Hebrew Israelite
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#71507 Aug 4, 2013
Ben there were more parties involved NOT just the ones you mentioned! That's where you went wrong! You have mentioned the Romans and then you mentioned the sephaivams (Yohanan ben Zaccai ) and the greeks (ptlomey).....

The Yohanan ben Zaccai you mentioned lived 30 - 90 CE His tomb is located in Tiberias.

But you do not know many other things that happened! Tiberias was now a dead lock zone and for the lame ones who couldn't do much, so Yohanan ben Zaccai was a lame who proved to be so, NOT a rebel LEADER!!

Now let me introduce the true OG hebrew leviticu priest rebels of the time!!!

Why was he sort of a peace maker when there was a revolt by his predecessors?

It all started when Jason, the brother of Onias, bribed
Antiochus to make him High Priest instead. Jason
abolished the traditional theocracy and constituted
Jerusalem as a Greek polis.[1]. Incase you don't know Onias was the levites family!! OG hebrews There were still Levite Priests in Jerusalem my friend! The Land Owners! They answered the Onias!! They are the OG Hebrew high priests!!!!! So the bastard Jason f**ked up!! He is the one that started all the selling out that led to people like your Yohanan ben Zaccai copycating him in later years!!

But let me continue with what I'm saying!!! Ok see what happens after Jason's bribery... Menelaus then
bribed Antiochus and was appointed High Priest in
place of Jason. Menelaus had Onias assassinated.
[4]Menelaus' brother Lysimachus stole holy vessels
from the Temple, causing riots that led to his death.
Menelaus was arrested for Onias' murder, and was
arraigned before Antiochus, but he bribed his way
out of trouble. Jason subsequently drove out
Menelaus and became High Priest again....From this point onwards, Antiochus pursued a zealous Hellenizing policy. He made possession of the Torah a capital offense and burned the copies he could find.[6]
According to 1 Maccabees, he banned many
traditional Jewish religious practices: Jewish
sacrifice was forbidden, sabbaths and feasts were
banned....Altars to Greek gods were set up
and animals prohibited to Jews were sacrificed on
them..... or he may
have been responding to an orthodox Jewish revolt
that drew on the Temple and the Torah for its
strength[1] and encouraged by a group of radical
Hellenizers among the Jews.[8]

Infact I will trace the steps of Hebrew Israelites for you!

"When Antiochus IV Epiphanes (ca. 215–164 BCE),
became ruler of the Seleucid Empire in 175 BCE, the
High Priest in Jerusalem was Onias III. To Antiochus,
the High Priest was merely a local governor within
his realm, who could be appointed or dismissed at
will, while to orthodox Jews he was divinely
appointed.[3]" seen? Ben? see what happened? When Antiochus IV Epiphanes assumed power he didn't sense that these zealots were threats! THAT'S WHY HEBREW HIGH PRIESTS WAS LEFT ALONE!!

Onias's contemporary was Judah Maccabbee who was another zealot and rightful indigenous ruler.

Judah was the third son of Mattathias the
Hasmonean, a Jewish priest from the village of
Modiin. In 167 BCE Mattathias, together with his
sons Judah, Eleazar, Simon, John, and Jonathan,
started a revolt against the Seleucid ruler Antiochus
IV Epiphanes, who since 175 BCE had issued
decrees that forbade Jewish religious practices. After
Mattathias's death in 166 BCE, Judah assumed
leadership of the revolt in accordance with the
deathbed disposition of his father. The First Book of
Maccabees[1]

Onias IV is the designation given to the son of Onias III and the lawful heir of the legitimate high priests. He had reason to hope that the victory of the national party under Judas Maccabeus would place him in the office of his fathers; but being disappointed in his expectations by the election of Alcimus, he went to Egypt to seek aid against the tyranny of the Seleucids.......".

To be cont'd
7New Earth7

Europe

#71508 Aug 4, 2013
So you see Onias fled to egypt!!!! Ok, now see again. Ill be back!
7New Earth7

Europe

#71509 Aug 4, 2013
About 154 BCE, with the permission of Ptolemy VI (Philometor), he built at Leontopolis a temple which, though comparatively small, was modeled on that of
Jerusalem, and was called by the name of its
founder. Onias doubtless expected that after the
desecration of the Temple at Jerusalem by the
Syrians the Egyptian temple would be regarded as
the only legitimate one. But the traditional
teachings of Judaism, as contained in the Mishnah,
concede no legitimacy to the temple of Onias;[1] in
fact, even for the Egyptian Jews the latter did not
possess the same importance as did the Temple of
Jerusalem.

