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Spotted Girl

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#156 Nov 29, 2013
Cigar Face wrote:
<quoted text>Whenever i get approached by white women looking for s@X ,its more like a human thing than a degrading act. That is what adults do with their spare time. You act like some emotionally disturbed loser .Are you a blackwoman?
Well, most of us WW don't go looking to BM for sex. The few who do chase after you, you probably don't really want them, at least not as a person (just their body). You are obviously not a woman, since when a woman is busy doing something like grocery shopping, she doesn't want nor expect others to interfere and keep her from her goal.

Of course a predator won't complain when prey comes their way. I don't think a cat is upset when a mouse approaches it, but it does ruin the mouse's day to get chased, attacked, killed, or even eaten.

As long as the cultural and social dynamics between men and women are as they are, and men maintain any gender privilege, then it will be like this. Men will complain that women don't approach them, and women will complain that they do - particularly when the man is ugly, has a messed up life, does drugs, has a prison record, etc. Women care more about class and proper behavior than men. In the past, men who cared about such things were called gentlemen, and were praised. But at AAM influence took over, such men were condemned with gay slurs (despite being straight).

One thing that keeps coming to surface here is the inability of Af. Am. people to see the body and being as two different things. That is why they don't like TS women and disrespect them with male pronouns designed to attack who they are. Nobody changes sex to become anything other than more of what *they*(not their body) already are. But so many US people of color cannot separate the body from the nature and being of a person, or "soul" if you will. They are so trapped in the physical realm and think that is all there is. That ties over to all areas of life. The inability to distinguish the soul from the body is why so many people in Black forums criticize cosmetic surgery, call it self-hate, or call it being fake. The people don't do that to be fake, but to express the real person inside, and to remake the outside to more accurately express the inside. What if you were allergic to fish and bought a can marked corn that is full of fish? You'd probably sue if you survived opening the can.

Similar with makeup. Women usually wear it because that is what society dictates, and because they just want to look nice for themselves. It is more of a matter of self-respect to want to look nice than sex-appeal. Men don't have such urges to look nice just because that is the right thing to do or society expects it or whatever. So they misunderstand such needs in women and assume it is about them (the men).

I remember one time where I was riding my bike home from a meeting in another town. In that town, I was wondering about the strength of my eyes and whether my eyeglass Rx was appropriate. So I covered one eye, then the other, etc., as I looked into space. Then some Mexican pulled to that intersection, and was thinking wrongly that I was making passes at him. The fact he assumed I was doing it for him was so arrogant. He was clearly not of my ethnic group. I never ride for leisure, but when I am in a hurry to do things.

Oh, and despite myths, opposites rarely attract. Most WP want people that are close to how they are. They want to get along with people, not be challenged and kept on defensive.

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#157 Nov 29, 2013
Spotted Girl wrote:
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So how can I give off enough WT vibes to make the undesirables feel repulsed? You know like, "I'd better not f**k with granny or she'll come after me with a sawed-off, double-barreled shotgun!"
One WM in general population had a problem with BM hitting on him in the facility. It took some insane acts and violence to stop it. One kept telling him he liked his nipples and would "get him some a**hole tonight!" Well, this guy says, "You can have my a** right now if you want it. Let me get the lube." Instead, he comes back with a #5 "Masterlock" padlock stuffed into a couple of socks, and beat the f*** out of this guy. Oh, he had to go to the "hole," but a lot left him alone after that. Others were picking about his nipples and he had enough. He broke a razor, cut his nipples off, and tried to hand them to the ones teasing him. And things got crazier after that.
They put him in the hole again for destroying state property (the razor I presume), and made him see a pshrink. The doctor asked him why he cut them off. He said it was mind over matter and that if he didn't mind, it didn't matter. When asked to elaborate, he asked for the doctor's cigar. Guess what he did with it? He dropped his pants and then extinguished the cigar on the head of his penis. Suddenly, the session is over. A CO later asked him what he did to the psychiatrist. The pshrink resigned that day and started seeing a psychiatrist himself. It totally flipped his world.
This is precisely what I am talking about. How do you even know about such anecdotes...You are trash, be it male, female, black or white, you are garbage. Trash attracts trash.

