Hebrew Israelite

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Since: Oct 12

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#68498 Jun 28, 2013
African AE wrote:
<quoted text>Glimmer who built the pyramids? Just wondering what you think? Those bitches on the other site I went claim the pyramids were built by 100% black Africans. I find that hard to believe, seeing Nubians,Ethiopians and others have large amounts of Eurasian DNA!
No single man of today's European looks ever existed in the ancient Egypt. Certain pharaoh was said to have carried haplotype R, but that was for sure an indigenous 'R' like that of Chadic people. Linguistically and given certain archeological evidence, the ancient Egypt was believed to be largely Afro-Asiatic. Still, modern scholars believe ancient Egyptians are rooted from Nile Vally (Ethiopia and other white Nile basins). However, the recent genetic finding for some of the pharoes, linked to the Southern, Central and West African. I still believe ancient Egypt was largely Afro-asciatic and their roots are ancient Ethiopian Cushites, Nubians and northern Kenyans. Most of the pharoes are not tested and the test was indeed difficult due to the mummification process that damaged the DNA.

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Since: Oct 12

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#68500 Jun 28, 2013
JOHNS ON TOP OF IT wrote:
<quoted text>
Yeah, every tine pose the question (s), everybody retreats to tgeir cubby holes. And ABSOLUETLY NONE EVEN ATTEMPT TO PRESENT ANY KIND OF: "ANTHROPOLOGICAL (BONE...WITH -E1B1A- MARROW RESULTS) EVIDENCE. 2. THEY HAVEN'T PRODUCED IN ARCHEALOGICALEVEIDENCE!!! 3. THEY ALWAYS BRING UP THE FACT (WHICH I'VE PRESENTED NUMERUS TIMES IN THE PAST) THST PYGMIES HAVE BEEN IN WEST AFRICA FOR 12,000 YEARS. DUUUUUH???????? AS IF WE DON'T KNOW THST ALREADY. THEY'RE JUST REPEATING WHAT'S ALRWADY BEEN SAID TO THEM BY ME.
You've seen all of their claimes. One day they'll claim tgat AA ancestorts have been in West Africa 30,000 years (I SMASH THEM ON THAT )!!! The next day they vlsim AA ancestors eere in West Africa for 20,000 yesrs (I SMASH THEM ON THAT)!!! Now they clsim AA ANCESTORS HAVE BEEN IN WEST AFRICA FOR 8,000 YEARS (ALL OF THE ABOVE STATED BY BY GLIMMER...AND OTHERS WITH THE 20 & 30,000YEAR YEAR "LIE" )!!! Ehst a bunch of bull shinola yhese fools judt keep on spinning!!! LOL!!!!!!!!!!
I'M PREPARED TO SMASH EVERY LIE TGESE TROLLS COME UP WITH. I've put forth way too much evidence!!!!!
You are mis-quotting me. I hope that is not deliberate. There was no single source that says E1b1a centered in areas other than west Africa before, 8000 years. All what I was saying is this. The relevant period that we should refer in dealing with the topic of Hebrew can't be more than 8,000 years. And this period is very recent and actually as per the wiki, E1b1a has been largely restricted in West Africa for atleast 15,000 years, until the recent Bantu expansion. I probably based on your claim of years like 8,000 years and might have responded to that. No lie!
slave coast

Tacoma, WA

#68501 Jun 28, 2013
African AE wrote:
<quoted text>If the Mande came from North Africa they must carry Eurasian DNA because Berbers have lived in North Africa for thousands of years. I will look at their DNA
Haha. U dont pick and choose what part of my post to answer. Answer what AA ancestor can u place in west Africa before 3000 years ago.

I'll wait.

Oh yeah.

