Level 2

Since: May 11

United States

#76298 Sep 28, 2013
Doing some research need help? Who is Muak Salahs wife line under? Why is one of Shem grandsons name Cainan and are these the same Kenanites? Which line Kesed come from?
7New Earth7

UK

#76299 Sep 28, 2013
All u have to do is confess Ben......
trollslayer

Chicago, IL

#76300 Sep 28, 2013
Slave Coast wrote:
Theres been alot of mis imformation concerning Egypt. Time to put it back into its proper perspective. All I hear is that Egypt was mixed. Meaning a mixed community or the populations DNA was multi racial. Can one of the trolls please clarify.
If the ancient egyptians were a mixed race people please show the dna findings of a dynastic pharoah with J DNA.
waiting.....
Now if what you mean is that at one time Egypt was a mixed populous like a melting pot, one big fat duh. The question arises is in which dynastic period was either Lower or Upper egypt became a melting pot?
In regards to the egyptians themselves what did they say about their own heritage? whos a better source in regards to ones history. An outsider like a Roman or Greek or the people themselves.
-Papyrus of Hunefer is currently at the London Museum, and comments on the origins of the Egyptians:
"we came from the BEGINNING of the Nile were God Hapi dwells, at the foothills of the Mountains of the Moon" [Great Lakes Region - central Africa]
My hand hurts,, tired of beating you dumb trolls to a pulp. Time for a Ice Pack and a nap.
Waiting..
JOHNS ON TOP OF IT wrote:
<quoted text>
They can't possibly show you that, because the Historical Record shows the Arabs invading Jerusalem in 638 A.D...then invading Kemet (Egypt) in 642 A.D.(WITH THEIR BABYLONIAN ARTISAN & NUMBER COUNTING JEW-ISH BRETHREN IN TOW)!!! This was less than 1,400 YEARS AGO!!!
The Arabs conquered Jerusalem around 638 C.E. The city retained its Roman name, Aelia, until the tenth century, when it was changed to the Arabic al-Quds (the Holy). At the time of its capture, Jerusalem was a sacred city for all three Abrahamic faiths (Judaism, Christianity, and Islam). When the Arab armies took Jerusalem in 638, they occupied a center whose shrines had made it a major pilgrimage site in Christendom. The empire of the Umayyads, stretched over vast areas from the borders of France to the borders of India. However, after the Umayyads were replaced by the Abbasids, the steady decline of Jerusalem began. Damascus was the Umayyad Empire’s capital until the Abbasids moved the capital to Baghdad. The proximity of the capital to Jerusalem was one of the reasons that Damascus caliphs paid special attention to the city. However, the move to Baghdad distanced the concerns of the Abbasid caliphs.
http://www1.american.edu/ted/hpages/jeruselum...
1 thing to question when "THEY SAY MIXED", I say 'mixed' with WHAT?

African???
African AE

Cape Town, South Africa

#76301 Sep 28, 2013
Ben YISRAEL wrote:
there were NO Hebrew people in Judea during jesus time, and certainly all Samaritans "CLAIMED" to be Hebrew people
The Samaritans just like modern Jews are the REAL HEBREWs!
African AE

Cape Town, South Africa

#76302 Sep 28, 2013
trollslayer wrote:
Slave Coast wrote:
Theres been alot of mis imformation concerning Egypt. Time to put it back into its proper perspective. All I hear is that Egypt was mixed. Meaning a mixed community or the populations DNA was multi racial. Can one of the trolls please clarify.
If the ancient egyptians were a mixed race people please show the dna findings of a dynastic pharoah with J DNA.
waiting.....
Now if what you mean is that at one time Egypt was a mixed populous like a melting pot, one big fat duh. The question arises is in which dynastic period was either Lower or Upper egypt became a melting pot?
In regards to the egyptians themselves what did they say about their own heritage? whos a better source in regards to ones history. An outsider like a Roman or Greek or the people themselves.
-Papyrus of Hunefer is currently at the London Museum, and comments on the origins of the Egyptians:
"we came from the BEGINNING of the Nile were God Hapi dwells, at the foothills of the Mountains of the Moon" [Great Lakes Region - central Africa]
My hand hurts,, tired of beating you dumb trolls to a pulp. Time for a Ice Pack and a nap.
Waiting..
<quoted text>
1 thing to question when "THEY SAY MIXED", I say 'mixed' with WHAT?
African???
Here is a J-Pharaoh:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Ka_Statue_of_horaw...
Ancient Egypt was multi-racial society! How could Egypt be a black only society when the Libyans and Middle Eastern people were Eurasian and their next door neighbours???? Haplogroup E1b1b (M78)is 26000 years old and originated in Egypt/Libya NOT Sub-Saharan Africa!!!
African AE