Spotted Girl

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Spotted World

#158 Nov 29, 2013
MrAnderson9 wrote:
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I haven't insulted your gender. You have called males inferior to females. I haven't done any such thing.
That is why we know your other claims are bogus. Just like you attack the male gender and claim you have been attacked for your femininity you also claim to have been harassed by other males.
One could easily look at both arguments and relate one to the other. My attacks on the female gender are not real. You made it up to excuse your attacks on males and to call us inferior and say our privates are filthy etc.
I have said nothing like that regarding females.
Your gender attacks and reasoning for them is the equivalent to your BM attacks and the false reasoning you have made up for them as well.
Here we have obvious examples of you creating a vilian, creating a crisis, and giving yourself reasoning to attack innocent people.
Remember earlier when I told you that all we have to judge you by is what you say and do and how your own words define you regardless of how you attempt to lie and define yourself through dishonesty.... Well there's your example of your behavior defining you differently from how you are attempting to define yourself...
Simply put...
Your gender bashing for no reasons shows us that your BM bashing is for no reason as well.
Do not speak to nor about me ever again.

Spotted Girl

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Spotted World

#159 Nov 29, 2013
MrAnderson9 wrote:
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I will speak as I please.
You have no right to speak to me at all. You are OBLIGATED when a person expresses their wishes to heed them.

You are never to speak to or about me no matter what. I have the right to decide who speaks to me. Just like you have a right to not have those you hate speak to you, I have the right to not have people I dislike or who are beneath me to speak to me.

Learn to have the superior female nature and learn to heed the wishes of others and never violate them no matter what.

Again, you are not to contact me in ANY way.

Spotted Girl

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Spotted World

#160 Nov 29, 2013
dev143 wrote:
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This is precisely what I am talking about. How do you even know about such anecdotes...You are trash, be it male, female, black or white, you are garbage. Trash attracts trash.
A homeless white guy was telling the story.

And why would racist Whites draw low quality BP from 1.5 blocks away?

And what about you? What drew you to post to me? ;-) I am not sure you want to answer that according to your philosophy.

Spotted Girl

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#161 Nov 29, 2013
Me discussing here is purely for impersonal, scientific, and philosophical reasons.

I am a computer nerd, but I have no need to discuss that here. Being white, I am automatically drawn to computers and science. The things I mention like science, philosophy, computers, etc., I do them just for me, never others, and I expect to get to do them alone, and only for me, and without ANY obstacles nor interference.

My interests like computers, philosophy, religion, song-writing, etc. are mostly done alone and dominate my mind constantly when I am not posting online, not speaking to my chosen friends, and not being harassed. I have no reason to bring all my interests here, but that doesn't mean I don't have them. I just want the freedom to be left alone. I want EVERY BM that sees me to automatically *know* not to approach me, just based on my skin and realizing I have my own people, community, friends, and culture and only care about them.

I've never harassed an innocent person in real life and never will. Online is not the real world, just a White, middle-class game that has little bearing on the real world. I only approached the person because he harassed me first. When you do wrong, you have to be punished to remove the advantage from your wrong and to make sure you never do it again. I had every expectation to get on my bike (just like getting inside a car and rolling up the window and closing the door), travel to town lost in my thoughts non-stop without ANY attention from others, to reach my destination, do my business, and to return home again in my vehicle and being left alone. You will never be able to tell me of any time I spoke to anyone who didn't degrade me by speaking to me first without some action on my part saying I welcome that. Speaking to ANY stranger who doesn't speak to you first is harassment, and I've never done it. And online, I started this thread, I didn't harass anyone or speak to anyone in this thread first. They willingly came to what I started.

