Why Do BW Defend Hair Weave So Much??...
London

Memphis, TN

#225 Sep 30, 2013
APV wrote:
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When I say measure oppression is in regards to your notion that oppression against blacks is more severe than any other form of oppression. What you is your definition of oppression if you refer to the Holocaust as a "tragic event". All events resulting from oppression are tragic.
I also have to respectfully disagree with you on the statement that the Natives have come out with a good deal. To lose 90% of the land to be given a "reservation" to live on is not a good trade off. Many tribes relocated to Canada to avoid dealing with a government that stole their land and way of life.
As for the AA's being pure, do you have a reference to support? Slaves were "breeded" with other slaves so there is some type of mixture that many may not be aware of (especially when you add West Indians to the mix).
The Holocaust was much more blunt than slavery imo because Jewish people were targeted just for killing; whereas blacks were targeted more for labor and later to establish an underclass. Both of course extremely tragic and horrid. To me, the Holocaust is a tragic event because it was much shorter than the long drawn out timeline of slavery and also Jewish people successfully avoided oppression. They succeeded in not becoming an underclass; whereas blacks and other groups may have succeeded in one area but failed miserably in another.

I don't know if I said natives came out with a good deal. I'm actually saying they have gained some redemption in a social sense. I agree that losing their entire continent and way of life was horrible. They came out on the losing end in the battle and no one wants to lose.

As you said, slaves had relations with other slaves. This happened the majority of the time. Most slaves were black. That is not genetic mixture.
London

Memphis, TN

#226 Sep 30, 2013
BeAuTiFuL SoUl wrote:
<quoted text>I am not going to post to you again after this because I really don't like doing the back and forth thing and for the record I am not upset with you in any way. Sorry but I don't care what your experience is experiences do not take away from the overall truth which is this.....AT THE END OF THE DAY all men love beautiful women period REARDLESS of their hairstyle....this I know for a fact. This is my first point.
Second, I am not trying to brag but I am one of those women who is considered beautiful.....not pretty boo boo but actually beautiful. MY fro is extraordinary because of the texture of my hair. You say your hair is curly well curly does not make the best looking fro boo.
Third, it is not true that the MAJORITY of black men like straight hair but they prefer it better on SOME women because some women just do not look all that great with a natural.
I don't think that there is anything wrong with a black woman wearing her hair whatever way she wants too...weather it is straight or natural. Either way she is still a black woman. I am just saying that there are a lot of black men who would LOOOOVE a black woman to wear her hair natural......IF IT BECOMES HER. Just because a woman is black doesn't mean that she looks good with an afro! REAL TALK!
I'm out! PEACE!
Couldn't have said it better myself. Bravo to this post.
Albert B

Walsall, UK

#227 Sep 30, 2013
Blaq honey wrote:
<quoted text> hello Mr Cognito I have much respect for you as a poster you are very intelligent and fair. Now regarding my argument of bm perfer long straight hair- that is a physical trait just like most black men prefer a woman with a nice round thick behind aka Big Butt!! Those are two different things you are referring to good personality traits versus what men like to see a woman look like. My experience is that most black men perfer long straight hair based on experience when I wear my own hair straight the attention I get from black men is way more than when I wear it curly. SAMETHING with my friend Lasheeda she's into the whole natural Afro style and guess who compliments her the most? White men ! most black men don't say anything to her until she wears her hair straight again. Every now and then a Muslim brother will come up to her and say " hey Sista I see you rocking that fro pretty lady" then he gives her a power to the people look!! But besides Bm like him the Muslim Afrocentric type the rest of bm don't pay her that much attention when she goes natural. Just keeping it real on topix! So if most bm prefer long straight hair why wouldn't black women wear that style to get the attention she wants from her own men????
i don't believe you.
I prefer Afro hair and I've been trying to talk my girlfriend into getting it, but she prefers to straighten it using the excuse of work, and 99% of the people she works with are white.

Lasheenda sounds like a fictitious name that is stereotypically ghetto American.

Level 7

Since: Jan 12

Location hidden

#228 Sep 30, 2013
Blaq honey wrote:
<quoted text> hello Mr Cognito I have much respect for you as a poster you are very intelligent and fair. Now regarding my argument of bm perfer long straight hair- that is a physical trait just like most black men prefer a woman with a nice round thick behind aka Big Butt!! Those are two different things you are referring to good personality traits versus what men like to see a woman look like. My experience is that most black men perfer long straight hair based on experience when I wear my own hair straight the attention I get from black men is way more than when I wear it curly. SAMETHING with my friend Lasheeda she's into the whole natural Afro style and guess who compliments her the most? White men ! most black men don't say anything to her until she wears her hair straight again. Every now and then a Muslim brother will come up to her and say " hey Sista I see you rocking that fro pretty lady" then he gives her a power to the people look!! But besides Bm like him the Muslim Afrocentric type the rest of bm don't pay her that much attention when she goes natural. Just keeping it real on topix! So if most bm prefer long straight hair why wouldn't black women wear that style to get the attention she wants from her own men????
BH, first of all, thanks for the kind words, I appreciate it. As far as your post is concerned, I for one, can not and will not attempt to argue, dismiss or refute the finding of a black woman in regards to her empirically derived conclusions about the aesthetic preferences of black men. Even from my observational position as a man, I would agree with you; only I would add that MOST MEN, regardless of race, prefer long hair on a woman, so it's not a black man thing exclusively.

