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Sinajuavi
Level 6

Since: Nov 11

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#397 Apr 20, 2013
Its Hellywood wrote:
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They are white immigrants! You and them should get out of MY country. Now go dance for your oppressors.
Shut your mouth smartass. You babble a lot of faux-radical crap but you're fake through and through, boy.

Oppressors? Dance? What? You don't know what my ethnicity is, boy.

I know you're a racist piece of cowardly smartass, though.

Level 8

Since: May 08

Pacific Northwest

#398 Apr 20, 2013
Sinajuavi wrote:
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It's not "white boys", you moron, it's MUSLIMS doing this. Muslims of all colors.

Should we have sterilized all black males after John Mohammed?

You are truly an idiotic, sociopathic and useless misfit, boy. Keep your damned racism to yourself, can you manage that, scumbag?
Oh, I don't know about all that, Barros. I think Hellywood's got a pretty incisive wit when it comes to demolishing these racists. He keeps 'em off balance which is generally a good thing in this forum.
AMF

Etna, OH

#399 Apr 20, 2013
"As police continue to search Boston for Dzhokhar Tsarnaev, the 19-year-old believed to be partly responsible for the Boston Marathon bombings along with his older brother Tamerlan, a key question remains unanswered: What motivated the brothers?

Each of them has left possible clues online.

Tamerlan, who was killed in a shootout earlier today, appears to have been sympathetic to Islamist radicalism. Five months ago he appears to have created a channel on YouTube called “Terrorists.” The channel features videos from the one of the leaders of the insurgency in Dagestan who goes by the name Amir Abu Dudzhan. YouTube appears to have removed two of the videos but in a third features Dudzhan calling for jihad. Holding a Kalashnikov rifle, he says,“Jihad is the duty of every able-bodied Muslim.” Among the other videos on his channel is one of Timur Mutsuraev, the bard of the Chechen resistance in the 1990s; it features his song,“We will devote our lives to jihad.”

The younger brother, Dzokhar, attended school in the Russian Republic of Dagestan from 1999 to 2001, a war-torn part of Russia next to Chechnya, according to his page on a Russian social networking site, Vkontakte. But even though Dzhokhar Tsarnaev indicates on the page an interest in conflicts and causes that have at times been connected to terrorist no solid evidence has emerged so far to suggest that he is motivated by religious or nationalist causes.

On his Vkontakte page he posted video messages sympathetic to the cause of Chechen independence—but Chechen independence from Russia is a cause that has the support of secular as well as Islamist activists. He also expresses sympathy for rebel fighters in Syria and elsewhere. One video bears the Russian title “For those who have a heart,” showing people being brutalized by uniformed men in a country the video identifies as Syria.“They are killing your brothers and sisters without any reason,” the Russian subtitles of the video read.“Simply because they say our Lord is Allah.” The conflict in Syria, however, is almost entirely fought by Muslims on both the rebel and government sides—although the war is increasingly marked by sectarianism, with the Sunni Muslim majority making up the bulk of the rebel forces and the Alawite minority generally supporting the government of Bashar Assad.

Another video on his page seems at first glance to suggest a sympathy for Salafi Islam, an extreme form of Sunni Islam. The video is posted from a blog named Salyafi Street—but it turns out to be about a young blind boy who thanks God for his blindness because it will mean greater mercy for him when God’s judgement comes.

Such videos are relatively common among Muslim youth throughout Russia—and in the ethnic Chechen diaspora—and Tsarnaev’s page contains much lighter fare as well. It features clips from a Russian sketch comedy show that plays on the accents of men from Chechnya and other regions of the Russian Caucasus. In many ways the page seems to be that of a normal ethnically Chechen kid.

It’s unclear when Tsarnaev left the Caucasus region and moved to the United States. An uncle told CNN that the family lived for some time in Kyrgzstan before coming to the United States.According to classmates interviewed by CNN, he went to high school in Boston and worked at Harvard University. One of his acquaintances recalled a conversation Tsarnaev had with a classmate during which Tsarnaev allegedly said,“in relation to acts of terrorism, he said it was not a serious issue if you come from a place where I come from,” the acquaintance, Eric Machado, told CNN.“Those comments raised a red flag in my head.”"

