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#283 Oct 31, 2013
Punchojr wrote:
Even the Jesuits
The Book ‘Africans and Native Americans’ by Jack Forbes
“For example in 1519 it was said of the Brazilians ‘non sono neneri ne blanchi ma di colore di ulivo (that is they are not black or white but of olive color) but the same writer remarked that the Brazilian canoe-men he saw were ‘so black’ that they could have been taken for sailors on the sea of styx (In Hell).”[1]
The author continues his comments on the appearance of Natives in North America from the Jesuit letters,
“In 1524 the Carolina coast people were said to be ‘of dark color not much unlike the Ethiopians.”[2]
  
 
The terms negro and indios were used interchangeably to describe the natives in the journals of early missionaries who could not have possibly been referring to Africans,
  
 
“From 1549 through 1565 the letters of the Jesuit missionaries in Brazil usually addressed to colleagues in Portugal or Spain, frequently refers to the Americans as Negroes…In April of 1549 Manuel de Nobrega, the leader of the Jesuits, addressed a letter from Bahia to Simao Rodrigues in Lisbon in which he refers to the Portuguese in Brazil as living in sin because of their having ‘many negras’ and lots of children by the said ‘black’ women. Thus the Jesuit father called the American women living with Portuguese men ‘negras’, a term which according to Leite, could not have denoted people from Africa because in 1549 there were few or no African women in Bahia. Nonetheless, Nobrega uses the word indio…
  
‘When Africans are referred to in the Jesuit Letters they are always called negros da Guine (Blacks of Guinea) to distinguish them from negros de terra (Blacks of the land or Americans)[3]
  
 
“A very interesting letter is one prepared by ‘dos meninos do Colegio de Jesus da Baia, that is, by young Americans studying in the school: Diogo Topinamba, Peribira Mongeta, and Quantia. Although probably edited by a Jesuit, this may represent the first letter written by Americans in a European Language from Brazil. In it they refer to an American leader,’el Grillo’, as a negro and to other natives as negroes. We find for example ‘El Grillo, who is a negro very well known and feared among them’ and that el Grillo ‘es negro muy grave’. El Grillo was at the same time an Indi pagan and a friend of the Portuguese.”[4]
  
“In August 1552 Nobrega wrote from Bahia [South America] to Lisbon [Portugal] referring to the native peoples as negroes. In May 1554 Antonio Blazquez from Porto Seguro wrote to the Jesuits of Coimbra that:
  
Yo estoy en este Puerto Segro, y la vida que hago y en lo que me ocupo es esto: enseno la doctrina a los negros y negras.
That is he was preaching to the Americans, called negros. He also referred to the negros and los mamalucos des la tierra as pupils. The editor notes that by negros and negras he meant Indios e Indias.”[5]
  
The history as recorded by their own white hands bears witness that the Black People are the Indigenous and first Americans, American stemming from the intercourse of Vespucci and Columbus with Indigenous Blacks in Central America [Amaru]. The use above of ‘mamalucos’ to describe the negros which stems back to the Qara- Algonquian-Arabic word’ Mamluk’, also shows the Indigenous Moorish presence in the Americas. This history spanned from the first encounters of the Europeans with Our Ancestors to the Establishment of the United States of America and the Revolutionary War period.
Here's some more information:
Before Columbus: Black Explorers of the New World
http://rense.com/general43/before.htm
No ancient African skeletons found in the Americas = NO AFRICANS!
motts

UK

#284 Oct 31, 2013
trollslayer wrote:
<quoted text>
Well, Motts, these bastards will deflect it rather than denounce it. Here's a example from one of our trolls 'ae': "Oh stop there is racism in every country in the world. Look at all the Afronazis who hate Jews and white people in America! "
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it's like a Dad saying 'jimmy, wash your hands when ya' leave the rest room.' And Jimmy says 'oh Dad, a lotta' PPL. don't wash their hands.'
Yeah, RACISTS like these two TROLLS (BARROS and NON-AFRICAN AD want the German Nazi's to take responsibility for their actions, but they don't seem to think the Jews should do the same for their actions.

