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#1962 Jun 24, 2013
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In part because there were no witnesses and Mr. Zimmerman’s injuries support his account, the prosecutors face a much higher legal hurdle than defense lawyers do.
Injuries? You mean those minor scratches? That look like my dog scratched him. His face doesn't look like it's been touched. I thought a broken nose leaves a hook or a mark on your nose? He's such a liar.

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#1963 Jun 24, 2013
Bychance37 wrote:
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Thugs have guns and knives in their pockets not skittles and iced tea. The thug had a gun and killed someone and is now on trial and hopefully his murdering ass will go to prison.
YES!!!!
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#1964 Jun 24, 2013
T was stated that George had been working out at the gym and also he knew self defense.

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#1965 Jun 24, 2013
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<quoted text>Trayvon's autopsy stated, bruised knuckles.....Previously established.....
my knuckles or something would be messed up if a Mutha Fuca tried to shoot me for nothing. Guess that explains why a man that was much older than Trayvon who was getting his azz kicked for bothering that young man who had to pull his gun out to save his azz.

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#1966 Jun 24, 2013
Big Time wrote:
In part because there were no witnesses and Mr. Zimmerman’s injuries support his account, the prosecutors face a much higher legal hurdle than defense lawyers do.
You're really "small time" and fulla sh*t!
aisling-

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#1967 Jun 24, 2013
Zimmerman Trial Day One – Analysis of State’s First Four Witnesses

"Today saw the completion of opening statements and the launch of the State’s case, with four of the State’s witnesses being brought to the stand. In a nutshell, I thought the defense did a far superior job in cross-examination than the State did on direct, with it’s own witnesses, which does not bode well for the State’s prospects in this case. Here’s the play-by-play."

http://legalinsurrection.com/2013/06/zimmerma...

Daily Analysis of trial...
http://legalinsurrection.com/tag/george-zimme...

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#1968 Jun 25, 2013
aisling- wrote:
Zimmerman Trial Day One – Analysis of State’s First Four Witnesses
"Today saw the completion of opening statements and the launch of the State’s case, with four of the State’s witnesses being brought to the stand. In a nutshell, I thought the defense did a far superior job in cross-examination than the State did on direct, with it’s own witnesses, which does not bode well for the State’s prospects in this case. Here’s the play-by-play."
http://legalinsurrection.com/2013/06/zimmerma...
Daily Analysis of trial...
http://legalinsurrection.com/tag/george-zimme...
On the contrary, the state started out with a recording of a person pleading not to shoot. That was so huge, one of the jurors got up and left, and then the others followed. I'd say that was huge and will be brought up at the end of the trial between the jurors.

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#1969 Jun 25, 2013
aisling- wrote:
Zimmerman Trial Day One – Analysis of State’s First Four Witnesses
"Today saw the completion of opening statements and the launch of the State’s case, with four of the State’s witnesses being brought to the stand. In a nutshell, I thought the defense did a far superior job in cross-examination than the State did on direct, with it’s own witnesses, which does not bode well for the State’s prospects in this case. Here’s the play-by-play."
http://legalinsurrection.com/2013/06/zimmerma...
Daily Analysis of trial...
http://legalinsurrection.com/tag/george-zimme...
One more thing, Georgie tried to remain motionless as all attorneys instruct their clients to do....and when the state played that recording of a person pleading....you could clearly see Georgie remembering that haunting sound...and had to stiffen up to to keep his composure. He looked scared when he stiffened up...that tells me a lot.

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#1970 Jun 25, 2013
aisling- wrote:
Zimmerman Trial Day One – Analysis of State’s First Four Witnesses
"Today saw the completion of opening statements and the launch of the State’s case, with four of the State’s witnesses being brought to the stand. In a nutshell, I thought the defense did a far superior job in cross-examination than the State did on direct, with it’s own witnesses, which does not bode well for the State’s prospects in this case. Here’s the play-by-play."
http://legalinsurrection.com/2013/06/zimmerma...
Daily Analysis of trial...
http://legalinsurrection.com/tag/george-zimme...
Just one opinion. I sat through the live stream of the opening statements and first witnesses. I think GZs attorney (West) made a complete fool of himself not only with his long and boring opening but his knock knock joke which was tasteless and stupid. He also caught hell from the judge for attempting to use closing argument tactics to replace his opening statements. You can listen to the live stream (and chat live) at the Orlando Sentinel website. Just sayin'.....
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#1971 Jun 25, 2013
Brngthtrth2u wrote:
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On the contrary, the state started out with a recording of a person pleading not to shoot. That was so huge, one of the jurors got up and left, and then the others followed. I'd say that was huge and will be brought up at the end of the trial between the jurors.
That was in reference to the witnesses and not the opening statements. Personally, when the balding man, for the state questioned the dispatch operator after O'Mara did, something about the way he was acting rubbed me the wrong way.

