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#70572 Jul 25, 2013
NO HEBREW DNA would be Left CREATOR wasnt having that, everything about us HAD TO GET OFF HIS Land that HE gave us, Bones to THEY WOULD DIG THEM UP EVERYBODY SO NO DNA FROM HEBREWS! Jeremiah 8:1;At that time, saith the LORD, they shall bring out the bones of the kings of Judah, and the bones of his princes, and the bones of the priests, and the bones of the prophets, and the bones of the inhabitants of Jerusalem, out of their graves:YOU SEE THEM WORDS?"bones of the inhabitants" everybody bones gone be dug UP Everybody's from King Graves on down to COMMON peoples, they GRAVES would be DUG up! NO DNA

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#70573 Jul 25, 2013
"Nebuzaradan" burned the whole TOWN DOWN NAD because he couldnt find the ARK, we had it in 621BC,2 Chronicles 35:3;And said unto the Levites that taught all Israel, which were holy unto the LORD, Put the holy ark in the house which Solomon the son of David king of Israel did build; it shall not be a burden upon your shoulders: serve now the LORD your God, and his people Israel, IT WASNT IN ETHIOPIA so the king of Babylon was LOOKING FOR IT, ok check this Jeremiah 52:13;And burned the house of the LORD, and the king's house; and all the houses of Jerusalem, and all the houses of the great men, burned he with fire: "Nebuzaradan"was acting a fool, he was the" BURN UP man" for the king of Babylon go in an set Fire, that would make us flee into africa with no where to stay it was like they was making sure we didnt come back! by burning up everything, we would see TEMPLE BURN an that would make us never want to return, an also us seing TEMPLE BURN DOWN, we would know YAH wasnt with us an we would FLEE BIG TIME, with no looking back,ok check this!Jeremiah 52:14;And all the army of the Chaldeans, that were with the captain of the guard, brake down all the walls of Jerusalem round about.now check this!Jeremiah 52:15;Then Nebuzaradan the captain of the guard carried away captive certain of the poor of the people, and the residue of the people that remained in the city, and those that fell away, that fell to the king of Babylon, and the rest of the multitude.THESE the ONE's that took OFF to make it NONE in the Land, where would they stay EVIL DUDE " Nebuzaradan" just burned the place up,ok check this Jeremiah 52:16 But Nebuzaradan the captain of the guard left certain of the poor of the land for vinedressers and for husbandmen.ok lets go back a lil an see what happen to the people that "Nebuzaradan the captain of the guard left" go to Jeremiah 43:3;But Baruch the son of Neriah setteth thee on against us, for to deliver us into the hand of the Chaldeans, that they might put us to death, and carry us away captives into Babylon,Jeremiah 43:4 So Johanan the son of Kareah, and all the captains of the forces, and all the people, obeyed not the voice of the LORD, to dwell in the land of Judah.you see it says 'all the people?' Jeremiah 43:5;But Johanan the son of Kareah, and all the captains of the forces, took all the remnant of Judah, that were returned from all nations, whither they had been driven, to dwell in the land of Judah;we came back from the Assyrian attacks they had this was the Saite Period an years WE was cool with Etgpt the Black Lands,the Africans got take with us to Assyria, by 588BC we would all be in the Land getting ready to run into africa to Never return till CREATOR call us an we did all go into africa its here they went into africa with the ones Nebuzaradan had left behind Jeremiah 43:6;Even men, and women, and children, and the king's daughters, and every person that Nebuzaradan the captain of the guard had left with Gedaliah the son of Ahikam the son of Shaphan, and Jeremiah the prophet, and Baruch the son of Neriah,Jeremiah 43:7So they came into the land of Egypt: for they obeyed not the voice of the LORD: thus came they even to Tahpanhes.ok I gone show you something that MESSED US UP! in MOSES days it was said"we wasnt suppose to run to Egypt for safety Deuteronomy 17:16;But he shall not multiply horses to himself, nor cause the people to return to Egypt, to the end that he should multiply horses: forasmuch as the LORD hath said unto you, Ye shall henceforth return no more that way.,see we went back that WAY after CREATOR FREED us from that system, where we was the footstool
Jeff