The mande

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bafour
slave coast

Tacoma, WA

#68502 Jun 28, 2013
Glimmer wrote:
<quoted text>
You are mis-quotting me. I hope that is not deliberate. There was no single source that says E1b1a centered in areas other than west Africa before, 8000 years. All what I was saying is this. The relevant period that we should refer in dealing with the topic of Hebrew can't be more than 8,000 years. And this period is very recent and actually as per the wiki, E1b1a has been largely restricted in West Africa for atleast 15,000 years, until the recent Bantu expansion. I probably based on your claim of years like 8,000 years and might have responded to that. No lie!
. Got any info on the ewe, mande, Tikar, Bamileke, ashanti, Igbo migration into west Africa before 3000 years ago.?

Patiently waiting.....
slave coast

Tacoma, WA

#68503 Jun 28, 2013
slave coast wrote:
<quoted text>
Haha. U dont pick and choose what part of my post to answer. Answer what AA ancestor can u place in west Africa before 3000 years ago.
I'll wait.
Oh yeah.
The mande
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bafour
The proto north African.

Any idea what proto means?

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Since: Oct 12

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#68504 Jun 29, 2013
slave coast wrote:
<quoted text>. Got any info on the ewe, mande, Tikar, Bamileke, ashanti, Igbo migration into west Africa before 3000 years ago.?
Patiently waiting.....
Try to learn how to use DNA information to trace the place and time of origin of ethnic group. The groups you mentioned all are overwhelming E1b1a carriers, and the origin of and expansion of E1b1a is the same as their own history. You will learn, these people carrying E1b1a lived in west Africa for 20,000 to 30,000 years. You can also see the Ethnic groups that shared the same hystory.

E-V38

Origins

"The discovery of two SNPs (V38 and V100) by Trombetta et al.(2011) significantly redefined the E-V38 phylogenetic tree. This led the authors to suggest that E-V38 may have originated in East Africa. V38 joins the West African-affiliated E-M2 and the northern East African-affiliated E-M329 with an earlier common ancestor who, like E-P2, may have also originated in East Africa.[2] It is possible that soon after the evolution of E-V38, trans-Saharan migrants carried the E-V38 marker to northern Central Africa and/or West Africa where the more common E-M2 marker later arose and became prolific within the last 20,000-30,000 years.[1][3]

The downstreams SNP E-M180 possibly originated on the moist south-central Saharan savannah/grassland of northern West Africa during the early Holocene period. Much of the population that carried E-M2 retreated to southern West Africa with the drying of the Sahara. These later people migrated from Southeastern Nigeria and Cameroon ~8.0 kya to Central Africa, East Africa, and Southern Africa causing or following the Bantu expansion.[4][5][6] According to Wood et al.(2005) and Rosa et al.(2007), such population movements from West Africa changed the pre-existing population Y chromosomal diversity in Western, Central, Southern and southern East Africa, replacing the previous haplogroups frequencies in these areas with the now dominant E1b1a1 lineages. Traces of earlier inhabitants, however, can be observed today in these regions via the presence of the Y DNA haplogroups A1a, A1b, A2, A3, and B-M60 that are common in certain populations, such as the Mbuti and Khoisan"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_E-V38
African AE

Brackenfell, South Africa

#68505 Jun 29, 2013
Glimmer wrote:
<quoted text>
No single man of today's European looks ever existed in the ancient Egypt. Certain pharaoh was said to have carried haplotype R, but that was for sure an indigenous 'R' like that of Chadic people. Linguistically and given certain archeological evidence, the ancient Egypt was believed to be largely Afro-Asiatic. Still, modern scholars believe ancient Egyptians are rooted from Nile Vally (Ethiopia and other white Nile basins). However, the recent genetic finding for some of the pharoes, linked to the Southern, Central and West African. I still believe ancient Egypt was largely Afro-asciatic and their roots are ancient Ethiopian Cushites, Nubians and northern Kenyans. Most of the pharoes are not tested and the test was indeed difficult due to the mummification process that damaged the DNA.
Haplogroup R originates in south Asia. It explains a lot. Mixed race for sure!
slave coast