I also understand that in order to secure the interest of a man, you must first get his attention, so I follow your train of reasoning. In this context, hair is like an instrument of negotiation. I get this, which is why, I don't have an expressed problem with "well done weaves" with a close approximation in texture to her natural hair, but what I am saying is that "hair" in this case, only gets her in the door or on the short list, but it is those other intangibles that will compel me to love her, not her hair.

So even if shorty decided to go with a shorter hairstyle, although I may not be ecstatic about it at the moment, I wouldn't stop loving her because of it. I would in fact, be a failure in communicating my love for her, if my girl believed that her romantic tenure with me was based entirely on whether or not she had long hair and not on her other redeeming qualities. So my position is that this whole hair thing with the sisters goes beyond just intoxicating their men. And just as women dress to compete with and for....other women, I also believe this is the case also with hair. Just as men are motivated to build their bodies for the benefits of feminine attention, he also does so to compete with other men for position in the masculine food chain.

“Karma”

Level 3

Since: Apr 12

Location hidden

#229 Sep 30, 2013
BeAuTiFuL SoUl wrote:
<quoted text>I am not going to post to you again after this because I really don't like doing the back and forth thing and for the record I am not upset with you in any way. Sorry but I don't care what your experience is experiences do not take away from the overall truth which is this.....AT THE END OF THE DAY all men love beautiful women period REARDLESS of their hairstyle....this I know for a fact. This is my first point.
Second, I am not trying to brag but I am one of those women who is considered beautiful.....not pretty boo boo but actually beautiful. MY fro is extraordinary because of the texture of my hair. You say your hair is curly well curly does not make the best looking fro boo.
Third, it is not true that the MAJORITY of black men like straight hair but they prefer it better on SOME women because some women just do not look all that great with a natural.
I don't think that there is anything wrong with a black woman wearing her hair whatever way she wants too...weather it is straight or natural. Either way she is still a black woman. I am just saying that there are a lot of black men who would LOOOOVE a black woman to wear her hair natural......IF IT BECOMES HER. Just because a woman is black doesn't mean that she looks good with an afro! REAL TALK!
I'm out! PEACE!
you CLEARLY don't understand the meaning of EXPERIENCE BOO BOO! You cannot not speak like you are the expert on ALL black men in this country stick to what you know which is atlanta men.!!! Straight long hair is preferred whether you wanna accept it or not and study after study confirms this. And thats great that you are considered beautiful and so am I . I get compliments from ALL races of men and have been asked out on dates all the time by Latinos,white men, Asians, Arabs and of course black men so you ain't saying much. You are not the only pretty chick on earth you have to share the stage Hun because when I enter a room it's all eyes on me. So bringing up how beautiful you are is pointless to me. There is clearly more to a woman then her hair. Facial structure, body shape, personality and intelligence count for something too nobody said it was all about hair. Before you jump in a conversation make sure you have read all the posts that way you understand what's going on because clearly you don't. My hair is naturally curly and my hair makes the cutest natural style Miss Jessie's created and entire product line because of people with hair like mine PLEASE.......
no name

Detroit, MI

#231 Oct 5, 2013
I'm not trying to bash on weave but I prefer if the girl wore her natural, weave is kind of like wearing a hat.

“Karma”

Level 3

Since: Apr 12

Location hidden

#232 Oct 5, 2013
Albert B wrote:
<quoted text>i don't believe you.
I prefer Afro hair and I've been trying to talk my girlfriend into getting it, but she prefers to straighten it using the excuse of work, and 99% of the people she works with are white.
Lasheenda sounds like a fictitious name that is stereotypically ghetto American.
that's good for you but most black men still prefer black women with straightended hair where I live. However there is a change happening because I'm starting to see more and more black women wearing their hair natural but most of the times they are with white guys. And black people have the right to name their kids whatever and there is nothing wrong with that! What do you prefer a girl with a FRO named AMY?? Come on now ! I support people naming their kids whateva they want and you shouldn't be ashamed either! Stop living up to white peoples opinions of names!