Cape Town, South Africa

#76303 Sep 28, 2013
Ben YISRAEL wrote:
THE FACT IS MODERN jewish people AREN'T ONLY KHAZARIAN BUT ALSO SAMARITAN(ASSYRIAN POSERS)
THEY POSED AS ISRAELITES SINCE SECOND KINGS INTO MODERN TIMES
DNA SHOW MODERNS jewish people AND SAMARITANS ARE ALL THE SAME. THEREFORE IT IS A COMPLEX AND ANCIENT CONSPIRACY NOT JUST MODERN.
Rubbish, modern Jews originated from the ancient Israelite Tribe of Judah! Most Ashkenazi Jews DID NOT originate in the Khazarian Empire! A lot of Samaritians and Israelites WERE NOT taken into exile by the Assyrians but stayed in Israel! You just a fake Hebrew with NO MIDDLE EASTERN DNA!
African AE

Cape Town, South Africa

#76304 Sep 28, 2013
Ben YISRAEL wrote:
there were NO Hebrew people in Judea during jesus time, and certainly all Samaritans "CLAIMED" to be Hebrew people
Hebrews,Israelites,Jews are THE SAME PEOPLE! Jesus was a Jew from the Israelite Tribe of Judah! Israelites originated from the Hebrews! Jews are still called Hebrews in most Eastern European countries!
African AE

Cape Town, South Africa

#76305 Sep 28, 2013
JOHNS ON TOP OF IT wrote:
<quoted text>
DIMWIT,
The information below has to do with "E1B1A!!!"
THIS IS NOT ABOUT YOUR RACIST WHITE/PINK ASSES...GOT IT PUNK???
THESE ARE "SNPS (PRONOUNCED...SNIPS), SINGULAR NUCLEOTIDE POLYMORPHISMS!!! SHOWING EACH GENETIC MARKER (MUTATION) FROM HAPLOTYPES BT TO E1B1A!!!
SIMPLY PUT: "IF IT WERE NOT FOR THOSE YOU CALL BLACKS...YOUR PALE ASS WOULD NOT EXIST!!!"
BT to E1B1A
E1b1a defining mutations
P1
PN1
P182
P293
M180
E1b1 defining mutations
DYS391p
P179
P2
P181
P180
P189
E1b defining mutations
P177
E1 defining Mutations
P147
E defining mutations
P29
P174
P169
P168
P173
P172
P171
P176
P162
M96
P170
P156
P175
P155
P154
M40
P152
P150
D/E defining mutations (YAP)
P165
P183
M203
M145
P144
P153
P167
C/T defining mutations
P9.1
M168
M294
B/T defining mutations
M139
M299
M42
M94
"YAP":
In human genetics, Haplogroup DE is a human Y-chromosome DNA haplogroup. It is defined by the single nucleotide polymorphism (SNP) mutations, or UEPs, M1(YAP), M145(P205), M203, P144, P153, P165, P167, P183.[2]
Haplogroup DE is often referred to by the most well-known unique event polymorphism (UEP) which defines it, the Y-chromosome Alu Polymorphism (YAP). The YAP mutation was caused when a strand of DNA called Alu, which copies itself, inserted a copy into the Y chromosome. A Y chromosome that has the YAP mutation is called YAP-positive (YAP+), and a Y chromosome that does not have the YAP mutation is labeled YAP-negative (YAP-).
Haplogroup DE is an estimated 65,000 years old.
Haplogroup DE
Possible time of origin 65,000 (59,100–68,300) BP[1]
Possible place of origin Africa or Asia
Ancestor CT
Descendants D, E
Defining mutations M1/YAP, M145 = P205, M203, P144, P153, P165, P167, P183
THE "YAP (GENETIC MARKER IS IN ALL DESCENDENTS OF -E1B- WHICH AA'S JUST HAPPEN TO BE, DESCENDENTS OF)," SO FOR ANY PALE FACED DEVIL AS YOU, TO COME HERE AND CLAIM THIS HAS SOMETHING TO DO WITH YOU IS ASININE TO SAY THE LEAST!!!
THE ONLY WAY "E1B" GOT IN TO SO-CALLED WHITES POPULATION WAS THROUGH INTERMARRIAGE, OR THE INFLUX OF E1B'S MIXING WITH SO-CALLED WHITE POPULATIONS...PERIOD!!! HENCE THE REASON YOU HAVE SOME WHITES ONLINE ATTEMPTING TO CLAIM "E1B1A" AS BEING A EUROPEAN HAPLOTYPE NOW!!! LOL...SMDH!!!!!!!!!!
http://dnacommunities.com/cgi-bin/forums/gfor...
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/African_admixtur...
YOU ONLY HAVE 6,000 YEARS OF EXISTENCE AND IN THAT SHORT SPAN OF TIME "ROBBED, RAPED & PILLAGED," EVERY SINGLE PEOPLE AND CONTINENT OF THEIR RICHES AND RESOURCES!!! TIME HAS COME FOR YOU TO SIT YOUR ASSES DOWN AND STFU!!!!!!!!!!
WHAT'S NEXT??? SOON YOU'LL CLAIM SHAKA ZULU WAS A SO-WHITE TOO!!! JUST DAMN!!!
What a load of absolute rubbish! First people in North Africa,Middle East and Europe were Cro-Magnon and NON OF THE CARRYING E1b1a:
www.sciencephoto.com/media/481366/view
Slave Coast