Tacoma, WA

#68506 Jun 29, 2013
Glimmer wrote:
<quoted text>
Try to learn how to use DNA information to trace the place and time of origin of ethnic group. The groups you mentioned all are overwhelming E1b1a carriers, and the origin of and expansion of E1b1a is the same as their own history. You will learn, these people carrying E1b1a lived in west Africa for 20,000 to 30,000 years. You can also see the Ethnic groups that shared the same hystory.
E-V38
Origins
"The discovery of two SNPs (V38 and V100) by Trombetta et al.(2011) significantly redefined the E-V38 phylogenetic tree. This led the authors to suggest that E-V38 may have originated in East Africa. V38 joins the West African-affiliated E-M2 and the northern East African-affiliated E-M329 with an earlier common ancestor who, like E-P2, may have also originated in East Africa.[2] It is possible that soon after the evolution of E-V38, trans-Saharan migrants carried the E-V38 marker to northern Central Africa and/or West Africa where the more common E-M2 marker later arose and became prolific within the last 20,000-30,000 years.[1][3]
The downstreams SNP E-M180 possibly originated on the moist south-central Saharan savannah/grassland of northern West Africa during the early Holocene period. Much of the population that carried E-M2 retreated to southern West Africa with the drying of the Sahara. These later people migrated from Southeastern Nigeria and Cameroon ~8.0 kya to Central Africa, East Africa, and Southern Africa causing or following the Bantu expansion.[4][5][6] According to Wood et al.(2005) and Rosa et al.(2007), such population movements from West Africa changed the pre-existing population Y chromosomal diversity in Western, Central, Southern and southern East Africa, replacing the previous haplogroups frequencies in these areas with the now dominant E1b1a1 lineages. Traces of earlier inhabitants, however, can be observed today in these regions via the presence of the Y DNA haplogroups A1a, A1b, A2, A3, and B-M60 that are common in certain populations, such as the Mbuti and Khoisan"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_E-V38
Lol.
ccc

San Diego, CA

#68507 Jun 29, 2013
Sinajuavi wrote:
<quoted text>
Wrong on every count. Jews are Hebrews. You are not.
Egypt was not all black. The Hebrews were not black. Hebrews could have been in Lower Egypt and passed as Egyptians, who also, many of them, were of Eurasian type.
But I'm sure they still wore their Hebrew clothing and so were recognizeable anyway. Why would the Egyptians care if Hebrews were there? All sorts if foreigners were in Egypt.
You are not a Hebrew.
no Egyptians were said to be hamites and everyone knows hamites are black so the Egyptian were black and you could not tell Israel apart from Egypt
slave coast

Tacoma, WA

#68508 Jun 29, 2013
slave coast wrote:
<quoted text>. Got any info on the ewe, mande, Tikar, Bamileke, ashanti, Igbo migration into west Africa before 3000 years ago.?
Patiently waiting.....
Glimmy tried and failed, wanna take a stab at it?
slave coast

Tacoma, WA

#68509 Jun 29, 2013
Glimmer wrote:
<quoted text>
Try to learn how to use DNA information to trace the place and time of origin of ethnic group. The groups you mentioned all are overwhelming E1b1a carriers, and the origin of and expansion of E1b1a is the same as their own history. You will learn, these people carrying E1b1a lived in west Africa for 20,000 to 30,000 years. You can also see the Ethnic groups that shared the same hystory.
E-V38
Origins
"The discovery of two SNPs (V38 and V100) by Trombetta et al.(2011) significantly redefined the E-V38 phylogenetic tree. This led the authors to suggest that E-V38 may have originated in East Africa. V38 joins the West African-affiliated E-M2 and the northern East African-affiliated E-M329 with an earlier common ancestor who, like E-P2, may have also originated in East Africa.[2] It is possible that soon after the evolution of E-V38, trans-Saharan migrants carried the E-V38 marker to northern Central Africa and/or West Africa where the more common E-M2 marker later arose and became prolific within the last 20,000-30,000 years.[1][3]
The downstreams SNP E-M180 possibly originated on the moist south-central Saharan savannah/grassland of northern West Africa during the early Holocene period. Much of the population that carried E-M2 retreated to southern West Africa with the drying of the Sahara. These later people migrated from Southeastern Nigeria and Cameroon ~8.0 kya to Central Africa, East Africa, and Southern Africa causing or following the Bantu expansion.[4][5][6] According to Wood et al.(2005) and Rosa et al.(2007), such population movements from West Africa changed the pre-existing population Y chromosomal diversity in Western, Central, Southern and southern East Africa, replacing the previous haplogroups frequencies in these areas with the now dominant E1b1a1 lineages. Traces of earlier inhabitants, however, can be observed today in these regions via the presence of the Y DNA haplogroups A1a, A1b, A2, A3, and B-M60 that are common in certain populations, such as the Mbuti and Khoisan"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_E-V38
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ewe_people
African AE

