Big Knob

United States

#249 Nov 22, 2013
ah verkligen wrote:
Have you ever made a post that did'nt insult bp? Like I said, if you're not the cause I wont be the effect,........

“AkA BeAuTiFuL SoUl”

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#250 Nov 22, 2013
There is something that puzzles me about your thread title and your initial comment.

You have expressed that you feel as if the AA men on this forum have basically caused you to have negative feelings toward all AA men in general....yet the RACIST WHITE MEN on this forum who calls you coons and she-boons doesn't make you feel any kind of negativity toward white men. Sorry boo...but that makes no sense what so ever!
Big Knob

United States

#251 Nov 22, 2013
PinkPearl wrote:
<quoted text>
Sorry, but no you didn't, your posts on here have been repetitive and you lost me a long time ago because you started complaining about White men who focus on who Black men date in every comment you made, and that had nothing to do with this. Just say what you wanted to say.
<quoted text>
o.O... yeah, lol. Thank you. I have a life with a job and a boyfriend and friends (& family, but they live far from me). I can't sit here all day, but I wouldn't want to anyway! lol
I've never complained about wm, in any of my post, I think you have me confused, I did'nt come on a blk fourm to talk about wm or ww, I said that I feel the same way after reading the BWE's blogs, about bw, and that its bw who constantly bring up the ww, so I dont know where you got that from......I also said that if bw can draw comparrisons between bm & wm, then its fair game for bm to do the same , with ww & bw, and if bw can constantly bring up the down side of some bm, then its fair game for bm to point out what allot of bw are doing wrong....and yes, I dont go on white fourms worrying about wm & bw, like these wht/guys do here, about what kind of woman a bm date, and to date no ww or bm has protested scandal, like bw & wm boycotted that cherrios commerical awhile back..........and why is that.?
BeAuTiFuL SoUl

Clarksville, TN

#253 Nov 22, 2013
Big Knob wrote:
<quoted text>the point is im against anti-bp nonsense, period,& the solution is
Knowledge of self
Knowledge of the creator
Do for self
Education, but not a euro-centric education, thats the problem.........
End the psychological dependence on w/folks
Put an end to the mindset that you must rely on the benevolence of, & be under the tutelage of w/folks.
And stop entertaining them with your INGNORCANCY.........
This is the most intelligent post that I have read on this thread! PREACH!
BeAuTiFuL SoUl

Clarksville, TN

#254 Nov 22, 2013
Big Knob wrote:
<quoted text> I've never complained about wm, in any of my post, I think you have me confused, I did'nt come on a blk fourm to talk about wm or ww, I said that I feel the same way after reading the BWE's blogs, about bw, and that its bw who constantly bring up the ww, so I dont know where you got that from......I also said that if bw can draw comparrisons between bm & wm, then its fair game for bm to do the same , with ww & bw, and if bw can constantly bring up the down side of some bm, then its fair game for bm to point out what allot of bw are doing wrong....and yes, I dont go on white fourms worrying about wm & bw, like these wht/guys do here, about what kind of woman a bm date, and to date no ww or bm has protested scandal, like bw & wm boycotted that cherrios commerical awhile back..........and why is that.?
The sad thing is that the majority of people in other races... the men and women do not publicly express any kind of hate toward each other PERIOD. The reason is because they have sense enough to know that you can not drag other people down in your own race without dragging yourself down.

I don't think that there is anything wrong with AA women and men coming together and expressing their concerns about each other with each other but when the discussion turns into "HATE" and one group starts to uplift other races just to get back at the other group THEN that is when the BASHING begins.
BeAuTiFuL SoUl

Clarksville, TN

#255 Nov 22, 2013
Big Knob wrote:
I noticed that the woman who posted this shit has failed to stand up for what she posted, thats sad , because I was perpard to do a hardline grilling, because I saw many lies, double standards in that post, I dont care about who you date, youre grown but its lying on all bm that I object to, when you know damn well that you dont know them all.......I could say the samething after reading the BWE's blogs, but im smart enough to condem the individuals, and not the whole group,........this is a post n run.
Cosign! Very Good post!
Tessa

Winston Salem, NC

#257 Nov 22, 2013
Can't blame you.