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#70574 Jul 25, 2013
Glimmer wrote:
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Jeff, very unlikely! I mean haplotype G could have been there but not predominantly. If you accept 22% of Europeans have Neolithic linage, why haplotype G is still scarce in Europe. Are they dead? It can't mutate to haplotypes like EV-13?
let's see its present prevalence:
"The Haplogroup G Project has indicated among its large G collection that likely or proven G-L13 STR samples comprise the following percentages of available G samples in the following European countries [in descending order]:
Germany, 16%.....Italy, 11%.....Netherlands, 10%.....France, 10%.....Poland, 9%.....Spain, 9%.....Ireland, 6%.....England, 5%.....Switzerland, 4%[11]"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_G-P30...
It's distribution is even to the opposit direction as its origin is northern around the Caucasus. I expected the Balkans to carry the highest amount if your position was true.
Did you read what I posted in the previous message? Haplogroup G, J, etc makes up a TOTAL of 22% of the total European Y chromosome gene pool, and were predominantly found in Southern Europe. Studies prove it to be VERY likely that G was the dominant marker, even if you want to believe otherwise because it doesn't fit with your opinions, since Neolithic farmers remains tested through out Europe show them to be mainly of Haplogroup G carriers mixed in with carriers of Haplogroups J, EV13, T, etc. I keep telling you it was EURASIAN Neolithic types who brought farming into Europe from Eurasia and studies back up this finding. Haplogroup G is found at high percentages in Eurasians types practically in the Caucasus region.

"Georgia: Among 61 samples taken in Georgia (2001), 30% were G. Among 77 samples taken in Georgia (2003), 31% were G. Georgia has the highest percentage of G among the general population recorded in any country. Among 66 samples taken in Georgia (2009), 31.6% were G2a (P15+). Of this 31.6% figure, 1.5% were G2a3a (M406+), and the remainder were unspecified other types of G2a.
In Caucasus 55% of 60 samples were found to be G as listed in a 2009 presentation by Khadizhat Dibirova. In a 2011 study,[36] 47% of 162 samples were found G2a. In Ossetia 48% of 10 samples were found G2a. Another 2011 study found among 58 samples that 12% were G2a1a (P18), 21% were G2a3b1 (P303) and 24% other G2a (P15)"

"Sudies of the ancient Y-DNA from the earlier Neolithic cave burials of Cardium pottery culture men shows they were mainly haplogroup G2a. These 'Neolithic lineages' accounted for 22% of the total European Y chromosome gene pool, and were predominantly found in Southern Europe (Greece, Italy, southeastern Bulgaria, southeastern Iberia)."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neolithic_Europe...

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#70575 Jul 25, 2013
DISASTER LOOMS wrote:
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cuz is.ra.el is synonymous with 'election':
isaiah 45
"4 For Jacob My servant’s sake,
And Israel My elect..."
remember jacob's name was changed to is.ra.el, suggesting that this was some kinda title.
and election is the process of selecting a people to represent god and his heritage, as a great nation.
jacob lost his election for good, after the roman destruction, as prophecied in daniel. and his election went to christ (the new covenant and new is.ra.el)...'the kingdom (election) will be taken from *YOU* and given to another people...stone that the builder rejected has become the corner stone...etc etc"
again all this follows daniels timeline, and history also validates these events. jacob's house has never recovered.
rev12 is giving us a scenario of the appearance of some future messiah, from the perspective of john. this could only be talk'n bout the millennial kingdom (2nd coming) or the tribulation kingdom (who i believe will be established by AA), as these would be the only two elections layout in the biblical timeline, after christ.
if you study the history of islam, you'll see that scenario is consistant with the early years of muhammad and the muslims in arabia.
the muslim empire became the new is.ra.el, after christ, and millennial kingdom cuz they fit the prophetic timeline perfectly, and they also represent a time (1,000+ years) where gentiles were not trampling on jerusalem.
you should also know that the kenites, were central to the foundation and formation of biblical israel. the hebrews lived with them for 40 years in the sinai (where the 5 books of moses were written probably by the kenties as they were the original scribes). they guided the hebrews to the 'promised land'. they developed the concept of the sanhedrin and were members of the supreme sanhedrin in jerusalem, and they were an important rabbinical family. and they likely introduced the hebrews to their god, YHWH.
these same kenites, broke off from the rest of the rabbinical class after the maccabee revolt, and were known as the 'essenes'. i suspect that the reason why they broke off, was because of the decision to allow edomites into their community which happened around the same time.
these essenes (kenites) later became the community where christianity (yahushua, john the baptist, the nazarenes, etc) came from.
and they also were the original muslims. in fact the aramaic translation for kenite is 'muslim'. in fact the qur'an is mostly based on gnostic (essene) christianity, and judaism.
there is no usurping here, bruh. the same ppl who gave us, judaism, also gave us christianity and islam. and will the ones to establish god's final everlasting kingdom.
Well, since you're TRYING to use Scripture to disprove the election of Israel, when in Scripture does it suggest that Israel lost their election.