Cape Town, South Africa

#68510 Jun 29, 2013
ccc wrote:
<quoted text> no Egyptians were said to be hamites and everyone knows hamites are black so the Egyptian were black and you could not tell Israel apart from Egypt
Nope Hamites are also Asians.
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Since: Mar 13

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#68511 Jun 29, 2013
Black Israelites make a White Jew Cry



ccc

San Diego, CA

#68512 Jun 29, 2013
African AE wrote:
<quoted text>No you not! You are more related to Sub-Saharan Africans and not Middle Eastern people. You more closely related to the Khoisan! The REAL ancestors of the ancient Israelites are Middle Eastern Jews/Samaritans and the Sephardi Jews. Ethiopians are NOT related to any of them.
Lam 4:8 Their visage is blacker than a coal; they are not known in the streets: their skin cleaveth to their bones; it is withered, it is become like a stick.
Lam 5:10 Our skin was black like an oven because of the terrible famine.Jer 14:2 Judah mourneth, and the gates thereof languish; they are black unto the ground; and the cry of Jerusalem is gone up.Ss 1:6 Look not upon me, because I [am] black, because the sun hath looked upon me: my mother's children were angry with me; they made me the keeper of the vineyards; [but] mine own vineyard have I not kept

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Since: Oct 12

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#68513 Jun 29, 2013
African AE wrote:
<quoted text>Haplogroup R originates in south Asia. It explains a lot. Mixed race for sure!
R in chadic people is over 25,000 years old, hence chadic people today are actually African, not Europian. Actually, there is also a theory that explains R is originally from Africa. I am not sure about that:

http://www.maxwellsci.com/print/crjbs/v2-294-...
ccc

San Diego, CA

#68514 Jun 29, 2013
African AE wrote:
<quoted text>Nope Hamites are also Asians.
Please tell me how Asians are hamites ham was the land of africa

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#68515 Jun 29, 2013
African AE wrote:
<quoted text>Nope Hamites are also Asians.
Africa is vast continent with variety of people. Actually, West Africans are just 3,000 years expansionists like spores. Hamites are purely northern African and Egypt was called land of Kam and Afro-Asciatic had origin in North-East Africa and this part of the continenet was strongly tied with the ancient middle east. Stop your non-sense understanding of Africa as just west African type.
ccc

San Diego, CA

#68516 Jun 29, 2013
see how African AE won't respond must be shocked with the true
ccc

San Diego, CA

#68517 Jun 29, 2013
Glimmer wrote:
<quoted text>
Africa is vast continent with variety of people. Actually, West Africans are just 3,000 years expansionists like spores. Hamites are purely northern African and Egypt was called land of Kam and Afro-Asciatic had origin in North-East Africa and this part of the continenet was strongly tied with the ancient middle east. Stop your non-sense understanding of Africa as just west African type.
actually it was kham in Hebrew but you just proved that Egypt was ham was is a dark race like the shem so thank you
ccc

San Diego, CA

#68518 Jun 29, 2013
and didn't I gave you poor of the Israelites skin appearance Ham (Khawm) in Hebrew means BLACK, HOT AND BURNT.
Ham had four sons,

1. CUSH (Ethiopians / Cushites & Nubians),
2. MIZRAIM (Egyptians / Khemet),
3. PHUT (Ancient Libyans or Somalia),
4. CANAAN (Canaanite, the original inhabitants of the land of Israel) genesis 10:6-19.

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