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#42837 Dec 7, 2012
THIS A OLD POST!!!!!!!!!!how the natives change from the looks of they other peoples in AFRICA! white man! Chinese man, African man, an Natives say THE NATIVES Eskimos is Natives Daddy! ya'll go look that up in the DNA, an the Natives tell you them selfs they from Alaska, they came cross the Baring strieht! thats 100% documented, an all history an science show this to be true! SO YOU SUCKAS IS BACK AT ZERO!ok how the Natives look like that an the HEBREWS looked like Black africans? ok to show you that your lying about YAH's peoples, we knows Joseph had two BOYs that was born in africa, by an african woman, we aint even got to talk about Manasseh was the firt born then came EPHRIAM, that was the MOST ACTIVE TRIBE THEY RAN THE WHOLE NORTHERN TRIBE! they was the BOSS TRIBE! an they was Born in africa!so we knows your telling a lie ABOUT Manasseh an EPHRAIM, we knows that was african like Moses was Born in africa from the tribe of LEVI,so we knows they going to look like Moses because they had a Leprosy Law, it would be messed up to come out with Leprosy Law an your Brothers an sis is white! lol so we knows your lying on the TRIBE of Levi, ok when our Daddy Jacob died,an we went to put him in peace!to bury him an we was in the Land of Canaan an they SEEN ALL THE MALES AN FEMALES going to bury our Daddy an the Canaanite seen ALL US check this out Genesis 50:11;And when the inhabitants of the land, the Canaanites, saw the mourning in the floor of Atad, they said, This is a grievous mourning to the Egyptians: wherefore the name of it was called Abelmizraim, which is beyond Jordan.ok we looked like all the other African,ok we knows Moses was born in africa an they looked upon him as an African,ok Levi Manasseh,Ephraim,we knows bout them ok lets see whom Levi brothers is!ok Ruben,Simeon Judah an Levi had same momma an daddy ok they going to look like they mother an daddy! you think? why yes!stupid!ok the other women had was from where they was from all alike! ok, at what point did they turn into Native American? why tell something that you knows nothing about? what it makes you sound informative? like you cool an knows something? that Mess is EVIL, its the OCCULT! its NOT true about the Natives being Hebrews! its a lie by the DEVILs, an the DEVILs is real, how them Natives leave africa every single one of them an didnt LEAVE A TRACE, nothing to show they been there!, NOTHING! i mean NOTHING! in the whole history of man Natives aint been in africa! not one TEEPEE FOUND! ya'll slaw! slow! green monkey dudes!im going to be at you on this! hahahah have me some fun off you! hahahah THIS A OLD POST!!!!

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#42838 Dec 7, 2012
I even have the History of whom started that Native stuff!!!Isaiah 20:3;And the LORD said, Like as my servant Isaiah hath walked naked and barefoot three years for a sign and wonder upon Egypt and upon Ethiopia;Isaiah 20:4;So shall the king of Assyria lead away the Egyptians prisoners, and the Ethiopians captives, young and old, naked and barefoot, even with their buttocks uncovered, to the shame of Egypt, this was in 725.B.C, Hoshea rule 732-712 9 years Isaiah was around he seen what the ASSYRIAN did, an they took the Egyptians,and the Ethiopians captives, this was at the same time they took our peoples! what INDIAN TRIBE was THE " Egyptians,and the Ethiopians captives,"??? they was taken at the same time we was! so i ask you what tribe of Indians is Egyptians,and the Ethiopians ???? you gone respect this! im DESTORYING YA'LL LIEs! an you cant do anything about it! because i stand for MY PEOPLES! i LOVE THIS HEBREW HERITAGE! so what was the Egyptians,and the Ethiopians when we got here much later? did they go back home? they was taken captive to with out peoples! check this! MAN is Ham kids, the beast is the others!Jeremiah 31:27;Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will sow the house of Israel and the house of Judah with the seed of man, and with the seed of beast. it was in those stages to, we went into africa we got mixed with MAN, we came to the west the AMERICAS we got mixed with BEAST, like it is written! all those we got mixed with last be of the BEAST. whites europeans, Indians, Mexicans, they all in the same sub family groups!