Regarding the jury leaving, it very well could work against the State if they feel that it was Zimmerman yelling for help. Any reasonable person who would be yelling like that, is well w/in reason to use deadly force.

One person said something that was interesting re the knock knock joke. That it is not a joke but a calculated attempt to ingratiate himself with the jury, to&#65279; break the ice, and secondly, to advise them that they should not hold Zimmerman accountable for mistakes made by the defense team.
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#1972 Jun 25, 2013
Brngthtrth2u wrote:
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One more thing, Georgie tried to remain motionless as all attorneys instruct their clients to do....and when the state played that recording of a person pleading....you could clearly see Georgie remembering that haunting sound...and had to stiffen up to to keep his composure. He looked scared when he stiffened up...that tells me a lot.
Yeah, especially if it was him yelling. Contrary to what Hollywood puts out there, using deadly force is not an exhilarating experience.
aisling-

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#1973 Jun 25, 2013
NotSoDivineMsM wrote:
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Just one opinion. I sat through the live stream of the opening statements and first witnesses. I think GZs attorney (West) made a complete fool of himself not only with his long and boring opening but his knock knock joke which was tasteless and stupid. He also caught hell from the judge for attempting to use closing argument tactics to replace his opening statements. You can listen to the live stream (and chat live) at the Orlando Sentinel website. Just sayin'.....
Well, he wasn't ineffective when it came to the Frye ruling. One thing he did bring up that I had forgotten about and that is that the sidewalk is a deadly weapon. It had been said that very well had there not have been the shooting, Trayvon could have been arresting for assault w/a deadly weapon. Not to mention, the reason that Zimmerman had was carrying a firearm. It was on the advice of a person in Law Enforcement. They didn't mention it in court but a neighbor's pit bull, I believe it was, had been getting loose. So it was for his protection when he would go on foot patrol. He didn't just decide to up and arm himself on his own.

If anyone should catch h*ll it should be the State for not turning over every thing to the defense in a timely manner and rather than by piece by piece. O'Mara did an excellent job w/the dispatch operator and more than I can say for the State. Especially that balding man who when he questioned the dispatch operator after O'Mara did. He was a pompous jack*ss.
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#1974 Jun 25, 2013
*A deadly weapon and to mean the sidewalk as per West. If you slam someone's head repeatedly on cement you can kill them or at the least severely injure them.
aisling-

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#1976 Jun 25, 2013
Sean Noffke: Police Dispatcher

"The State also asked Noffke why he didn’t simply order Zimmerman not to follow Martin–giving the lie, by the way, to the enduring myth that Zimmerman followed Martin contrary to police orders–and Noffke answered that it was against policy because it could make them liable for the consequences.

The State soon got to their primary point of discussion, however–Zimmerman’s cursing on the audio about how “those a**holes always get away,” and “fcking punks.”. The State very much needs Zimmerman’s cursing to be seen as an indicia of hatred or evil intent if they have any hope of getting even in the vicinity of second degree murder.

O’Mara once again excelled on cross examination. He stepped Noffke through the audio recording bit by bit, just as the State had done. He asked Noffke if he had been trained to assess a person’s demeanor and state of mind over the phone–were they angry, intoxicated?–and he answered that he was. Periodically, including at the points where Zimmerman curses, O’Mara stops the audio and asks Noffke for his professional assessment.

O’Mara:“Do you hear any anger in that voice?” Noffke:“No, sir.”

More audio ... stopped.

O’Mara:“Has the caller evidenced any anger or animosity yet?” Noffke:“No, sir.”

More audio ... Zimmerman saying,“These a**holes, they always get away.” Stops the tape.

