Does race matter to you? Why/why not?
ugly monkeys

Etobicoke, Canada

#884 Jul 4, 2014
If you are racist it means your parents failed at raising you with proper morals, ethics, and basic empathy for your fellow man. Your parents failed at socializing you and stunted your personal development. You ever wonder why most racist white people are not productive members of society? Basic sociology.
Bigsmoke

London, UK

#885 Jul 4, 2014
Desmond Sandiford wrote:
<quoted text> dude...she's not judging them because of their race. she's judging them by what they have DONE!...and by what they continue to DO. That's the difference between so-called "black racists" and "white racists." White racists hate blacks for being black...although they will often concoct some other "reason" to justify their racism so they don't appear to be immoral. "black racists" don't hate whites for being white...they hate whites because whites have actively or passively supported a system that oppresses blacks. If a white man slaps you in the face because you're black, and you slap him back in the face, are you doing it because he's white? No, you're doing it because he hit you. It's the same thing darline is doing... for you to call her a racist because she's judging whites and fightging racism witgh racism only breeds more racism is ridiculous. she is simply acknowledging who her enemy is...the fact that you refuse to do the same only makes you look weak and stupid.
and i didn't follow any discussion about the slave trade...i was following her exchanges with a couple of idiots on this thread.
Yes she has and you're doing it here.

Who is this ''they'' other than all white people collectively? You're claiming they've all done and continue to do something when clearly that's not the case. You're no different than those racists who accuse all black people of the crimes one black individual did. You lack logic and you're racist. Accept it, I use to be racist and accepted it. Why can't you two do the same?

Terrible example the example of both you and darline is one white person slaps you so you both need to slap all white people. Cut the crap already.
darline

Silver Spring, MD

#887 Jul 4, 2014
Bigsmoke wrote:
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Yes she has and you're doing it here.
Who is this ''they'' other than all white people collectively? You're claiming they've all done and continue to do something when clearly that's not the case. You're no different than those racists who accuse all black people of the crimes one black individual did. You lack logic and you're racist. Accept it, I use to be racist and accepted it. Why can't you two do the same?
Terrible example the example of both you and darline is one white person slaps you so you both need to slap all white people. Cut the crap already.
Go talk that shyt to the klan, or these gun toting crackers going into black neighborhoods with high powered automatic weapons starting stuff with black people that are not bothering them. Why aren't you calling them out? I'm not gonna change for you or no one else. Keep gettin mad.
Bigsmoke

London, UK

#888 Jul 4, 2014
darline wrote:
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Go talk that shyt to the klan, or these gun toting crackers going into black neighborhoods with high powered automatic weapons starting stuff with black people that are not bothering them. Why aren't you calling them out? I'm not gonna change for you or no one else. Keep gettin mad.
I've called out all racists on here but you seem to focus solely on my comments directed at you. You have the same mindset as the klan not me.
darline

Silver Spring, MD

#889 Jul 4, 2014
Bigsmoke wrote:
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Well unlike you I am not claiming to know for sure how someone who I've never ever seen before looked like. These people lived in modern day south west Asia for sure (still not a certainty) just around 4,000 years ago, so logically they most likely would of resembled the people who still inhabit that region. Ancient Egyptians painted such people to be pale skinned in comparison to them....non blacks in my eyes.
Why are you concerned with what I'm worried about?
I've never claimed to be a liberal, something I clearly am not.
''Afro-Asiatic'' is simply a title for a large language family you could call it anything as long as it is used to describe this language family. It originated in east Africa and spread into Asia. Today it's languages are spoken in east, west & north Africa and south west Asia hence why the use of ''Afro-Asiatic''. It's not one language by the way.
Just because they drew one group of pale people don't mean they all people of that area were. Naturally people are more curious about and make note of people that are different in appearance rather than more similar.

You follow me around threads bringing up the slave trade (bitter about a debate from months ago) but never answer my questions that I ask you. All I asked for is the logistics of it and you can't deliver but claim to uphold logic.

I knew Afro-Asiatic was a language family. I'm not sure of where it originated, due to the extensive contact between east Africa and Asia well before the language family was documented. I'm not totally sure it could of been east Africa, I'm open to the possibility though and still checking it out. I don't always agree with European scholarship due to their reputation of interjecting propaganda in everything they do.