“Karma”

Level 3

Since: Apr 12

Location hidden

#235 Oct 5, 2013
Cogito2 wrote:
<quoted text>
BH, first of all, thanks for the kind words, I appreciate it. As far as your post is concerned, I for one, can not and will not attempt to argue, dismiss or refute the finding of a black woman in regards to her empirically derived conclusions about the aesthetic preferences of black men. Even from my observational position as a man, I would agree with you; only I would add that MOST MEN, regardless of race, prefer long hair on a woman, so it's not a black man thing exclusively.
I also understand that in order to secure the interest of a man, you must first get his attention, so I follow your train of reasoning. In this context, hair is like an instrument of negotiation. I get this, which is why, I don't have an expressed problem with "well done weaves" with a close approximation in texture to her natural hair, but what I am saying is that "hair" in this case, only gets her in the door or on the short list, but it is those other intangibles that will compel me to love her, not her hair.
So even if shorty decided to go with a shorter hairstyle, although I may not be ecstatic about it at the moment, I wouldn't stop loving her because of it. I would in fact, be a failure in communicating my love for her, if my girl believed that her romantic tenure with me was based entirely on whether or not she had long hair and not on her other redeeming qualities. So my position is that this whole hair thing with the sisters goes beyond just intoxicating their men. And just as women dress to compete with and for....other women, I also believe this is the case also with hair. Just as men are motivated to build their bodies for the benefits of feminine attention, he also does so to compete with other men for position in the masculine food chain.
EXACTLY!! Your opinion means everything to me because you are an intelligent brother . I just don't understand why some people on topix are just so phoney about certain things that they know is the norm! And of course I know beauty can get you in the door but a good personality and chemistry will keep him! And these days your credit score lol!!

“Shed so many tears”

Level 7

Since: Jan 08

Location hidden

#236 Oct 11, 2013
Beer Belly Bobs Ghost wrote:
<quoted text>Stupid, who would prefer fake to real?
Take a look around id-git, alot of men prefer fake because they are always over looking the NATURAL women.
not

Hollywood, FL

#238 Oct 14, 2013
JustdroppedIN wrote:
<quoted text>Take a look around id-git, alot of men prefer fake because they are always over looking the NATURAL women.
Not this guy
Exit Stage Left

United States

#239 Oct 14, 2013
Black women fiercely defend the weaves on their heads because if they get pulled off they all look like Ray Charles.

“New year New you”

Level 5

Since: Jan 12

alright alright.....

#240 Oct 16, 2013
Im rocking a lace front because im letting my natural hair take a break from blow drying and heat. My natural hair is the same length as my lace front so im not giing through dramatics of having crazy locks down my back the next week like some women who wear wigs and weaves do!

“Beautiful Princess.....”

Level 6

Since: Jan 08

Los Angeles, CA.

#242 Oct 17, 2013
Why do WW and certain BM defend the WW's right to be fake but condemn the BW for choosing to look the way she wants. Why would a so called BM start a thread like this when he is a big bytch calling BW sell outs yet he is one.

Who cares why someone that isn't even a part of their lives does something that doesn't concern them. Whining bytches.
Style

London, UK

#243 Nov 4, 2013
ISW__REBORN wrote:
Im rocking a lace front because im letting my natural hair take a break from blow drying and heat. My natural hair is the same length as my lace front so im not giing through dramatics of having crazy locks down my back the next week like some women who wear wigs and weaves do!
Perhaps you can 'rock' this?


Or this?
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
KIP

San Francisco, CA

#244 Nov 4, 2013
I think it's the whole beauty thing.

White women will defend staying thin even when it's not healthy for them.
Black women will defend a weave even at the expense of a happy relationship.

People are just strange.
Bridgette

Memphis, TN

#245 Nov 4, 2013
KIP wrote:
I think it's the whole beauty thing.
White women will defend staying thin even when it's not healthy for them.
Black women will defend a weave even at the expense of a happy relationship.
People are just strange.
Yes, people are strange. There are grown men sittin up talkin about some damn weave. smh.
The Enemy Within

Columbia, MD

#246 Nov 4, 2013
As soon as I hear the click clack of obnoxious high heels coming my way and dark skin with asian/horse hair blowing behind out of the corner of my eye, I head in the other direction.
Style

London, UK

#247 Nov 4, 2013
KIP wrote:
I think it's the whole beauty thing.
White women will defend staying thin even when it's not healthy for them.
Black women will defend a weave even at the expense of a happy relationship.
People are just strange.
So SOME BW equate wearing hats made from the hair of another ETHNIC GROUP with beauty and how did they reach that conclusion?

You couldn't pay the Caucasoid enough money to persuade them to put Black hair in their heads.



You are correct, People are just strange.
Style

London, UK

#248 Nov 4, 2013

“New year New you”

Level 5

Since: Jan 12

alright alright.....

#249 Nov 5, 2013
Style wrote:
<quoted text>
Perhaps you can 'rock' this?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =jAG0lqnc1ZcXX
Or this?
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
Ehh ur arse again i specifically stated im giving my natural hair a break secondly i dont care for that ignorant ugly monkey looking haitian and his hate of black women daily. 3rd those women devolped cancer for. More than likely using glue solvent on their damn head my lacefront is glueless and has combs and some thread to hold it in place. I have hair and manu bw can grow they own hair but when they go natural many of you mentally dilluted men call them nappy say they look manish down right tear them apart. Im so thankful my husband is white trivial shyt like hair dont bother him as long as im comfortable rocking my long semi thin hair or a voluptous weave he supports me!

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