Google, "live leaks massacre in Dagestan". The Russian Spetsnaz having not taken kindly to that. Yep, call those "crakkas" Chechans and you too can feel the love.
AMF

Etna, OH

#400 Apr 20, 2013
"As police continue to search Boston for Dzhokhar Tsarnaev, the 19-year-old believed to be partly responsible for the Boston Marathon bombings along with his older brother Tamerlan, a key question remains unanswered: What motivated the brothers?

Each of them has left possible clues online.

Tamerlan, who was killed in a shootout earlier today, appears to have been sympathetic to Islamist radicalism. Five months ago he appears to have created a channel on YouTube called “Terrorists.” The channel features videos from the one of the leaders of the insurgency in Dagestan who goes by the name Amir Abu Dudzhan. YouTube appears to have removed two of the videos but in a third features Dudzhan calling for jihad. Holding a Kalashnikov rifle, he says,“Jihad is the duty of every able-bodied Muslim.” Among the other videos on his channel is one of Timur Mutsuraev, the bard of the Chechen resistance in the 1990s; it features his song,“We will devote our lives to jihad.”

The younger brother, Dzokhar, attended school in the Russian Republic of Dagestan from 1999 to 2001, a war-torn part of Russia next to Chechnya, according to his page on a Russian social networking site, Vkontakte. But even though Dzhokhar Tsarnaev indicates on the page an interest in conflicts and causes that have at times been connected to terrorist no solid evidence has emerged so far to suggest that he is motivated by religious or nationalist causes.

On his Vkontakte page he posted video messages sympathetic to the cause of Chechen independence—but Chechen independence from Russia is a cause that has the support of secular as well as Islamist activists. He also expresses sympathy for rebel fighters in Syria and elsewhere. One video bears the Russian title “For those who have a heart,” showing people being brutalized by uniformed men in a country the video identifies as Syria.“They are killing your brothers and sisters without any reason,” the Russian subtitles of the video read.“Simply because they say our Lord is Allah.” The conflict in Syria, however, is almost entirely fought by Muslims on both the rebel and government sides—although the war is increasingly marked by sectarianism, with the Sunni Muslim majority making up the bulk of the rebel forces and the Alawite minority generally supporting the government of Bashar Assad.

Another video on his page seems at first glance to suggest a sympathy for Salafi Islam, an extreme form of Sunni Islam. The video is posted from a blog named Salyafi Street—but it turns out to be about a young blind boy who thanks God for his blindness because it will mean greater mercy for him when God’s judgement comes.

Such videos are relatively common among Muslim youth throughout Russia—and in the ethnic Chechen diaspora—and Tsarnaev’s page contains much lighter fare as well. It features clips from a Russian sketch comedy show that plays on the accents of men from Chechnya and other regions of the Russian Caucasus. In many ways the page seems to be that of a normal ethnically Chechen kid.

It’s unclear when Tsarnaev left the Caucasus region and moved to the United States. An uncle told CNN that the family lived for some time in Kyrgzstan before coming to the United States.According to classmates interviewed by CNN, he went to high school in Boston and worked at Harvard University. One of his acquaintances recalled a conversation Tsarnaev had with a classmate during which Tsarnaev allegedly said,“in relation to acts of terrorism, he said it was not a serious issue if you come from a place where I come from,” the acquaintance, Eric Machado, told CNN.“Those comments raised a red flag in my head.”"

Google, "live leaks massacre in Dagestan". The Russian Spetsnaz having not taken kindly to that. Yep, call those "crakkas" Chechans and feel the love.

Sinajuavi
Level 6

Since: Nov 11

Location hidden

#401 Apr 20, 2013
From what we've seen so far I think we can expect to find that the older brother had gone jihadi, and he got the younger one to go along because he was already predisposed to it due to living in Dagestan, and probably admired his big brother.

Well, he ended up rolled into a ball covered in his own blood in someone's boat.

This is the new al Qaeda M.O., individuals on their own, using simple materials, staying under the radar. We may see a lot more of this coming on. Right away it fit the pattern. It was obviously not a white-right thing... they would bomb differently, or use anthrax, and they'd target the govt, not civilians on a Boston street.

JIHADIS is what these 2 are/were.

Interesting reaction now Muslims will be facing in the USA. Might want to leave the headscarf at home today. Might want to shave the chin fuzz.
AMF

Etna, OH

#402 Apr 20, 2013
"The Russian FSB intelligence security service told the FBI in early 2011 about information that Tamerlan Tsarnaev, one of the brothers suspected in the Boston Marathon bombings, was a follower of radical Islam, two law enforcement officials said Saturday."
http://www.timesofisrael.com/fbi-questioned-b...