I don't post here because I enjoy it, but as activism, and getting to struggle, and fighting for my rights. Enough is enough and I refuse to suffer in silence anymore. I mention this harassment problem to most store clerks. And I get practice dealing with the jerks here, so I can apply it to the real world. Eventually, the troublemakers in my town will come here and read my posts, and maybe change. If not, then I can unite with other women (even gay men who are sick of it) and work hard to get laws changed to guarantee that EVERY person can walk or ride to get food, pay bills, work, without being accosted by ANY stranger. When you pass a stranger, just think, "Oh, that is just another person, not worth anymore than anyone else, just another obstacle in life. They probably have their life as they want it already, and have all the friends they want, and they have obviously taken care of themselves up until now and will continue to survive, even if I drop dead right now." After practice, it requires no thought, as the above thought process will happen in the blink of an eye as a gut reflex. Strangers are just part of the background, not commodities to use and exploit. It is like wildlife, some enjoy wildlife properly from a distance. Others kidnap the animals, kill them, or f**k with them.

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#162 Nov 29, 2013
TimeforHonesty wrote:
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What causes so many of you to be so dumb? People go to places not necessarily for sex, socialization or fun, but to discuss an issue that plagues them. Namely, we seek answers to pains in our lives. That is you. We can't speak to you in real life because your mental immaturity and emotions will leave us in serious fear of our lives. This is not to be offensive but to be honest. I have provided many links where others have said similar notions. What are you missing?
ok, take me for example. i don't like white people. i don't like mexicans either. now if i were to spend every free minute i have on a white or mexican forum complaining about whites and mexicans and how they treat black people how they have a fked up culture, wouldn't you think i was nuts? that's is not the act of a sane person. if you have a bone to pick with someone who caused you harm, find the individuals who hurt you. call the police and file a report... join a counseling group and discuss your hurt and pain with people who have had the same experiences as you. the reality is that black people on this forum don't like you and we don't want you among us. but at the same time, we don't wish you any harm...and we would be willing to help isolate you from black men if that would help. but obviously we can't. i'm just saying if you have issues, find a psychologist or someone like that who can help you instead of coming to our african american forum and fkin up our vibe.

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#163 Nov 29, 2013
Spotted Girl wrote:
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Not confused at all. Every objection I raise is in regards to the REAL physical world, never online. Online is a safe-haven, passive, and indirect. Approaching ANY stranger on the street is disrespectful. I protest this treatment online for activism reasons and to promote my cause. What I say here is not about me, just the cause. Yes, I share my examples to illustrate points, and my points should be discussed, not my examples nor me. As with most women, I post to share vulnerability & to relate to others on that level, where they will feel safe to share what happens to them.
I merely started a thread, and nobody forced you to participate. Coming into my thread is about like walking into my home. I never disrespected a single person here by coming up to them on the street when they are clearly in their own world and lost in their own thoughts (like you're supposed to be doing when not conversing with others). I've never flagged cars down nor every approached any of you while you were on bikes. Posting open ended on a message board, not directed to anyone first, is not the same as approaching someone in real life.
I only post online to express myself, vent, & share. It's never about other people nor attention, just expressing myself while not caring about others. It's the expression part that is important, not the reception. Read the Constitution. I have the right to exercise my free speech, without interference. If the others were only trying to chat with me online, I wouldn't be offended. If they are speaking to me here, it is because this is the place for it, not the street. When you see ANY stranger on the street, you must automatically assume they're busy & have all the friends they ever want. Otherwise, they'd be in a place designated for meeting people like a bar, dating site, speed dating meeting.