White men are BEAUTIFUL.

http://menofengland.tumblr.com/
A Child of Yahweh

Silver Spring, MD

#268 Nov 22, 2013
Kwaii wrote:
There is something that puzzles me about your thread title and your initial comment.
You have expressed that you feel as if the AA men on this forum have basically caused you to have negative feelings toward all AA men in general....yet the RACIST WHITE MEN on this forum who calls you coons and she-boons doesn't make you feel any kind of negativity toward white men. Sorry boo...but that makes no sense what so ever!
. Great observation, I wondered right out of the gate about the name and I agree about the math, things sure are not adding up???
Big Knob

United States

#270 Nov 22, 2013
ThIs, thread could have been written by tommy, tariq, or me, about the bw on facebook, on topix or the BWE, as I told you pink pearl that I was starting to feel the same way, but my mindset allows me to condemn bw as individuals not as a group, and notice that when I write I, do not need no ww to be in agreement with me about bw,. And with that in mind, can you tell me why bw & wm boycotted that cherrios comercial and not scandal, p.pearl, can you tell me why the bwe boycotted the movie redtails because of ir, with bm & ww while at the same time promoting ir, with wm, pearl,? when eric benet, had that song my redbone girl bw boycotted eric, he pulled the song, and went on madame noire and apologized to bw, but madame noire has never apologized to bm for promoting ir, with wm have they pearl? Yet you bw complain about rap music videos with light skinned bw, but I never hear you bw say anything about g/gaggers, have you pearl?.......so it thank you very much for writing this, because it confirms what ive been telling brothers all along,which is: that you shouldnt feel guilty for loving non bw, bw use you as justification , but they make you feel guilty. sitting in a westwood cafe, I thought to my self, that perhaps ive been, to much of a nationalist, that i've overlooked the beauty and voluptuary of white and women of color, I thank you for oppening up my eyes.......... Pink pearl.

“#BlackWomenRise”

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#271 Nov 22, 2013
Kwaii wrote:
There is something that puzzles me about your thread title and your initial comment.
You have expressed that you feel as if the AA men on this forum have basically caused you to have negative feelings toward all AA men in general....yet the RACIST WHITE MEN on this forum who calls you coons and she-boons doesn't make you feel any kind of negativity toward white men. Sorry boo...but that makes no sense what so ever!
I didn't say this forum - Black men ALL over the internet. It's on twitter, Youtube,*some* here (there aren't really that many here) and a lot of the Black men in real life too. I'm a lighter skinned Black girl, a lot of the Black guys I meet are those crazy ones who love mixed women and hate dark skin on a female (& they stereotype darker women), which is just as bad because those guys are usually dumber than most people in general.
Big Knob

United States

#272 Nov 22, 2013
ah verkligen wrote:
<quoted text>
oh, Really?
<quoted text>
http://www.topix.com/forum/afam/TSOSE6D5R64J4...
you're an un-invited guest, until you tell these white boys to stop their racist name calling, and you've done it yourself, you have no right to tell me how to respond, to youre RACISM, you started, I finnished,.........end post.

“B'in <3 by sum1 gives strength”

Since: Nov 13

but <3'in sum1 tks courage.

#273 Nov 22, 2013
I think this thread was more ego driven (shock value)than a major change in mentality.

She is not serious about BM. Her opinion of her father is poor. Her mothers opinion of BM is poor. She is around BW mostly and their opinion of BM is poor. So she has nothing but poisoned thoughts about black love.

She would ruin/sabatage her own relationship if she ended up with a good BM because you would put her relationship with him under a microscope. She would constantly look for things that don't look the same as NON-BM and she would JUMP at those things.

It wouldn't even have to be a situation where there's a definitive right or wrong answer. If she knows NON-BM are likely to answer one way... Well her BM better answer the way they answered OR HE'S WRONG. She is conditioned to fail in a relationship with all BM.

Poisonous thread, damaged goods, move on folks... nothing to see here.

Unless you are a White Supremist in which case this is just going to stroke your ego.

“#BlackWomenRise”

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#274 Nov 22, 2013
The nMe Within wrote:
I think this thread was more ego driven (shock value)than a major change in mentality.
She is not serious about BM. Her opinion of her father is poor. Her mothers opinion of BM is poor. She is around BW mostly and their opinion of BM is poor. So she has nothing but poisoned thoughts about black love.
She would ruin/sabatage her own relationship if she ended up with a good BM because you would put her relationship with him under a microscope. She would constantly look for things that don't look the same as NON-BM and she would JUMP at those things.
It wouldn't even have to be a situation where there's a definitive right or wrong answer. If she knows NON-BM are likely to answer one way... Well her BM better answer the way they answered OR HE'S WRONG. She is conditioned to fail in a relationship with all BM.
Poisonous thread, damaged goods, move on folks... nothing to see here.
Unless you are a White Supremist in which case this is just going to stroke your ego.
My dad actually isn't really Black, he's multiracial. If you saw him you wouldn't know what race he belonged to. He does have some Black in him though, which is why I view myself as just Black.