My understanding, as well, is that the reason the older brother didn't become a US citizen last 9/11 with his mother and younger brother was because he had been arrested for domestic violence and it was delaying the process.
AMF

Etna, OH

#403 Apr 20, 2013
"Tamerlan Tsarnaev, the 26-year-old killed in a wild shootout with police, was a legal U.S. resident who nevertheless could have been removed from the country after a 2009 domestic violence arrest and conviction, according to a Judicial Watch source. That means the Obama administration missed an opportunity to deport Tsarnaev but evidently didn’t feel he represented a big enough threat.

Other reporting confirms Tsarnaev’s arrest for domestic violence but we’re seeking confirmation of a conviction. Nevertheless he would have been subject to removal for the arrest itself.

Adding insult to injury, the other bomber, little brother Dzhokhar Tsarnaev, was rewarded with American Citizenship on September 11, 2012 in Boston, according to JW’s source. The 19-year-old, who is still on the run, was granted asylum in Arlington Virginia on September 27, 2002, JW’s source reveals.

Years before these Chechen terrorists carried out the Boston Marathon bombings Judicial Watch uncovered critical intelligence documents detailing al Qaeda’s activities in Chechnya, including the creation of a 1995 camp—ordered by Osama bin Laden—to train “international terrorists” to carry out plots against Americans and westerners."

http://creepingsharia.wordpress.com/2013/04/2...

As well, "The mother had been arrested for stealing $1600 worth of clothes in June '12.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-23116...

http://www.islam-watch.org/Warner/Taqiyya-Isl...
AMF

Etna, OH

#404 Apr 20, 2013
" Rep. Michael McCaul, chairman of the House Homeland Security Committee, told ABC News it was the six months Tsarnaev spent in Russia that was a significant point for his radicalization.

“When he came back he starting posting more radical jihadist YouTube videos and started becoming more of a fundamentalist Muslim,” McCaul (R-Texas) said.“My concern is that he may have gone over there to visit his father and he received training and then became radicalized and then came back. Something happened in that period of time. He was not like that before.”

"Tamerlan Tsarnaev: Fighter with a hidden hatred" NY Post, April 19, 2013

He was as American as apple pie, a handsome Golden Gloves boxer who wore preppy sweaters, married his high-school sweetheart and tooled around the family’s quaint Boston neighborhood in a Mercedes.

But Tamerlan Tsarnaev, a 26-year-old Chechen immigrant, also harbored an increasingly alarming hatred of his adopted country.

“He said in Russian,‘I don’t like what America is doing,’” a Latvian neighbor told The Post yesterday, recalling a chat he had with the Boston bombing suspect, who was killed early yesterday in a shootout with police in Watertown, Mass.

“I said,‘What do you mean?’ He said,‘I don’t like it because they shouldn’t be in Muslim countries.’’’
http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shru...

"America elected a monster."
Loulou

Slagelse, Denmark

#405 Apr 20, 2013
Walls of Jericho wrote:
And here another example of Moroccan/Islam BS in the Netherlands:
http://barnabasaid.org/Muslim-youths-attack-D...
http://youtu.be/wpImdawOJLw
Kareem O Wheat

Willingboro, NJ

#407 Apr 21, 2013
Stag_R_Lee wrote:
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While your frame of reference is arguable, the violations of the Geneva Convention, by the U.S., is not. The U.S. IS not fighting a Constitutionally Declared war in Afghanistan,
Explain exactly what you mean by constitutionally declared war. Which constitution? The UN's? I thought Afghanistan was approved by the UN and that's why the US was required to own it and take care of it after they broke it until the country has the ability for self rule
Stag_R_Lee wrote:
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neither in Iraq,
I have no idea why people say this is illegal. What most people don't realize is that the US and Iraq never signed a treaty after the first war, there was only a conditional cease fire and that cease fire was based on the completion of full weapons inspections. When Saddam kick out inspectors in 1998, the US had the right to go back to war at that point, but Clinton didn't feel like it
Stag_R_Lee wrote:
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neither in Vietnam, neither in Korea,
And look at what was happening there. Did South Korea want to be communist and part of North Korea? And they still don't today. So you are saying that if the North attacks again, we should tie our hands. And weren't the Soviets were helping North Korea even before the US was helping the South? If the Soviets weren't pushing and arming the North Koreans, maybe we could have stayed out of it And it's funny, but the Soviets never get mentioned in any of this, because they wouldn't have listened to anybody anyway. So it's always the same thing. Ignore the guy who doesn't listen or care, and kick the guy in the shin who does listen. The the freaky part of human nature.
Stag_R_Lee wrote:
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neither in Granada, neither in Panama. In deed, the U.S. is involved in covert "wars" all over the world.
Do you mean like Syria?
Stag_R_Lee wrote:
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They are ALL, ALL, ALL innocents.
Yes, and the leaders and fighters of those places do nothing but knit sweaters. Let's all forget that they used brutal murder to try and achieve their means. But why talk about them? They won't listen or follow any rules anyway. Go kick the guy who listens.
Stag_R_Lee wrote:
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It doesn't matter if we decide to "CALL" them terrorist.
It does matter and I explained the exact difference. Are you going to equate someone who shoots another gang member in a gang fight or maybe misses and hits someone else to someone who purposefully shoots up a little kids school?