According to Scripture, the election of Israel is ETERNAL, based on a promise that he SWORE to the forefathers, Abraham, Isaac & Jacob.

Now someone's a liar up in here...either you or G-D...and it ain't G-D!!!!

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#70576 Jul 25, 2013
Glimmer wrote:
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Obviously, west Africa was never a total land locked entity. There are some fact.
Well see thats were you are wrong again

now lets be senseable here I do understand that some of these native hamites did get caught in slavery but we must find out what happen in those times to really get a foot hold on who was sold.

Now according to European traders and explores and native FULANI MENDE people and their Leaders the people that were sold into the (Atlantic slave trade) were not native Africans I will explain

According to this book by Burton in 1864 called Mission to Gelele
http://www.burtoniana.org/books/1864-A%20Miss...

This book talks about a native africans from the Fulani people who was carrying out an ethnic cleansing policy of a people whom he claimed were not Africans.

The people he was referring to, according to him, were spread across the SUDAN. This territory is currently known as the interior regions of West Africa, Central and East Africa.

This is Mohammed Bello’s statement: regarding the people who spread across the SOODAN, in the interior of West Africa.

Quote " “The inhabitants of this province, it is supposed, originated from the remnant of the children of Canaan…….”

according to Bello, these people spread across the SUDAN, in the interior of West Africa he was enslaving were known as the descendants of people from canaan.

Now glimmer history is saying also that hebrews from Madagascar came here as well the Hebrew tribes that exist in madagascar are the following:

the Zafiraminia, the Merina, The Anakara Glimmer some estimates say at least a million of these people hit the shores of Virginia and south america.

So hebrews from east to west were Taken captive.

Now the only thing that you post is this DNA theory ok you must have watched the Isaiah Washington and anchorman, Ron Claiborne discover their African roots on Good Morning America.
Isaiah Washington and African Ancestry on GMA - YouTube

Now watch the video Glimmer DID YOU SPOT THE LIE? they made it brief, did you hear what Dr Bruce Jackson said in the video. Did you hear him say it is impossible to trace ones roots to a particular tribe or people in Africa?

glimmer, looms stop jumping on the DNA bandwagon.

also this comment by A medical anthropologist Sandra Lee of Stanford University said


"Proving parenthood is relatively simple. You get half of your DNA from each parent. That same equation makes it very difficult to prove deep lineage. You get only half of the DNA from each generation. After three generations, that's a half of a half of a half. You might not be carrying any identifiable DNA from any one specific ancestor."

Mrs Lee recommends that, given the current state of DNA science, family stories and public records are still the best tools for tracking ancestry.

So glimmer The Dna Database is too small DNA is not reliable.

native Africans new who they were Enslaving! and the White-race new also they took over 700,000 written accounts of HEBREWS living and being enslaved in Timbuktu and the slave coast.