Level 8

Since: Jan 11

Location hidden

#890 Jul 5, 2014
Bigsmoke wrote:
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Who here claimed human evolution stopped? Evolution is doesn't stop until all life ceases. The article you sourced does not apply to my argument what so ever.
Yes human populations vary genetically but within the so called ''black race'' it varies greatly compared to the rest of non blacks combined. So what's your point? The distance between two Khoisan people for instance can be much greater than the difference between a European and an Asian yet the two Khoisan will look very much alike. Yet they're all just black. West Africans who we both deem black are more closer related to northern Europeans (whites) than Andamanese people who I deem to be black. In countries like Brazil you can find people we'd both deem black who are in fact mostly European. What you see in ones appearance (how we judge race) and in their DNA are two completely different things. So yes the black race remains a social construct, where in that article does it state otherwise?
Quote from the article you sourced:
''The three principal races are Africans (those who live south of the Sahara), East Asians (Chinese, Japanese, and Koreans), and Caucasians (Europeans and the peoples of the Near East and the Indian subcontinent).''
According to this nonsense I'd be mixed race (African/Caucasian) and native Americans, Australian aborigines etc don't even exist. One shouldn't be quick to swallow up everything they read.
Dude, just stop...just say you believe what you want to believe and that's that. I'm not gonna waste anymore of my time exposing your baseless fantasies about race being a construct... i just feel sorry for you pathetic new-wave sambos thinking you found your "salvation" from your blackness.

Level 8

Since: Jan 11

Location hidden

#891 Jul 5, 2014
Bigsmoke wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes she has and you're doing it here.
Who is this ''they'' other than all white people collectively? You're claiming they've all done and continue to do something when clearly that's not the case. You're no different than those racists who accuse all black people of the crimes one black individual did. You lack logic and you're racist. Accept it, I use to be racist and accepted it. Why can't you two do the same?
Terrible example the example of both you and darline is one white person slaps you so you both need to slap all white people. Cut the crap already.
How is it "CLEARLY not the case"?...clearly you don't even understand what's going on around you, so of course you didn't understand my example...the point is, name FIVE prominent white people today who fight against racism and stand up against other whites to speak out against white supremacy. in fact, name me 3...ALL whites or at least 99.9999% of them actively or passively support the system of white supremacy...support of racism by silent acquiescence makes you just as guilty as the white HRO who is denying blacks jobs because of race, or the medical professionals giving blacks substandard care, the average whites and real estate companies that deny apartments to blacks, the judges giving blacks jail time for crimes whites get a slap on the wrist for, white employers who promote whites over blacks, media people who portray blacks only in negative roles etc...tit's everywere in this society...in fact, this forum is filled with racist white trolls, but the person you choose to pick on is a bw who is defending herself against her racist white enemies? that's pretty cowardly....i mean, you the same guy who had a problem admitting that black soccer players face racism...but you have no problem jumping on a bw for being "racist" when all she's doing is giving her enemies a taste of their own medicine. you're a ridiculous jackass!
Toc

Houston, TX

#892 Jul 5, 2014
No it don't matter to me beacause it sheer don't matter to my family by the way it looks
Bigsmoke

London, UK

#893 Jul 5, 2014
darline wrote:
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Just because they drew one group of pale people don't mean they all people of that area were. Naturally people are more curious about and make note of people that are different in appearance rather than more similar.
You follow me around threads bringing up the slave trade (bitter about a debate from months ago) but never answer my questions that I ask you. All I asked for is the logistics of it and you can't deliver but claim to uphold logic.
I knew Afro-Asiatic was a language family. I'm not sure of where it originated, due to the extensive contact between east Africa and Asia well before the language family was documented. I'm not totally sure it could of been east Africa, I'm open to the possibility though and still checking it out. I don't always agree with European scholarship due to their reputation of interjecting propaganda in everything they do.
They were most likely non black, they also lived immediately next to where pale skin arose.

You started this, I merely mentioned you to another character. I answered all of your questions here yet as usual here you are pretending that I didn't.

