AE Pharaoh Ramesses iii DNA is Sub-saharan african

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Narmer

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#1 Dec 21, 2012
According to a genetic study in December 2012, Ramesses III belonged to Y-DNA haplogroup E1b1a, mainly found in sub-saharan Africa. [26]
Narmer

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#2 Dec 21, 2012
More on E1b1a haplogroup

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_E-V... (Y-DNA)

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#3 Dec 21, 2012
Narmer wrote:
According to a genetic study in December 2012, Ramesses III belonged to Y-DNA haplogroup E1b1a, mainly found in sub-saharan Africa.[26]
Wonderful information Narmer, please keep posting :)
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#4 Dec 21, 2012
GiRLTeAcHOn wrote:
<quoted text>Wonderful information Narmer, please keep posting :)
thank you Girlteachon...

http://img42.imageshack.us/img42/1899/rameses...

Led by Dr. Zahi Hawass... E1b1a is mainly found in west/central africa.
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#5 Dec 21, 2012
Narmer wrote:
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thank you Girlteachon...
http://img42.imageshack.us/img42/1899/rameses...
Led by Dr. Zahi Hawass... E1b1a is mainly found in west/central africa.
lol...u got it

why do you think west africas mali remembers him...
Black Rule

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#6 Dec 21, 2012
Duh!

Ancient Egypt was ruled by Blacks and the precursors of Egypt was always known to be Black.

Anyone with common sense could see that except the SnowChimps with nothing but cannibalism Cave dwelling history.

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Narmer wrote:
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thank you Girlteachon...
http://img42.imageshack.us/img42/1899/rameses...
Led by Dr. Zahi Hawass... E1b1a is mainly found in west/central africa.
You're welcome brother :)

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#8 Dec 22, 2012
Narmer wrote:
According to a genetic study in December 2012, Ramesses III belonged to Y-DNA haplogroup E1b1a, mainly found in sub-saharan Africa.[26]
we knew this. The truth always comes out

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#9 Dec 22, 2012
I was already posted here on this thread...
http://www.topix.com/forum/afam/TF2UGEI0UJU1N...

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#10 Dec 22, 2012
big mike M wrote:
I was already posted here on this thread...
http://www.topix.com/forum/afam/TF2UGEI0UJU1N...
That is fascinating if its true.. So that quack Hawass has decided to stop lying aye?

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#11 Dec 22, 2012
LMFAO! This is proof that some west Africans were there! LMFAO!

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#12 Dec 22, 2012
Waits for the dumb racist trolls to arrive..........
Narmer

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#13 Dec 22, 2012
moor wrote:
<quoted text>lol...u got it
why do you think west africas mali remembers him...
West african tribes such as the Dogon and Yuroba claim to descend from AE. E1b1a being at 80% in west africa sheds some light on those claims.
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#14 Dec 22, 2012
aZiya wrote:
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we knew this. The truth always comes out
indeed..
Narmer

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#15 Dec 22, 2012
Girl18 wrote:
Waits for the dumb racist trolls to arrive..........
well, they can't argue with DNA.

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#16 Dec 22, 2012
SEXYBLKWOMAN wrote:
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That is fascinating if its true.. So that quack Hawass has decided to stop lying aye?
Yes the quack known as Hawass is starting to loosening up.:)

Also anyone who dares deny Ramesses III having E1b1a should note that E1b1a is found in Sudan at 20%...

Also presence of severe sickle cell found in the mummies would strongly suggest its (E1b1a's, that is) presence is not a result of more recent events.

They found Benin sickle cell in Ancient Egyptian mummies, after all:
"We conducted a molecular investigation of the presence of sicklemia in six predynastic Egyptian mummies (about 3200 BC) from the Anthropological and Ethnographic Museum of Turin. Previous studies of these remains showed the presence of severe anemia, while histological preparations of mummified tissues revealed hemolytic disorders."

- Marin et. al. 1999, Use of the Amplification Refractory Mutation System (ARMS) in the Study of HbS in Predynastic Egyptian Remains."

Here is a map of where sickle cell comes from:
http://i1050.photobucket.com/albums/s417/King...

Like the paper says, they had severe sickle cell. And this wouldn't be the only thing challenging a more recent spread of E1b1a to the region. Less severe sickle cell exists (though it's not what they found).


"The Benin haplotype was found in patients with severe disease, either as homozygous or in combination with another haplotype. The majority of Syrians and Jordanians had the Benin haplotype, and severe disease. However, one in three Syrians and one in five Jordanians had a milder disease, and the Saudi-Indian haplotype was identified."

- el-Hazmi et. al. 1999, Haplotypes of the beta-globin gene as prognostic factors in sickle-cell disease

Also you know, West Africa has a connection straight to Egypt & Sudan. Africa once had a third great River besides the Nile and Ņiger Rivers which was infact connected straight to the Ņiger River through Lake Chad, one of Africa's great lakes along with Lake Victoria. Clearly these acted as significant pumps for people when one considers that the Nile River goes straight to its source in mountainous Northern Ethiopia, the "Mountain of the Moon", which is where the Ancient Egyptians said they came from.