Talk about double standards. Shameful human beings.
motts

UK

#285 Oct 31, 2013
Ish Tov wrote:
<quoted text>
I am not a Jew, you halfwit.
You antisemitic wannabe nazi turd.
What do you think about Israel's treatment of the Ethiopians??

Are these actions right or wrong?
motts

UK

#286 Oct 31, 2013
Punchojr wrote:
Even the Jesuits
The Book ‘Africans and Native Americans’ by Jack Forbes
“For example in 1519 it was said of the Brazilians ‘non sono neneri ne blanchi ma di colore di ulivo (that is they are not black or white but of olive color) but the same writer remarked that the Brazilian canoe-men he saw were ‘so black’ that they could have been taken for sailors on the sea of styx (In Hell).”[1]
The author continues his comments on the appearance of Natives in North America from the Jesuit letters,
“In 1524 the Carolina coast people were said to be ‘of dark color not much unlike the Ethiopians.”[2]
  
 
The terms negro and indios were used interchangeably to describe the natives in the journals of early missionaries who could not have possibly been referring to Africans,
  
 
“From 1549 through 1565 the letters of the Jesuit missionaries in Brazil usually addressed to colleagues in Portugal or Spain, frequently refers to the Americans as Negroes…In April of 1549 Manuel de Nobrega, the leader of the Jesuits, addressed a letter from Bahia to Simao Rodrigues in Lisbon in which he refers to the Portuguese in Brazil as living in sin because of their having ‘many negras’ and lots of children by the said ‘black’ women. Thus the Jesuit father called the American women living with Portuguese men ‘negras’, a term which according to Leite, could not have denoted people from Africa because in 1549 there were few or no African women in Bahia. Nonetheless, Nobrega uses the word indio…
  
‘When Africans are referred to in the Jesuit Letters they are always called negros da Guine (Blacks of Guinea) to distinguish them from negros de terra (Blacks of the land or Americans)[3]
  
 
“A very interesting letter is one prepared by ‘dos meninos do Colegio de Jesus da Baia, that is, by young Americans studying in the school: Diogo Topinamba, Peribira Mongeta, and Quantia. Although probably edited by a Jesuit, this may represent the first letter written by Americans in a European Language from Brazil. In it they refer to an American leader,’el Grillo’, as a negro and to other natives as negroes. We find for example ‘El Grillo, who is a negro very well known and feared among them’ and that el Grillo ‘es negro muy grave’. El Grillo was at the same time an Indi pagan and a friend of the Portuguese.”[4]
  
“In August 1552 Nobrega wrote from Bahia [South America] to Lisbon [Portugal] referring to the native peoples as negroes. In May 1554 Antonio Blazquez from Porto Seguro wrote to the Jesuits of Coimbra that:
  
Yo estoy en este Puerto Segro, y la vida que hago y en lo que me ocupo es esto: enseno la doctrina a los negros y negras.
That is he was preaching to the Americans, called negros. He also referred to the negros and los mamalucos des la tierra as pupils. The editor notes that by negros and negras he meant Indios e Indias.”[5]
  
The history as recorded by their own white hands bears witness that the Black People are the Indigenous and first Americans, American stemming from the intercourse of Vespucci and Columbus with Indigenous Blacks in Central America [Amaru]. The use above of ‘mamalucos’ to describe the negros which stems back to the Qara- Algonquian-Arabic word’ Mamluk’, also shows the Indigenous Moorish presence in the Americas. This history spanned from the first encounters of the Europeans with Our Ancestors to the Establishment of the United States of America and the Revolutionary War period.
Here's some more information:
Before Columbus: Black Explorers of the New World
http://rense.com/general43/before.htm
Good work. Confirmation of what we always have known. Those FRAUDS, the SPANISH would claim to have discovered Mars if it was possible LOL!

