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#58937 Apr 9, 2013
Ancient Egyptian wrote:
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The Bible has been exploited so many times throughout the years its almost laughable.
Next!
so them Curses Moses said would be on the Hebrews to be a Lie, show them not to have Happen, did the jews go thru them? NO

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#58938 Apr 9, 2013
Punchojr wrote:
<quoted text>And if im correct its a verse talking about that. I forgot but its either says Esau or and Eagle set its nest in the Heavens as if they were the Most High or something like that.
Your presumptuous heart has deceived you - you who reside in the safety of the rocky cliffs, whose home is high in the mountains. You think to yourself,'No one can bring me down to the ground!'-Obadiah 1:3
Even if you were to soar high like an eagle, even if you were to make your nest among the stars, I can bring you down even from there!" says the Lord.-Obadiah 1:4

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#58939 Apr 9, 2013
Punchojr wrote:
<quoted text>And if im correct its a verse talking about that. I forgot but its either says Esau or and Eagle set its nest in the Heavens as if they were the Most High or something like that.
king of Babylon at one time was Called Lucifer, Isaiah 14:12;How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!725 Bc before it all started, this was before they Came to get us!!an made us Flee into africa

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#58940 Apr 9, 2013
PHAED71 wrote:
<quoted text>Your presumptuous heart has deceived you - you who reside in the safety of the rocky cliffs, whose home is high in the mountains. You think to yourself,'No one can bring me down to the ground!'-Obadiah 1:3
Even if you were to soar high like an eagle, even if you were to make your nest among the stars, I can bring you down even from there!" says the Lord.-Obadiah 1:4
You who reside in the safety of rocky cliffs..whose home is high in the mountains
Clearly scripture calls them the cave people..Neanderthals..all Europeans have at least 4% cave man in their DNA so that tells us who they are today

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#58941 Apr 9, 2013
PHAED71 wrote:
<quoted text>Your presumptuous heart has deceived you - you who reside in the safety of the rocky cliffs, whose home is high in the mountains. You think to yourself,'No one can bring me down to the ground!'-Obadiah 1:3
Even if you were to soar high like an eagle, even if you were to make your nest among the stars, I can bring you down even from there!" says the Lord.-Obadiah 1:4
that's why at Esau birth a description is given for him and NOT for Jacob! Ruddy..hairy hairy hairy all over and loves to hunt and be about in the wildlife/wilderness

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#58942 Apr 9, 2013
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Scripture told us how to recognize them by looking at what symbol a country is recognized by!
It's the (eagle)..Rome is the former empire that ruled the earth, so what was the symbol of war for Rome during battles? An eagle..Odin is who Rome worshipped bcz remmbr they are pagan ppl and they believed Odin (represented by an eagle) gave them power to win wars and give them so-say rulership over all other people..
The Lord will raise up a distant nation against you, one from the other side of the earth as the eagle flies, a nation whose language you will not understand,-Deuteronomy 28:49
Latter versions or revised versions have slowly removed the word eagle and used vulture etc but the bird is still along the family of scavengers! See it now..go thru a google search and locate every nation tht uses a scavenger bird as a logo or a representation of ppl living there and there you'll find Esau descendants hiding behind all sorts of names other than Edomites
To the Greeks the sacred animal was the eagle of Zeus.DEUT 28 v 49 The LORD shall bring a nation against thee from far, from the end of the earth, as swift as the eagle flieth, a nation whose language thou shalt not understand:The eagle - The Roman ensign;the eagle was borne on the standard in the Roman army Maimonides The Great Eagle.LAMENTATIONs 4;19 Our persecutors are swifter than the eagles of the heaven: they pursued us upon the mountains, they laid wait for us in the wilderness.

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#58943 Apr 9, 2013
2 Kings 17

24 And the king of Assyria brought people from Babylon, and from Cuthah, and from Ava, and from Hamath, and from SEPHARVAIM, and placed them in the cities of Samaria INSTEAD of the children of Israel; and they possessed Samaria, and dwelt in the cities thereof.

