Hebrew Israelite

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#1927 May 21, 2011
Barros Serrano wrote:
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I know exactly what I'm talking about. Think about it... the Hebrew and Canaanite languages are VERY close, and both are close to Phoenician also. Those 3 all arose from a common root, and therefore a common people.
Yes, Joshua was fighting against people virtually identical to his Hebrews, and in fact many of them WERE Hebrews, but had not been in Egypt, and so followed old religious practices, whereas Joshua was introducing the Law of Moses. There was resistance.
Archaeologists do NOT find evidence of a largescale military conflict. Instead, much of what is represented in the OT as warfare was in fact minor skirmishes accompanying disputes among Mosaic and non-Mosaic priests.
This is only logical. When the Hebrews went into Egypt, do you think ALL of them went? That never happens. Someone was still back in Canaan/Israel.
"Asiatic". You're quoting an Egyptian source with that word, and so we have to remember how VAGUE the term is... and historical sources often were inaccurate as well. The Greeks would call anyone dark-skinned an "Ethiopian".
The best argument I've heard for Hyksos is that they were Aryans from Anatolia, displaced by falling kingdoms.
You make the mistake of thinking that Aryan (Indoeuropean) means European. Aryans were in ancient times across the steppes, all around the Black Sea, in Anatolia, and around the Caucasus on both sides, as well as the Iranian plateau and mountains, Afghanistan and India. To the Egyptians the Hyksos were Asiatic. If they were indeed Aryan (this is not certain), then they'd have likely resembled Hittites or Hurrians, whom the Egyptians had seen.
well scripture doesn't really support this. joshua had a list of tribes who he was to vanquish. and these were all nephilim tribes. in fact there were a couple of non-nephilim tribes that the hebrews were going to attack because they thought they were nephilim but didn't after they were corrected. why nephilim? because they are the children of cain, and they're also represented through esau as well.

can we just be very honest and accurate here for a minute? as far as hebrew scripture is concerned the white man is the devel. he's satan and the man of sin and the opposer of god and his people. there can be no doubt about that.
Judah

Tacoma, WA

#1928 May 21, 2011
DISASTER LOOMS wrote:
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well scripture doesn't really support this. joshua had a list of tribes who he was to vanquish. and these were all nephilim tribes. in fact there were a couple of non-nephilim tribes that the hebrews were going to attack because they thought they were nephilim but didn't after they were corrected. why nephilim? because they are the children of cain, and they're also represented through esau as well.
can we just be very honest and accurate here for a minute? as far as hebrew scripture is concerned the white man is the devel. he's satan and the man of sin and the opposer of god and his people. there can be no doubt about that.
This is why the Majority of Eroupean Jew supporters like Barros only use science to identify who is who. Scripture contradicts their science, it does not describe them as the Children of Israel. If they could use scripture as a reference they would, but they cant, so they dont. What confuses me is they claim the Torah is their book, however they never provide scripture to show their story. How can we identify a biblical nation without God. It makes no sense. In regards to DNA, The Israel Haplotype is in Africa and the dispora. If u wanna find the ancient Isralite Haplotype, you should be looking at DNA not in Israel toay. The Isralite Haplotype has been exiled for thousands of years and is still scattered, biblically speaking. What the J Haplotype proves is that they share ancesrty with the strangers who God gave Israel because his children sinned. They also posses Japeth ancesrty through Gomer and Ashekenanz. Yes, those Strangers have been in the land for a long time but they are not the original inhabitants of that land.

The Nautifian Negroe tribes pre date any Jew in the holy land, they go back 10000 years.

According to Sir Arthur, these original Israelites were clearly a Black people of African descent. Osteological analysis gave scientific backing to this theory. They had classical west African facial features as well as doliocephalic skull index (i.e. long large heads). Sir Arthur had stated:

“Several features stand out quite definitely first the Natufians were a long-headed people – they had cap-shaped occiputs (the lower back part of the head). Secondly, the dimensions or their heads were greater than in the pre-dynastic Egyptians. Thirdly, their faces were short and wide. Fourthly, they were prognathous (with projecting jaws). Fifthly, their nasal bones were not narrow and high, but formed a wide, low arch. Sixthly, their chins were not prominent, but were masked by the fullness of the teeth-bearing parts of the jaw.