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#287 Oct 31, 2013
Punchojr wrote:
Even the Jesuits
The Book ‘Africans and Native Americans’ by Jack Forbes
“For example in 1519 it was said of the Brazilians ‘non sono neneri ne blanchi ma di colore di ulivo (that is they are not black or white but of olive color) but the same writer remarked that the Brazilian canoe-men he saw were ‘so black’ that they could have been taken for sailors on the sea of styx (In Hell).”[1]
The author continues his comments on the appearance of Natives in North America from the Jesuit letters,
“In 1524 the Carolina coast people were said to be ‘of dark color not much unlike the Ethiopians.”[2]

The terms negro and indios were used interchangeably to describe the natives in the journals of early missionaries who could not have possibly been referring to Africans,
  
 
“From 1549 through 1565 the letters of the Jesuit missionaries in Brazil usually addressed to colleagues in Portugal or Spain, frequently refers to the Americans as Negroes…In April of 1549 Manuel de Nobrega, the leader of the Jesuits, addressed a letter from Bahia to Simao Rodrigues in Lisbon in which he refers to the Portuguese in Brazil as living in sin because of their having ‘many negras’ and lots of children by the said ‘black’ women. Thus the Jesuit father called the American women living with Portuguese men ‘negras’, a term which according to Leite, could not have denoted people from Africa because in 1549 there were few or no African women in Bahia. Nonetheless, Nobrega uses the word indio…
  
‘When Africans are referred to in the Jesuit Letters they are always called negros da Guine (Blacks of Guinea) to distinguish them from negros de terra (Blacks of the land or Americans)[3]
  
 
“A very interesting letter is one prepared by ‘dos meninos do Colegio de Jesus da Baia, that is, by young Americans studying in the school: Diogo Topinamba, Peribira Mongeta, and Quantia. Although probably edited by a Jesuit, this may represent the first letter written by Americans in a European Language from Brazil. In it they refer to an American leader,’el Grillo’, as a negro and to other natives as negroes. We find for example ‘El Grillo, who is a negro very well known and feared among them’ and that el Grillo ‘es negro muy grave’. El Grillo was at the same time an Indi pagan and a friend of the Portuguese.”[4]
  
“In August 1552 Nobrega wrote from Bahia [South America] to Lisbon [Portugal] referring to the native peoples as negroes. In May 1554 Antonio Blazquez from Porto Seguro wrote to the Jesuits of Coimbra that:
  
Yo estoy en este Puerto Segro, y la vida que hago y en lo que me ocupo es esto: enseno la doctrina a los negros y negras.
That is he was preaching to the Americans, called negros. He also referred to the negros and los mamalucos des la tierra as pupils. The editor notes that by negros and negras he meant Indios e Indias.”[5]
  
The history as recorded by their own white hands bears witness that the Black People are the Indigenous and first Americans, American stemming from the intercourse of Vespucci and Columbus with Indigenous Blacks in Central America [Amaru]. The use above of ‘mamalucos’ to describe the negros which stems back to the Qara- Algonquian-Arabic word’ Mamluk’, also shows the Indigenous Moorish presence in the Americas. This history spanned from the first encounters of the Europeans with Our Ancestors to the Establishment of the United States of America and the Revolutionary War period.
Here's some more information:
Before Columbus: Black Explorers of the New World
http://rense.com/general43/before.htm
Lying racist.

I've lived among Native peoples in the tropics, and they are quite dark. That doesn't mean their African.

Do you Afronazis think Africans have a monopoly on melanin?

You rutting fool.

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Since: May 11

United States

#288 Oct 31, 2013
Moors Saxon and so on where Black

http://www.lipstickalley.com/showthread.php...

Level 2

Since: May 11

United States

#289 Oct 31, 2013
Punchojr wrote:
Moors Saxon and so on where Black
http://www.lipstickalley.com/showthread.php...
A MUST SEE. COPY PIC URL AND PASTE THEM FOR THESE TROLLS

Level 2

Since: May 11

United States

#290 Oct 31, 2013
Punchojr wrote:
Moors Saxon and so on where Black
http://www.lipstickalley.com/showthread.php...
Mott n Trollslayer it so many pieces they can't refute on the site

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#291 Oct 31, 2013
motts wrote:
<quoted text>
What do you think about Israel's treatment of the Ethiopians??
Are these actions right or wrong?
Compared to any Arab country, Israel is a human rights utopia.

Shall we list the faults of every country? Or just Israel?

You antisemitic Nazi scum.

You talk about the genocidal fakeass Palestinazis before complaining about the Jews, if it's really human rights you're worried about.

But, no, all you're interested in is more anti-Jewish crap.