Seattle, WA

#76306 Sep 28, 2013
African AE wrote:
<quoted text>Here is a J-Pharaoh:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Ka_Statue_of_horaw...
Ancient Egypt was multi-racial society! How could Egypt be a black only society when the Libyans and Middle Eastern people were Eurasian and their next door neighbours???? Haplogroup E1b1b (M78)is 26000 years old and originated in Egypt/Libya NOT Sub-Saharan Africa!!!
Not one mention of his dna. Lol. Your basing this theory of J on what, his thin nose. Lmao. That is weak my colured friend.

The egyptians of the 6th dynasty stated their orgin was @ the beginning of the Nile. Whatever egypt became later is irrelevant. All 60 pyramids were built before any arab, roman, or greek got to egypt. Those are facts. Egypt was built and thriving befire the influx of conquring arabs in 642 ad by THOUSANDS of years.

We can prove them pressence of e1b1a among them dynastic and pre.dynastic pharoahs. Wheres the J dna before 642 ad.

Still waiting.......
7New Earth7

UK

#76307 Sep 28, 2013
Punchojr wrote:
Doing some research need help? Who is Muak Salahs wife line under? Why is one of Shem grandsons name Cainan and are these the same Kenanites? Which line Kesed come from?
I know the bible is a book written with codes, and anything that isn't highlighted to paint a picture or tell a story wouldn't be any more than a mere invaluable speck of dust in the ocean of codes.