As I repeatedly share, this is NOT a black forum or a place just for BP. It is to discuss Black issues, including bad things that your people do to others, like White people, and how to stop such behavior. So anyone wanting to discuss your issues has a right to be here, regardless of their side or bias.
As for the contest, it was concluded as of 12:00 AM Monday. I was almost too angry to answer questions, all because of unsolicited contact on the street. I was too distracted to do well and did only half as many as last time.(But there's always February...) So tabbed over here when I couldn't concentrate.
By the way, most women don't care about stupid things like credibility.
but YOU sought US out!...not the other way around. you could be having a great conversation with your own people, but you choose come here. i've had many bad experiences with white people. but you don't see me going to the anglo forum and writing a novel about how i don't like them and they should leave me alone when they see me in the street. that's nuts. nobody on this forum knows you anyway, so how are they gonna know to avoid you unless you post your picture so we can see who you are and make a note not to talk to you?

and fyi, this is an african american forum. that means it's a forum for us blacks to meet and have our own discussions without white people like yourself poking your nose in our business. if you want to talk about us, you can go to any white forum, of which there are hundreds, and create a thread about black people and i'm sure a lotta whites would love to have that conversation.... or even make up your own forum called "let's talk about black people"...trust me, nobody here cares.
Shay

Cleveland, MS

#164 Nov 29, 2013
Drilling for the nerve wrote:
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Thanks for clearing up my confusion!
lol
The 16 year old white boy comment came from a post by Sista Girl. It just seemed like it was written by a white boy who failed Ebonics 101.
Also, I can't recall ever seeing or hearing a black person use the word, dude. That's not saying they never do, it's just saying I can't recall a single instance. I always thought "dude" was a word only a white person would use, so that added to my confusion.
Now what makes you think I'm Sista Girl. I do know that Sista girl isn't a white boy. FYI black people always us the word dude when their talking to someone. It's not just a white boy California thing.
Shay

Cleveland, MS

#165 Nov 29, 2013
GIZLER wrote:
Spottedgirl;
You are a liar & a wannabe elitist. You keep talking about equality, but you said " child of an inferior gender". You said people should be left to their own devices, but turned around & said that " the child should be Beaten till the lust is beat out of them". You said that you don't want attention from Men, but the guy was calling you from up the street, & YOU WALKED UP THERE TO GIVE HIM A PIECE OF YOUR MIND. If you truly wanted to be left alone, you would have ignored him & kept it moving. Every post that you make is a contradiction to a previous post that you made. You want us to believe that you are smart ( the wikicontest) & in control ( telling us that you gotta go play in the contest, I.e. I don't have time for you right now b/c I have better things to do) by saying stay on topic & not about me, but the topic is about you, so that's your way of making it about you. PASSIVE/AGGRESSIVE! By the way. All of these things & many more of your rantings including your OP let's me know
that you are a 14, 15, 16 yr old white girl trying to look down on us lowly BPpl. Sorta like Shirly Temple & that old Black Man. Time for Honesty, Shay, neither one of you are what you say you are either. Drilling for the nerve conferrmed my thought.
How rude. What did I do?

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#166 Nov 29, 2013
Desmond Sandiford wrote:
<quoted text>ok, take me for example. i don't like white people. i don't like mexicans either. now if i were to spend every free minute i have on a white or mexican forum complaining about whites and mexicans and how they treat black people how they have a fked up culture, wouldn't you think i was nuts? that's is not the act of a sane person. if you have a bone to pick with someone who caused you harm, find the individuals who hurt you. call the police and file a report... join a counseling group and discuss your hurt and pain with people who have had the same experiences as you. the reality is that black people on this forum don't like you and we don't want you among us. but at the same time, we don't wish you any harm...and we would be willing to help isolate you from black men if that would help. but obviously we can't. i'm just saying if you have issues, find a psychologist or someone like that who can help you instead of coming to our african american forum and fkin up our vibe.
The difference with your "hate" of others is that mine frustrations with your CULTURE occurs regularly. So many of you on this forum try to justify it too. If we can understand your mentality, fix it, perhaps that will end this unnecessary abuse your lot subject others too. Look at my post from a page back. I cited about six websites with BW and WW discussing AAM "charm."