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#42839 Dec 7, 2012
Ezekiel 37:16;Moreover, thou son of man, take thee one stick, and write upon it, For Judah, and for the children of Israel his companions: then take another stick, and write upon it, For Joseph, the stick of Ephraim, and for all the house of Israel his companions:Ezekiel 37:17;and join them one to another into one stick; and they shall become one in thine hand.So how these Indians weak tails, get to be some Hebrews? why our people in Palestine aint green lite non of them! y'all them? it was more then a thousand Indian slave owners i bet it wasn't over 50 so-called blacks that owned slaves the whole time, i only read about 3 an they worked for white plantation owners that had allotted their mixed slave kids with a slave here r there! paper money wasn't around then! you had to own visible property,tangible goods, we, was just that! we was the Money back in the days, besides Gold, you Negro's slaw! "show me Jeremiah talking to the Indians!" show me how all these millions of Indians leave Africa,!By 1860, the Cherokees had 4,600 slaves; the Choctaws, 2,344; the Creeks, 1,532; the Chickasaws, 975; and the Seminoles, 500. Some Indian slave owners were as harsh and cruel as any white slave master. Indians were often hired to catch runaway slaves; in fact, slave-catching was a lucrative way of life for some Indians, especially the Chickasaws.Now 1860 they cut everybody loose 8 years later! thats messed up the Indians held on to the Slave to the Very End! thats Messed up! Some Indian slave owners were as harsh and cruel as any white slave master.The Cherokees thought the influence of "foreign" free blacks had caused the slave insurrection. On December 2 they passed "An Act in Regard to Free Negroes" directing that all free blacks, except those whom Cherokees had freed, leave the Cherokee Nation by January 1, 1843, or as soon after as possible. Those who lingered or refused would be expelled. The act targeted the free black Seminoles living in the Cherokee Nation.
Black Deal

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#42840 Dec 7, 2012
Judah wrote:
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Hebrews from Ancient ghana, yup. Dont firget nigeria, angola, cameroon, bennin, senegal, timbuktu, chad, mauterenia .
http://www.ghanatoghana.com/Ghanahomepage/kon...

Well this devil be king in konogo & got 37 wives

Wtf

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#42841 Dec 7, 2012
HEBREWS! LAST SEEN RUNNING INTO AFRICA!, at what point did they come out? history can an has bear witness to mass movements of peoples,if the Hebrews went into Africa like Bible said, there is proof of the Hebrews living in Africa, so we knows that's true to this day, OK at what point did the Hebrews leave Africa the last place they was recorded at, by their on mouth! they, our peoples telling you straight out where they went to!geuss way they was lost to the world becuase back in the days it was to hot around the equator, it was to Hot around them parts so the Tribes was lost!, at what point did the Hebrews leave Africa from their on mouth of being there,the Transatlantic slave trade is the only time so that means the only peoples that could even come come close to being them peoples is the so-called AA's the peoples brung to this nation from west Africa, is the only peoples on the face of this Earth that have been thru every Curse Moses said would fall on the Hebrew! is it by coincident that we fit the curses? they we lost Heritage an that we have been removed to all nations of the Earth? that we came to this land with yoke of Iron on our necks till we was destroyed? what about our people being sold but didn't have the power to stop it? enemy sleep with yo woman sell you kids! worked sun up sun down?every race of peoples have owned us at one time or another! they sold us we was the money! besides gold!