Level 8

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#76308 Sep 28, 2013
7New Earth7 wrote:
<quoted text>
language study is the best approach to understanding history.
I have studied igbo in comparison to Hebrew; and I can comfortably say that the languages are EXACTLY the same, 100% accuracy!
Likewise, just like Hebrew was the first language, I have seen how many other languages like yoruba, hausa, akan, etc all have elements of igbo that shown how igbos ruled them! For example, the names of yoruba gods are all derived from igbo Lang.
Another main point is that these other languages have igbo word that the languages couldn't define. GET IT; igbo is the root language, so when a word is passed across to another language like yoruba and after many years of foreign influence like slavery, slave trade, colonialism which caused culture to fade a bit; the yoruba COULDNT define all those igbo words anymore, but igbo can define the words.
For example oduduwa, egugun, orisha, oluwa, yoruba, etc are all igbo words, and if you go to yourba sites to find the meanings in comparing to what they are supposed to stand for , it doesn't add up! For instance they might call egugun 'masquerade' or 'head masquerade'!
But igbo will give you a more detailed meaning of all these words and the meanings will also connect the thing being described to other correlated things like events, places, people, eras, etc!!!!!!! IGBO IS VERY REFINED and DEEP!!!!!!!
Again the yorubas claimed a lot about having the empires, but just look at the biggest market in west Africa you see its located in onitsha where their Orisha came from!!!!!
Also if you study yoruba lengends you see they say that when they came, they had to send moremi to go and learn the secrets of an igbo 'king'....... Modern yourbas saw the controversy that legend caused how it exposed their fallicious claims of being here before the igbo, so they started 'editing' it to remove the igbos from the picture.........
So there are many ways to find these things out!!!!
let me put the question in context as i'm sure you're not a hebrew israelite.

the bhi (black hebrew israelites) doctrine claims AA are *NOT* hamitic africans but asiatic shemites. asiatic meaning that we migrated to african and WA, from levant/mesopotamia fairly recently with in the biblical timeline, as 'lost' isralites - GAD, DAN, or some other israelite tribe.

so let me ask, do you agree with this assertion??

Level 3

Since: Sep 13

Location hidden

#76309 Sep 29, 2013
It would seem the only Hebrew in here is African AE.

The rest of ou with all that Hamitic mumbo-jumbo are very confused.

“THE TRUTH MUST BE TOLD! ”

Since: Apr 08

Location hidden

#76310 Sep 29, 2013
@ PUNCHOJR,

You were interested in Dravidian Haplogroups...right? Well here's a couple they share with Africans!!!

There are a number of shared African and Indian Y-chromosome haplotypes. These haplotypes include Y-hg, T-M70 and H1.

In relation to Dravidian speakers it was revealed that Y-hgT-M70 was 11.1%. Trevedi et al (2008) report that Y-hgT-M70 is predominately found among Upper Caste Dravidians at a frequency of 31.9. The highest frequency of T-M70 in the World is found among the Fulani (18%) of West Africa. Ramana et al (2001) claims that the discovery of H1 and H2 haplotypes among the Siddis is a“signature” of their African ancestry. As a result, the Y-hgH1 subclade frequency among Dravidian speakers can also be considered as an indicator of an African-Dravidian connection. The H1 haplotype is found among many Dravidians. Sengupta et al (2006) noted that the subclades H1 andH2 were found among 26% of the Dravidian speakers in their study, especially in Tamil Nadu. Trivedi et al (2008) found the Y-hg H1 frequency of 22.2 among Dravidian speakers in their study. Sharma et al (2008) reports a frequency rate of 25.2%. Researchers make it clear that although Africans and Dravidians share many phenotypical traits, they are not genetically related. But the research suggests that there are a number of HLAs and haplotypes shared by speakers of African and Dravidian languages.

http://www.academia.edu/1898589/Y-Chromosome_...

MORE AFRICANS WHO SHARE “T-M70 Y CHROMESOME” WITH INDIA’S DRAVIDIANS

Fulbe Fula northern Cameroon 17.6%

Rangi Rangi Language (Bantu) Tanzania 15.6%

Lemba Venda and Shona (Bantu) South Africa 17.6%

Kanuri Kanuri Cameroon 4.8%

Turu Nyaturu (Bantu) Tanzania 5%

Yems Yemsa (Omotic) SNNP 4.7%
PLAIN TRUTH

Atlanta, GA

#76311 Sep 29, 2013
Ish Tov wrote:
It would seem the only Hebrew in here is African AE.
The rest of ou with all that Hamitic mumbo-jumbo are very confused.
Look at this racist nut spreading their hate in every African thread. Go somewhere and kill yourself fool.
Cherokee Mooroon