What is the matter with you?
Kareem O Wheat

Willingboro, NJ

#408 Apr 21, 2013
Harrisson wrote:
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Oh, I don't know about all that, Barros. I think Hellywood's got a pretty incisive wit when it comes to demolishing these racists. He keeps 'em off balance which is generally a good thing in this forum.
I enjoy him as well, because he's so easy to ridicule and such an easy target.
Kareem O Wheat

Willingboro, NJ

#409 Apr 21, 2013
Sinajuavi wrote:
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It's not "white boys", you moron, it's MUSLIMS doing this. Muslims of all colors.
Should we have sterilized all black males after John Mohammed?
They always behave in the same exact way as others that they claim to hate, as soon as they get their chance. And they're not even aware of it. So when you do it. it's wrong, when they do the same exact thing in reverse, it's always right. See? See how it works?

-0h_really-

“I've got a GREAT idea!”

Since: Mar 13

Let's BUZZ Lower Manhattan....

#410 Apr 21, 2013
Harrisson wrote:
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Oh, I don't know about all that, Barros. I think Hellywood's got a pretty incisive wit when it comes to demolishing these racists. He keeps 'em off balance which is generally a good thing in this forum.
Yup...just here to cheer-lead....smh....
Kareem O Wheat

Willingboro, NJ

#411 Apr 21, 2013
Harrisson wrote:
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No... just to chit-chat with my fellow AAs and to relax and laugh at the zany antics of goofy bigots like you.
It's GOT to be chafing you raw to be in Year 5 of an African-American presidency. LOL - I'm partly here to enjoy seeing you squirm.
Yeah, it must be chaffing all of the white people that voted for him or else he would have never stood a chance. And it's funny, black people can never accept success correctly. They can't just humbly and quietly accept it with class and dignity like others do. Instead they have taunt people to make people wish they never helped them get it in the first place. How come you don't see Asians and Indians act this way?

“Yes WE Can! Yes we Will!”

Level 8

Since: Jul 07

Baltimore, Md.

#412 Apr 21, 2013
Sinajuavi wrote:
From what we've seen so far I think we can expect to find that the older brother had gone jihadi, and he got the younger one to go along because he was already predisposed to it due to living in Dagestan, and probably admired his big brother.
Well, he ended up rolled into a ball covered in his own blood in someone's boat.
This is the new al Qaeda M.O., individuals on their own, using simple materials, staying under the radar. We may see a lot more of this coming on. Right away it fit the pattern. It was obviously not a white-right thing... they would bomb differently, or use anthrax, and they'd target the govt, not civilians on a Boston street.
JIHADIS is what these 2 are/were.
Interesting reaction now Muslims will be facing in the USA. Might want to leave the headscarf at home today. Might want to shave the chin fuzz.
I believe one congressman is saying now that AMERICAN Muslims ought to be under surveillance in light of the Boston bombing. I can only wonder what civil liberties issues this suggestion would create if put into practice. And in America, the religious issue may shade into an issue of race. The largest concentration of Muslims in America are among Middle Eastern Americans and African-Americans(even though we're predominantly Christian). The Muslim is largely seen as the radically "Other" or "Alien" in mainstream America. So are persons of color, especially Blacks.
In the irrational mindset so widespread in the USA we may see a blending or religious and racial intolerance

“Yes WE Can! Yes we Will!”

Level 8

Since: Jul 07

Baltimore, Md.

