Zimmerman.....A Clear Case Of Self De...
Anonymous

United States

#316 Jun 26, 2013
GrouchoMarxist wrote:
<quoted text>
Oppressed by an "inferior" race.
OOOOOOO, yeah, I'm "jealous" of THAT.
lol
Who's inferior I'm not the one who'll be burnt to a crisp in 20 years from global warming. Black is a dominate color. You can't do nothing to me without a weapon or an army.

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#317 Jun 26, 2013
GrouchoMarxist wrote:
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Me too. Difference is, my opinion is based on fact.
Your opinion is based on something someone you can't even name said over a year ago, that has nothing to do with what's going on.
She's an Attorney. She was the first attorney I saw that touched on the Stand Your Ground Law.
Roofis wit da Gold Toofis

Lakeland, FL

#318 Jun 26, 2013
Allen wrote:
<quoted text>They can't handle the fact that Trayvon Martin was a racist ghetto thug who thought he was going to be a bad ass and beat Zimmerman up. Zimmerman was acting in self defense, and should be found not guilty.
Bingo. Well said and I don't think "Precious's" testimony helped the prosecution either. LOL

GrouchoMarxist

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#319 Jun 26, 2013
Global Take Over wrote:
<quoted text> Who's inferior I'm not the one who'll be burnt to a crisp in 20 years from global warming. Black is a dominate color. You can't do nothing to me without a weapon or an army.
Wow. I have to dumb this down for you?

OK,
WHITES are the "inferior" race in my question, as you just demonstrated is a monolithic non-white view.(That means most blacks believe it.)

Blacks constantly claim that they are "oppressed" by those "inferior" whites, so again, I say,
....I'm supposed to want to BE like that?
Oppressed,....by an "inferior" race?

(
Roofis wit da Gold Toofis

Lakeland, FL

#320 Jun 26, 2013
big baby wrote:
<quoted text>no you have me confused with zimmerman he will be shining shoes, cleaning toilets and getting his colon cleaned when he is found guilty and sentenced to "hard time".
You big babies sure are proud of your butt rape. Smdh das TERBUHL

GrouchoMarxist

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#321 Jun 26, 2013
MDJ2011 wrote:
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She's an Attorney. She was the first attorney I saw that touched on the Stand Your Ground Law.
Like I said, someone you can't even name,
....yet you base your self-important "opinion" on what she said. A year ago.

lol.

Look, I'm doing OK in this debate with you all by myself,
... you don't need to help me like that.

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#322 Jun 26, 2013
Anti-Fascism wrote:
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So merely following someone from afar [on public property] is grounds to "get your butt whooped"? And you think this is justified action, apparently by the way you said this and are clearly implying.
That's exactly what we're talking about here. How can we have a debate with those who think it's OKAY to physically assault someone merely for going in the same direction on PUBLIC ROADS / SIDEWALKS, as is their RIGHT to do so, anyway?
Your type have no credibility in this case. Your opinions are now wasted cyber space.
Now you're backing Zimmerman up by saying he did not attack Trayvon first but Trayvon attacked Zimmerman first.
You dug your own hole here.
You don't ATTACK people based on ASSUMPTION, especially in public. Sorry. If Trayvon was on his personal property and someone entered illegally, it'd be a different story.
It's mere common sense. Afar? lol! Have you seen that neighborhood. He couldn't have been that far away.

And if one of my brothers were following you.

You would be comfortable with that?

Following someone when you're not law enforcement is normal to you?

That would make anyone paranoid and suspicious.

If I just came out of nowhere, no law enforcement uniform and start following you. You would have a problem with that and ask me "Why are you falling me?". That wouldn't sit well with you and you know it.
aisling-

Circleville, OH

#323 Jun 26, 2013
It would appear that Miss Jeantel didn't seem too worried about Trayvon getting into a fight. Could it be that it was nothing out of the ordinary?

"On the other hand, under Florida law Zimmerman is permitted to introduce evidence of Martin’s reputation in the community for violence and drug use, even though Zimmerman was not aware of this reputation at the time, as proof that it was Trayvon Martin, and not Zimmerman, who was the aggressor in the conflict.

