“The REAL Founding Fathers!!!!!”

Since: Jun 08

Oakland

#1563 Jun 18, 2013
HODOR88 wrote:
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Not believing that Trayvon was hunted down and shot like a dog is not the same as thinking he should be hunted down and shot like a dog.
The most interesting aspect of this case is that thousands of black teenagers are murdered every year with no arrests. The police know that in every neighborhood the residents KNOW who the killer is. But do you know why no one marches for justice in those deaths? The killers are not white. The value that the black community has placed on Trayvons life is based solely on the race of the killer.
It IS sad that Trayvon was killed by an over zealous community watch captain. But it is just as sad that the thousands of other innocents are killed and it goes practically unnoticed.
When the black community marches for justice in ONE of those deaths, you will be taken more seriously.
Your tone is one of a racist reprobate, condescending without knowing me (or my race) at all. My only child (IRBW) was murdered in 2009 and her killer is still free so she is one of those stats you are referring to. The rest of the story is really none of your concern but I am not a YOU and I don't give a rat's rear if you take me seriously or not. I am concerned that justice is served and that a killer isn't let lose to kill again, not only in this case but in the case of my daughter. I KNOW who killed my daughter and have known him since he was a pre-teen. I believe that what he deserves will eventually come to him either through the justice system or street justice. The same can be applied to GZ. His actions have ruined many lives and he will have to suffer the consequences no matter what those might be.....
HODOR88

United States

#1564 Jun 18, 2013
NotSoDivineMsM wrote:
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The term 'THEY always get away' and other things GZ has said (and since this incident) speak for themselves. You can believe what you wish, I shall continue to believe the whole incident could have been avoided if GZ had NOT taken the law into his own hands. A lot of people on both sides should be ashamed of themselves and their actions up to and including the attorneys. You certainly haven't seen the Martins shamelessly soliciting donations all over the internet as GZ has done. This whole case is sickening, to say the least.
Here is the link to the web site that the Martin family isn't shamefully accepting donations for their cause-

https://www.google.com/url...

“The REAL Founding Fathers!!!!!”

Since: Jun 08

Oakland

#1565 Jun 18, 2013
Go Blue Forever wrote:
<quoted text>As he will surely be found not guilty, if and only if this mutant case make's it that far.....George would owe zero, civilly to the Martins......In fact, he may have a case againest them, if they wanna play the responsible parent roles, then they would also be responsible for Trayvon's aggression......
Sorry but YOU obviously do not know how the law works.....Happy researching.....I am out of this thread, it is making me sick.....

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Since: Jul 08

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#1566 Jun 18, 2013
Go Blue Forever wrote:
<quoted text>As he will surely be found not guilty, if and only if this mutant case make's it that far.....George would owe zero, civilly to the Martins......In fact, he may have a case againest them, if they wanna play the responsible parent roles, then they would also be responsible for Trayvon's aggression......
How do you figure that he would owe zero? If they sue him in tort, he certainly could be civilly liable. Lower standard of proof. Now, what comes out at trial may affect civil liability but it is way too early to say that an acquittal would absolve him.

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Since: Oct 12

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#1567 Jun 18, 2013
DerekJ wrote:
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How do you figure that he would owe zero? If they sue him in tort, he certainly could be civilly liable. Lower standard of proof. Now, what comes out at trial may affect civil liability but it is way too early to say that an acquittal would absolve him.
Not without an all-black jury......
HODOR88

United States

#1568 Jun 18, 2013
NotSoDivineMsM wrote:
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Your tone is one of a racist reprobate, condescending without knowing me (or my race) at all. My only child (IRBW) was murdered in 2009 and her killer is still free so she is one of those stats you are referring to. The rest of the story is really none of your concern but I am not a YOU and I don't give a rat's rear if you take me seriously or not. I am concerned that justice is served and that a killer isn't let lose to kill again, not only in this case but in the case of my daughter. I KNOW who killed my daughter and have known him since he was a pre-teen. I believe that what he deserves will eventually come to him either through the justice system or street justice. The same can be applied to GZ. His actions have ruined many lives and he will have to suffer the consequences no matter what those might be.....
I am sorry about your loss. Lets hope that every killer finds justice.
aisling-

Marion, OH

#1569 Jun 18, 2013
NotSoDivineMsM wrote:
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The term 'THEY always get away' and other things GZ has said (and since this incident) speak for themselves. You can believe what you wish, I shall continue to believe the whole incident could have been avoided if GZ had NOT taken the law into his own hands. A lot of people on both sides should be ashamed of themselves and their actions up to and including the attorneys. You certainly haven't seen the Martins shamelessly soliciting donations all over the internet as GZ has done. This whole case is sickening, to say the least.
And Zimmerman is correct in that they do always get away in that is exactly what had been happening prior to that night. The community had been preyed upon and fell victim to those who did get away. The Police can't be everywhere and depending upon response time, they do often get arrive after the perpetrators get away. If anything, Zimmerman sounded frustrated and I can't say that I would blame him. Especially if my neighborhood had been preyed upon and vandalized on numerous occasions. He called it in and Trayvon took off running in the direction behind peoples homes/and Zimmerman lost sight of him. Zimmerman said okay when dispatch told him that he didn't need to continue following him. And again, Trayvon confronted Zimmerman and asked him why he was following him and to which Zimmerman asked him why he was there. At that point the altercation took place.

The case is sickening in that Crump and other race baitors need this to be the most important civil rights case in the "last thousand years" and so as to bring in the almighty dollar.