Many of them were short and stocky with remarkable developed thighs and legs. They also had a custom of extracting the two upper central incisor teeth of their women.
ben yisrael

United States

#1932 May 21, 2011
DISASTER LOOMS wrote:
<quoted text>
well scripture doesn't really support this. joshua had a list of tribes who he was to vanquish. and these were all nephilim tribes. in fact there were a couple of non-nephilim tribes that the hebrews were going to attack because they thought they were nephilim but didn't after they were corrected. why nephilim? because they are the children of cain, and they're also represented through esau as well.
can we just be very honest and accurate here for a minute? as far as hebrew scripture is concerned the white man is the devel. he's satan and the man of sin and the opposer of god and his people. there can be no doubt about that.
deep! sanballat serranos!were yo evil tail at!read that!

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#1933 May 21, 2011
Barros Serrano wrote:
<quoted text>
I know exactly what I'm talking about. Think about it... the Hebrew and Canaanite languages are VERY close, and both are close to Phoenician also. Those 3 all arose from a common root, and therefore a common people.
Yes, Joshua was fighting against people virtually identical to his Hebrews, and in fact many of them WERE Hebrews, but had not been in Egypt, and so followed old religious practices, whereas Joshua was introducing the Law of Moses. There was resistance.
Archaeologists do NOT find evidence of a largescale military conflict. Instead, much of what is represented in the OT as warfare was in fact minor skirmishes accompanying disputes among Mosaic and non-Mosaic priests.
This is only logical. When the Hebrews went into Egypt, do you think ALL of them went? That never happens. Someone was still back in Canaan/Israel.
"Asiatic". You're quoting an Egyptian source with that word, and so we have to remember how VAGUE the term is... and historical sources often were inaccurate as well. The Greeks would call anyone dark-skinned an "Ethiopian".
The best argument I've heard for Hyksos is that they were Aryans from Anatolia, displaced by falling kingdoms.
You make the mistake of thinking that Aryan (Indoeuropean) means European. Aryans were in ancient times across the steppes, all around the Black Sea, in Anatolia, and around the Caucasus on both sides, as well as the Iranian plateau and mountains, Afghanistan and India. To the Egyptians the Hyksos were Asiatic. If they were indeed Aryan (this is not certain), then they'd have likely resembled Hittites or Hurrians, whom the Egyptians had seen.
Language is location-dependent Taco.
Guest

Oldsmar, FL

#1934 May 21, 2011
You guys are fighting over astrology and not real charactors. 12 tribes of israel=12 zodiac signs.smh
Israel=Isis(Sirius)Ra(sun)EL(S aturn/God)
Barros Serrano

Silver City, NM

#1938 May 22, 2011
Punchojr wrote:
THIS IS WHAT JEWISH WHITE ANTHROPOLOGIST HAVE TO SAY ABOUT OLD BONES THEY FOUND IN THAT AREA FOR THAT BIBLICL TIME
http://www.haaretz.com/print-edition/news/how...
ALL WHITES OR BLACK OR WHOEVER READ THIS 1ST AND THIS IS OUT THE HORSES MOUTH NOT MINES!
Any educated person in the field knows that facial reconstructions are BS.

This article ignores that the DNA has already spoken: Hebrews were Mideastern Semites same as the Chaldeans, Aramaeans, Phoenicians, etc.