IN other Words IT IS RECORDED INFO

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#70577 Jul 25, 2013
Glimmer wrote:
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Infact, many ancient and original Jews are absorbed in today's muslims. No doubt about that, as there were deep and complex interaction between the Jewish in Yemen and the newly forming muslim and other religions (including budah), over the legitimacy on the power to inherit the declining Judaism. Among the contestants, Caleb of the Axum Ethiopian orthodox defeated the Jewish Yesuf, as Caleb claimed the true solomonic descent. Actually, Mohammod the muslim prophet respected Ethiopians power, and sent his family to Ethiopia for safety. Koran to this day immunized Ethiopia from any attack. No one for sure knows that complex interruction at that time, but scholars believed many, especially the authentic pre-thalmud Jews became Muslims, and the remaining became Christians. Those that fled north were minor remainants, but survived even after several mixing.
No, Muhammad's uncle, Hamza Ibn Abd Al-Muttalib had a great deal of regard for Ethiopians and that was more so based on business transactions that Muhammad's uncle had been involved in with Ethiopia before Hamza died.

The Muhammad connection with Ethiopia came as a result of Muhammad having to flee Arabia because his own people at the time were not receptive of Al-Islaam and they ran his @zz out.

This treaty in which you speak of that supposedly "immunized attacks" by those who push Islaam through destructive means has been long since violated. In fact, Muhammad's carcass was barely cool before Arabia stormed East Afrika in the name of both Islaam and THEIR "prophet".

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#70578 Jul 25, 2013
JOHNS ON TOP OF IT wrote:
Its funny how the spawn of the invader element want to lay claim to everything in every land. But when. They enter your land..what do they do????
 The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly
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#70579 Jul 25, 2013
Glimmer,

Stop all of this argument with that dayum pagan and pay attention to this statement from: THE AMERICAN ANTHROPOLOGY ASSOCIATION!!!

You ARE MORE LIKELY TO BE 94% DIFFERENT COMPARED TO ANOTHER AHMARA...AND ONLY 6% DIFFERENT FROM AN NIOLOTIC/OMOTIC!!!

Evidence from the analysis of genetics (e.g., DNA) indicates that most physical variation, about 94%, lies within so-called racial groups. Conventional geographic "racial" groupings differ from one another only in about 6% of their genes!!!!!!!!!!

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Jeff

Framingham, MA

#70580 Jul 25, 2013
TRUTH HITMAN wrote:
<quoted text> Well see thats were you are wrong again
So glimmer The Dna Database is too small DNA is not reliable.
native Africans --> new <-- who they were Enslaving! and the White-race --> new <-- also they took over 700,000 written accounts of HEBREWS living and being enslaved in Timbuktu and the slave coast.
IN other Words IT IS RECORDED INFO
You are a crazy nutcase who doesn't even know the difference between KNEW and NEW, much less talk to Glim about genetics. Glimmer understands genetics much better then you do.

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#70581 Jul 25, 2013
This ancient Babylonian cult of the mother and child spread to other parts of the earth. You will find it in the Egyptian religion as Isis and Osiris. In Greece it is Venus and Adonis, and in the Hindu religion it is Ushas and Vishnu. The same cult prevails in various other localities. It appears in the Old Testament in Jeremiah where the Israelites are warned against offering sacrifices to "the Queen of Heaven." This Queen of Heaven is Semiramis, the wife of Nimrod, the original mother of the Mother and Child cult

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#70582 Jul 25, 2013
Glimmer wrote:
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You don't know who Abraham was. You atleast won't forget your root the Cape Malay were pagans as recent as 1700 A.D. How bold you are? Shameless!!
1 Chronicles 1:36;The sons of Eliphaz; Teman, and Omar, Zephi, and Gatam, Kenaz, and Timna, and Amalek.ok OMAN is OMAR EDOM son you see Jabal al Qamar is Oman , Edom grandson is Oman i.e Omar same peoples! Temen is Yemen an Omar is Oman,OMAR

o'-mar (omar, connected perhaps with 'amar, "speak"; Septuagint Oman or Omar): Grandson of Esau and son of Eliphaz in Gen 36:11; 1 Ch 1:36; given the title "duke" or "chief" in Gen 36:15. Oman is Omar the Septuagint in Egypt did Name CHANGE i see how it goes now! THE ARABS MIXED IN ETHIOPIA any that have they blood is EDOM, yes your a true BLACK edomite