All evidence points to the Afro-Asiatic language family originating in east Africa, probably modern day Ethiopia. I don't know what would be eurocentric about claiming a language family originated in Africa if that's what you're implying, correct me if I'm wrong.
Bigsmoke

London, UK

#894 Jul 5, 2014
Desmond Sandiford wrote:
<quoted text> Dude, just stop...just say you believe what you want to believe and that's that. I'm not gonna waste anymore of my time exposing your baseless fantasies about race being a construct... i just feel sorry for you pathetic new-wave sambos thinking you found your "salvation" from your blackness.
So how comes I have not denied that I am black? Why is it I've come on here and expressed that I am black when nobody even knows how I look? You do know many eurocentrics, the US census and many people from that region claim half of my ancestry as being ''caucasian'' yet I've never claimed such a thing and have argued against such statements. Salvation from my blackness you say....

You can't argue against logic. It's not a belief it's an ''understanding'', it's you who is expressing their ''beliefs'' here.
Bigsmoke

London, UK

#895 Jul 5, 2014
Desmond Sandiford wrote:
<quoted text> How is it "CLEARLY not the case"?...clearly you don't even understand what's going on around you, so of course you didn't understand my example...the point is, name FIVE prominent white people today who fight against racism and stand up against other whites to speak out against white supremacy. in fact, name me 3...ALL whites or at least 99.9999% of them actively or passively support the system of white supremacy...support of racism by silent acquiescence makes you just as guilty as the white HRO who is denying blacks jobs because of race, or the medical professionals giving blacks substandard care, the average whites and real estate companies that deny apartments to blacks, the judges giving blacks jail time for crimes whites get a slap on the wrist for, white employers who promote whites over blacks, media people who portray blacks only in negative roles etc...tit's everywere in this society...in fact, this forum is filled with racist white trolls, but the person you choose to pick on is a bw who is defending herself against her racist white enemies? that's pretty cowardly....i mean, you the same guy who had a problem admitting that black soccer players face racism...but you have no problem jumping on a bw for being "racist" when all she's doing is giving her enemies a taste of their own medicine. you're a ridiculous jackass!
I am fully aware of my surroundings actually. They're literally thousands if not millions of white liberals out there who fight against racism and even promote positive discrimination against whites in favour of non whites. If none existed you'd still be a slave or jim crow laws would still exist in your country.

You're crying over trivial things, acting like you're a Jew in Nazi Germany or your suffering is on par with those currently in Syria. You live in a majority white country yet I'm sure you live a comfortable life, yes there is racism and discrimination against people like us in our societies but we both have the freedom to leave.

Does it look like ''darline'' is the only person I've argued with on the internet? Do I need to show you the arguments I've had with racist whites on here and on other sites? I've even argued with David Duke the former leader of the KKK and made him look stupid to the point that he blocked me from commenting on his YouTube page.

When did I have a problem admitting that black soccer players face racism? Just because a black player didn't get his azz licked by the commentary you heard you call that racism? Racism faced by black football players is like when they have to endure racist chants in the crowd or bananas being thrown at them.

You seem desperate to be accepted by whites or something. Are you that dependant on them? You think way too much about them.
Bigsmoke

London, UK

#896 Jul 5, 2014
''System of white supremacy''.....lol

Unless all white people exclusively in your society can make legal tender, are the only ones allowed to vote and are all the only authority then you clearly do not know what you're on about.

Black people who believe ''white supremacy'' or the famous ''white man'' exists are simply scared of white people, they feel inferior to them, they also secretly seek their collective acceptance. Pathetic really.

Discrimination and racism is done/expressed by individuals not entire racial groups. Get a grip.

Level 8

Since: Jan 11

Location hidden

#897 Jul 5, 2014
Bigsmoke wrote:
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I am fully aware of my surroundings actually. They're literally thousands if not millions of white liberals out there who fight against racism and even promote positive discrimination against whites in favour of non whites. If none existed you'd still be a slave or jim crow laws would still exist in your country.
You're crying over trivial things, acting like you're a Jew in Nazi Germany or your suffering is on par with those currently in Syria. You live in a majority white country yet I'm sure you live a comfortable life, yes there is racism and discrimination against people like us in our societies but we both have the freedom to leave.
Does it look like ''darline'' is the only person I've argued with on the internet? Do I need to show you the arguments I've had with racist whites on here and on other sites? I've even argued with David Duke the former leader of the KKK and made him look stupid to the point that he blocked me from commenting on his YouTube page.
When did I have a problem admitting that black soccer players face racism? Just because a black player didn't get his azz licked by the commentary you heard you call that racism? Racism faced by black football players is like when they have to endure racist chants in the crowd or bananas being thrown at them.
You seem desperate to be accepted by whites or something. Are you that dependant on them? You think way too much about them.
i asked you to name 3 that exist today and you couldn't do it...but i bet you can name a thousand right off the bat who support white racism. That speaks for itself...anything blacks have achieved in america has been in spite of white racism. whites have done nothing to help us and a whole lot to keep us back.