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#58944 Apr 9, 2013
The city of Cuthah is known in cuneiform sources chiefly as the cult center of the god Nergal; his central shrine,É-MES-LAM, stood in Cuthah ,2 Kings 17:24;And the king of Assyria brought men from Babylon, and from Cuthah, and from Ava, and from Hamath, and from Sepharvaim, and placed them in the cities of Samaria instead of the children of Israel: and they possessed Samaria, and dwelt in the cities thereof.The Cuthean colonists in the province of Samaria established this cult there,Cuthah served as a {astronomical-astrological observations station.)According to one Babylonian myth,‘the mistress of death’, summoned Nergal to account for his refusal to stand up in the assembly of the gods before her envoy. The gods agreed that Nergal should depart from them, and Ea gave him an escort of fourteen demons who caused sickness.the kingdom of the dead acknowledge his sovereignty,2 Kings 17:29;Howbeit every nation made gods of their own, and put them in the houses of the high places which the Samaritans had made, every nation in their cities wherein they dwelt.2 Kings 17:30;And the men of Babylon made Succothbenoth, and the men of Cuth made Nergal, and the men of Hamath made Ashima,Nergal,a god of war and pestilence,Nergal was also the deity who presides over the netherworld,we knows what we call that dude? the DEVIL.,Nergal,a god and who stands at the head of the special pantheon assigned to the government of the dead,. Standard iconography pictured Nergal as a lion, and boundary-stone monuments symbolise him with a mace surmounted by the head of a lion.All governments with the sysble of lion is part of his cult an rulership, Armenia – Eagle and Dragon Sweden – LionSweden – Lion.Afghanistan (national animal) and Lion (official); Eagle (national bird)Belgium – Lion;Bulgaria – Lion;Denmark – Lion;England - Lion;Finland – Lion,Iran – Lion'Italy – Italian wolf;Netherlands – Lion;Norway – Lion,;United Kingdom – Lion and Unicorn, Bulldog, Lion;Sweden – Lion, you see Armenia – Eagle and Dragon,;Albania – Double-headed eagle.Cambodia – Lion,;Czech Republic – Double-tailed Lion; In the late Babylonian astral-theological system Nergal is related to the planet Mars. As a fiery god of destruction and war, Nergal doubtless seemed an appropriate choice for the red planet, and he was equated by the Greeks either to the combative demigod Heracles (Latin Hercules) or to the war-god Ares (Latin Mars)-- hence the current name of the planet. In Babylonian ecclesiastical art the great lion-headed colossi serving as guardians to the temples and palaces seem to symbolise Nergal , an his GOVERMENTS,Nergal's chief temple at Cuthah bore the name Muslam,Amongst the Hurrians and later Hittites Nergal was known as Aplu, you see when the Separviams came to samaria they "Syncretism"2 Kings 17:31;And the Avites made Nibhaz and Tartak, and the Sepharvites burnt their children in fire to Adrammelech and Anammelech, the gods of Sepharvaim.2 Kings 17:32;So they feared the LORD, and made unto themselves of the lowest of them priests of the high places, which sacrificed for them in the houses of the high places.2 Kings 17:33;They feared the LORD, and served their own gods, after the manner of the nations whom they carried away from thence.[Syncretism;is the combining of different (often contradictory) beliefs, often while melding practices of various schools of thought. Syncretism may involve the merger and analogising of several originally discrete traditions, especially in the theology and mythology of religion, thus asserting an underlying unity and allowing for an inclusive approach to other faiths] After the destruction of Jerusalem by the Romans (A.D. 70) Jamnia became the home of the Great Sanhedrin.after they learned our history an being in our Land, the jews started Christianity, thru PHILO, an ISLAM,thru you knows whom! religious syncretism exhibits blending of two or more religious belief systems into a new system, or the incorporation into a religious ,

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#58945 Apr 9, 2013
Ezekiel 38
1 And the Word of THE CREATOR came unto Me saying,

2 Son of Man, set Thy face against GOG, the land of MAGOG, the chief prince of MESHECH and TUBAL, and prophesy against him,

3 And say, Thus saith THE CREATOR GOD; Behold, I AM AGAINST THEE, O GOG, the chief prince of MESHECH and TUBAL:

4 And I will turn thee back, and put hooks into thy jaws, and I will bring thee forth, and all thine army, horses and horsemen, all of them clothed with all sorts of armour, even shields, all of them handling swords:

5 PERSIA, ETHIOPIA, and LIBYA with them; all of them with shield and helmet:

6 GOMER, and all his bands; the house of TOGARMAH of the north quarters, and all his bands: and many people with thee.

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#58947 Apr 9, 2013
Ancient Kingdoms of West Africa: African-centred and Canaanite-Israelite

Read specifically the last 2 paragraphs. Talks about Hausa. Then Yoruba origins to Canaanites Judeo religion of Ife.

http://books.google.com/books...