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#70583 Jul 25, 2013
Jeremiah 50:25;The LORD hath opened his armoury, and hath brought forth the weapons of his indignation: for this is the work of the Lord GOD of hosts in the land of the Chaldeans.ok Persia would bust them jews up! they got in his kingdom to!538 Babylon got beat down an the peoples cut loose, ok check this Jeremiah 50:33;Thus saith the LORD of hosts; The children of Israel and the children of Judah were oppressed together: and all that took them captives held them fast; they refused to let them go. see some of ya'll think only the tribe of Judah went to Babylon Not so!because if that was the case Babylon sin would be just against Judah! no but Yisrael escaped to Judah doing the Assyrian Captivity! look this in 715BC,7 years before the Assyrians had taken off a few tribes,ok we pick up here!2 Chronicles 30:1;And Hezekiah sent to all Israel and Judah, and wrote letters also to Ephraim and Manasseh, that they should come to the house of the LORD at Jerusalem, to keep the passover unto the LORD God of Israel.2 Chronicles 30:2;The king, his officials,and the whole assembly in Jerusalem decided to celebrate the Passover in the second month.Make up Passover? i had to do one two years ago!ok follow this!we talking about the tribes being HOME doing the Assyrian kidnappings, 2 Chronicles 30:3 ;For they could not keep it at that time,because the priests had not sanctified themselves sufficiently,neither had the people gathered themselves together to Jerusalem.we was still out an about having fun after the Assyrians had taken a few of us!,2 Chronicles 30:4;And the thing pleased the king and all the congregation,2 Chronicles 30:5;So they established a decree to make proclamation throughout all Israel, from Beersheba even to Dan,that they should come to keep the passover unto the LORD God of Israel at Jerusalem: for they had not done it of a long time in such sort as it was written.check this out "from Beersheba even to Dan",thats our WHOLE LAND, Beersheba was the NEGEV desert ok Dan was the end of our Borders before you go into Syria,Kedesh gone be the end of our land so in 715BC,7 years after all the tribe but Judah suppose to be gone! but yet we still had Hebrews in the Land!2 Chronicles 30:6 ;So the posts went with the letters from the king and his princes throughout all Israel and Judah, and according to the commandment of the king, saying, Ye children of Israel, turn again unto the LORD God of Abraham, Isaac, and Israel,and he will return to the remnant of you, that are escaped out of the hand of the kings of Assyria.SEE ? we escaped an we was in Judah!remember the verse i just showed you!!Jeremiah 50:33;Thus saith the LORD of hosts; The children of Israel and the children of Judah were oppressed together:and all that took them captives held them fast; they refused to let them go.we was in Judah when Babylon came! Jeremiah said that in 588bc whiles we was running into africa,ok look what was said to the Hebrews the Assyrians took away 2 Chronicles 30:9;For if ye turn again unto the LORD, your brethren and your children shall find compassion before them that lead them captive, so that they shall come again into this land: for the LORD your God is gracious and merciful, and will not turn away his face from you,if ye return unto him.ok we knows the Saite Period of eygpt with Assyria kicked in in 698BC, so the hebrews came home from that Captivity because we went into africa from with the tribe of Judah,in 588BC,let me finish showing you we was in the Land when the Assyrians came an kidnap a few peoples,2 Chronicles 30:10;So the posts passed from city to city through the country of Ephraim and Manasseh even unto Zebulun: but they laughed them to scorn, and mocked them. you see that? 2 Chronicles 30:11;Nevertheless divers of Asher and Manasseh and of Zebulun humbled themselves, and came to Jerusalem,the WAR WITH ASSYRIA MEANT NOTHING TO US,tribe of Isschar, Manasseh,Zebulun, Ephriam, was alll at the Passover in 715BC, lost tribe is a Myth

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#70584 Jul 25, 2013
so we was all in the land of Judah when the Babylonians came, an we all went to africa, even the returns from Babylon made it to africa to get on slave ships to all points of globe! us HEBREWS are waking up! SHALOM HEBREWS!