The establishment of a central sanctuary in Egypt was probably undertaken in response, in part, to the
disorders that arose in Palestine under Antiochus IV
Epiphanes, the desecration of the Temple at
Jerusalem under his reign, the supplanting of the
legitimate family of priests by the installation of
Alcimus, the personal ambition of Onias IV, and the
vast extent of the Jewish diaspora in Egypt that
created demand for a sanctuary of this nature.
Jewish temple at Leontopolis The account of Josephus in the The Wars of the Jews,[4] refers to the Onias who built the Temple at
Leontopolis as "the son of Simon", implying that it
was Onias III, and not his son, who fled to Egypt and
built the Temple. This account, however, is
contradicted by the story that Onias III was
murdered at Antioch in 171 BCE.[5] Josephus'
account in the Antiquities is therefore more
probable, namely, that the builder of the temple was
a son of the murdered Onias III, and that, a mere
youth at the time of his father's death, he had fled
to the court of Alexandria in consequence of the
Syrian persecutions, perhaps because he thought
that salvation would come to his people from Egypt.
[6]

NOW SEE THAT LEVITES WAS WITH ONIAS!!!!!!!!
SEE!!!!!!

Onias now requested the king and his sister-wife,
Cleopatra, to allow him to build a sanctuary in Egypt
similar to the one at Jerusalem, where he would
employ Levites and priests of his own clan;[7] and
he referred to the prediction of the prophet Isaiah[8]
that a Jewish temple would be erected in Egypt.[9]

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#71510 Aug 4, 2013
unfazed wrote:
Glimmer,
CHRIST was called a Nazarite because HE went to dwell in a City called Nazareth which are parts of Galilee.
He wasn't born there, but went there (after coming from Egypt where They had been living) to avoid going into JUDEA, Because Herods' son Archelaus was reigning there at that time. And was called a Nazarite by those the sought HIS Life because that is where they knew HIM to be from during that time.
HE dwelt a few places after leaving Egypt.
The Gospel of St Matthew 2
19 When Herod was dead: Behold, an Angel of THE CREATOR appeared in a dream to JOSEPH IN EGYPT
20 Saying: Arise and take The CHILD and HIS Mother. And go into the Land of ISRAEL. For they are dead which sought The CHILDS Life.
21 Then He arose up and took The CHILD and HIS Mother, And came into the Land of ISRAEL.
22 But when He heard that Archelaus did reign in JUDEA. In the room of his father Herod, He was afraid to go thither. Notwithstanding after He was warned of GOD in a dream, He turned aside into the parts of Galilee.
23 AND WENT AND DWELT IN A CITY CALLED NAZARETH. TO FULFILL THAT WHICH WAS SPOKEN BY THE PROPHETS: HE SHALL BE CALLED A NAZARITE.
====
When HE left Nazareth, He went and dwelt in Capernaum:
The Gospel of St Matthew 4
12 When JESUS had heard that John was taken, HE departed into Galilee and LEFT NAZARETH.
13 AND WENT AND DWELT IN CAPERNAUM. WHICH IS A CITY UPON THE SEA. IN THE COASTS OF ZABULON AND NEPHTHALIM.
14 TO FULFILL THAT WHICH WAS SPOKEN BY ESAI THE PROPHET: THE LAND OF ZABULON AND NEPHTHALIM, THE WAY OF THE SEA BEYOND JORDON, GALILEE OF THE GENTILES,
15 THE PEOPLE WHICH SAT IN DARKNESS, SAW GREAT LIGHT, AND TO THEM WHICH SAT IN THE REGION AND SHADOW OF DEATH, LIGHT IS BEGUN TO SHINE.
==========
The town of Nazareth is recently founded and archeology revealed the town was not founded at the time of Jesus. Rather there were ethnic groups of Jews who were called Nazarene. These people had dark shades as they were ancient non-exile and non-mixed with the Assyrian. St. Mary was their descent from that group and her son Jesus and Joseph were from that group. They were all caste and impoverished by the post exile Assyrian mixed Jews who were expecting Jesus from rich families and with in themselves.
7New Earth7

Europe

#71511 Aug 4, 2013
The ONIAS family and the MACCABEES family were the real rebels NOT your fake lame ass Johanan ben Zakkai!!!!!!!

“THE TRUTH MUST BE TOLD! ”

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#71512 Aug 4, 2013
7New Earth7 wrote:
<quoted text>
Dead wrong! Europe was mixed black and white! The blacks was an extension of Hebrews! They hebrews Occupied all parts just like whites occupied all parts, just had boundaries dividing them in all these parts! The whites were mostly barbarians until they learnt the secret of the jews and they thracians (white barbarians whom learnt the secrets went around asia and egypt and the mediteranian conquering)...... that's all.....
You are the one who is not only WRONG, BUT YOU'RE TOTALLY OUT OF LINE!!!

