent into the local hospital, where Dr. Xelen released it to Arush's family the same evening.[6][20]
Since you wished to play the idiot card? Three words... Black Hawk Down. I don't forget and I don't forgive. Take a guess why, S for brains. Cry your river of tears for another.
Stag_R_Lee

Scottsdale, AZ

#591 May 28, 2013
smh wrote:
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Why don't you go attempt to justify what those two POS did to another person. Now, how about you kindly p*ss off or maybe you can't take a hint, douche bag.
Any more questions, fckwit?
No, I'm no going to PO. I'm an Af.Am. I do not justify the attack on the soldier in London. I have every right--within TOPIX's rules--to post in this forum. Instead of personal attacks, why don't you grow up. You are demonizing an entire group of people without clearly distinguishing that the hateful actions are accomplished by a few.
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IF YOU ARE SO INTERESTED IN TERRORIST ATTACKS, WHY NOT EXPLAIN THESE:
1.) How many are done with the cooperation of the U.S. and British governments?
2.) Bldng 7: please explain the demolition of that NYC skyscraper without being hit by any outside force.
3.) Why--given all of the video camera's and not a few eye witnesses, are there no photos of the "plane" that hit the pentagon or--at best-nominal eyewitness cooperation.(Do you have any idea of big that plane was?)
4.) How is it that warnings of the London Bombing are alleged to have reached the Israeli Embassy moments before the actual bombing, and how--exactly--do you explain the use of commercial/military materials in the bomb itself as well as the ignition system.(These facts were reported by French investigators, a team that was summarily dismissed in favor of NYC investigators.)?
5.) Why does the U.S. Gov't use agent provocateurs to manipulate the most down and out and desperate members of the population (almost all are Black) in an effort to have them appear as "terrorist?"
Stag_R_Lee

Scottsdale, AZ

#592 May 28, 2013
smh wrote:
<quoted text>
Since you wished to play the idiot card? Three words... Black Hawk Down. I don't forget and I don't forgive. Take a guess why, S for brains. Cry your river of tears for another.
"BlackhawkDown" is a movie. You've gone from anonymous emails to pure fiction.

Since: May 12

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#593 May 28, 2013
NotSoDivineMsM wrote:
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I have 2 cousins that are barristers in the UK (one is also a judge) and from what I gather in high profile cases even the media is not privy to facts of the case.....I remember the case of the abduction of that little boy from a shopping centre by other minor boys many years back.... He was beaten and murdered near some railroad tracks, as I recall....There was NO information on that case until it was all over.....I think, in most cases, the same should happen here so that there is no chance of getting a tainted jury.....just my opinion.....
They do it to stop the jury getting outside information.
Sometimes they will do it to protect child victims. If a stepfather is on trial for sexually abusing his step child, the man's identity will be held back from the media to keep the child's identity private.

Since: May 12

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#594 May 28, 2013
^^^^ Because people who know the stepfather might be able to figure out who the child victim is.

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