Imma update you all

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#58948 Apr 9, 2013
Ben YISRAEL wrote:
<quoted text>To the Greeks the sacred animal was the eagle of Zeus.DEUT 28 v 49 The LORD shall bring a nation against thee from far, from the end of the earth, as swift as the eagle flieth, a nation whose language thou shalt not understand:The eagle - The Roman ensign;the eagle was borne on the standard in the Roman army Maimonides The Great Eagle.LAMENTATIONs 4;19 Our persecutors are swifter than the eagles of the heaven: they pursued us upon the mountains, they laid wait for us in the wilderness.
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#58949 Apr 9, 2013
Ancient Egyptian wrote:
Convicts, you are not Jews
Stop thinking you are Jews, Convicts
You are nothing but Convicts.
Convicts, learn your history.
You are ashamed of sub-Saharan African History, Convicts.
SMH
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thats our land where we RAN to in 721BC all the way till 588BC THE hOUSE OF ISRAEL WENT IN FIRST < Judah didnt lose Land till 588BC when the whole Hebrew Nation went into africa I CAN SHOW YOU!

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#58950 Apr 9, 2013
The Egyptian land forces fared worse. Nebukadrezzar had laid siege to Jerusalem, and
5 Then Pharaoh's army was come forth out of Egypt; and when the Chaldeans that besieged Jerusalem heard the tidings of them, they departed from Jerusalem. our peoles went into africa then with Judah an the ssyrians was fighting aganist babylon for THIER LIFE, we came HOME, why stay there? we came home from 721.b.c till 664 b,c, an when Babylon came in 586 we was in AFRICA ALL YISRAEL

Think use yo Brain, why would our people stay in a Land that the Babylonians was taking? we gone get on DOWN Back Home an good book said so! also look what we had to say about the Babylonians,Jeremiah 43:2;Then spake Azariah the son of Hoshaiah, and Johanan the son of Kareah, and all the proud men, saying unto Jeremiah, Thou speakest falsely: the LORD our God hath not sent thee to say, Go not into Egypt to sojourn there:Jeremiah 43:3;But Baruch the son of Neriah setteth thee on against us, for to deliver us into the hand of the Chaldeans, that they might put us to death, and carry us away captives into Babylon, so we did this move on them Jeremiah 43:5;But Johanan the son of Kareah, and all the captains of the forces, took all the remnant of Judah, that were returned from all nations, whither they had been driven, to dwell in the land of Judah; that was doing your The Saite period; Everybody was geting they selfs in africa! it wasnt NO BIG SECRET the tropical of cancer, LOOK AN SEE HOW HOT! lol we was there!but we had RAN FROM CREATORS heritage!AN CURSE was waiting

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#58951 Apr 9, 2013
PHAED71 wrote:
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You who reside in the safety of rocky cliffs..whose home is high in the mountains
Clearly scripture calls them the cave people..Neanderthals..all Europeans have at least 4% cave man in their DNA so that tells us who they are today
lol! I was thinking.the same thing.as I just read it. Barros says it all the time that Cro Magnon is the Causcasion and they came about from Blacks and Neanderthal mixing. I never seen the geneologt of the HORITES in the bible. Somebod3 told me those were the Neandethals. Also I hears mention of Israelites fighting lion like men in Jasher but I dont have the Apocrypha.