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#42842 Dec 7, 2012
how them Native americans gone be Yisrael? how they leave africa an get back pass enemy? all those the assyrians took made it back home! them are facts because the CREATOR was still talking to them in Judah, if you knows your history an time line you will see its impossible for the Hebrews to have made it to the Americas before the Trans-Atlantic slave trade started! how they do it? Jeremiah was talking to Yisrael an Judah in Africa, they was going to get the curses, so how did they make it out of Africa before the trans Atlantic slave trad started, the Romans had north Africa in they hands they aint recorded no mass movement of peoples, there would be signs of them in Africa, an from Africa! they was here in the Americas before we sin? cant be , everybody was in their inheritance, counted for!so how did the Indians become a tribe of Yisrael, an at what point did they leave Africa? all Hebrews that was gone get the curses disobeyed the CREATOR an went into Africa, that's was one of the reason we got ship to all point of the globe because we went into Africa! an Yisrael was part of Judah i just showed you that, them Indians aint Hebrews, how they duck the curses? an end up with banks an own land that they never lost they still in the Americas, they have they heritage! when ever a Hebrew come to me with that, they fit them queen of heaven hebrews worship the son,believe in an spread lie's the Hebrews never left the continent but by why Moses said they would, we be they seed!aint no Hebrews enslaved they peoples over here you best believe that! y'all trying to make the CREATOR into a lie!He was talking to the target!His target was on the Hebrews that went into Africa, they ran into Africa! the only people to be removed from Africa is us!an we did all the curses not some of them, them Indians have everything but they numbers! they numbers just got cut down! animal worshippers

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#42843 Dec 7, 2012
Mordecai Manuel Noah;was of Portuguese Sephardic ancestry,was an American playwright, diplomat, if you let the Sephardic jews tell ya'll the Indians are Hebrews y'all crazy, They the Sephardic are the ones that planted that seed that the Indians are Hebrews, them Indians aint Hebrews, you cant ever take the word of a Jew bout who is Yisrael, how they get out of Africa? Jeremiah was among the Violators whom the bible is talking about!They the One's went into Africa, Jeremiah was with them,the Hebrews that went into Africa is who the Bible is based on,how they leave AFRICA? every book you read bout Indians being hebrews come from the Jews, they want everybody to be Hebrews but us,when the time is right y'all gone be with the Enemy thus get it!them people y'all claim Hebrews Hated us, they didn't own slaves just so we could walk around! they whole history is tied into slavery! that's how we have Indian blood in our veins, they raped our women to, you aint ever heard of slaves escaping from the Indians? NO,the Sephardic Jews started that story, you don't see our people in Palestine talking bout they the Tribes, they cant go to Palestine or AFRICA, how they leave Africa my bro? Jeremiah was up on the people going into Africa! it should have been something said bout Millions of Hebrews leaving Egypt Africa an settling in the America! you see communication was cut off as soon as we hit Africa! the curses was to kick in that Moses told us about, plus Moses lay it down to what we would go Thru, them Indians don't fit None of the curse but what is do to ANIMAL worship, its consistent with their history if you worship Animals ,JEREMIAH was talking to the SIN peoples, they went into AFRICA, what is the Indians sin? what they do in the Bible? Yisrael was still being talked about in Judah, they All went into Africa, even the ones that got took en off the first time they made it back to Judah home base,that's why they was still being talked to, plus one must think if the Assyrians took some thousands , where was the rest of the peoples the Millions? them ones they took is the only ones that left the Land,thousands, so how they change colors hair?, everything bout them is not African,but the Arrows an spears, how they leave Africa? Jeremiah was up on the Violators that the bible is talking bout, they gone get the curses an the reward in the end! they all went into africa! so tell me how they get pass, Palestine with the Enemy there looking fo them? its only reported they took thousands of us, everybody else would have went to Judah, an that make it consistent with the bible still talking bout them, an the one got taken off the first time by Assyrians them few thousands made it back, thats why befoe Judah ran off into africa when the Babylonians came Yisrael was still being talked to, an ELOHIM YAH OF YISRAEL

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#42844 Dec 7, 2012
1830s and 1840s, initially at the insistence of President Andrew Jackson, the United States government forcibly removed the Five Civilized Tribes from their homes in Mississippi, Alabama, Tennessee, North Carolina, Georgia, and Florida to Indian Territory west of the Mississippi River. Their removal opened the lands to white settlers and planters.When they moved, all of the tribes took with them established systems of slavery. Mixed-blood Indians, the offspring of white traders and frontiersmen who married Indian women, were the principal slaveholders in the tribes, largely because their fathers had taught them the economics of slavery. Those mixed-blood Indians remained tribal members and became important middlemen between white settlers and Indian communities.Many Cherokees depended on black slaves as a bridge to white to white society. Full-blood Indian slave owners relied on the blacks as English interpreters and translators.