There is one additional wrinkle that could potentially open the door for the admission of specific prior acts evidence of Martin. Even where such specific prior acts evidence is not generally permitted, as in the circumstances of the Zimmerman case, if one side of the legal dispute introduces positive reputation evidence to strengthen their case, the other side is generally allowed to introduce evidence of specific acts to undermine that reputation evidence. That is, if one side puts reputation into play, the other side is permitted to attack that reputation evidence with contrary evidence of specific prior acts. Under this exception, if the prosecution were to try to portray Trayvon Martin as having a peaceful and sober reputation in the community, the defense may then be able to introduce evidence of Martin’s specific acts of violence and drug use.

This exception is normally applied to witnesses at a trial, and it is unclear whether it would apply under Florida law to a decedent. I expect, however, that we’ll be able to tell which is the case by the prosecution’s conduct. If the prosecution describes Martin to the jury as peaceful and sober, it’s a safe bet that they are not afraid of having to face the defense introducing specific prior acts evidence. Conversely, if they refrain from describing Martin to the jury as peaceful and sober it is a safe bet that they are trying to avoid admission of Martin’s specific acts of violence and drug use."
http://lawofselfdefense.com/can-prosecution-k...

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#324 Jun 26, 2013
Roofis wit da Gold Toofis wrote:
<quoted text> You big babies sure are proud of your butt rape. Smdh das TERBUHL
selorna's been babbling about that lately, too.

Since: Dec 10

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#325 Jun 26, 2013
GrouchoMarxist wrote:
<quoted text>
Wow. I have to dumb this down for you?
OK,
WHITES are the "inferior" race in my question, as you just demonstrated is a monolithic non-white view.(That means most blacks believe it.)
Blacks constantly claim that they are "oppressed" by those "inferior" whites, so again, I say,
....I'm supposed to want to BE like that?
Oppressed,....by an "inferior" race?
(
What year was this? What black person or people is still saying that we are oppressed?

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#326 Jun 26, 2013
GrouchoMarxist wrote:
<quoted text>Like I said, someone you can't even name,
....yet you base your self-important "opinion" on what she said. A year ago.
lol.
Look, I'm doing OK in this debate with you all by myself,
... you don't need to help me like that.
She was a black female attorney on Anderson Cooper. It was the episode when his parents and their attorney was on there.....

I looking at the stuff I purchased from the mall. It's not that serious . Sheesh!

All I have to do is Google the SYG LAW.

GrouchoMarxist

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#328 Jun 26, 2013
MDJ2011 wrote:
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What year was this? What black person or people is still saying that we are oppressed?
lol....blacks whine about it EVERY day,....every WHERE. From the workplace to the grocery store to private swim clubs, from clubs with dress codes to colleges with academic standards, from voter ID to immigration laws, every single thing under the sun is said to be "designed by whites to hold blacks down".

YOU acting stupid asking "who say dat?" doesn't change the fact that everyone knows I'm right.

You want a few examples? Maybe you can "discredit" them by telling where they come from, or when they were posted....

"African Americans and American Indians or Native Americans are two of the major subordinate groups in America today. They face many forms of oppression from the dominant group and have many things in common when it comes to this oppression"
http://www.writework.com/essay/african-americ...

Deep, relentless, unending oppression of Black people has always been an indelible feature of American society, and it is today.
http://revcom.us/a/282/straight-talk-about-ob...

The systematic oppression of black Americans is deeply embedded in the fabric of US society.
http://www.fifthinternational.org/content/opp...

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Since: Mar 11

the nati Ohio

#329 Jun 26, 2013
zimmerboy.........a clear cut case of murder.
I'm glad to see he's plumping up for his cellmate

GrouchoMarxist

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#331 Jun 26, 2013
MDJ2011 wrote:
<quoted text>
She was a black female attorney on Anderson Cooper. It was the episode when his parents and their attorney was on there.....
I looking at the stuff I purchased from the mall. It's not that serious . Sheesh!
All I have to do is Google the SYG LAW.
Still no name,
...syg is irrelevant,
...and I already posted the self defense law.
I'd link you, but your hero tells me that would be a waste of time.
Anti-Fascism

United States

#332 Jun 26, 2013
MDJ2011 wrote:
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It's mere common sense. Afar? lol! Have you seen that neighborhood. He couldn't have been that far away.
And if one of my brothers were following you.
You would be comfortable with that?
Following someone when you're not law enforcement is normal to you?
That would make anyone paranoid and suspicious.
If I just came out of nowhere, no law enforcement uniform and start following you. You would have a problem with that and ask me "Why are you falling me?". That wouldn't sit well with you and you know it.
You're talking about what I might be *thinking.*

"Thinking" is separate from "choosing to put *thought* into *physical action* first."

