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#63457 May 14, 2013
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The nine saints were Meditranian people, like Ethiopians today. We shared common values from the ancient, while West Africa was totally unknown by the world and of course from different race. i.e, they were our own people.
That's what's wrong with yo head!!!!!! Its speculations but they be ib syriac, but that's not the point, and it shallow for my discussion! See,

Ben, guys, listen , its Tertullianuses lectures/synods that taught the linkes od the nine demons, and they used all his ways to go to ethiopia and establish demon worship and killed the angel ARWA!!!!!!!!!!

Go to that my synod laodicia link again and see that is was the Christians that tertullianus stopped from invoking angels!!!!!!!!!! He stopped Christian practices!!!!!!!!!

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#63460 May 14, 2013
Correction:
That's what's wrong with yo head!!!!!! Its speculations that they are meditteranians, but they be in syria, but that's not the point, and debating where thet are from is too shallow for my discussion bcos all I'm saying is that tertuiilanus raised many demons and the nine saints are some of them! See,

Ben, guys, listen , its Tertullianus's lectures/synods that taught the likes of the nine demons, and they used all his ways to go to ethiopia and establish demon worship (claiming its true Christianity) and killed the angel ARWA!!!!!!!!!!

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#63461 May 14, 2013
Ben YISRAEL wrote:
Schlozer assumed that Abraham the eponymous Hebrew ancestor was of Semitic origin based upon the information in the Bible. He wrongly reasoned that since Abraham spoke Hebrew (a language which unknown to Schlozer was indigenous to Canaan) Hebrew should be a Semitic language. His work laid the grounds for the automatic but uncorroborated association of ancient Hebrews with the Caucasian family of nation. The flimsy foundation of this entire argument has run into problems with wider distributed access to source works that underlie scholarly research.
Good post.

Its qute clear in scripture that The ISRAELITES (even though they understood it) did not speak the same language as the Syrians/Persians/Babylonians.

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#63462 May 14, 2013
* Were not from the same language family.

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#63463 May 14, 2013
The Psalme of David 126

1 When THE CREATOR TURNETH AGAIN THE CAPTIVITY OF SION, then shall We be like unto them that dream.

2 Then shall Our mouth be filled with laughter, and Our tongue with joy. Then shall it be said among the heathen: THE CREATOR hath done great things for Them.

3 Ye THE CREATOR hath done great things for Us already, whereof We rejoice.

4 TURN OUR CAPTIVITY, O' CREATOR, as the rivers in the South.

5 They that sow in tears, shall reap in joy.

6 HE that now goeth HIS way weeping and beareth good SEED, shall come again with joy, and bring HIS sheaves with HIM.

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#63464 May 14, 2013
The Cult of Black Hebrew Israelites - Religion - Nairaland

If you or someone you know has joined the Black Hebrew Israelites (BHI), let me say you are making a huge mistake following this cult. The BHI cult holds to various false doctrines, heresies and lies such as denying Jesus Christ's divinity and the virgin birth claiming Joesph is Christ's father thus making Mary and immoral woman and Jesus a illegitimate Son.

This cult is essentially a black version of the lie of British Israelism. BHI also mimics the lies of Mormon teaching. Mormonism teaches that "the real Jews" are the Native Indians of North America. Likewise British Israelism teaches that "the real Jews" are Europeans. The Black Hebrew Israelites believe the same except that they, black people in America, are "the real Jews." And before someone claims I am a racist I would have you to know that I am a black woman and have had people from the BHI try to get me to join their cult.

The Black Hebrew Israelite cult is just that, a cult. BHI follows false doctrines and damnable heresies and is not even historically accurate, any amount of research will prove that. Many members or followers of this cult try to twist Scripture to substantiate their false teachings but like so many other false religions this cult falls flat on its face when shown the truth of God's word. Which simply is that Jesus is God, born of a virgin and is the sinner's Saviour and Christ. The Law cannot be kept by any one and attempting to keep the law will not earn your salvation.

Black people are not the "real Jews" or one of the lost tribes and you know what? It doesn't matter because no matter who you are or what color your skin is your a sinner in need of salvation. And Jesus Christ came in the flesh and lived a sinless life shed His precious blood and died on the cross to save you. That's all that matters. If you believe in Jesus Christ as your Lord and Saviour according to the Scriptures then you shall be saved.

The following video is made by KingdoMentality and shows an interview he had with some followers of the Black Hebrew Israelite cult.

http://trulyforjesus.blogspot.com/2011/11/cul...

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#63465 May 14, 2013
Question: "Who are the Black Hebrews / Black Israelites?"