You are subhuman filth who does not deserve to be alive on this planet.

Boy.

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#292 Oct 31, 2013
motts wrote:
<quoted text>
Yeah, RACISTS like these two TROLLS (BARROS and NON-AFRICAN AD want the German Nazi's to take responsibility for their actions, but they don't seem to think the Jews should do the same for their actions.
Talk about double standards. Shameful human beings.
Jews have committed no genocide, boy. They have not attempted to take over the world or exterminate anyone.

Why don't you hold the Arabonazis accountable for their actions, boy?

You filthy antisemitic piece of $hit.

You better take responsibility for your antisemitism, boy. You WILL be held to account. We'll see to that.

Level 2

Since: May 11

El Monte, CA

#294 Oct 31, 2013
motts

UK

#295 Oct 31, 2013
Ish Tov wrote:
<quoted text>
Compared to any Arab country, Israel is a human rights utopia.
Shall we list the faults of every country? Or just Israel?
You antisemitic Nazi scum.
You talk about the genocidal fakeass Palestinazis before complaining about the Jews, if it's really human rights you're worried about.
But, no, all you're interested in is more anti-Jewish crap.
You are subhuman filth who does not deserve to be alive on this planet.
Boy.
God decides who lives and who does not deserve to live, so calm down..

I never asked you to compare anything, i asked you a simple question, and yes other countries have committed far worse atrocities such as the British to the Irish and Africans, and muslims in India. Now I ask you a simple question again:

What do you think of the Jews treatment of Ethiopians? Is it wrong or justified?
trollslayer

Hickory Hills, IL

#296 Oct 31, 2013
Punchojr wrote:
Even the Jesuits
The Book ‘Africans and Native Americans’ by Jack Forbes
“For example in 1519 it was said of the Brazilians ‘non sono neneri ne blanchi ma di colore di ulivo (that is they are not black or white but of olive color) but the same writer remarked that the Brazilian canoe-men he saw were ‘so black’ that they could have been taken for sailors on the sea of styx (In Hell).”[1]
The author continues his comments on the appearance of Natives in North America from the Jesuit letters,
“In 1524 the Carolina coast people were said to be ‘of dark color not much unlike the Ethiopians.”[2]
  
 
The terms negro and indios were used interchangeably to describe the natives in the journals of early missionaries who could not have possibly been referring to Africans,
  
 
“From 1549 through 1565 the letters of the Jesuit missionaries in Brazil usually addressed to colleagues in Portugal or Spain, frequently refers to the Americans as Negroes…In April of 1549 Manuel de Nobrega, the leader of the Jesuits, addressed a letter from Bahia to Simao Rodrigues in Lisbon in which he refers to the Portuguese in Brazil as living in sin because of their having ‘many negras’ and lots of children by the said ‘black’ women. Thus the Jesuit father called the American women living with Portuguese men ‘negras’, a term which according to Leite, could not have denoted people from Africa because in 1549 there were few or no African women in Bahia. Nonetheless, Nobrega uses the word indio…
  
‘When Africans are referred to in the Jesuit Letters they are always called negros da Guine (Blacks of Guinea) to distinguish them from negros de terra (Blacks of the land or Americans)[3]
  
 
“A very interesting letter is one prepared by ‘dos meninos do Colegio de Jesus da Baia, that is, by young Americans studying in the school: Diogo Topinamba, Peribira Mongeta, and Quantia. Although probably edited by a Jesuit, this may represent the first letter written by Americans in a European Language from Brazil. In it they refer to an American leader,’el Grillo’, as a negro and to other natives as negroes. We find for example ‘El Grillo, who is a negro very well known and feared among them’ and that el Grillo ‘es negro muy grave’. El Grillo was at the same time an Indi pagan and a friend of the Portuguese.”[4]
  
“In August 1552 Nobrega wrote from Bahia [South America] to Lisbon [Portugal] referring to the native peoples as negroes. In May 1554 Antonio Blazquez from Porto Seguro wrote to the Jesuits of Coimbra that:
  
Yo estoy en este Puerto Segro, y la vida que hago y en lo que me ocupo es esto: enseno la doctrina a los negros y negras.
That is he was preaching to the Americans, called negros. He also referred to the negros and los mamalucos des la tierra as pupils. The editor notes that by negros and negras he meant Indios e Indias.”[5]
  