WHO DOESN'T KNOW THE BARBARAC NATURE AND HISTORY OF EUROPEANS??? AND YOU OBVIOUSLY DON'T UNDERSTAND THE PURPOSE OF MY POST...YOU JUST HAD TO STICK YOUR NOSE IN AND GOT IT ALL WRONG!!!!!!!!!!

Are you CALLING WHAT'S DOCUMENTED IN THE BIBLE AND RECORED IN HISTORY A LIE???

You need to join a conversation you are ON THE SAME PAGE AND LEVEL WITH!!!
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Europe

#71513 Aug 4, 2013
Glimmer wrote:
<quoted text>
The town of Nazareth is recently founded and archeology revealed the town was not founded at the time of Jesus. Rather there were ethnic groups of Jews who were called Nazarene. These people had dark shades as they were ancient non-exile and non-mixed with the Assyrian. St. Mary was their descent from that group and her son Jesus and Joseph were from that group. They were all caste and impoverished by the post exile Assyrian mixed Jews who were expecting Jesus from rich families and with in themselves.
Ok see that truly u r right they didn't mix! The Jews he call sephavaim he say mixed was still enemies with assyrians, ie they were REAL rebels ie Judah maccabees!!!!

See: "Upon hearing the news that the Jewish communities
in Gilead, Transjordan, and Galilee were under
attack by neighboring Greek cities, Judah
immediately went to their aid. Judah sent his
brother, Simeon, to Galilee at the head of 3,000
men; Simeon proceeded to successfully fulfill his
task, achieving numerous victories and transplanted
a substantial portion of the Jewish settlements,
including women and children, to Judea. He
personally led the campaign in Transjordan, taking
with him his brother Jonathan. After fierce fighting,
he defeated the Transjordanian tribes and rescued
the Jews concentrated in fortified towns in Gilead.
The Jewish population of the areas taken by the
Maccabees was evacuated to Judea.[3] At the
conclusion of the fighting in Transjordan, Judah
turned against the Edomites in the south, captured
and destroyed Hebron and Maresha.[4] He then
marched on the coast of the Mediterranean,
destroyed the altars and statues of the pagan gods
in Ashdod, and returned to Judea with much spoils.
Judah then laid siege to the Assyrian garrison at the
Acra, the Seleucid citadel of Jerusalem. The
besieged, who included not only Assyrians but also
Hellenistic Jews, appealed for help to Lysias, who
effectively became the regent of the young king
Antiochus V Eupator after the death of Antiochus
Epiphanes at the end of 164 BCE during the
Parthian campaign. Lysias together with Eupator set
out for a new campaign in Judea. Lysias skirted
Judea as he had done in his first campaign, entering
it from the south, and besieged Beth-Zur. Judah
raised the siege of the Acra and went to meet
Lysias. In the Battle of Beth-zechariah, south of
Bethlehem, the Seleucids achieved their first major
victory over the Maccabees, and Judah was forced to
withdraw to Jerusalem. Beth-Zur was compelled to
surrender and Lysias reached Jerusalem, laying
siege to the city. The defenders found themselves in
a precarious situation because their provisions were
exhausted, it being a sabbatical year during which
the fields were left uncultivated. However, just as
capitulation seemed imminent, Lysias and Eupator
had to withdraw when Antiochus Epiphanes's
commander-in-chief Philip, whom the late ruler
appointed regent before his death, rebelled against
Lysias and was about to enter Antioch and seize
power. Lysias decided to propose a peaceful
settlement, which was concluded at the end of 163
BCE. The terms of peace were based on the
restoration of religious freedom, the permission for
the Jews to live in accordance with their own laws,
and the official return of the Temple to the Jews.
Lysias defeated Philip, only to be overthrown by
Demetrius, the true heir to the Assyrian throne.
Demetrius appointed Alcimus (Jakim), a Hellenist
Jew, as high priest, a choice the Hasidim (Pietists)
might have accepted since he was of priestly
descent."
7New Earth7

Europe

#71514 Aug 4, 2013
Glimmer wrote:
<quoted text>
The town of Nazareth is recently founded and archeology revealed the town was not founded at the time of Jesus. Rather there were ethnic groups of Jews who were called Nazarene. These people had dark shades as they were ancient non-exile and non-mixed with the Assyrian. St. Mary was their descent from that group and her son Jesus and Joseph were from that group. They were all caste and impoverished by the post exile Assyrian mixed Jews who were expecting Jesus from rich families and with in themselves.
Iy you have been understanding me; there were two rebelious and powerful priestly class families ie the Maccabees and the Onias and apart from how Judaus fought I have said that Onias fled to egypt!!!!