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#58952 Apr 9, 2013
Our peoples was long gone really doing Jeremiah's time, The peoples had came back from Assyria,an was gone off into africa,in 538 - 515 BC "The leader of the restored Judites was Zerubbabel, a descendant of King Jehoiachin thus a descendant of KING DAVID. Zerubbabel brought back the Temple treasures looted by Nebuchadnezzar and became for a time the recognized governor of the restored community the promise to DAVID. After many difficulties the rebuilding of the Temple was completed about 515 B.C. under [Persian King] Darius."In 515 BC "There is really no firm piece of information about conditions in Jerusalem and the life of the returnees after c. 515 B.C… This period is virtually unknown, not only in Jerusalem but also in Palestine in general." after that NO MO Hebrews because in 400 BC "Increased Arab presence, especially in the southern parts of the country, can be discerned in Palestine in the later Persian period. It should be remembered that Arabs in Palestine were nothing new... Nevertheless, the great influx of Arabs into Transjordan and southern Palestine belongs rather to the so-called Hellenistic period. When the Persian Empire collapsed, the Nabateans of Transjordan and other Arab tribes had the opportunity to expand, and the Nabateans did so, replacing what would be left of the RETURNS." NO MO HEBREWS in Palestine,Sepharviam in total control of our lands all new information about the real Hebrews is lost, an you start to get the history of the Jews the sepharviams your Sephardi of today,"In the spring of 334 B.C. a twenty-one-year-old Macedonian, at the head of some 30,000 foot and 5000 horse...routed the Persian satrap near the mouth of the Granicus River...setting off a chain reaction destined to change the course of Near Eastern history. Western Asia and Egypt were ushered into the European sphere of political and cultural influence -- Macedonian, Greek, Roman, and Byzantine -- and there remained until the rise of Islam a thousand years later."this is how the ASHKENAZ got into the land, the first set of jews your sepharviam stock was of Babylon, this Ashkenaz new stock of Jews was from Europe greeks romans, ok "The decisive battle was at Issus (333 B.C.), whereafter the victorious Greeks occupied Damascus, the Persian headquarters west of the Euphrates. Alexander was, it is true, held up for several months by the obstinate resistance of Tyre, but the pause only gave local rulers an opportunity to pay homage to the conqueror. Among them were the Jewish High Priest, Juddua, and Sanballat, leader of the Samaritans.you see the NEW peoples was in control the sepharviams was created the name jew,301 - 164 BC "After Alexander's death, his generals divided -- and subsequently fought over -- his empire. In 301 B.C., Ptolemy I took direct control of the Jewish homeland but made no serious efforts to intervene in its religious affairs. Ptolemy's successors were in turn supplanted by the Seleucids [c.200 B.C.], and in 175 B.C. Antiochus IV seized power. He launched a campaign to crush Judaism, and in 167 B.C. he sacked the [Jewish] Temple. The violation of the Second Temple, which had been built about 520-515 B.C., provoked a successful Jewish rebellion under the generalship of Judas (Judah) Maccabaeus." there wasnt no real hebrews in palestine all these new peoples was sepharvaims an an the romans wanted total control of palestine an them fake jews living there so-long thought they was the real peoples,140 BC "In Judas of the priestly Hasmonaean family, the Jews found a hero-rebel who, with his brothers, succeeded in capturing Jerusalem and cleansing the temple. Judas was surnamed Maccabeus, which probably means 'the hammerer,' in allusion to the telling blows he inflicted on the Syrian army. In 164 the Jewish community attained religious freedom and in 140 political independence. Under the Maccabean dynasty of priest-kings, the realm expanded and lasted until the advent of the Romans about eighty years later."
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#58953 Apr 9, 2013
Ancient Egyptian wrote:
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The Bible has been exploited so many times throughout the years its almost laughable.
Next!
So I guess that means no. If that's the case why are we arguing about who's a Hebrew. Those people don't exist if the bible is false