The history as recorded by their own white hands bears witness that the Black People are the Indigenous and first Americans, American stemming from the intercourse of Vespucci and Columbus with Indigenous Blacks in Central America [Amaru]. The use above of ‘mamalucos’ to describe the negros which stems back to the Qara- Algonquian-Arabic word’ Mamluk’, also shows the Indigenous Moorish presence in the Americas. This history spanned from the first encounters of the Europeans with Our Ancestors to the Establishment of the United States of America and the Revolutionary War period.
Here's some more information:
Before Columbus: Black Explorers of the New World
http://rense.com/general43/before.htm
Great job Punch. You've developed into one of our more astute posters here. You've called upon both authority and a LINK to support your assertions
trollslayer

Hickory Hills, IL

#297 Oct 31, 2013
motts wrote:
<quoted text>
Yeah, RACISTS like these two TROLLS (BARROS and NON-AFRICAN AD want the German Nazi's to take responsibility for their actions, but they don't seem to think the Jews should do the same for their actions.
Talk about double standards. Shameful human beings.
Excellent points as usual. " NON-AFRICAN Ae" is accurate ...I like it.

The thing is when you or I point the racism, then we become the so-called "bad guys". It's like trying to make the whistle blowers, responsible for the crime rather than the actual criminals.
trollslayer

Hickory Hills, IL

#298 Oct 31, 2013
Ish Tov wrote:
<quoted text>
Lying racist.
I've lived among Native peoples in the tropics, and they are quite dark. That doesn't mean their African.
Do you Afronazis think Africans have a monopoly on melanin?
You rutting fool.
Punch LINKED attribution...you bring meltdowns instead of LINKS
trollslayer

Hickory Hills, IL

#299 Oct 31, 2013
Punchojr wrote:
Moors Saxon and so on where Black
http://www.lipstickalley.com/showthread.php ...
Punchojr wrote:
<quoted text>A MUST SEE. COPY PIC URL AND PASTE THEM FOR THESE TROLLS
great job of EXPOSING THE TRUTH. Your research skills have become quite excellent
trollslayer

Hickory Hills, IL

#300 Oct 31, 2013
motts wrote:
<quoted text>
What do you think about Israel's treatment of the Ethiopians??
Are these actions right or wrong?
Ish Tov wrote:
<quoted text>
Compared to any Arab country, Israel is a human rights utopia.
lets re-phrase the question.....

"What do you think about Israel's treatment of the Ethiopians??
Are these actions right or wrong?"
trollslayer

Hickory Hills, IL

#301 Oct 31, 2013
motts wrote:
<quoted text>
God decides who lives and who does not deserve to live, so calm down..
I never asked you to compare anything, i asked you a simple question, and yes other countries have committed far worse atrocities such as the British to the Irish and Africans, and muslims in India. Now I ask you a simple question again:

What do you think of the Jews treatment of Ethiopians? Is it wrong or justified?
....and it's a great question....that a answer and NOT more deflection.

____

Daddy tells his daughter, "I don't want you having sex until ur married"....the daughter says , "but all the girls are having sex b4 marriage."
trollslayer

Hickory Hills, IL

#302 Oct 31, 2013
Is Ben Cohen a racist?????

http://www.google.com/url...

___

Is Shimon Sigali racist or a "afro-"nazi"?

&fe ature=player_detailpage

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Here ya' go......IS Ethiopian Jew, Shay Sium a racist????

http://www.google.com/url...

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#303 Nov 1, 2013
trollslayer wrote:
motts wrote:
<quoted text>
What do you think about Israel's treatment of the Ethiopians??
Are these actions right or wrong?
<quoted text>
lets re-phrase the question.....
"What do you think about Israel's treatment of the Ethiopians??
Are these actions right or wrong?"
As wrong as the Hamas charter calling for the elimination of all Jews? As wrong as the Arabonazi people in crowds in the street chanting “Death to the Jews”? As wrong as all you Afronazis in here claiming the Jews aren't Jews?

Take your antisemitic provocations and shove 'em deep, boy.

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