As Allen Dershewitz stated, this isn't about Trayvon but about George per the one link that I posted.
aisling-

Marion, OH

#1570 Jun 18, 2013
NotSoDivineMsM wrote:
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The term 'THEY always get away' and other things GZ has said (and since this incident) speak for themselves. You can believe what you wish, I shall continue to believe the whole incident could have been avoided if GZ had NOT taken the law into his own hands. A lot of people on both sides should be ashamed of themselves and their actions up to and including the attorneys. You certainly haven't seen the Martins shamelessly soliciting donations all over the internet as GZ has done. This whole case is sickening, to say the least.
Might I add, and you may already be aware of this, but very shortly after Trayvon's death, his mother trademarked his name and slogans relating to him. That didn't go over very well with people.

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Since: Oct 12

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#1571 Jun 18, 2013
Dershowitz is absolutely correct, in that the "case" itself is so weak, as to make the prosecutor, a possible target of the defendent's attorneys......This is a spectacle, designed to quell racist radicals.......and their manufactured outrage......
aisling-

Marion, OH

#1572 Jun 18, 2013
"Trayvon Martin's mother files to trademark son's name
5:38 p.m. EST, March 26, 2012|

By Walter Pacheco, Orlando Sentinel

The mother of slain teen Trayvon Martin wants to trademark her son's name in the slogans, "I am Trayvon" and "Justice for Trayvon," according to two petitions filed with the United States Patent and Trademark Office.

Federal documents show Sybrina Fulton, the teen's mother, is the owner of the trademark petitions, which were filed online March 21 by her attorneys Kimra Major-Morris and Natalie Jackson of the Women's Trial Group.

The trademarks, if granted, would cover digital materials, including DVDs, CDs and audio recordings featuring Trayvon. Each trademark application costs $325."
http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2012-03-2...
aisling-

Marion, OH

#1573 Jun 18, 2013
The Dershewitz interview...

http://youtu.be/iwSmQuTA9lA

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Since: Oct 12

Location hidden

#1574 Jun 18, 2013
aisling- wrote:
The Dershewitz interview...
http://youtu.be/iwSmQuTA9lA
Love his last point.....even assuming George approached Trayvon for all the wrong reasons.....and Trayvon got the best of him, and had him down, pounding his head on the pavement.....DID GEORGE ZIMMERMAN, THEN HAVE THE GROUNDS TO DEFEND HIMSELF IN ANY MANNER?.....There is only one rational answer to that.....

Level 1

Since: Jun 11

Lansing, MI

#1575 Jun 18, 2013
If his lawyers blew through that much money in this amount of time, they cost too damn much.

I'm sure with this high profile case he could have gotten some big named lawyer or team of lawyers looking for months of free publicity for nothing.

These kind of cases make lawyers and I'm sure a lot of them are salivating over having this case.

I don't feel sorry for any of them.

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#1576 Jun 18, 2013
Go Blue Forever wrote:
Dershowitz is absolutely correct, in that the "case" itself is so weak, as to make the prosecutor, a possible target of the defendent's attorneys......This is a spectacle, designed to quell racist radicals.......and their manufactured outrage......
The only thing that will quell is a guilty verdict as far as I can see.

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Since: Oct 12

Location hidden

#1577 Jun 18, 2013
Brainiac2 wrote:
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The only thing that will quell is a guilty verdict as far as I can see.
Then, everyone should learn to accept, disappointment in their life.....

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Since: Oct 12

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#1578 Jun 18, 2013
Brainiac2 wrote:
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The only thing that will quell is a guilty verdict as far as I can see.
In a way, it could also be argued that, a guilty verdict might be the worst possible thing, if the african-american community ever has real hopes of really fitting into the general population......recall all the good, seeing blacks cheer the OJ verdict did?

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#1579 Jun 18, 2013
somewherebeyondthesea wrote:
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What the hell kind of avatar pic is that on your profile or whatever it is? Is that a mixture of "The Joker and a clown" on crack and that eats too much?" What the hell kind of face is that, "A pie hole?"
dcm1

Chandler, AZ

#1580 Jun 18, 2013
aisling- wrote:
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I agree. There was nothing noted in the dispatcher's response to indicate otherwise. In listening to Trayvon's gf, she even states that the "old man sounded tired". The thing too is if he intended to hunt him down and murder him, it's highly unlikely that a person would call dispatch beforehand. He would have, I would think, have carried out the murder and then called it in.
What's interesting is that Crump turned it around and stated that George initiated the conversation by asking Trayvon what was he doing there and so as to make it out that George was the aggressor when in actuality, Trayvon's own gf states that Trayvon initiated the conversation. My understanding is that Crump will have some answering to do for that.
If you take out all the melodramatics and look at the dispatch transcript, it's pretty clear that there was no stalking and that Trayvon had a head start and lost George. It's pretty well cut and dry as to what happened.
Indeed, if George had planned on hunting Trayvon down and shooting him in cold blood, he would have kept an assured distance.
Of course YOU AGREE....you're talking to yourself, you barren ho!
dcm1

Chandler, AZ

#1581 Jun 18, 2013
aisling- wrote:
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Might I add, and you may already be aware of this, but very shortly after Trayvon's death, his mother trademarked his name and slogans relating to him. That didn't go over very well with people.
"Might I add," YOU have no maternal instincts.....WHATSOEVER!

You have said some of vilest shyte since this young man was MURDERED.

I say again....God knew what he was doing when he made your womb....DEAD!
Chakotay

AOL

#1582 Jun 18, 2013
dcm1 wrote:
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"Might I add," YOU have no maternal instincts.....WHATSOEVER!
You have said some of vilest shyte since this young man was MURDERED.
I say again....God knew what he was doing when he made your womb....DEAD!
DCM ?

I see yo azzz is still flappin yo gumbz again foe no reason at all...

Did you get yoself a new firewall ?

You do know dat obanana is evesdroppin dont cha ?

Hows bout sharing some of dem military secrets on those new anti-submarine missles dat the navy been hidden ?

C'mon now dont be shy .

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