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#70585 Jul 25, 2013
10;Genesis 49:10,The sceptre shall not depart from Judah, nor a lawgiver from between his feet, until Shiloh come; and unto him shall the gathering of the people be. THAT HAPPEN,OK Shiloh was the pre-Jerusalem capital and spiritual center of Israel we had ARK there first an devil kind got they hands on it i will show you this! ok check this Shiloh is reported to have been the religious center for Israel for approximately 370 years,ok we gone go into book of 1Samuel when we was 1 kingdom an, see the CREATOR was in Shiloh, the ARK was there this in 1100BC 1 Samuel 1:3;And this man went up out of his city yearly to worship and to sacrifice unto the LORD of hosts in Shiloh. And the two sons of Eli, Hophni and Phinehas, the priests of the LORD, ok they would got to Temple at Shiloh, see Samuel our first king CREATOR appeared to him in Shiloh, ok devil seed got they hand on Ark so that lie the Ethiopian is saying cant nobody see or touch Ark check this them mixed devils was getting the best of us in a battle an we went an got the Ark,an lost it!Philistines was mixed Africans of Canaan that had got a Nephilim mix to them, ok we fought them check this!1 Samuel 4:3;And when the people were come into the camp, the elders of Israel said, Wherefore hath the LORD smitten us to day before the Philistines? Let us fetch the ark of the covenant of the LORD out of Shiloh unto us, that, when it cometh among us, it may save us out of the hand of our enemies.1 Samuel 4:4 ;So the people sent to Shiloh, that they might bring from thence the ark of the covenant of the LORD of hosts, which dwelleth between the cherubims: and the two sons of Eli, Hophni and Phinehas, were there with the ark of the covenant of God.1 Samuel 4:5;And when the ark of the covenant of the LORD came into the camp, all Israel shouted with a great shout, so that the earth rang again.ok check this, they take Ark from us 1 Samuel 4:11;And the ark of God was taken; and the two sons of Eli, Hophni and Phinehas, were slain, ok check this again look 10;Genesis 49:10,The sceptre shall not depart from Judah, nor a lawgiver from between his feet, until Shiloh come; and unto him shall the gathering of the people be.OK when our Daddy Jacob said that it was in 1859BC what King Saul did was in 1070 ok that 789 years later, it was on time it happen see if the CREATOR appear its gone be some BIG change ok check this the Ark did some stuff to them where they gave it up!!they gave up some gold but we gone really get into Shiloh, see we was sinning check this 1 Samuel 7:8;And the children of Israel said to Samuel, Cease not to cry unto the LORD our God for us, that he will save us out of the hand of the Philistines.ok check this see we beat them off they came from up the coast they had ships,1 Samuel 7:13;So the Philistines were subdued, and they came no more into the coast of Israel: and the hand of the LORD was against the Philistines all the days of Samuel.Amorites was in the land! ok check this we wanted a king about that time we want some ruler over us like the nations around us we was fresh from Egypt, we was trying out best to be a Nation,Samuel was the leader, the Prophet leader, then our first king came about Saul beat down Nahash the Ammonite, ok check this 1 Samuel 11:11;And it was so on the morrow, that Saul put the people in three companies; and they came into the midst of the host in the morning watch, and slew the Ammonites until the heat of the day: and it came to pass, that they which remained were scattered, so that two of them were not left together.look at this tis when we get right like now check this we wanted a king ok an every time we did wrong we had to pay thats why we been in bondage so long is because we had alot of sin build up check this< 1 Samuel 12:10;And they cried unto the LORD, and said, We have sinned, because we have forsaken the LORD, and have served Baalim and Ashtaroth: but now deliver us out of the hand of our enemies, and we will serve thee