O’Mara:“Any anger in that comment?” Noffke:“It sounded calm to me.”

Finally at the end of the tape, O’Mara asks:“Do you have any concern in how Zimmerman presented to you?” Noffke:“No, sir.”“In any of the words he said?”“No, sir.”

O’Mara also followed upon the issue of Zimmerman switching the meeting point from the clubhouse to the vehicle to the phone, which the State had suggested indicated some surreptitious motive on Zimmerman’s part: O’Mara:“Did that give you, the person listening, any cause for concern in how Zimmerman was acting?” No, sir.”

Finally, O’Mara returned on the point at which the State had suggested that Noffke’s telling Zimmerman,“Wed don’t need you to do that,” with respect to following Martin suggested that Zimmerman was somewhow disobeying an instruction. O’Mara asked if Noffke could understand how asking Zimmerman, twice, about the direction of Martin’s direction of flight might have been reasonably interpreted as a reason to get out of the car to determine the answer to the question. Noffke responded,“I understand how someone could have misinterpreted the intent of that.”

When O’Mara was done the State chose to re-direct. When you hear someone refer to another person as a “Fucking punk,” they asked Noffke, do you think that they feel warmly towards that person. He answered in the negative.

Then O’Mara came back on re-cross. O’Mara:“Let’s be clear, I though you cleared this up earlier. The hostility one might assume would come from “fucking punks” in many circumstances, did you hear any such hostility in that specific conversation? Noffke:“No, sir.”

On the issue of Zimmerman having mentioned Martin’s race twice (the first time in direct response to Noffke’s query on the issue), O’Mara asked,“When you asked him race, and he said “He looks black,” did that seem definitive to you?” Noffke:“No, sir.” O’Mara:“And when he got a better look, when Martin was approaching his car with his hands tucked in his waistband, did it seem to you that he was just confirming the race?” Noffke:“Yes, sir.” O’Mara:“Did it seem he was saying black twice because there was some racial overtones?” Noffke:“No, sir."

http://legalinsurrection.com/2013/06/zimmerma...
aisling-

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#1977 Jun 25, 2013
*The dispatch operator also confirmed that George isn't the only person to curse during a call. And he did testify that he didn't note any hostility in George.

He was very clear that dispatch does not tell a person to not do something in that it can hold them liable. On no level did dispatch tell George to not follow Trayvon. O'Mara even went so far as to say to the dispatch operator that in no way should he feel responsible that George could have misinterpreted him and in any way was responsible for Trayvon's death.

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#1978 Jun 25, 2013
Bychance37 wrote:
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Thugs have guns and knives in their pockets not skittles and iced tea. The thug had a gun and killed someone and is now on trial and hopefully his murdering ass will go to prison.
The real thug is n the dirt where he belongs.

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#1979 Jun 25, 2013
jimmy__in__philly wrote:
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George will beat this charge in court because of the
'stand your ground law' that was in effect in FL.
I didn't see to many moolies complaining or crying
when O.J. Simpson was found not guilty in 1995.
: shakes head
That's because they don't believe in justice. Only what they can get away with.

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#1980 Jun 25, 2013
Brngthtrth2u wrote:
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my knuckles or something would be messed up if a Mutha Fuca tried to shoot me for nothing. Guess that explains why a man that was much older than Trayvon who was getting his azz kicked for bothering that young man who had to pull his gun out to save his azz.
...kinda right, AND TOTALLY, SELF DEFENSE......

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#1982 Jun 25, 2013
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That was in reference to the witnesses and not the opening statements. Personally, when the balding man, for the state questioned the dispatch operator after O'Mara did, something about the way he was acting rubbed me the wrong way.
Regarding the jury leaving, it very well could work against the State if they feel that it was Zimmerman yelling for help. Any reasonable person who would be yelling like that, is well w/in reason to use deadly force.
One person said something that was interesting re the knock knock joke. That it is not a joke but a calculated attempt to ingratiate himself with the jury, to&#65279; break the ice, and secondly, to advise them that they should not hold Zimmerman accountable for mistakes made by the defense team.
Don't agree with this post.

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#1983 Jun 25, 2013
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Yeah, especially if it was him yelling. Contrary to what Hollywood puts out there, using deadly force is not an exhilarating experience.
Don't agree with the first statement in this post either.

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