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Barros Serrano-Bey

Reserve, NM

#219 Jan 31, 2013
LOL at the political bullshit in here inpinging on discussions of the relationships of groups of people.

In fact, L3 northeast Africans gave rise to Eurasians, who are a subset of them. So the northeast Africans are more closely related to Eurasians than to other Africans, unless they're mixed with them.

That's just a geneological fact nobody can deny.

For political purposes you can call everyone in Africa “black” or “African” or whatever, but the scientific reality is that the northeasterners are more closely related to Eurasians.

Mideasterners are Eurasians and most closely related to Europeans. J and I are sister clades.
Phoenix

Humble, TX

#220 Jan 31, 2013
obamahamza08 wrote:
<quoted text>middle east is term created by british crackers to name this area
middle east belong to africa
Some say the area is Asia not Africa.
muminfreedomfigh ta

United States

#221 Jan 31, 2013
Abdurratln wrote:
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I hate israel because it is an illegal white racist settler regime.
White oppressors who dont believe in God thier founders were atheist. Religion aint got nothing to do with it.
muminfreedomfigh ta

United States

#222 Jan 31, 2013
Anonymous wrote:
<quoted text> Excellent post. I am bothered by the worthless animals on this forum like LivinginAmerica, Black American Prince making disgusting claims that Ethiopians are white or caucasian and trying to start a Rwanda style conflict between Africans. These animals infuriate me.
We got no shortage of enemies. Crackas and thier lackeys are a constant source of irritation.

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#223 Jan 31, 2013
Barros Serrano-Bey wrote:
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You're full of crap. The Ashkenazim are mostly from Judah, also Benjamin and Levi. Given their history it's a miracle they still exist as an ethnic group. But they are real Jews.
The Lemba obviously absorbed Jewish refugees. They are not originally Hebrews, they absorbed some Hebrews.
You lying racist. Israel was not black. The Hebrews then as now were Semitic Mideasterners, Eurasians. The Falasha in fact are not Hebrews, they are converts; their DNA proves this.
Japheth, Caucasus caves... you're full of NOI shit, boy. You spew this racism in my presence and you'll know the meaning of pain.
Shut your goddam mouth. Racists are not to be tolerated, here or anywhere. Got that, boy?
There are plenty of genealogy examples of Ancient Israel mixing with Hamites including Canaanites, Mizraim, and Cushites in the Torah. Judah was a half Sematic and Hamatic tribe since their mother side was a Canaanite. Joseph branch were black (Ephraim and Manassah), Moses children were of Cushite blood, and most of Israel had children with Hamitic people whom were of the same skin color. Nevermind the fact Noah's himself was black proven by DNA showing everyone coming from a black African.

Abraham came from Ur Babylon where Nimrod a black Cushite founded and ruled. Cushites who were still living there even when Ham and his family went into Africa. Abraham who was a black Shemite who was living among black Hamites, and his descendants mixed with them heavily. Now that new finding show Ancient Egypt are of Negro abstract through King Tut and Ramesses iii Eb1a1, we can be sure that Israel look no different than any black from Africa after mixing with them so much. If indeed there were whites who had blood ties to Jacob, it would be thanks their black ancestors. Lemba had more Jewish blood, which meant physically they are closer to how the ancient Jews would have looked. White Jews were not part of the ancient Torah Hebrews, they would come later from mixing with white converts, although some through having black ancestry would have true Jewish blood. A Rabbi proclaim that if a Jews does not have black blood he is not a Jew. It seem like we know the Torah more than you who claim to be a Jew.
Lucifer _ The HATEFUL One

Jacksonville, FL

#224 Jan 31, 2013
Anonymous wrote:
<quoted text> AshkeNAZI Jews are not semites
So, who are the true Jews?

“Yes WE Can! Yes we Will!”

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Baltimore, Md.

#225 Feb 1, 2013
LEMBAS

We're supposed to be talking about the Ethiopian Jewish women subjected to involuntary birth control. But since thw Lemba's have been mentioned, I will mention what I've at least read or heard.

1. There apparently were DNA tests on the Lembas which indicated their Jewish origins. That they look like black Bantu wouldn't make them less or more Jewish on that score than Jews who look like Arabs or white Europeans

2, Scholars apparently noted that there were SEMITIC words in their otherwise Bantu language,semitic influences not found in other Bantu languages.
3. Lembas were the only Bantu group that adhered to Jewish practices such as the avoidance of pork in their diets.