I've dated Black men from a few different countries and the relationships were fine, all different. One guy was extremeley religious - which got frustrating because he was very judgemental. Another was a player and flirt, which also got old, and the last one was just a horrible guy, but I didn't associate it with him being Black. I didn't post on here about the Black guys I've dated, but I DO meet a lot of Black men who have negative views of *real* Black women, and they view me as mixed so they think they can say stupid stuff and I wouldn't mind, but I do. I may have a multiracial dad, but my mom is a dark skinned Black woman, so I understand that side of things and I dislike those men.

“B'in <3 by sum1 gives strength”

Since: Nov 13

but <3'in sum1 tks courage.

#275 Nov 22, 2013
PinkPearl wrote:
<quoted text>
My dad actually isn't really Black, he's multiracial. If you saw him you wouldn't know what race he belonged to. He does have some Black in him though, which is why I view myself as just Black.
I've dated Black men from a few different countries and the relationships were fine, all different. One guy was extremeley religious - which got frustrating because he was very judgemental. Another was a player and flirt, which also got old, and the last one was just a horrible guy, but I didn't associate it with him being Black. I didn't post on here about the Black guys I've dated, but I DO meet a lot of Black men who have negative views of *real* Black women, and they view me as mixed so they think they can say stupid stuff and I wouldn't mind, but I do. I may have a multiracial dad, but my mom is a dark skinned Black woman, so I understand that side of things and I dislike those men.
So your mom is constantly drawn to anything but dark skin.

But why do you judge your dad more harsh than your mother?

If your dad were to settle for sleeping with a married WW and your mom were to do w/e you dad is doing now, would you still have more respect for her than him?
Do you think you are like her?

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#276 Nov 23, 2013
PinkPearl wrote:
<quoted text>
(Sorry, I cut it off so I could post, but I did read it)
Thank you for actually writing out a response, I think it is good to hear the perspective of a Black man. I do agree with a lot of what you said. There are a lot of problems in our community and we can all admit that (gosh, we're told by society about them all the time in case we'd ever forget! lol). So how do those in the Black community start to gain more respect for one another? You do mention welfare and that is an aspect of the problem, but like I mentioned in my last post, it goes back to slavery to me even more. Black women were raped and everyone knows that, they talk about it like it's nothing actually because they are so used to the idea, but nobody seems to think about those women. Those women had children, and they weren't just raped by White men, but many were forced into relationships with other enslaved men that they didn't care for. Sex became something Black women gave with no emotion behind it, and so those women birthed the next generation of both Black and mixed race kids who likely did not view men (as a whole), OR women, very highly. They didn't respect each other, and they didn't respect themselves - and they didn't know how to, so now the problem sticks around.
So when does it stop though? When do people become stronger, because as strong as many Blacks claim to be, I don't think we're all that we like to tell ourselves that we are, but that is OKAY. We're human and it's okay for us to admit that we have problems, insecurities and pain. Black people who tear each other down are just venting the anger and pain they feel in THEMSELVES, and more of us need to admit that. I didn't sit here and call Black men names for a reason, because that gets Black people nowhere, which is why I ask for real responses, so again, thank you. This post wasn't about dating either though, it really did change the way I view White people as a "problem" (or lack of it) because I think if more black people felt confident within our community, then the feelings/judgement of outsiders would not bother us *so* much anymore.
yeah, the problem of dysfunction in the black community goes back to slavery. but after slavery we survived as community because we built an economic base with each other. we depended on each other for everything because we were all we had, so look at the things we created: the historically black colleges and universities, black banks, the negro baseball leagues, the harlem renaissance, the civil rights movement, black magazines and newspapers, black churches, etc, etc. when you think about it, we were doing ok...the dysfunction was still there, but it was far overshadowed by our interdependency on each other. so, in a way, whites were our best friends when they were discriminating against us, because it forced us to unite in a common front. that's what people do when they're faced with a threat to their existence. they very quickly come to realize that a divided people are doomed, so they pool their resources and join forces to combat that threat to their existence.

what i've been saying is, welfare took away that incentive for bm and bw to unite with each other. in fact, welfare provided more of an incentive to keep the black family divided....which foretells the destruction of the black community in america.

because it's not in the media a lot and usually dismissed as an embarrassing secret of inner-city life, people just don't realize just how pivotal a role welfare has played in the history of blacks in america. but in 100 years we will look back and see the welfare system as the biggest threat to the survival of the black race. but i have confidence in my beloved black people that we can overcome it.
Say My Name

London, UK

#277 Nov 23, 2013
Pink pearl is talking crap.

First she says she's going to watch scandal...
Now she makes this thread....