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#70586 Jul 25, 2013
look 2 Chronicles 20:9;If, when evil cometh upon us, as the sword, judgment, or pestilence, or famine, we stand before this house, and in thy presence,(for thy name is in this house,) and cry unto thee in our affliction, then thou wilt hear and help.YOU SEE THEM WORDS, ok look,Jeremiah 52:12;Now in the fifth month, in the tenth day of the month, which was the nineteenth year of Nebuchadrezzar king of Babylon, came Nebuzaradan, captain of the guard, which served the king of Babylon, into Jerusalem,Jeremiah 52:13;And burned the house of the LORD, and the king's house; and all the houses of Jerusalem, and all the houses of the great men, burned he with fire: we wouldn't NEVER WANT TO COME BACK seeing the Temple GO UP! WATCH THIS, Jeremiah 43:2;Then spake Azariah the son of Hoshaiah, and Johanan the son of Kareah, and all the proud men, saying unto Jeremiah, Thou speakest falsely: the LORD our God hath not sent thee to say, Go not into Egypt to sojourn there:Jeremiah 43:3;But Baruch the son of Neriah sets you on against us, for to deliver us into the hand of the Chaldeans, that they might put us to death, and carry us away captives into Babylon.YOU see them words? we wouldnt want to stay Knowing the Burned Temple down, that alone would make us Flee, an thats what was Happening the CREATOR want ed us up off HIS land an we had Curse to do an being next to africa, it was just right! Perfect!! I show everybody where we could have got take to ARABIA by Ismael the Hebrew, but the thing is we seen Temple get Destroyed we wasnt trying to stay in our Lands, one mo time look,2 Chronicles 20:9;If, when evil cometh upon us, as the sword, judgment, or pestilence, or famine, we stand before this house, and in thy presence,(for thy name is in this house,) and cry unto thee in our affliction, then thou wilt hear and help, OK WE WOULD SEE WE COULDN'T GET NO HELP WITH TEMPLE GONE so we would run into africa LIKE NEVER BEFORE! an we would high tail it Pass Egypt because we knew trouble was on the way! THESE DEVILS BEEN PLAYING WITH US they knows we the true Hebrews

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#70587 Jul 25, 2013
unfazed wrote:
J is from the Caucasus.....
They come from Japhet too.
....he yo pappy.
the gene that gave rise to J migrated outta south asia. i use to think J was aryan (japheth) but it's not. R is Japheth (and maybe some Q).

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#70588 Jul 25, 2013
Ben YISRAEL wrote:
This ancient Babylonian cult of the mother and child spread to other parts of the earth. You will find it in the Egyptian religion as Isis and Osiris. In Greece it is Venus and Adonis, and in the Hindu religion it is Ushas and Vishnu. The same cult prevails in various other localities. It appears in the Old Testament in Jeremiah where the Israelites are warned against offering sacrifices to "the Queen of Heaven." This Queen of Heaven is Semiramis, the wife of Nimrod, the original mother of the Mother and Child cult
ALL roads lead back to Babylon...ESPECIALLY in terms of religion...religion and politics.
JMahlum

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#70589 Jul 25, 2013
who knows who the real jews are. as far as i'm concern, they were the same looking and culture tp the cannanites, phoenicians, assyrians, chaldians (arabs) only difference was the language and religion. but they could of also been black (ethiopians) as far as i'm concern since moses had an ethiopian wife, mistaken an jewish soldier for an egyptian (who were black as well = kemetic), so who knows.

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#70590 Jul 25, 2013
vampiYAH stabB wrote:
<quoted text>Well, since you're TRYING to use Scripture to disprove the election of Israel, when in Scripture does it suggest that Israel lost their election.
According to Scripture, the election of Israel is ETERNAL, based on a promise that he SWORE to the forefathers, Abraham, Isaac & Jacob.
Now someone's a liar up in here...either you or G-D...and it ain't G-D!!!!
Jacob, not is.ra.el.

israel is eternal but those groups who represent her, isn't. this should be obvious as the house of jacob has never recovered since the roman destruction. but lots of other stuff going on since then.

**why didn't you deal with the points i outlined in my post?

anyway..

Dan9
"4 And I prayed unto the Lord my God, and made my confession, and said, O Lord, the great and dreadful God, keeping the covenant and mercy to them that love him, and to them that keep his commandments;

5 We have sinned, and have committed iniquity, and have done wickedly, and have rebelled, even by departing from thy precepts and from thy judgments:

6 Neither have we hearkened unto thy servants the prophets, which spake in thy name to our kings, our princes, and our fathers, and to all the people of the land."

daniel goes on pointing out jacob's transgressions...

jump to 24
"24 Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy."

this would be the final ultimatum for the house of jacob. and then daniel continues to describe the appearance of the annointed one, and destruction of jerusalem, etc.

moving forward we find this in the NT:

Mathrew 21

"33Hear another parable: There was a certain householder, which planted a vineyard, and hedged it round about, and digged a winepress in it, and built a tower, and let it out to husbandmen, and went into a far country: 34And when the time of the fruit drew near, he sent his servants to the husbandmen, that they might receive the fruits of it. 35And the husbandmen took his servants, and beat one, and killed another, and stoned another. 36Again, he sent other servants more than the first: and they did unto them likewise. 37But last of all he sent unto them his son, saying, They will reverence my son. 38But when the husbandmen saw the son, they said among themselves, This is the heir; come, let us kill him, and let us seize on his inheritance. 39And they caught him, and cast him out of the vineyard, and slew him. 40When the lord therefore of the vineyard cometh, what will he do unto those husbandmen? 41They say unto him, He will miserably destroy those wicked men, and will let out his vineyard unto other husbandmen, which shall render him the fruits in their seasons.

42Jesus saith unto them, Did ye never read in the scriptures, The stone which the builders rejected, the same is become the head of the corner: this is the Lord's doing, and it is marvellous in our eyes?

43Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof. 44And whosoever shall fall on this stone shall be broken: but on whomsoever it shall fall, it will grind him to powder.
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notice this stone is not talk'n bout the current followers of christ, but is a back reference to dan 2 - "the stone cutout without hands and fill the whole earth..."

which is the timeline for the 2nd coming cuz this happens during the time of divided rome - medeivel era.

dude, this ain't rocket science. everything is right there for those who's minds aren't clowded by evangelical doctrine. ;)

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#70591 Jul 25, 2013
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<quoted text>Well, since you're TRYING to use Scripture to disprove the election of Israel, when in Scripture does it suggest that Israel lost their election.
According to Scripture, the election of Israel is ETERNAL, based on a promise that he SWORE to the forefathers, Abraham, Isaac & Jacob.
Now someone's a liar up in here...either you or G-D...and it ain't G-D!!!!
Jacob, not is.ra.el.

israel is eternal but those groups who represent her, isn't. this should be obvious as the house of jacob has never recovered since the roman destruction. but lots of other stuff going on since then.

**why didn't you deal with the points i outlined in my post?

anyway..

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"4 And I prayed unto the Lord my God, and made my confession, and said, O Lord, the great and dreadful God, keeping the covenant and mercy to them that love him, and to them that keep his commandments;

5 We have sinned, and have committed iniquity, and have done wickedly, and have rebelled, even by departing from thy precepts and from thy judgments:

6 Neither have we hearkened unto thy servants the prophets, which spake in thy name to our kings, our princes, and our fathers, and to all the people of the land."

daniel goes on pointing out jacob's transgressions...

jump to 24
"24 Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy."

this would be the final ultimatum for the house of jacob. and then daniel continues to describe the appearance of the annointed one, and destruction of jerusalem, etc.

moving forward we find this in the NT:

Mathrew 21

"33Hear another parable: There was a certain householder, which planted a vineyard, and hedged it round about, and digged a winepress in it, and built a tower, and let it out to husbandmen, and went into a far country: 34And when the time of the fruit drew near, he sent his servants to the husbandmen, that they might receive the fruits of it. 35And the husbandmen took his servants, and beat one, and killed another, and stoned another. 36Again, he sent other servants more than the first: and they did unto them likewise. 37But last of all he sent unto them his son, saying, They will reverence my son. 38But when the husbandmen saw the son, they said among themselves, This is the heir; come, let us kill him, and let us seize on his inheritance. 39And they caught him, and cast him out of the vineyard, and slew him. 40When the lord therefore of the vineyard cometh, what will he do unto those husbandmen? 41They say unto him, He will miserably destroy those wicked men, and will let out his vineyard unto other husbandmen, which shall render him the fruits in their seasons.

42Jesus saith unto them, Did ye never read in the scriptures, The stone which the builders rejected, the same is become the head of the corner: this is the Lord's doing, and it is marvellous in our eyes?

43Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof. 44And whosoever shall fall on this stone shall be broken: but on whomsoever it shall fall, it will grind him to powder.
-----

notice this stone is not talk'n bout the current followers of christ, but is a back reference to dan 2 - "the stone cutout without hands and fill the whole earth..."

which is the timeline for the 2nd coming cuz this happens during the time of divided rome - medeivel era.

dude, this ain't rocket science. everything is right there for those who's minds aren't clouded by evangelical doctrine. ;)

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