Give it up, Afronazi racist fool.
Barros Serrano

Silver City, NM

#1940 May 22, 2011
DISASTER LOOMS wrote:
<quoted text>
well scripture doesn't really support this. joshua had a list of tribes who he was to vanquish. and these were all nephilim tribes. in fact there were a couple of non-nephilim tribes that the hebrews were going to attack because they thought they were nephilim but didn't after they were corrected. why nephilim? because they are the children of cain, and they're also represented through esau as well.
can we just be very honest and accurate here for a minute? as far as hebrew scripture is concerned the white man is the devel. he's satan and the man of sin and the opposer of god and his people. there can be no doubt about that.
Let's be honest and accurate for a minute... according to any religious or social system of which I'm aware, sociopathic racist misfits like you deserve a noose.

I've still got plenty of rope... Nürnberg, baby.
Barros Serrano

Silver City, NM

#1941 May 22, 2011
Judah wrote:
<quoted text>
This is why the Majority of Eroupean Jew supporters like Barros only use science to identify who is who. Scripture contradicts their science, it does not describe them as the Children of Israel. If they could use scripture as a reference they would, but they cant, so they dont. What confuses me is they claim the Torah is their book, however they never provide scripture to show their story. How can we identify a biblical nation without God. It makes no sense. In regards to DNA, The Israel Haplotype is in Africa and the dispora. If u wanna find the ancient Isralite Haplotype, you should be looking at DNA not in Israel toay. The Isralite Haplotype has been exiled for thousands of years and is still scattered, biblically speaking. What the J Haplotype proves is that they share ancesrty with the strangers who God gave Israel because his children sinned. They also posses Japeth ancesrty through Gomer and Ashekenanz. Yes, those Strangers have been in the land for a long time but they are not the original inhabitants of that land.
The Nautifian Negroe tribes pre date any Jew in the holy land, they go back 10000 years.
According to Sir Arthur, these original Israelites were clearly a Black people of African descent. Osteological analysis gave scientific backing to this theory. They had classical west African facial features as well as doliocephalic skull index (i.e. long large heads). Sir Arthur had stated:
“Several features stand out quite definitely first the Natufians were a long-headed people – they had cap-shaped occiputs (the lower back part of the head). Secondly, the dimensions or their heads were greater than in the pre-dynastic Egyptians. Thirdly, their faces were short and wide. Fourthly, they were prognathous (with projecting jaws). Fifthly, their nasal bones were not narrow and high, but formed a wide, low arch. Sixthly, their chins were not prominent, but were masked by the fullness of the teeth-bearing parts of the jaw.
Many of them were short and stocky with remarkable developed thighs and legs. They also had a custom of extracting the two upper central incisor teeth of their women.
The Natufians were not the Hebrews, fool! They were absorbed by the proto-Canaanites, of type J, who were the ancestors of Hebrews. The language, mythology, the entire culture of Hebrews was Semitic and Mideastern.

You Afronazi lowlife are so desperate to make any people black, you will grasp at any straw. You are foolish as well as racist.

Scum.
ben yisrael

United States

#1942 May 22, 2011
Barros Serrano wrote:
<quoted text>
The Natufians were not the Hebrews, fool! They were absorbed by the proto-Canaanites, of type J, who were the ancestors of Hebrews. The language, mythology, the entire culture of Hebrews was Semitic and Mideastern.
You Afronazi lowlife are so desperate to make any people black, you will grasp at any straw. You are foolish as well as racist.
Scum.
yo back up against the wall, u being hit on all sides, there is a lil hole, fo u to escapethru, like a lil rat,u mad cause we them people ,an u r not!we on u from all points!
ben yisrael

United States

#1943 May 22, 2011
sanballt serranos , u need to face facts, dont fight the truth, cause when u do. the lie will pull u down an it will be harder to get back up! i know u been tougth a lie! everybody has! do good befo u live earth! an what better why, then to help the CREATORS CHILDERN! u know the west has been lied to thru media! an institutions that was set up by KHAZARS! this has been going on for almost 400 years! sanballt u r smart, look at the decay of this country!its within that time line!GEN:15v13-14, change yo ways for its to late!forget what the others say!do whats right make that change u can do it!u can b smart in a evil way r b smart in a good way!u know truth deep inside u!