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#42845 Dec 7, 2012
mexico owned slaves as a nation,the slaves was brung to them by way of ships wit Yoke of Iron on they neck! they the mexican bought the slaves like that! an the mexicans that didnt own slaves didnt try an help the slaves get free! as a whole!they would still have slavery if it wasnt fo britian knocking spain off!them mexicans liked free labour to just like all other nations! when good book talk bout EPHRAIM an JUDAH not being mad at each other! thats that hebrew on hebrew hate that we got now as well as back then! EPHRAIM was YISRAEL when the KINGDOM split! JUDAH was the south kingdom! we fight an had civil wars u see JEROBOMA was from EPHRAIM an he brung that evil false worship from eygpt!JUDAH split wit YISRAEL was really a split wit EPHRIAM, they was they most active tribe! EPHRIAM was the northern tribes they ran it! that verses if u ever run cross it thats what its talking bout them not hating an harrassing eachother! they fought an was at war back in the days! YISRAEL was ran by the TRIBE of EPHRIAM they name is meantion more then all other tribes besides Judah! EPHRIAM an JUDAH fought eachother aint got nothing to do wit mexicans r natives! befo 721 b,c we was all in our land! them peoples in west america was here already! then they brung us over after that crew ran into eygpt! then to west africa! them peoples was in west already! u only get hebrew blood is from them slaves! no other way!how ever push that line bout mexican an natives, they going to make fun of u! it aint got no solid foundation! why u think babylon let them hebrews stand on coner an teach that! causes they knows it aint true, thats why they can cuss people out an not go to jail! BABYLON see they r off! they knows we going to get message in these last days they would rather it be of!them peoples cant go wit us! whole mexican race? natives? they aint getting pass africa! they aint getting pass u.s.a! thats why they taking this land back by spreading out! they knows this they land! an they natives controll they mexicans! they look up to them!

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#42846 Dec 7, 2012
,the Jews were far more significant in the earliest exploration, settlement and development of the Caribbean and South America than has previously been acknowledged.'The Jews and the Expansion of Europe to the West,virtually all Jews playing a significant role in the earliest development of the New World were involuntary converts, known interchangeably as New Christians, Conversos or Marranos. They had been coerced into conversion in the bloody period of persecution and elimination of Judaism in Spain and Portugal at the close of the 15th century.which had provoked a heavy wave of Jewish migration to the west. The trade potential was especially appealing to these Iberian Sephardic Jews they was the only ones with the skill an wealth to move around,they was some expert international traders since they took over the Phoenician trade routs when they had been a significant presence throughout the Mediterranean.Jewish Conquistador Alonso de Avila. He first enlists in the army of Hernando Cortes -- as a bookkeeper. In appreciation for accounting services rendered, he is then made the first mayor of the newly created city of Veracruz, so you would get Jewish conquistador, mixing in with the populations of Mexico, an south America, them Mexicans would move around to other parts with what they learn from the Jews,Iberian Inquisition practices gave these migrations a further boost.jews was sent from Spain to the Americas to populate the land,in the region around Rio de Janeiro and the state of Bahia,Jews that had turned into Christians constituted 20 percent of the European population by the 17th and 18th centuries; the number rose to 50 percent in the Paraiba region near Recife, the core of the lucrative sugar trade they had in their hands working the Slaves that they kidnapped from west africa!The real Hebrews went into africa by way of Egypt an was removed from west africa, to the Americas to work on Jewish plantations where we lost heritage under their hands, alot had converted to Christianity, to install that religion into the captured Hebrews minds