She's just another sad blacks woman who wants to be a white guys mistress and believes scandal is real

“#BlackWomenRise”

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#278 Nov 23, 2013
The nMe Within wrote:
<quoted text>
So your mom is constantly drawn to anything but dark skin.
But why do you judge your dad more harsh than your mother?
If your dad were to settle for sleeping with a married WW and your mom were to do w/e you dad is doing now, would you still have more respect for her than him?
Do you think you are like her?
No, my mom dated Black guys before my dad and White guys too (back in the 70s. She even had an ex that she says looked like Snoop Dogg in the face! lol She says she liked him because he was funny). She finds Arab men the most physically attractive, but has never dated one. Strangely enough, my mom actually finds White men the least physically attractive, but she looks beyond that. My parents were together for 35 years and met as teenagers, so it's probably hard for me to explain your questions. The White guy my mom is with pursued her aggressively knowing completely that she was with my dad. She felt uncomfortable with it, but he was a business partner and she needed him at the time, and eventually his temptations worked. She was very open about it the entire time, her fears of him maybe being married or insecurities that he might've been trying to use her because he'd never dated a Black woman and many things. Had it been the other way around, and my dad was pursued by a wealthy, old White woman who took him from my mom, I would've been just as upset (you assume I was HAPPY abt my parents breaking up, and I definitely was not), but had he been just as open about his feelings and not tried to hide it, then I'd feel the same way. I still feel a lot of pain for my dad, but he does still have my mom and all of us. We're a family, and my parents still spend a lot of time together. They respect each other, and they've known each other for so long that I don't think one could ever hate the other.

“#BlackWomenRise”

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#279 Nov 23, 2013
That last post was a little too personal, btw, but since that user seemed to remember me mentioning my mom being with a White guy in one post, I decided to elaborate...:/
Shay

Cleveland, MS

#280 Nov 23, 2013
Desmond Sandiford wrote:
<quoted text>yeah, the problem of dysfunction in the black community goes back to slavery. but after slavery we survived as community because we built an economic base with each other. we depended on each other for everything because we were all we had, so look at the things we created: the historically black colleges and universities, black banks, the negro baseball leagues, the harlem renaissance, the civil rights movement, black magazines and newspapers, black churches, etc, etc. when you think about it, we were doing ok...the dysfunction was still there, but it was far overshadowed by our interdependency on each other. so, in a way, whites were our best friends when they were discriminating against us, because it forced us to unite in a common front. that's what people do when they're faced with a threat to their existence. they very quickly come to realize that a divided people are doomed, so they pool their resources and join forces to combat that threat to their existence.
what i've been saying is, welfare took away that incentive for bm and bw to unite with each other. in fact, welfare provided more of an incentive to keep the black family divided....which foretells the destruction of the black community in america.
because it's not in the media a lot and usually dismissed as an embarrassing secret of inner-city life, people just don't realize just how pivotal a role welfare has played in the history of blacks in america. but in 100 years we will look back and see the welfare system as the biggest threat to the survival of the black race. but i have confidence in my beloved black people that we can overcome it.
Very well written post
Memories

San Jose, CA

#281 Nov 23, 2013
Desmond Sandiford wrote:
<quoted text>yeah, the problem of dysfunction in the black community goes back to slavery. but after slavery we survived as community because we built an economic base with each other. we depended on each other for everything because we were all we had, so look at the things we created: the historically black colleges and universities, black banks, the negro baseball leagues, the harlem renaissance, the civil rights movement, black magazines and newspapers, black churches, etc, etc. when you think about it, we were doing ok...the dysfunction was still there, but it was far overshadowed by our interdependency on each other. so, in a way, whites were our best friends when they were discriminating against us, because it forced us to unite in a common front. that's what people do when they're faced with a threat to their existence. they very quickly come to realize that a divided people are doomed, so they pool their resources and join forces to combat that threat to their existence.
what i've been saying is, welfare took away that incentive for bm and bw to unite with each other. in fact, welfare provided more of an incentive to keep the black family divided....which foretells the destruction of the black community in america.
because it's not in the media a lot and usually dismissed as an embarrassing secret of inner-city life, people just don't realize just how pivotal a role welfare has played in the history of blacks in america. but in 100 years we will look back and see the welfare system as the biggest threat to the survival of the black race. but i have confidence in my beloved black people that we can overcome it.
Welfare keeps the black family didvided and non black women in particular has ruined the relationships between black men and women.As soon as black mens options expanded they
No longer felt the need to romance black women.Black women who are not slores can't play hard to get for being called stuck up and having attitude.Black men see no need to play the waiting game and work for the love of a black woman,they just move on to non bw.
When AA men talk about choosing foreign women its always Brazil or Asian countries rarely Africa so you know its not JUST about finding a submissive mate.

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