#413 Apr 21, 2013
Kareem O Wheat wrote:
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Yeah, it must be chaffing all of the white people that voted for him or else he would have never stood a chance. And it's funny, black people can never accept success correctly. They can't just humbly and quietly accept it with class and dignity like others do. Instead they have taunt people to make people wish they never helped them get it in the first place. How come you don't see Asians and Indians act this way?
Harrisson said he enjoyed seeing white BIGOTS squirm, not white people in general. It's remarkable how certain whites, mainly racists, assume that our denunciation of white bigots amounts to a general denunciation of white people.
That assumption implies that white people as a WHOLE are racist, a claim which I know Harrisson did not make, and does not believe.
Haven't you heard about his thread "Time to LOVE White Folks"?
Kareem O Wheat

Willingboro, NJ

#414 Apr 21, 2013
Savant wrote:
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Harrisson said he enjoyed seeing white BIGOTS squirm, not white people in general. It's remarkable how certain whites, mainly racists, assume that our denunciation of white bigots amounts to a general denunciation of white people.
Oh please, read 85% of black people's posts here. If you don't feel that way, congratulations, you are in the minority.
Loulou

Slagelse, Denmark

#415 Apr 21, 2013
I thought Tiger Woods wasn't black. I mean that's what you guys agreed on. on another thread ( need I link )? Lmao . Now everyone thinks he's ugly. Why is it that Obama suddenly is Afro- American and not "judged" by the same criterias as Tiger Woods. I'm telling you why he's not because it's COVNIENT and because he's married to some black woman. On the other hand Tiger Woods it's out of JEALOUSY and you cannot forgive he's married to a white woman. You say, no no no he's NOT black. Take a pick: IS Obama black, white or biracial?
Kareem O Wheat

Willingboro, NJ

#416 Apr 21, 2013
Savant wrote:
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I believe one congressman is saying now that AMERICAN Muslims ought to be under surveillance in light of the Boston bombing. I can only wonder what civil liberties issues this suggestion would create if put into practice. And in America, the religious issue may shade into an issue of race. The largest concentration of Muslims in America are among Middle Eastern Americans and African-Americans(even though we're predominantly Christian). The Muslim is largely seen as the radically "Other" or "Alien" in mainstream America. So are persons of color, especially Blacks.
In the irrational mindset so widespread in the USA we may see a blending or religious and racial intolerance
So who is better? Martin Luther King, or Louis Farrakhan and Malcolm Xcrement?

Sinajuavi
Level 6

Since: Nov 11

Location hidden

#417 Apr 21, 2013
Savant wrote:
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I believe one congressman is saying now that AMERICAN Muslims ought to be under surveillance in light of the Boston bombing. I can only wonder what civil liberties issues this suggestion would create if put into practice. And in America, the religious issue may shade into an issue of race. The largest concentration of Muslims in America are among Middle Eastern Americans and African-Americans(even though we're predominantly Christian). The Muslim is largely seen as the radically "Other" or "Alien" in mainstream America. So are persons of color, especially Blacks.
In the irrational mindset so widespread in the USA we may see a blending or religious and racial intolerance
Islam itself teaches terrorism. That is a core tenet of the Koran and Hadiths. It is INEVITABLE that terrorism will arise out of any Muz population.

Irrational? I would suggest that the Brits are behaving irrationally by allowing jihadi preachers to continue to live in the UK preaching the destruction of the West.

Have you or anyone on the Left ever considered how many rights you'd have under Islamic rule? And how many rights women would have? No, we're too busy making sure not to be discriminatory toward anyone.

Well, I believe in discrimination against Nazis and the same for jihadis. EVERY mosque in the USA needs to be investigated to find out its ties and its preaching, and ANYONE preaching jihad immediately deported.

And people will say, oh but my Muz acquaintances are such nice people... they'd never do such a thing. That's what they were saying about these 2 brothers.
Just regular guys... but they are MUZ!!! There is nothing regular about Islam, as we see EVERY GODDAM DAY.

As for AA Muslims... they have made a very stupid choice. They may pay dearly for it. And they may drag other black people down with them. They should all be talked to very seriously. WHY would they join that devil slaving cult??? WHY?

So do you think avowed Nazis, Christian Identity, etc., should be left alone? Should we not be "intolerant" toward them just because of their belief system? Yet ISLAM is a far more dangerous and vile belief system than any of that, has killed more people than any other social system, and intends NOW to take over the world!!!

DEATH to ISLAM!!!

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