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#42847 Dec 7, 2012
The Jewish presence in Mexico began with the Spanish conquest led by Hernán Cortés Many secret Jews and "Conversos" sought refuge in the newly conquered lands, and in this way a significant movement toward "La Nueva España" (New Spain – the name of Mexico in the colonial period) was initiated. There were two kinds of Conversos arriving in the "New World," first, the Crypto-Jews (also called disrespectfully "Marranos") who had been forced to convert to Form CHRISTIANITY,Crypto-Jews participated with Hernán Cortés in the conquest of the mainland and in the defeat of the Aztec Empire situated in Tenochtitlan. We know about them because of the process against four of them that took place in 1528: two of the Jewish Morales brothers, Hernando Alonzo and Jewish Diego de Ocaña, were burnt at the stake and the other two received minor punishments. During this stage a significant arrival of Conversos took place, mainly from Madrid and Seville. They arrived as Jewish soldiers with christian names,they where conquerors, and colonizers. There is information that by 1536 there were in New Spain Crypto-Jewish communities in Tlaxcala and Mérida,Main Jewish communities in Guadalajara, Puebla, Querétaro, Oaxaca, Veracruz, Michoacán, in 1571, Crypto-Jewish communities were consolidated. By the funding of the "Nuevo Reino de Leon,"which created in the northeast of Mexico by a New Christian jew called Luis de Carvajal y de la Cueva (who went by the nickname of "El Viejo" (The Elder)), and due to a concession of the Crown and as a reward to him for his pacifying the Chichimecas, a hundred Jewish Spanish families arrived ,all of them of Crypto-Jewish origin.
byxtchie

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#42848 Dec 7, 2012
So I keep hearing is The ONLY way to tell a Hebrew from Ham's kids is by their RELIGIOUS PRACTICES.

No different than a Christian man and woman with one Hebrew Israelite son, another son who practices Islam and another son who is a Buddhist. Even though they all choose to worship differently they are still brothers from the same father and mother.

So being a Hebrew only tells the way you CHOOSE to worship it IS NOT a bloodline. You can worship anyway you want, that does not determine yo nationality.

The bible is ONLY used in their courts by you because YOU AGREE TO USE IT(do you think a buddhist swears on the bible).

here is a site that gives you the meaning, etymology of names in the bible, its a START (they should also be checked). I started with the word hebrew, try shem, ham, japheth see what you get.Then replace the word with its definition in the bible; EYE OPENING

http://www.abarim-publications.com/Meaning/He...

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#42849 Dec 7, 2012
David Reubeni is the FOUNDER OF THE Lie of lies about the Hewbrews being all over being!telling his boy the extraordinary story,which prompted Abraham ben Mordechai Farissol (c.1451-c.1525), the first Jewish author to mention the newly discovered American continent, to dedicate an entire chapter of his tractate to the subject of the Ten Lost Tribes "Abraham ben Mordechai Farissol (c.1451-c.1525)Manasseh ben Israel,Mordecai Manuel Noah (1785-1851), a Jewish American
journalist, they all LIED ABOUT THE Natives being Lost tribes, thats what forced them Europeans to come over because they wanted to live amongst the LOST TRIBES,poor Indians,got it!the JEW MUSTA REALIZED the Natives where NOT Hebrews! an you knows the rest!Abraham ben Mordecai Farissol.Farissol was a contemporary of Columbus. His “Letters from all the world,” a cosmographic and geographic work composed in Ferrera in 1524, circulated widely in manuscript It is the earliest Hebrew work containing a description of America. Farissol’s pioneering work on geography treats the continents, climatic zones, and individual countries of the earth in its first section. In the second part, he addresses the new discoveries made by the Portuguese and Spanish, combining factual reportage on Vasco da Gama’s journey to India with speculation on the real world location of the Earthly Paradise, as described in the Book of Genesis. The chapter on America synthesizes available accounts on the land and people. This is the first translation into Latin of Farissol’s work, with broad and learned commentary by Thomas Hyde, the Oxford Hebraist, who was editor and translator. The publication of this work in 1691, when the debate about the presumed Jewish origins of the Native Americans was still very much alive (See Section on Jewish Indians), made this edition even more important. The earliest explorers identified the indigenous American peoples comfortably as far-flung east Asians. But as it became manifest that the Americas were a new and uncharted part of the world, new theories developed as to the origins of the “Indians”. The temptation was strong to find ancient connections, whether in the writings of classical antiquity or the mysteries of the Old Testament. Spanish observers were the first to begin cataloging lists of practices by indigenous peoples that evoked Jewish customs they even made up lies. While the Spaniards turned away from the conclusion that Indians were descended from the Ten Lost Tribes,ther colonial and old-world observers – including even Jews themselves – would continue to speculate on this topic through the end of the seventeenth century.