Answer: The terms “Black Hebrews” and “Black Israelites” refer as a categorical whole to several independent sub-sects whose unifying characteristic is that their members are of black African descent who claim Hebrew / Israelite ancestry. Apart from this unifying characteristic, however, these sub-sects are very distinct from one another.

For example, members of the Original African Hebrew Israelite Nation of Jerusalem (or the African Israelites, for short) believe that, after the Roman expulsion of the Jews from the land of Israel, many Jews migrated to West Africa. From there, their descendants were transported by slave ship to the United States, where the group began in the 1960s. According to this view, the biblical Hebrews of the Old Testament times had multiracial descendants.

Members of the Nation of Yahweh, on the other hand, believe that all of the Old Testament prophets, Jesus Christ, and God Himself are all black. They believe that all whites, but especially Jews, are infidels, whom they call “white devils.” Only blacks are “true Jews.” This group is considered a black supremacist group by many and has a history of violence and terror.

In 1966, African Israelite founder and leader Ben Ammi (then name literally means “Son of My People,” formerly Ben Carter of Chicago) claimed to have been visited by the angel Gabriel. According to Ben Ammi, Gabriel instructed him to “lead the children of Israel to the Promised Land, and establish the long-awaited Kingdom of God.” Ben Ammi then established the Original African Hebrew Israelite Nation of Jerusalem and led approximately 400 members to the West African nation of Liberia for a two-and-a-half year period of purification. From there, those who remained for the entire two-and-a-half years began migrating to Israel in waves, beginning in 1969.

Read more: http://www.gotquestions.org/black-hebrews-isr...

http://www.gotquestions.org/black-hebrews-isr...

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#63466 May 14, 2013
Black Hebrew Israelites

Urban Dictionary Define:

A group of black people who believe that they are the real israelites, they can usually be found preaching on street corners in NYC. They believe that all whites are going to hell no matter what they do. When you call them racists they say its not racist it's the truth. They shout obscenities calling white people faggots, devils or edomites. One of their favorite things to do is twist the words of the bible around to make it say what ever they want it to say. It's usually completely false and wind up looking like fools.

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php...

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#63468 May 14, 2013
They are doing the work of the jews.
They and the jews have the jewish satanic star.

They all have the same spirit and beliefs as you.
With the exception, they haven't enslaved, killed, invaded, stolen or usurped the TRUE ISRAELITES Heritage.

Also they AT LEAST quote directly from scripture, unlike you and jews. The didn't kill CHRIST, or the Prophets.
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#63469 May 14, 2013
Glimmer wrote:
Black Hebrew Israelites
Urban Dictionary Define:
A group of black people who believe that they are the real israelites, they can usually be found preaching on street corners in NYC. They believe that all whites are going to hell no matter what they do. When you call them racists they say its not racist it's the truth. They shout obscenities calling white people faggots, devils or edomites. One of their favorite things to do is twist the words of the bible around to make it say what ever they want it to say. It's usually completely false and wind up looking like fools.
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php...
Oh so the medebay has turned to BHI?

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#63470 May 14, 2013
Glimmer wrote:
Question: "Who are the Black Hebrews / Black Israelites?"
Answer: The terms “Black Hebrews” and “Black Israelites” refer as a categorical whole to several independent sub-sects whose unifying characteristic is that their members are of black African descent who claim Hebrew / Israelite ancestry. Apart from this unifying characteristic, however, these sub-sects are very distinct from one another.
For example, members of the Original African Hebrew Israelite Nation of Jerusalem (or the African Israelites, for short) believe that, after the Roman expulsion of the Jews from the land of Israel, many Jews migrated to West Africa. From there, their descendants were transported by slave ship to the United States, where the group began in the 1960s. According to this view, the biblical Hebrews of the Old Testament times had multiracial descendants.
Members of the Nation of Yahweh, on the other hand, believe that all of the Old Testament prophets, Jesus Christ, and God Himself are all black. They believe that all whites, but especially Jews, are infidels, whom they call “white devils.” Only blacks are “true Jews.” This group is considered a black supremacist group by many and has a history of violence and terror.
In 1966, African Israelite founder and leader Ben Ammi (then name literally means “Son of My People,” formerly Ben Carter of Chicago) claimed to have been visited by the angel Gabriel. According to Ben Ammi, Gabriel instructed him to “lead the children of Israel to the Promised Land, and establish the long-awaited Kingdom of God.” Ben Ammi then established the Original African Hebrew Israelite Nation of Jerusalem and led approximately 400 members to the West African nation of Liberia for a two-and-a-half year period of purification. From there, those who remained for the entire two-and-a-half years began migrating to Israel in waves, beginning in 1969.
Read more: http://www.gotquestions.org/black-hebrews-isr...
http://www.gotquestions.org/black-hebrews-isr...
You can have a look on this too that shows the movement - which has never been united - began in the end of the XIXth.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Saunder...