Ypsilanti, MI

#76313 Sep 29, 2013
Ben YISRAEL wrote:
The Maghrebim are jewish people from West African Jewish communities who were connected to known
Jewish communities from North Africa, the Middle East, Portugal, and Spain.Historical records
attest to the Maghrebim presence at one time in the Ghana, Mali, and Songhai empires which
was called the Bilad al-Sudan. jewish people from Morocco, Portugal, and Spain also formed
communities off the coast of Senegal and on the islands of Cape Verde. After the rise of Islam in
North and West Africa, these communities ceased to exist and have mostly disappeared due to
migration and assimilation. the Jewish communities who either voluntarily moved or were transported from Yemen by the Ethiopians in the sixth century CE after the defeat of Dhu Nuwas.SEE THEY AINT HEBREWS NON OF THE PEOPLES THAT DIDNT GO THRU CURSES
Although we say Ma-Greb
Maghreb is really pronounced Mareb....the "gh" is silent like the word "light"

check how Kerry Washington says how to pronounce her Igbo husband's name Nnamdi Asomugha; she says its pronounced "Asomua"



Mareb can also be written Ma'eb; whenever you read old books that have ['] it always stands for the letter [r]

Ma'eb can also be written Mo'ab; In the ancient days the vowels were omitted and when they were inserted they were INTERCHANGEBLE!

So you can change the vowels around to get certain words we use today.

For instance Mareb is also Morab/Marab/... It was also called Maruk or Ma'uk.

The maps have been changed

Read The Book of Jubilees Ch 9

http://www.pseudepigrapha.com/jubilees/9.htm

The Book of Jubilees

Subdivision of the three portions amongst the grandchildren of Noah. Amongst Ham's children, 1: Shem's, 2-6: Japheth's, 7-13. Oath taken by Noah's sons, 14-15.
[Chapter 9]

1 And Ham divided amongst his sons, and the first portion came forth for Cush towards the east, and to the west of him for Mizraim, and to the west of him for Put, and to the west of him [and to the west thereof] on the sea for Canaan.
2 And Shem also divided amongst his sons, and the first portion came forth for Ham and his sons, to the east of the river Tigris till it approachcs the east, the whole land of India, and on the Red Sea on its coast, and the waters of Dedan, and all the mountains of Mebri and Ela, and all the land of Susan and all that is on the side of Pharnak to the Red Sea and the river Tina.

As you can see the land of Canaan is in today's West Africa!
Cherokee Mooroon

Ypsilanti, MI

#76314 Sep 29, 2013
'Semite' is the name of a group of languages.

**Semite languages are a COMBINATION of Afro-Asiatic and Indo-European languages.**

DO NOT ASSOCIATE THE "NAMES" OF THESE LANGUAGES WITH THE IMAGES OF THE PEOPLE ASSOCIATED WITH THOSE NAMES TODAY.

The language 'Family Names' were put there to confuse you and for you to disassociate yourself from it.
7New Earth7

UK

#76315 Sep 29, 2013
DISASTER LOOMS wrote:
<quoted text>
let me put the question in context as i'm sure you're not a hebrew israelite.
the bhi (black hebrew israelites) doctrine claims AA are *NOT* hamitic africans but asiatic shemites. asiatic meaning that we migrated to african and WA, from levant/mesopotamia fairly recently with in the biblical timeline, as 'lost' isralites - GAD, DAN, or some other israelite tribe.
so let me ask, do you agree with this assertion??
AAs are a combination of many people. For the mere fact that God cursed the Israelites that ran off from Israel to Africa, doesn't mean it must be only those that were cursed that were taken as slaves. Do you know why?

Number one is; there was NEVER a time God mentioned that ONLY the cursed people will be taken away.

Number two is; there are other stories told by historians that show evidence of how different tribes must have been taken away too, like for example, many high priests were sold with their families: www.google.com/search...

Number three: I am an advocate of TRUTH: let's all not forget the fact that many ancient libraries were burnt, and many sacred books were there too, so the issue of curses on the Hebrew Israelites doesn't mean that there musnt have been other prophecies about 'other people' about the same slavery!!!!! A good example is the nostradamus prophecies.....