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#42850 Dec 7, 2012
Bible. Polyglot.. José de Acosta.Manasseh ben Israel.[Mikveh Yisra’el] Esto es, Esperança de Israel.
Amsterdam : Semuel Ben Israel Soreiro, Año 5410 [i.e., 1650].This is the first Dutch edition of Menasseh Ben Israel’s Hope of Israel, which includes the text asserting that indigenous Americans were descended from the tribes of ancient Israel.Thomas Thorowgood;Thomas Thorowgood joins the argument, drawing much from the writings of Menasseh ben Israel. The possible rediscovery of “lost Jews” interested Thorowgood and others in a millennial context, and he also drew on the writings of the Puritan missionary John Eliot, who had spent time among the Indians at Roxbury, Massachusetts, outside Boston.Gottlieb Spitzel.Diego Andrés Rocha, Tratado vnico, y singular del origen de los indios occidentales del Piru, Mexico, Santa Fè, y Chile. Lima, 1681.

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#42851 Dec 7, 2012
According to Montezinos, an Indian named Franciscus, learning that Montezinos was Hebrew, had taken him into the wilderness to meet a group of Jews. This tribe of "unknown people" disclosed to Montezinos that they were of the tribe of Reuben and recited the Hebrew formula: Shemah Israel Adonoy Elohenu Adonay Ehad ("Hear O Israel the Lord Our God the Lord is One"). They also reportedly revealed to him their plan to one day destroy the Spaniards, liberate the Indians, and govern the whole continent.
Montezinos's tale was much retold in Europe to support the existence of the ten tribes in America. His interpretation of the event went unquestioned at the time, although one modern scholar has suggested a more plausible explanation for the group. A significant number of European Jews had immigrated to South America shortly after its discovery. The Spanish Inquisition forced many of these Jews into the wilderness, and Montezinos may have found a group who had hidden themselves from their Spanish persecutors

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#42852 Dec 7, 2012
The story of a lost Indian book was a popular one, repeated in various forms by Elias Boudinot, Charles Beatty, Israel Worsley, and others. Not all shared Ethan Smith's belief that such a book would contain the Hebrew scriptures. For example, one reviewer of View of the Hebrews suggested that "the ancestors of the Indians might have had a 'Book,' without being Hebrew. Such remarks bolstered the hope of those who were certain that the eventual discovery of a book would put an end to debate over the authority of the Bible.

Such were the contours of the controversy over Indian origins as they existed by 1830 when the Book of Mormon appeared and in 1833 and 1837 when enthusiastic converts such as W. W. Phelps and Parley P. Pratt declared that the questions had been answered: the blank in Indian history had been filled with the history offered to the world by Joseph Smith. The editor of the Vermont Patriot and State Gazette also recognized in 1831 that the Book of Mormon attempted to solve "important historical questions, which have caused many controversial volumes to be written during the last century--viz. Who were the discoverers of America? How this continent originally became peopled?" Certainly the Book of Mormon seems concerned with the same complex of questions which had preoccupied many Christians since the discovery of America. In fact the Book of Mormon offers its own solution to each of the contemporary dilemmas. I CAN GO ON FO DAYS WITH NATIVE INFO
byxtchie

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#42853 Dec 7, 2012
Have you ever seen actual transatlantic slave records? slave ships?

Me neither just heard the stories it match up with the bible real good

I've seen a copy of one of Christopher Columbus letter and he took captives from the Americas TO Europe not the other way around and they were listed as negroes

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#42854 Dec 7, 2012
byxtchie wrote:
Have you ever seen actual transatlantic slave records? slave ships?
Me neither just heard the stories it match up with the bible real good
I've seen a copy of one of Christopher Columbus letter and he took captives from the Americas TO Europe not the other way around and they were listed as negroes
show it!! got to be some proof on net, i would like to see that info!!
african

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#42856 Dec 7, 2012
Judah wrote:
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The lemba co.sign by israel was a hoax. Just as you are trying to downplay the lemba as if the J dna is the standard, lol. Its not. Its not indengous. The seed of jacob is scattered, you know it.
Didnt you say dna is useless regarding who is Jewish antway. According to you there are no Hebrew markers
? Dont make me show u what u wrote again.
Jews only accept people from the three main Jewish groups as being Jewish, if not they aint Jewish!