Now I will show you that they flourished in egypt as true hebrews who are elite!!!!

Ill be back!!!!!

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#71515 Aug 4, 2013
African AE wrote:
<quoted text>Ashkenazi are most definitely Shemites/Semites! The majority of world renowned scientists say they originate in the Middle East!
Ofcourse, Ashkenazim are some how mixed with Semites, but the problem comes, when their slaves 'the Cape Malay' is also attracted by that claiming. Slaves and masters are almost always from different race. What makes you, the Cape Malay, think you are related with your master Jews? You don't even know you carried E1b1a? Look, these are your roots, do they look like Ashkenazim? That is the big issue not explained so far.

http://www.google.com.et/imgres...
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#71516 Aug 4, 2013
If* NOT Iy

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#71517 Aug 4, 2013
unfazed wrote:
<quoted text>
Good post!
Thanks!

Some of these trolls only purpose here is to take up space and get in the way of the TRUE CONTENT!!!
7New Earth7

Europe

#71518 Aug 4, 2013
Also just for he sake of highlighting.........."At the
conclusion of the fighting in Transjordan, Judah
turned against the Edomites in the south, captured
and destroyed Hebron and Maresha.[4]"

SO they didn't mix with EDOM!!!!!!!!
African AE

Cape Town, South Africa

#71519 Aug 4, 2013
Ben YISRAEL wrote:
(1st Century CE).*Sage. During the *Jewish War, Johanan ben Zakkai, the leading authority of his day, managed to leave the besieged city of *Jerusalem to join the existing *academy in *Jabneh. johanan’s own ordinances were issued ‘in remembrance of the Temple’ and he is remembered as the first sage to engage in *kabbalah (Jewish mysticism).The leader of the group during 66-70 was Yohanan ben Zakkai. the Sepharviam ,Children of True YIsrael, there is a GIGANTIC COVER-UP going on in the world of religion. It is a DECEPTION of such vast proportions that it affects every moment of your life. It affects your income, your health, your family, your residence, your faith, your business, your welfare and even your sex life. Ultimately, it affects your immortal soul, which, at this moment in time, is in serious jeopardy. This cover-up has confounded the wisdom and judgment of millions of otherwise good people.It is also true that nowhere in Scripture are the Israelites ever called “Jews.” There is absolutely no such statement in either Testament, that says,“Jacob is a Jew” or “Israel is a Jew,” or even “Judah is a Jew.” In fact, we have several COUNTEREXAMPLES, which prove the opposite to be true! II Kings 16:6 refers to the House of Judah as “Jews,” but it refers to the House of Israel as “Israel.” Now, if the Jews are Israel, as we are constantly told, why does this passage contradict them? The fact is that the word ‘Jew’ is a modern invention that simply does not mean either ‘Judah’ or Israel’ or “Abraham.’ All of these claims are deceptions invented by the rabbis for the express purpose of deceiving the world on the new world order! which came after the fall of the true hebrews genealogy of the Jewish people through the Bible and through history, that the Jewish people are neither Shemites, Hebrews, Yisraelites or Judahites. All of these claims are simply false. These false claims are, when added together, THE GREAT IMPERSONATION of Yisrael by a completely different people altogether, a people, who are actually Yisrael's WORST ENEMIES, but who have devised a brilliant strategy of staging a coup over their enemies and then proceeding to assume their identity.
What a load of AFRONAZI CR*P! DNA has already proven todays Jews ARE RELATED TO THE ANCIENT JEWS/ISRAELITES/HEBREWS! For the millionth time, Y was used instead of J. Jews were called Yehudi,Jesus-Yeshua/ Judah-Yehuda!
None of you are any of the above but A BUNCH OF FAKES!
African AE

Cape Town, South Africa

#71520 Aug 4, 2013
Glimmer wrote:
<quoted text>
Ofcourse, Ashkenazim are some how mixed with Semites, but the problem comes, when their slaves 'the Cape Malay' is also attracted by that claiming. Slaves and masters are almost always from different race. What makes you, the Cape Malay, think you are related with your master Jews? You don't even know you carried E1b1a? Look, these are your roots, do they look like Ashkenazim? That is the big issue not explained so far.
http://www.google.com.et/imgres...
Shut up you jealous old fart with no teeth!
African AE