Number four is ; if you were reading all my posts since March, you would have seen how I have been able to show very authentic evidence about how proto-Greek, Latin, french, Yiddish, and some other western European languages changed the ancient regional names which were ONE AND THE SAME and all were ANI-Onitsha. And just to show you the fact, the morrish blacks who say they were in USA since ancient times still use the name ani-onitsh (just different spelling: www.google.com/search... so you see that its NOT all AAs who arrived from slave ships?????? Some were there already!!!!!! See that their main seven clans all have 'ANI' starting the names (ani means land): bonnieramsey.hubpages.com/hub/The-Seven-Clans...

Now, I know how many people have called these black native Indians fraudsters, BUT if you request I can show you more about the ani-onitsha, which is global!!!!! Its even where prophet muhammad is ie the 'Al'Quraysha'(in igbo Ala and ANI are the same so Al'Quraysha is the same with ANI-Quraysha): www.google.com/search...

Even I can show you many many things about the medebay even in Israel, anatolia, anthioch, raetis, Egypt, Ethiopia, Liberia, morrocco, Mali, south Africa, Ghana, Tunisia, lybia, Algeria, England, Germany, Italy, Japan, china, Russia, Spain, middle east, India, austrailia, EVERYWHERE all tallies!!!!!!!!!

So, I'm NOT doubting that there will be shemite AAs, but I keep saying there are many others!!!!!

We can't stick to ONLY the bible, c'mon!
7New Earth7

UK

#76316 Sep 29, 2013
Cherokee Mooroon wrote:
'Semite' is the name of a group of languages.
**Semite languages are a COMBINATION of Afro-Asiatic and Indo-European languages.**
DO NOT ASSOCIATE THE "NAMES" OF THESE LANGUAGES WITH THE IMAGES OF THE PEOPLE ASSOCIATED WITH THOSE NAMES TODAY.
The language 'Family Names' were put there to confuse you and for you to disassociate yourself from it.
You are wrong.

Go back to the page the question was asked and see the answer I gave. Its the Bey family that the Maghreb came from, the same family with the washitaw 'BEY FAMILY'.......
trollslayer

Chicago, IL

#76318 Sep 29, 2013
UNLESS UR A RACIST...We don't use the term "sub" anything to describe Africa. Africa means Black. It is the origin of all men. There NO SUCH THING AS
"indigenous non-blacks" to Africa.

___

" ........the concept ‘sub-Sahara Africa’ is absurd and misleading, if not a meaningless classificatory schema.

Its use defies the science of the fundamentals of geography but priorities hackneyed and stereotypical racist labeling. It is not obvious, on the face of it, which of the four possible meanings of the prefix ‘sub’ its users attach to the ‘sub-Sahara Africa’ labeling.

Is it ‘under’ the Sahara Desert or ‘part of’/‘partly’ the Sahara Desert? Or, presumably,‘partially’/‘nearly ’ the Sahara Desert or even the very unlikely (hopefully!) application of ‘in the style of, but inferior to’ the Sahara Desert, especially considering that there is an Arab people sandwiched between Morocco and Mauritania (northwest Africa) called Saharan? "

-Herbert Ekwe-Ekwe

Mr. Ekwe-Ekwe is African. Anybody who comes out against him for voicing his dis-pleasure with the term "sub-sahara" is a racist POS.

http://www.google.com/url...
____

this "sub" term is just a trick racist use to 1) claim there was always "2 Africa's"

2) Place imaginary non-blacks in various parts of Africa and say they were "indigenous".

3) they use this racist trick to claim Africa's glory and PRETEND they (the whites) gave civilization, religion etc. to world.

THIS IS NEVER GONNA FLY IN A AA forum....take it to stormfront.
Cherokee Mooroon

Ypsilanti, MI

#76319 Sep 29, 2013
7New Earth7 wrote:
<quoted text>
You are wrong.
Go back to the page the question was asked and see the answer I gave. Its the Bey family that the Maghreb came from, the same family with the washitaw 'BEY FAMILY'.......
I did not say where Maghreb came from. I gave pronunciation and tied it into and Moab, Moor and Morocco. I agree Bey is ONE of our family names, we have 4 others.

Here's the 5:

Bey
El
Dey
Al
Ali

Don't be so quick to dismiss stuff you don't understand.

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