Of course I'd be cautious of someone following me; I'd keep an eye on them and keep walking my way home, not turn around and attack them.

If you acknowledge that Trayvon attacked Zimmerman first then you've lost the entire debate right there. By implying that it's "logical" to 'whoop someones butt' merely for following in public basically says you just acknowledged it being "OKAY" that Trayvon attacked Zimmerman first without actual just cause.

Thus you're admitting, without even knowing it, that Zimmerman was justified in his actions of self-defense, as he did fear for his life while getting his nose (and back/side of his head) smashed into by Trayvon. Zimmerman had the clear physical injuries, by way of blunt force trauma, not Trayvon.

Zimmerman's word is: Trayvon attacked him first. If the prosecution cannot disprove this then I'd vote "not guilty," and I'd hope the jury does the same.

I want *very* good evidence before I vote "guilty" and thus send someone to prison for a very long time.

I've not seen that *very* good evidence yet.
aisling-

Circleville, OH

#333 Jun 26, 2013
*Nothing out of the ordinary and meaning was it not ordinary for Trayvon to get into fights. Depending on her answer, having a reputation for fighting wouldn't bode well as to who started the fight. Should the prosecution attempt to counter that to strengthen their case, that he was peaceful and sober? The door, very well, could open for the defense to enter into admission specific acts of Trayvon's.

Perhaps, that being why the attys wanted Trayvon's records sealed in that should they try to paint him as peaceful and sober, it would open the door for the defense to counter it.

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#335 Jun 26, 2013
GrouchoMarxist wrote:
<quoted text>lol....blacks whine about it EVERY day,....every WHERE. From the workplace to the grocery store to private swim clubs, from clubs with dress codes to colleges with academic standards, from voter ID to immigration laws, every single thing under the sun is said to be "designed by whites to hold blacks down".
YOU acting stupid asking "who say dat?" doesn't change the fact that everyone knows I'm right.
You want a few examples? Maybe you can "discredit" them by telling where they come from, or when they were posted....
"African Americans and American Indians or Native Americans are two of the major subordinate groups in America today. They face many forms of oppression from the dominant group and have many things in common when it comes to this oppression"
http://www.writework.com/essay/african-americ...
Deep, relentless, unending oppression of Black people has always been an indelible feature of American society, and it is today.
http://revcom.us/a/282/straight-talk-about-ob...
The systematic oppression of black Americans is deeply embedded in the fabric of US society.
http://www.fifthinternational.org/content/opp...
lol! Because I am black I'm acting stupid because I haven't heard black people saying that they were oppressed in years?

I don't even know anyone who has said that here.

Since: Dec 10

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#336 Jun 26, 2013
GrouchoMarxist wrote:
<quoted text>
Still no name,
...syg is irrelevant,
...and I already posted the self defense law.
I'd link you, but your hero tells me that would be a waste of time.
I think her name is Sunny Hostin. It's been a minute. But I think this is the episode that I'm speaking of.....

I'm tired of searching.

http://youtu.be/2geXL1byPtg

“I can't stand obscurity”

Level 8

Since: Mar 11

the nati Ohio

#337 Jun 26, 2013
Allen wrote:
<quoted text>These blacks will always be living in denial about Trayvon Martin....it's thier natural instinct to defend and make excuses for thier own kind.
you rednecks always live in denial and in trailers
Roofis wit da Gold Toofis

Lakeland, FL

#338 Jun 26, 2013
Allen wrote:
<quoted text>She sure is ugly, isn't she?
Yikes, she could make a fortune haunting houses. Can you picture where this mouth breathing beast could possibly work? Customer Service is out! Lol Smh I'm glad the whole world is finally getting a good look at blacks racism and savagery.

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