So you're the spokesperson for that site and you have conducted a survey to determine I am not liked? Fine. I am not here for friendship. I just wish to understand your f'd up mentality so I can use it to repel against your lot or change your perspective.
Shay

Cleveland, MS

#167 Nov 29, 2013
TimeforHonesty wrote:
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Interesting points! How do we get BP en masse to set their own standards? How does Obama exemplify this?
Thanks. President Obama exudes confidence. You see it in the way that he walks, his speech and his love/fondness for his wife. You can definitely see that he has his own mind. How do we get BP to set their own standards? Honestly I think it starts at home. Now their are some people who don't need their parents to give them a head start in that direction.
Shay

Cleveland, MS

#168 Nov 29, 2013
MrAnderson9 wrote:
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The reason why people think you are a white male is because a lot of the things the modern day black female says is the same thing that racists anti black white males say. The black females in this thread, you , spotted girl, Time4Honesty etc all speak like racist anti black white males. Most of what you guys say is no different from the trolls.
Wow that's a big insult. White racist men? They're the last people that I want to sound like, so unattractive. I have noticed that I've gotten too caught up in this race thing. Definitely have to dust it off.

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#169 Nov 29, 2013
Shay wrote:
<quoted text>Wow that's a big insult. White racist men? They're the last people that I want to sound like, so unattractive. I have noticed that I've gotten too caught up in this race thing. Definitely have to dust it off.
Not to pit you against him, but you should really pay him no heed. He is the type who wants to intimidate others into submission by making you feel paranoid and insecure. You have done nothing for him to make those accusations. My telling my real life experiences has him deem me "anti-black." It's B.S.

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#170 Nov 29, 2013
Desmond Sandiford wrote:
<quoted text>but YOU sought US out!...not the other way around. you could be having a great conversation with your own people, but you choose come here. i've had many bad experiences with white people. but you don't see me going to the anglo forum and writing a novel about how i don't like them and they should leave me alone when they see me in the street. that's nuts. nobody on this forum knows you anyway, so how are they gonna know to avoid you unless you post your picture so we can see who you are and make a note not to talk to you?
and fyi, this is an african american forum. that means it's a forum for us blacks to meet and have our own discussions without white people like yourself poking your nose in our business. if you want to talk about us, you can go to any white forum, of which there are hundreds, and create a thread about black people and i'm sure a lotta whites would love to have that conversation.... or even make up your own forum called "let's talk about black people"...trust me, nobody here cares.
The irony is that your frustrations is only one part of how we feel when in real life AAM constantly impose in our day to day functions, including shopping, eating, sitting, and even in private conversations. I don't just feel frustrated, I feel worried about my safety when others refuse to read my cues, and I feel anger.

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#171 Nov 29, 2013
Shay wrote:
<quoted text>Thanks. President Obama exudes confidence. You see it in the way that he walks, his speech and his love/fondness for his wife. You can definitely see that he has his own mind. How do we get BP to set their own standards? Honestly I think it starts at home. Now their are some people who don't need their parents to give them a head start in that direction.
Hm...I can never tell who is the politician and who is the man with famous leaders. Are there others who you can cite to that act similarly to Obama?
Shay

Cleveland, MS

#172 Nov 30, 2013
TimeforHonesty wrote:
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Hm...I can never tell who is the politician and who is the man with famous leaders. Are there others who you can cite to that act similarly to Obama?
Most famous people don't have their own minds, that's just my opinion. They play the heck out of the Simon say's game in my opinion. They seem to be dictated by popularity. They do whatever is the popular thing to do instead of what they want, they seem to be people pleasers. Some are probably ok with their physical appearance, but since Hollywood isn't satisfied they go and get plastic surgery. Hollywood dictates who they marry, and that is why I believe most of their marriages don't last long. Well I have noticed that some celebrities are trying to break free from being dictated by Hollywood/others. I've heard some female Italian celebrity women brag on their large noses. They vow not to have plastic surgery because they truly like their noses. I can't personally name anyone who's similar to President Obama.