but it says a lot about you that you would come to a black message board claiming to be black and to tell blacks that the problems of racism that affect our lives are "trivial" lol... you're not somebody to be taken seriously. you're either a white troll or a sambo apologist for white racism.
Style

London, UK

#898 Jul 5, 2014
Bigsmoke wrote:
''System of white supremacy''.....lol
Unless all white people exclusively in your society can make legal tender, are the only ones allowed to vote and are all the only authority then you clearly do not know what you're on about.
Black people who believe ''white supremacy'' or the famous ''white man'' exists are simply scared of white people, they feel inferior to them, they also secretly seek their collective acceptance. Pathetic really.
Discrimination and racism is done/expressed by individuals not entire racial groups. Get a grip.
My favourite scene from Shawshank Redemption is when the Tim Robbins character is up in the Warden's office and accuses the Warden of being 'obtuse' and the Warden doesn't know if he's just been insulted because he doesn't know what the word 'obtuse' means. You just been called a DUMBASS, DUMBASS!

Well I accuse YOU, and all the other White apologist who want to come to this forum and intellectually MASTURBATE, of being 'obtuse'.

You fckers all have an agenda...to bed as many non-Black females as you can. So let's have FULL disclosure.

Racism is a SYSTEM and is based on a POWER relationship between GROUPS. In the interest of brevity I won't expand or give examples to support this statement....unless I have to, so I will leave you with this from a post which I made in another thread regarding ALL White people:
Style wrote:
According to the BIBLICAL text, people would often approach Jesus and ask him a dumb question. The record also shows that Jesus would think about the question and tell a story...a parable. The point being, once you understood the story, then you would answer your own dumbass question.
I regard this approach as a very effective teaching method, and so here is my parable regarding white racism...

You are a member of a union. And after a vote your union decides to strike for better pay and conditions. You, however, do not agree with this decision and decide to cross the picket line and work. After a week management decides to capitulate and grant some concessions. The strike is now over.
Now the question is: Do you, a person of high principle and integrity, reject the new benefits...or do you take the extra money and keep your mouth shut?
'Good' White people have been keep their mouths shut for the last 400 years. How else can you explain the continued existence of Racism/ White Supremacy? I was lead to believe that the real racist whites were in the minority...

Level 8

Since: Jan 11

Location hidden

#899 Jul 5, 2014
Style wrote:
<quoted text>
My favourite scene from Shawshank Redemption is when the Tim Robbins character is up in the Warden's office and accuses the Warden of being 'obtuse' and the Warden doesn't know if he's just been insulted because he doesn't know what the word 'obtuse' means. You just been called a DUMBASS, DUMBASS!
Well I accuse YOU, and all the other White apologist who want to come to this forum and intellectually MASTURBATE, of being 'obtuse'.
You fckers all have an agenda...to bed as many non-Black females as you can. So let's have FULL disclosure.
Racism is a SYSTEM and is based on a POWER relationship between GROUPS. In the interest of brevity I won't expand or give examples to support this statement....unless I have to, so I will leave you with this from a post which I made in another thread regarding ALL White people:
<quoted text>
'Good' White people have been keep their mouths shut for the last 400 years. How else can you explain the continued existence of Racism/ White Supremacy? I was lead to believe that the real racist whites were in the minority...
what happens to some of these brothas is they start to get some white pu88y and now they feel like they on that "other level"...it's like a boost to their self-esteem. many of them never believed it was possible to get a ww to notice them....now they have some extra-average white chick and they head is all fat...and she's filling their heads with all this white people mindset, so they go along to get along...and start saying sh8t like "fighting racism with racism only creates more racism" and not offering any alternatives. cause it's much easier to betray the black race. they really don't give a sh8t. they will even trivialize the problems blacks face in our daily lives to win favor with their whitey. this is what racism does to some black folks...robs them of their dignity to the point where they even start to attack other blacks who retaliate against racism and they themselves start to become very silent on the issue of white racism.
Trouble