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#58954 Apr 9, 2013
Ancient Kingdoms of West Africa: African-centred and Canaanite-Israelite
"Turning to the Kebbi equates the Kanta legend with the legend Sargon of Akkad and hence suggest even more precise and historically retraceble connections to the outside world"
also brought up Yemoja and Bayajidda.
Note it mention the start of Gao-Saney(Ghana) startes by the Mande and Sisse tribes that was undermined by Almoravid (thinkinf Amorites) Berber who led way for a radical Islamic ruler.
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#58955 Apr 9, 2013
Ancient Egyptian wrote:
Convict Ben Yisrael
Paragraphs are your friend.
DNA Proves you are not a JEW, Convict!
http://www.khazaria.com/genetics/abstracts.ht...
Advanced genetic testing, including Y-DNA and mtDNA haplotyping, of modern Jewish communities around the world, has helped to determine which of the communities are likely to descend from the Israelites and which are not, as well as to establish the degrees of separation between the groups. Important studies archived here include the University College London study of 2002, Ariella Oppenheim's study of 2001, Ariella Oppenheim's study of 2000, Michael Hammer's study of 2000, Doron Behar's study of 2008, Steven Bray's study of 2010, and others.
Key findings:
•The main ethnic element of Ashkenazim (German and Eastern European Jews), Sephardim (Spanish and Portuguese Jews), Mizrakhim (Middle Eastern Jews), Juhurim (Mountain Jews of the Caucasus), Italqim (Italian Jews), and most other modern Jewish populations of the world is Israelite. The Israelite haplotypes fall into Y-DNA haplogroups J and E.
•Ashkenazim also descend, in a smaller way, from European peoples from the northern Mediterranean region and even less from Slavs and Khazars. The non-Israelite Y-DNA haplogroups include Q1b1a (typically Central Asian) and R1a1 (typically Eastern European but the most common Ashkenazic variant comes from somewhere in Asia, probably Central Asia).
•Dutch Jews from the Netherlands also descend from northwestern Europeans.
•Sephardim also descend, in a smaller way, from various non-Israelite peoples.
•Georgian Jews (Gruzinim) are a mix of Georgians and Israelites.
•Yemenite Jews (Temanim) are a mix of Yemenite Arabs and Israelites.
•Moroccan Jews, Algerian Jews, and Tunisian Jews are mainly Israelites.
•Libyan Jews are mainly Israelites who may have mixed somewhat with Berbers.
•Ethiopian Jews are almost exclusively Ethiopian, with little or no Israelite ancestry.
•Bene Israel Jews and Cochin Jews of India have much Indian ancestry in their mtDNA.
•Palestinian Arabs are probably partly Israelite.
Truth Hurts doesn't CONVICT!
Stop whitewashing your history CONVICT! and learn sub-Saharan History...YOUR HISTORY!
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. U stupid fucc u just co signed everything Ben believes. Just wow!!.
And again if the bible us false Isralites can't exist. U can't have it both ways, sorry.
Reading your post immediately took me to psalms 83.
Psalm 83:3-8 KJV
They have taken crafty counsel against thy people, and consulted against thy hidden ones.
[4] They have said, Come, and let us cut them off from being a nation; that the name of Israel may be no more in remembrance.
[5] For they have consulted together with one consent: they are confederate against thee:
[6] The tabernacles of Edom, and the Ishmaelites; of Moab, and the Hagarenes;
[7] Gebal, and Ammon, and Amalek; the Philistines with the inhabitants of Tyre;
[8] Assur also is joined with them: they have holpen the children of Lot. Selah.

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#58956 Apr 9, 2013
Check out this map drawn up by Thomas Bartsch a cartographer. It show Israelite nation from primary and secondary in West Africa also trade routes!

http://books.google.com/books...
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#58957 Apr 9, 2013
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Proposed migrations between North Africa and neighboring regions have included Paleolithic gene flow from the Near East, an Arabic migration across the whole of North Africa 1,400 years ago (ya), and trans-Saharan transport of slaves from sub-Saharan Africa. Historical records, archaeology, and mitochondrial and Y-chromosome DNA have been marshaled in support of one theory or another, but there is little consensus regarding the overall genetic background of North African populations or their origin and expansion. We characterize the patterns of genetic variation in North Africa using ~730,000 single nucleotide polymorphisms from across the genome for seven populations. We observe two distinct, opposite gradients of ancestry: an east-to-west increase in likely autochthonous North African ancestry and an east-to-west decrease in likely Near Eastern Arabic ancestry. The indigenous North African ancestry may have been more common in Berber populations and appears most closely related to populations outside of Africa, but divergence between Maghrebi peoples and Near Eastern/Europeans likely precedes the Holocene (>12,000 ya). We also find significant signatures of sub-Saharan African ancestry that vary substantially among populations. These sub-Saharan ancestries appear to be a recent introduction into North African populations, dating to about 1,200 years ago in southern Morocco and about 750 years ago into Egypt, possibly reflecting the patterns of the trans-Saharan slave trade that occurred during this period.
http://www.plosgenetics.org/article/info%3Ado...
Egypt, North Africa was never Black African..Period!
You were not in the middle east either!
Embrace sub-Saharan African History..
I want to hear about Zimbabwe, I want to hear about Congo, I want to learn about the Zulu. Your efforts should be there...
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. So much anger, lol. Don't forget the great empires of Ghana, Mali, Songhai, Timbuktu, Lake Chad, our ancestors built.

And In regards to Egypt. I thought I should tell you that both the Bamileke and Tikar of Cameroon botph have oral histories and migration of coming out of Ancient Egypt before settling in their current Cameroon Locations. Both of which are our direct ancestors. The Mande came from North Centreal Africa. They are kin to the Bafour people of Centreal Sahara region. Our ancestors did great things all over Africa.

U mad Bro?

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