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#1944 May 22, 2011
Barros Serrano wrote:
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Jews, like other Mideasterners, are part black because of the Natufians, who were absorbed by the Mideastern Semites by 11,000 years ago. These Natufians were of NE African type, like "Cushites", in other words, though of course their language is unknown. More likely they spoke some proto-Nilotic tongue, but I'm guessing about that.
In any case, the Hebrews like their neighbors were not BLACK unless you apply the one-drop rule in which case much of Europe is now also black... and for the same reason... the DNA of Natufians which was carried into Europe by these same Mideastern Semites during the Neolithic migrations.
damn you're clinged to them natufians like a lice. Gimme a break.

Bejas were present in the middle east.

6000 bc, the Beja domesticated the donkey and introduced it in the middle east.
Canaanites people shows connection with Beja.

Natufians were in the levant since 10,000 years bc while its 6,000 for the Beja in north africa
Judah

United States

#1946 May 22, 2011
Barros Serrano wrote:
<quoted text>
The Natufians were not the Hebrews, fool! They were absorbed by the proto-Canaanites, of type J, who were the ancestors of Hebrews. The language, mythology, the entire culture of Hebrews was Semitic and Mideastern.
You Afronazi lowlife are so desperate to make any people black, you will grasp at any straw. You are foolish as well as racist.
Scum.
It's not about making anyone black. I don't know what that term entails. The Hebrews were a multitude of Brown people from light to dark as they are today. Their ability to grow Locks naturally shows me who they are. This is supported by scripture and heiroglyophics. Who you consider Negro, Black, middle eastern,
semetic, Jew, African, Bantu or whatever eroupean made up word you wanna use doesn't matter to me. Hebrews have been "Beyond the rivers of Kush" (Zepaniah 3 10) before and after 70 ad. That is not debatable, many Eroupean and Arab historians not to mention people who were actually there like Leon Africanus and Tactius who was quoted in saying the Hebrews were Ethiopian Orgin. Ethiopia was used to desribe the darkest Africans before all this eroupean eruasia dna mumbo jumbo emerged. The fact is you love to spew insults without providing any logical rebutal or scripture. History and Scripture and does not support ur J Haplotype argument. FYI, Biblically speaking the Isralite seedhas been exiled from Israel for thousands of years. All the J Haplotype suggests is that they share ancestry with non Isralites.
Judah

United States

#1947 May 22, 2011
The Seed of Jacob has been exiled for thousands of years, where it remains today. The World will know when the seed has returned, Prophecy tells us the state of the world when this happens. So I guess that rules out 1948, It has gotten worst not better since eroupeans, I mean Jews(?) entered the land. If you don't like what Torah states choose another book as ur religious doctrine. I guess that's why they have adopted the Talmud .
Barros Serrano

Silver City, NM

#1948 May 22, 2011
Afreekan wrote:
<quoted text>
damn you're clinged to them natufians like a lice. Gimme a break.
Bejas were present in the middle east.
6000 bc, the Beja domesticated the donkey and introduced it in the middle east.
Canaanites people shows connection with Beja.
Natufians were in the levant since 10,000 years bc while its 6,000 for the Beja in north africa
You are with the Beja like some of these Afro-Yanks are with the Moors... the were EVERYWHERE!

There was not movement of Bejas into Mideast with the donkey. The donkey spread to many lands without Bejas migrating.

Mideastern E markers are of Natufian origin. That's a fact.
Judah

Seattle, WA

#1949 May 22, 2011
Barros Serrano wrote:
<quoted text>
You are with the Beja like some of these Afro-Yanks are with the Moors... the were EVERYWHERE!
There was not movement of Bejas into Mideast with the donkey. The donkey spread to many lands without Bejas migrating.
Mideastern E markers are of Natufian origin. That's a fact.
Blah Blah Blah, why are u still here? Kick Rocks already. You got some weird black man fetish huh? Are you a White Girl?