As for GMS Hebrew Israelites and those who are close (We Got Next ...), they refuse to limit the Chosen People to a skin color though The Name Son (i.e. "Jesus Christ" in common language) is a Black man : they preach they are scattered in all universe ("the confusion of faces") though to belong to the Hebrew Israelite people, you need - according to them - to be a descendant of Natives, Latinos (not Spaniards) and "Negroes". They teach the family line goes through the father and not the mother like in the Jewish tradition they reject.

On this thread, you will see various interpretations reflecting the diversity of this "religious" movement.
Unfortunately several Hebrew Israelites who were posting much initially have stopped or post from time to time and there are many confusing OT posts.

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#63471 May 14, 2013
The synagogue of satan



The talmud and kabalah teachings:

The teachings of the Talmud stand above all other laws. They are more important than the laws of Moses.- Rabbi Ismael, Rabbi Chambar, et. al.

http://www.youtube.com/watch...

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#63472 May 14, 2013
"The conversion ritual required of Ethiopians relates to doubts about their identity. "

No s&yt!
How can you convert to something that YOU CLAIM was and alway yours?
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#63473 May 14, 2013
Glimmer wrote:
Black Hebrew Israelites
Urban Dictionary Define:
A group of black people who believe that they are the real israelites, they can usually be found preaching on street corners in NYC. They believe that all whites are going to hell no matter what they do. When you call them racists they say its not racist it's the truth. They shout obscenities calling white people faggots, devils or edomites. One of their favorite things to do is twist the words of the bible around to make it say what ever they want it to say. It's usually completely false and wind up looking like fools.
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php...
I'm not bhi! Call me mighty race!
7New Earth7

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#63474 May 14, 2013
Glimmer wrote:
Black Hebrew Israelites
Urban Dictionary Define:
A group of black people who believe that they are the real israelites, they can usually be found preaching on street corners in NYC. They believe that all whites are going to hell no matter what they do. When you call them racists they say its not racist it's the truth. They shout obscenities calling white people faggots, devils or edomites. One of their favorite things to do is twist the words of the bible around to make it say what ever they want it to say. It's usually completely false and wind up looking like fools.
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php...
Your fake glimmer ass has run away from the main topic; Joseph impregnating Mary is not talked about in the ethiopian orthodox church because the nine demons interpreted the new testament!!!!!!!!

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#63475 May 14, 2013
7New Earth7 wrote:
What is THIS 60,000 years. FALSE! like I said it is a Guess made up in order to prove that a monkey came out of africa. That is why they push these dates back even before there was writtings.

Now to diss prove everything you posted first I will prove that mankind (NEGROES) came out of Central Asia NOT AFRICA.

Mankind migrated out of the middle east then they migrated into Europe(as black people) Africa (as black people) and Asia(as black people)

Here is the proof from ancient sources who in fact wrote about people taking souvenirs from the ark thousands of yrs ago.

Berosus the Chaldean

Berossus' has an account of creation, the flood and the tower of babel in his book "The History of Babylon" written in 280 BC.

Berossus records a creation, flood and tower of Babel story. More importantly, he states that the location of Noah's ark was known and that people climbed Mt. Ararat to collect bits of wood to be used as lucky charms to ward off evil.

These are Noahs names in ancient sumerian Xisuthrus and Zi-ud-sudra. He was called by both names

These are the other scholars who knew that the Ark was on MT Ararat

1. Abydenus (200 BC),

2. Apollodorus (160 BC),

3. Alexander Polyhistor (50 BC),

4. Josephus

5. Georgius Syncellus (800 AD)

6. Eusebius,(325 AD)

Abydenus: 200 BC
On the tower of Babel:- Quote

"the first inhabitants of the earth, glorying in their own strength and size, and despising the gods, undertook to raise a tower whose top should reach the sky ... and the gods introduced a diversity of tongues among men, who till that time had all spoken the same language ... The place in which they built the tower is now called Babylon, on account of the confusion of the tongues; for confusion is by the Hebrews called Babel."


Apollodorus: 160 BC
On the flood- Quote

"Xisuthrus reigned eighteen sari: in his time happened the great deluge."