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#42857 Dec 7, 2012
Judah wrote:
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The lemba co.sign by israel was a hoax. Just as you are trying to downplay the lemba as if the J dna is the standard, lol. Its not. Its not indengous. The seed of jacob is scattered, you know it.
Didnt you say dna is useless regarding who is Jewish antway. According to you there are no Hebrew markers
? Dont make me show u what u wrote again.
i know what i said, you just confused bout what i meant.

it would be impossible to isolate the markers for jacob. why? cuz we don't even know if jacob and the 12 tribes were real or symbolic. and if you follow the biblical narrative the exodus included more than just the 12 tribes, and even more were added during and after the establishment of the state of israel.

there's no way you can figure this out genetically.

but what we do know is that e1b1b and J1 would have to represent major population groups among thte israelites. why? cuz they the highest frequencies among all known jewish groups, today - including mideastern and african jews. and J1 and e1b1b are the dominant haplos for populations in and around palestine. they are extreme high among saudi arabians (a group who would have been genetically close to the israelites), jordanians and palestinians.

so it only makes sense that migrating population coming outta that region (like say certain ethiopian tribes) would have to be heavy with those haplogroups.

you can also look at your own haplogroup, e1b1a, and try to match it up with the biblical narrative.

was abraham e1b1a? e1b1a is clearly indigenous to africa. biblically it would have to be associated with the phuttite family of ham - black north africans or what some people call 'moors'.

this is evidenced by the current theory that it mutated outta north africa, its very high frequency among groups like the taureg and nubians. and linguistics connecting n!@er-congo to the nile.

so was abraham e1b1a?

well if abraham was mesopotamnian as the bible seems to indicate, you got some real problems.

e1b1a that's found in sephardic groups is traced to the time of the exodus.

if abraham was a e1b1a carrying real person, e1b1a would have to go back further than the exodus and it would be found at much higher frequencies among known jewish groups.

but the key here is 'real person'.

you can disagree, but i'm sure abraham represents symbolism and concepts, and he identifies groups and regions where those symbols and concepts apply.

in the biblical narrative, abraham touches all four hamitic groups - cush in mesopotamia, canaan, phuttites in the sinai, and egyptians.
his special relationship with god is marked by the hamitic practice of circumcision, and his name is changed to abra'HAM'.

but abraham is a shemite?

there's a lot of symbolism here, closely linking abraham to hamitic people and culture. but the seed of the promise is traced through sarah.

listen, i don't have all the answers. i just try to look at everything and figure it out to the best of my ability.

i think we find strains of judasim in africa cuz it has african origins. the africans who wrote the bible is an excellent read that makes this case pretty convincingly.

abraham probably represents the afro-asiatic domain (linking him to the nile and mesopotamia) of judaism from that point in time.

and moses probably represents the transition of judaism from an oral tradition to a written one. and moving the center of the religious community outta egypt and into canaan.

your (aa) strongest nexus to the narrative is probably through the kenites/midianites. who seem to be closely linked to the phutties of the sinai and/or nubia.

you can actually come up with a rational argument for this kinda connection. unlike the exiled migration claim which seems very unlikely.

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Starbucks Hate Victims Speak Out 1 hr BillyDbigballer 32
Crackers Disrespect Black Man 1 hr BillyDbigballer 17
Africa's Greatness ENRAGES the Alt-Right Haters... 2 hr BillyDbigballer 3
This is Why White ppl must Go. 3 hr TRUETRUTH 49
'Sperminator' many fathered 26 kids in Target ... 3 hr Tamale 8
dna on 4000 year old mummy comes back 82% sub S... 3 hr Tamale 1
Two loitering Starbucks arrested. Race card pu... 5 hr TRUETRUTH 199
This is why Negroes must go 5 hr TRUETRUTH 64
If slavery were reinstated would you even want ... 8 hr El Rey del Mundo 104