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#173 Nov 30, 2013
Shay wrote:
<quoted text>Most famous people don't have their own minds, that's just my opinion. They play the heck out of the Simon say's game in my opinion. They seem to be dictated by popularity. They do whatever is the popular thing to do instead of what they want, they seem to be people pleasers. Some are probably ok with their physical appearance, but since Hollywood isn't satisfied they go and get plastic surgery. Hollywood dictates who they marry, and that is why I believe most of their marriages don't last long. Well I have noticed that some celebrities are trying to break free from being dictated by Hollywood/others. I've heard some female Italian celebrity women brag on their large noses. They vow not to have plastic surgery because they truly like their noses. I can't personally name anyone who's similar to President Obama.
Good points. I'd take your theory further and say most people in general don't have their own minds. Why do you think President Obama was able to escape this issue?
Drilling for the nerve

Batavia, NY

#174 Nov 30, 2013
I need to preface my next 2 posts by saying I'm not the one who broached the subject of Obama. I'm just responding to posts where Obama has been mentioned. Consider it a valiant, but futile, attempt to help blind people see.
Cigar Face

United States

#175 Nov 30, 2013
Spotted Girl wrote:
<quoted text>t nor expect others to interfere and keep her from her goal.
Of course a predator won't complain when prey comes their way. I don't think a cat is upset when a mouse approaches it, but it does ruin the mouse's day to get chased, attacked, killed, or even eaten.
As long as the cultural and social dynamics between men and women are as they are, and men maintain any gender privilege, then it will be like this. Men will complain that women don't approach them, and women will complain that they do - particularly when the man is ugly, has a messed up life, does drugs, has a prison record, etc. Women care more about class and proper behavior than men. In the past, men who cared about such things were called gentlemen, and were praised. But at AAM influence took overalm and think that is all there is. That ties over to all areas of life. The inability to distinguish the soul from the body is why so many people in Black forums criticize cosmetic surgery, call it self-hate, or call it being fake. The people don't do that to be fake, but to express the real person inside, and to remake the outside to more accurately express the inside. What if you were allergic to fish and bought a can marked corn that is full of fish? You'd probably sue if you survived opening the can.
Similar with makeup. Women usually wear it because that is what society dictates, and because they just want to look nice for themselves. It is more of a matter of self-respect to want to look nice than sex-appeal. Men don't have such urges to look nice just because that is the right thing to do or society expects it or whatever. So they misunderstand such needs in women and assume it is about them (the men).
I remember one time where I was riding my bike home from a meeting in another town. In that town, I was wondering about the strength of my eyes and whether my eyeglass Rx was appropriate. So I covered one eye, then the other, etc., as I looked into space. Then some Mexican pulled to that intersection, and was thinking wrongly that I was making passes at him. The fact he assumed I was doing it for him was so arrogant. He was clearly not of my ethnic group. I never ride for leisure, but when I am in a hurry to do things.
Oh, and despite myths, opposites rarely attract. Most WP want people that are close to how they are. They want to get along with people, not be challenged and kept on defensive.
Stop with the long paragraphs! What i wrote to you was, Whenever a whitewomen approaches me for s@x i dont make eye contact i semply nod and keep moving. Im into sistahs and latinas ,no Caucasian women. Because its what i know about you women. For instanc, who teaches the kids their first moral codes? The mother. You ruin your kids with hate! Most whiteguys ive worked with dont find whitewomen worth the chase. They have latinas,asian,black,indian, cause whitewomen are messed up just like you! Bitter vindictive jealous and a closet blackman lover. Whenever you see whitewomen with a healthy azz. She' s usually into blackmen. Can you explain that? A white police woman pulled me over on a speeding summon. She let me go cause i look like a famous R&B singer. And gave me her number . Im not into whitewomen that way. Im the blackman who wouldn't even look at you in public. I wouldn't get behind you in a checkout line. If you got near me i would talk on my phone to run u off. I dont hate you,im sure its some good whitewomen out there. Its only one white woman i can actually work out and watch football with Jessica biel! These guys who approach you are losers! Common sense will tell you not to approach a spaced out looking woman whos looking for a fight. But you got some soul in you. Thats something i detect in your writing. Im telling you the trut. Im not hitting on you or lusting after you. Im not into crazy woman,its a form of self hate.

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