Frankly, I don't think color has much to do with what makes one Jewish.
Barros Serrano

Reserve, NM

#226 Feb 1, 2013
Melody88 wrote:
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There are plenty of genealogy examples of Ancient Israel mixing with Hamites including Canaanites, Mizraim, and Cushites in the Torah. Judah was a half Sematic and Hamatic tribe since their mother side was a Canaanite. Joseph branch were black (Ephraim and Manassah), Moses children were of Cushite blood, and most of Israel had children with Hamitic people whom were of the same skin color. Nevermind the fact Noah's himself was black proven by DNA showing everyone coming from a black African.
Abraham came from Ur Babylon where Nimrod a black Cushite founded and ruled. Cushites who were still living there even when Ham and his family went into Africa. Abraham who was a black Shemite who was living among black Hamites, and his descendants mixed with them heavily. Now that new finding show Ancient Egypt are of Negro abstract through King Tut and Ramesses iii Eb1a1, we can be sure that Israel look no different than any black from Africa after mixing with them so much. If indeed there were whites who had blood ties to Jacob, it would be thanks their black ancestors. Lemba had more Jewish blood, which meant physically they are closer to how the ancient Jews would have looked. White Jews were not part of the ancient Torah Hebrews, they would come later from mixing with white converts, although some through having black ancestry would have true Jewish blood. A Rabbi proclaim that if a Jews does not have black blood he is not a Jew. It seem like we know the Torah more than you who claim to be a Jew.
Canaanites were not black. You are correct, however, that there were black Africans who mixed with Hebrews. Moses' wife was one.

No, Lemba are not close to how ancient Jews would look. You don't understand genetics. Lemba don't have more Hebrew DNA than the Ashkenazim... more Cohanim gene, perhaps.

I am not a Jew. But I know anthropology, and I know who the Mideasterners were: Phoenicians, Canaanites, Hebrews, Aramaeans, etc... and they were not black. Like I've said, they did and do have black admixture, as do Europeans.

Modern Ashenazim mostly do not look like the Europeans among whom they lived... they look Mideastern. Olive skin, wavy dark thick hair, big nose, etc. They are not black, yet they are Hebrews.

I acknowledge and respect any black ancestry or history or contribution whatsoever, if it is REAL! But this attempt to claim that the Hebrews were black, and modern Jews are not real, is culture genocide. I think the Jews have been abused enough without black people now trying to deny them their identity!
Barros Serrano

Reserve, NM

#227 Feb 1, 2013
Savant wrote:
LEMBAS
We're supposed to be talking about the Ethiopian Jewish women subjected to involuntary birth control. But since thw Lemba's have been mentioned, I will mention what I've at least read or heard.
1. There apparently were DNA tests on the Lembas which indicated their Jewish origins. That they look like black Bantu wouldn't make them less or more Jewish on that score than Jews who look like Arabs or white Europeans
2, Scholars apparently noted that there were SEMITIC words in their otherwise Bantu language,semitic influences not found in other Bantu languages.
3. Lembas were the only Bantu group that adhered to Jewish practices such as the avoidance of pork in their diets.
Frankly, I don't think color has much to do with what makes one Jewish.
Israel has instituted policy in giving birth control to the black Jews, that they must be absolutely certain the woman understands what is going on, etc. Israel has solved the problem. Now whether someone will go on trial for this I don't know, but at least whatever was being done inappropriately has been stopped.

The Lemba obviously absorbed Hebrew migrants/refugees. They are by origin a Bantu people, obviously.

This is a touchy issue. Israel is searching for "lost tribes", and now with genome analysis to use, they are finding some. Ironically, and strangely, some believe that one such people who descend from Hebrews are the Pushtun! That means the Taliban! Of course they're mixed also with Aryans (Pushtun is an Aryan language). But... it could get very strange. Other peoples have been found on the India-Burma border with Hebrew DNA.

The Jews are attempting to get their scattered people back together. There is controversy at every turn, not the least of which the notion that Israel is a "Jewish state" yet a democracy...

Generally such ethnocentricity is not good, but then the Jews are a special case, anyone has to admit, given their history.

As for this issue, I can only say I am happy that Israel has ended the abusive practice. Of course I would point out that the Israeli system is like that... they are scrupulous about being legal and moral. The Israeli Supreme Court half the time is going after the IDF! It is a free democratic country.

Ok, now let the antisemitism resume!(I don't mean from you, of course.)
Anonymous

Ashburn, VA

#228 Feb 1, 2013
Barros Serrano wrote:
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Canaanites were not black. You are correct, however, that there were black Africans who mixed with Hebrews. Moses' wife was one.
No, Lemba are not close to how ancient Jews would look. You don't understand genetics. Lemba don't have more Hebrew DNA than the Ashkenazim... more Cohanim gene, perhaps.
I am not a Jew. But I know anthropology, and I know who the Mideasterners were: Phoenicians, Canaanites, Hebrews, Aramaeans, etc... and they were not black. Like I've said, they did and do have black admixture, as do Europeans.
Modern Ashenazim mostly do not look like the Europeans among whom they lived... they look Mideastern. Olive skin, wavy dark thick hair, big nose, etc. They are not black, yet they are Hebrews.
I acknowledge and respect any black ancestry or history or contribution whatsoever, if it is REAL! But this attempt to claim that the Hebrews were black, and modern Jews are not real, is culture genocide. I think the Jews have been abused enough without black people now trying to deny them their identity!
ashkenazi are part european turkic.

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#229 Feb 1, 2013
Anonymous wrote:
<quoted text> ashkenazi are part european turkic.
YES YOU ARE RIGHT

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