Here is a map of the now non-existent River:
http://i1050.photobucket.com/albums/s417/King...

Also 2013 is going to be way worse for Eurocentrics. Because more mummies are going to be tested. Thats what a poster named beyoku from biodiversity forum said.

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#17 Dec 22, 2012
Let's bring this thread to the spotlight :) We need more positive vibes on Topix!

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#18 Dec 22, 2012
big mike M wrote:
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Yes the quack known as Hawass is starting to loosening up.:)
Also anyone who dares deny Ramesses III having E1b1a should note that E1b1a is found in Sudan at 20%...
Also presence of severe sickle cell found in the mummies would strongly suggest its (E1b1a's, that is) presence is not a result of more recent events.
They found Benin sickle cell in Ancient Egyptian mummies, after all:
"We conducted a molecular investigation of the presence of sicklemia in six predynastic Egyptian mummies (about 3200 BC) from the Anthropological and Ethnographic Museum of Turin. Previous studies of these remains showed the presence of severe anemia, while histological preparations of mummified tissues revealed hemolytic disorders."
- Marin et. al. 1999, Use of the Amplification Refractory Mutation System (ARMS) in the Study of HbS in Predynastic Egyptian Remains."
Here is a map of where sickle cell comes from:
http://i1050.photobucket.com/albums/s417/King...
Like the paper says, they had severe sickle cell. And this wouldn't be the only thing challenging a more recent spread of E1b1a to the region. Less severe sickle cell exists (though it's not what they found).
"The Benin haplotype was found in patients with severe disease, either as homozygous or in combination with another haplotype. The majority of Syrians and Jordanians had the Benin haplotype, and severe disease. However, one in three Syrians and one in five Jordanians had a milder disease, and the Saudi-Indian haplotype was identified."
- el-Hazmi et. al. 1999, Haplotypes of the beta-globin gene as prognostic factors in sickle-cell disease
Also you know, West Africa has a connection straight to Egypt & Sudan. Africa once had a third great River besides the Nile and Ņiger Rivers which was infact connected straight to the Ņiger River through Lake Chad, one of Africa's great lakes along with Lake Victoria. Clearly these acted as significant pumps for people when one considers that the Nile River goes straight to its source in mountainous Northern Ethiopia, the "Mountain of the Moon", which is where the Ancient Egyptians said they came from.
Here is a map of the now non-existent River:
http://i1050.photobucket.com/albums/s417/King...
Also 2013 is going to be way worse for Eurocentrics. Because more mummies are going to be tested. Thats what a poster named beyoku from biodiversity forum said.
Good info! It's a well known fact that Benin sickle cell trait originated in West Africa! We also can't forget that some Egyptians today also carry e1ba..
Narmer

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#19 Dec 22, 2012
big mike M wrote:
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Yes the quack known as Hawass is starting to loosening up.:)
Also anyone who dares deny Ramesses III having E1b1a should note that E1b1a is found in Sudan at 20%...
Also presence of severe sickle cell found in the mummies would strongly suggest its (E1b1a's, that is) presence is not a result of more recent events.
They found Benin sickle cell in Ancient Egyptian mummies, after all:
"We conducted a molecular investigation of the presence of sicklemia in six predynastic Egyptian mummies (about 3200 BC) from the Anthropological and Ethnographic Museum of Turin. Previous studies of these remains showed the presence of severe anemia, while histological preparations of mummified tissues revealed hemolytic disorders."
- Marin et. al. 1999, Use of the Amplification Refractory Mutation System (ARMS) in the Study of HbS in Predynastic Egyptian Remains."
Here is a map of where sickle cell comes from:
http://i1050.photobucket.com/albums/s417/King...
Like the paper says, they had severe sickle cell. And this wouldn't be the only thing challenging a more recent spread of E1b1a to the region. Less severe sickle cell exists (though it's not what they found).
"The Benin haplotype was found in patients with severe disease, either as homozygous or in combination with another haplotype. The majority of Syrians and Jordanians had the Benin haplotype, and severe disease. However, one in three Syrians and one in five Jordanians had a milder disease, and the Saudi-Indian haplotype was identified."
- el-Hazmi et. al. 1999, Haplotypes of the beta-globin gene as prognostic factors in sickle-cell disease
Also you know, West Africa has a connection straight to Egypt & Sudan. Africa once had a third great River besides the Nile and Ņiger Rivers which was infact connected straight to the Ņiger River through Lake Chad, one of Africa's great lakes along with Lake Victoria. Clearly these acted as significant pumps for people when one considers that the Nile River goes straight to its source in mountainous Northern Ethiopia, the "Mountain of the Moon", which is where the Ancient Egyptians said they came from.
Here is a map of the now non-existent River:
http://i1050.photobucket.com/albums/s417/King...
Also 2013 is going to be way worse for Eurocentrics. Because more mummies are going to be tested. Thats what a poster named beyoku from biodiversity forum said.
Thank's big mike, very interesting. This is great news, did he say which mummies will be tested next?

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#20 Dec 22, 2012
Oh yeah King Tutankhamun was said to die of sickle cells..
http://news.discovery.com/history/tut-pharaoh...

It was proven by DNAtribes that he had West/Central ancestry.

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