Cape Town, South Africa

#71521 Aug 4, 2013
Glimmer wrote:
<quoted text>
The town of Nazareth is recently founded and archeology revealed the town was not founded at the time of Jesus. Rather there were ethnic groups of Jews who were called Nazarene. These people had dark shades as they were ancient non-exile and non-mixed with the Assyrian. St. Mary was their descent from that group and her son Jesus and Joseph were from that group. They were all caste and impoverished by the post exile Assyrian mixed Jews who were expecting Jesus from rich families and with in themselves.
What a load of cr*p, Nazareth did exist at the time of Jesus! They were always Eurasian Caucasian carrying Haplogroup J2 like their ancestors the Israelites!
African AE

Cape Town, South Africa

#71522 Aug 4, 2013
Chlo wrote:
<quoted text>
You're an idiot! The Israelites would NOT and did NOT flee to Europe!
They have absolutely no reason to flee to Europe! It wouldn't be safe, or a right decision to flee to the land of the people that are destroying their land!!!!
So STOP saying they fled to Europe, since that is NOT a very smart answer when you think about all the clues!!!
Ancient Jews in EUROPE:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Jews_in_Spai...
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Jews_in_Ital...
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Jews_in_Gree...
African AE

Cape Town, South Africa

#71523 Aug 4, 2013
7New Earth7

Europe

#71524 Aug 5, 2013
Ben see for excerpts that Onias was the high priest who was meant to truly institute the Order of levites at Jerusalem........

" It is significant that the
Palestinian rabbis ruled that a sacrifice
intended for the temple of Onias might be
offered in Jerusalem."

You see? For the rabbis to say such, it meant Onias was the leader, was the recognised one who his name was known everywhere home and abroad!!!!!!!

Ok moe real full script and SEE AGAIn how these greeks mixed!!!!!! This is the mixture that you have been looking for when it happened!!!!!!

SEE!!!!!!

"The most important work of the early
Hellenistic period, dating, according to
tradition, from the 3rd century BCE, is the
Septuagint, a translation of the Pentateuch
into Greek.(The translation of the whole
Hebrew Bible was completed during the next
two centuries.) The fact that, in the Letter of
Aristeas and the works of Philo and Josephus,
this translation was itself regarded as divinely
inspired led to the neglect of the Hebrew
original." THIS WAS THE MIXING!!!!!!!

Were you expecting to see mixed blood between hebrews and edom and asyrians????? GO and SIT DOWN!!!!!!!

Infact the opposite is what happened!!!!!

See!!!!

"The translation shows some knowledge of Palestinian exegesis and the tradition of Halakha (the Oral Law); but the rabbis themselves, noting that the translation diverged from the Hebrew text, apparently had ambivalent feelings about it, as is evidenced in their alternate praise and condemnation of it."

AGAIN SEE what finally happened!!!!!

"The fact that such a concept as Torah was
translated as nomos ("law") and tzedaqa as
dikaiosyne ("justice") opened the way to
antilegalism in early Christianity and to
Platonic interpretations; and the introduction
of such Greek mythological terms as "Titans"
and "Sirens" helped to pave the way for the
syncretism of Judaism and paganism.

What I'm HIGHLIGHTING in thw last excerpt is "helped to pave the way for the
*syncretism* of Judaism and paganism."......to show you when you concocted mixing took place!!!!!!!!!

BACK TO ONIAS!!!!!!

"The establishment of a temple at Leontopolis
in Egypt (c. 145 BCE) by a deposed high priest,
Onias IV, indicates that the temple was clearly
heterodox; but this temple never really
offered a challenge to the one in Jerusalem
and was merely the temple of the military
colony of Leontopolis. It is significant that the
Palestinian rabbis ruled that a sacrifice
intended for the temple of Onias might be
offered in Jerusalem. That the temple of Onias
made little impact upon Egyptian Jewry can be
seen from the silence about it on the part of
Philo, who often mentions the Temple in
Jerusalem. The temple of Onias, however,
continued until it was closed by the Roman
emperor Vespasian in 73 CE."

Do you see again????? This last excerpt shows the decline of the hebrew empire!!!! I will bring the name of the empire later!!! I will show you that they are the Medebays!!!!!!!! And that the Onias are the same as the Orissa/Onissa I have been pounding in yo ears just to show how truly authentic I am and the bible is!!!!!!!! history-world.org/history_of_judaism.htm
7New Earth7

Europe

#71525 Aug 5, 2013
Please I will finish up later!!!!!!! I'm busy!!!!!
I can even type more that I've been typing if I was as free as yall!!!!!!!
I'm just summarising as much as possible!!!!!
7New Earth7

Europe

#71526 Aug 5, 2013
Would have even typed more*

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