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#1950 May 22, 2011
Barros Serrano wrote:
<quoted text>
You are with the Beja like some of these Afro-Yanks are with the Moors... the were EVERYWHERE!
There was not movement of Bejas into Mideast with the donkey. The donkey spread to many lands without Bejas migrating.
Mideastern E markers are of Natufian origin. That's a fact.
Child please.

there are only 2 species of wild ass. The Nubian one, found in northern east sudan, in beja territories and the somali ones, in somalia.

"The ancestors of the domestic donkey were considered vital for collecting water, moving desert households and creating the first land-based trade routes between the ancient Egyptians and the Sumerians, according to study co-author Fiona B. Marshall, Ph.D., a professor of anthropology at Washington University in St. Louis."
Barros Serrano

Silver City, NM

#1951 May 22, 2011
Judah wrote:
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Blah Blah Blah, why are u still here? Kick Rocks already. You got some weird black man fetish huh? Are you a White Girl?
I understand our pique, as you have no argument, are utterly punked intellectually, and appear a foolish cultish clown...

Well, you only did it to yourself, you dumbass non-Hebrew.

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#1952 May 22, 2011
Beni amer, a beja subgroup show relations with Amorites , canaanite people.

FACT 1 the amorites were pastoral and herders
the beja are pastoral and herders

FACT 2 "Abraham's movements also follow well-known trade-routes, indicating that the early Hebrews were probably nomadic traders as well as herders. W. F. Albright notes that the ancient form of the word Hebrew was a general term for "donkey man, donkey driver, huckster, caravaneer"

"By 2350 BC, the Akkadians ruled Mesopotamia as a large empire. Later, other Semitic-speaking pastoral nomads called Amorites ("westerners") by the Babylonians moved into Mesopotamia, consolidating power around 1800 BC. While the Amorites in Babylonia quickly assimilated into the civilization of Mesopotamia, those who migrated in the other direction, along the Mediterranean coast into Canaan, maintained many of their nomadic customs. Abraham's clan was probably one of these latter groups, grazing their flocks in the hill country between the Mediterranean sea and the Jordan river. According to James S. Ackerman, while in Canaan some Amorites "continued the pastoral life of the herdsman while probably relying on some form of primitive farming to supplement the produce of their flocks" "

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#1954 May 22, 2011
FACT 2 (suite) SO hebrew means donkey man?? uh??

LOOOL remember that the Beja domesticated the donkey and introduced it in the middle east.

back to the Amorites

FACT 3: The Amorites are connected to the jebel Bishri in northern Syria.

Bishri= Bisharin(beja)?
Barros Serrano

Silver City, NM

#1955 May 22, 2011
Afreekan wrote:
Beni amer, a beja subgroup show relations with Amorites , canaanite people.
FACT 1 the amorites were pastoral and herders
the beja are pastoral and herders
FACT 2 "Abraham's movements also follow well-known trade-routes, indicating that the early Hebrews were probably nomadic traders as well as herders. W. F. Albright notes that the ancient form of the word Hebrew was a general term for "donkey man, donkey driver, huckster, caravaneer"
"By 2350 BC, the Akkadians ruled Mesopotamia as a large empire. Later, other Semitic-speaking pastoral nomads called Amorites ("westerners") by the Babylonians moved into Mesopotamia, consolidating power around 1800 BC. While the Amorites in Babylonia quickly assimilated into the civilization of Mesopotamia, those who migrated in the other direction, along the Mediterranean coast into Canaan, maintained many of their nomadic customs. Abraham's clan was probably one of these latter groups, grazing their flocks in the hill country between the Mediterranean sea and the Jordan river. According to James S. Ackerman, while in Canaan some Amorites "continued the pastoral life of the herdsman while probably relying on some form of primitive farming to supplement the produce of their flocks" "
That is ZERO proof. There are many people who were nomadic pastoralists, and that doesn't make them Beja!

And traders... and with donkeys. The donkey spread far and wide. There were plenty of burros in Spain... so were the Spanish really Bejas too?

You're ridiculous.

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