Brooklyn, NY

#900 Jul 5, 2014
Style wrote:
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'Good' White people have been keep their mouths shut for the last 400 years. How else can you explain the continued existence of Racism/ White Supremacy? I was lead to believe that the real racist whites were in the minority...
Your argument is weak. So i guess you acknowledge that only a portion of the white race established the system, but that your point is that good whites are culprits because they did not work, or work hard enough, to destroy the system. That's BS. First of all, there were alot of whites that were not only against it, but did take action to end it, they ended up in the morgue. That's why "good whites" don't do it today. The elite/oligarchy have the power to make people disappear. White people don't have to risk their lives for black people; if the roles were reversed, i'm sure you would not put your, or your family's life in danger by playing hero, no matter how much you really wanted to help.

As for your parable about the union, that also is a weak argument. The point you seem to be making is that ANYBODY would "keep their mouth shut" if it benefits them. Ok- so then those white people that kept their mouth shut are not any different from a black,Chinese, whatever who would also do the same in those circumstances; so why blame common whites when we know blacks would do the same anyway? They are not responsible for the system's establishment, but you feel they go along with it because it benefits them. According to your parable about the union, blacks or anyone else would do the same, so what's your point?

Since: Jun 14

Location hidden

#901 Jul 5, 2014
Hannia wrote:
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Ok?? And? Tell it to a White girl.
And you calling me ugly has absolutely zero effect.
LOLOLOLOL.

OK, HELLperson (one of the people of hell; a White person.) That means that you are in HELL. The condition of your life is HELL lol; hell is where you are.

Keep on BURNing, you ugly b*tch (dog; White woman.)
darline

Silver Spring, MD

#902 Jul 5, 2014
Bigsmoke wrote:
<quoted text>
They were most likely non black, they also lived immediately next to where pale skin arose.
You started this, I merely mentioned you to another character. I answered all of your questions here yet as usual here you are pretending that I didn't.
All evidence points to the Afro-Asiatic language family originating in east Africa, probably modern day Ethiopia. I don't know what would be eurocentric about claiming a language family originated in Africa if that's what you're implying, correct me if I'm wrong.
You said it probably originated in modern day Ethiopia, well "probably" isn't solid enough.

I don't buy into the out of Africa theory or evolution theory. They are theories because they can't be proven as facts.My view has nothing to do with animosity toward Africans. It is eurocentric to me because these theories are a tool of white hegemony.

Here's the fraudulent story line:

A group of Africans left Africa, inhabited the other continents and evolved into the white/non-black races. The billion plus kinky haired brown skinned population outside of Africa (the entire western hemisphere and middle east/India) are explained away by slavery (the forced movement of kinky haired brown skinned people into supposedly non-black territories). This theory gives whites and through association non-blacks claim to Africa (since all people supposedly originated from there) AND claim to all other continents, while it doesn't work the other way around with kinky haired brown skinned people having claims to other continents. This in their mind gives them permission to rule the planet (Africa included) while we keep perpetuating this madness.

You still haven't answered my questions that I posed to you in this thread but expect me to believe it. I just want to know the logistics of these folks depopulating one continent by force and then repopulating a whole other continent by force with minimal resources, technology and man power. You started it by bringing my name up, it shows your bitterness cause I won't take your version of the history of my ethnic group. You can say what you want but you have to show and prove to me.

Since: Jun 14

Location hidden

#903 Jul 5, 2014
TimeforHonesty wrote:
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What makes the woman ugly to you?
White women can be very ugly or tend to be uglier than Black women because of how flat White women can be (in the buttocks area) and the curve of their hips tend to be uglier on average than Black women.

Ugly b*tches!(dogs who want to hump whatever they see moving)

“Wife of Vanwyngarden :)”

Since: May 14

Location hidden

#904 Jul 5, 2014
To all the people living on the internet.. race matters

to all of us who are secure under our skin, intelligent and have lives. race isnt important.. because we are smart enough to judge one as a individual, not a group.:)

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