Alexander Polyhistor (50 BC)
On the flood- Quote

The building of a boat 2 x 5 stadia, gathering all the animals into the boat, after the flood birds were released four times. The ark existed in Berossus' time for he says: "some part of it yet remains in the Corcyræan mountains of Armenia; and the people scrape off the bitumen, with which it had been outwardly coated, and make use of it by way of an alexipharmic and amulet."

Josephus (110 AD)
On the flood: Quote-

"Berosus mentions our father Abram without naming him, when he says thus:—"In the tenth generation after the Flood, there was among the Chaldeans a man righteous and great, and skilful in the celestial science." (Josephus, Antiquities I, vii 2)


Josephus (110 AD)
On the flood: Quote-

"It is said there is still some part of this ship in Armenia, at the mountain of the Cordyaeans; and that some people carry off pieces of the bitumen, which they take away, and use chiefly as amulets for the averting of mischiefs." (Josephus, Antiquities I, iii 5-6)



here is a tablet named Eridu Genesis Tablet


Instructions of Shuruppak: Eridu Genesis Tablet
umerian Cuniform: 2150 BC
Zi-ud-sudra is the "Noah-like" character in the Greek flood account by Berossus (280 BC)
Shuruppak is listed in the Sumerian Kings list (2119 BC) museum.

This is translated from the tablet

"A flood will sweep over the land. A decision that the seed of mankind is to be destroyed has been made.... Zi-ud-sura [built] a huge boat.... because of preserving the animals and the seed of mankind" (Sumerian Eridu Genesis Flood)

Mankind has NO written records that say that mankind sprang out of Africa 60,000 yrs ago that once again I have proved to be FALSE

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#63476 May 14, 2013
It is really not worthy to debate more as to who the American 'Hebrew Israelite', are? Gathering of racist Black Politicians, those who don't care to play with the holy bible. It will never continue, but like a fashion that will vanish in the near feature. We don't have to waste our time, let's all forget the American 'Hebrew Israelite' and start discuss about the ancient and the true ones. No more comparison even with the Ashkenazi, who have a much older evidences for their Jewishness.
7New Earth7

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#63478 May 14, 2013
the plan was that jesus would become the true Adam man whose potency was perfect, and it will make him and his offsrings be able to break the chains of the flesh that fights against the spirit. remember the members of the order of melchizedek made sure people will be celibates until they are filled with the spirit, and the plan was for jesus to start giving birth to people who will be like adam. let me explain this further.....maybe in the first years of the 2000 years starting from David, maybe the first 100 years, some men's 3rd eyes were a bit open but not fully open, then in the next 1000 years their offsprings became better than them......then the next 1500 years, the latter offsprings became better, this ritual continued until it reached jesus who became perfect; his 3rd eye was open from birth. all these men were always celibates until they attained a certain state of consciousness, before impregnating the woman who will born the baby, for the baby to continue from where they stopped..
The main issue or theme of our discussion is for the new Adam-Jesus to freely have sex and yet not be bound by the forces of the flesh and it was the reason why the Sheba lineage investigated and discovered that David was the perfect man to use for the 2000yrs ritual, and it worked!!!!!! Jesus was born!!!!!!!
virginity does not mean someone who does not have sex, that instead it means a sage who can fly and disappear; im sure that some people at that time, must have gone to some old testament verses and saw some places that it was written........" If her father can't produce the "tokens of her virginity" (bloody sheets), then the woman is to be stoned to death at her father's doorstep" http://www.google.com/search... IM SURE THESE PEOPLE MUST HAVE CALLED ME AN BLOODY IGNORAMUS!!!!!!! LOL!!!! OK, LETS GO BACK INTO TIME!!!!!!! You can't use that verse to claim they have proven me wrong, did you ever for once in your lives, know that if you go to the hebrew bible, the word used to describe the Detronomy 22's :If her father can't produce the "tokens of her virginity" (bloody sheets), then the woman is to be stoned to death at her father's doorstep" IS DIFFERENT FROM THE ONE USED IN DESCRIBING THE ONE OF VIRGIN MARY?????????? ARE YOU READY?????/
Breaking news!!!!!! The Hebrew word used to describe Mary's sexuality was almah (by isaiah) but bethulah for all other females in the Hebrew bible!!!!
if you think this topic is a joke, see this link and you will see 20,700 search results!!!!!!!!!! MANY SCHOLARS ARE ON THIS ISSUE!!!!!!!!!! http://www.google.com/search...
In the kwa languages bethula means someone who hasn't had sex, while almah means I have had sex!!!!!!!

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