Why has there been a rise in Black athiesm?

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“Take the kinks out ya mind”

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and not your hair

#1 Aug 3, 2013
I'm not judging anyone's decision to do so, but wondering why?

“Take the kinks out ya mind”

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and not your hair

#2 Aug 3, 2013
The Enemy Within

Columbia, MD

#3 Aug 3, 2013
Because anyone that has gone to a church all their lives can clearly see that the most manipulative lying types of people are also the ones held in high esteem in churches. They have no guilty conscience and can be maniacal sometimes. There's a way to see who is really good and who joins a church for social status, to belong, to find pity, to search for a mate, to die with an unearned reputation of being heavenly...

Good people do good things because it's simply good to do, Bad people do good because of fear, because they've been coaxed with personal gains (not including personal growth), because someone is watching <---99% of Christians.

I know to not trust a person as soon as they profess to be a christian because they are certain to be plotting to do something deceitful to get somewhere they want to be or something they believe they DESERVE.

“Jesus loves you all!”

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#4 Aug 3, 2013
brownskin_beauty wrote:
I'm not judging anyone's decision to do so, but wondering why?
I believe that were always some black atheists, but they felt compelled to keep it hidden.
Skiff Izlaam

Athens, GA

#5 Aug 3, 2013
Prolly because Jesus hasn't returned, yet.
EARTH

Memphis, TN

#6 Aug 3, 2013
BECUASE THEIR WAKING UP TO REALIZE, THEIR ENSLAVED ANCESTORS WERE GIVEN THAT DAMN BOOK BY THEIR ENSLAVERS..ALWAYS HAS BEEN COMMON SENSE, BUT IF MAMA SAID, THEN IT MUST BE TRUE. RIDICULOUS. AS IVE SAID HERE BEFORE, 'IVE RAPED YOUR MOTHERS, SISTERS, AND WIVES, HUNG YOUR BROTHERS FATHERS, AND HUSBANDS, BUT HERE'S A BOOK THAT WILL HELP YOU, TRUST ME, LIVE BY IT'. ABSOLUTELY INSANE. THAT'S WHY WHITES 'RULE', THEY MAKE ALL THE 'RULES' AND BLACKS FOLLOW WHATEVER THEY SAY.

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#7 Aug 3, 2013
I don't know about atheists, but agnostics might be closer to the truth as stated by the poster "Earth." It's obvious that organized religion is a tool of manipulation to control the masses, not just blacks either. When church attendance and tithing fell off within the Catholic Church, they devised the concept of hell to frighten the people into coming back to church. By using the literal description of Ghenna (hell) a burning pit in Jerusalem that deceased bodies were thrown into and to eliminate disease, the fire was kept burning continuously they've frighten many people. When you discover these things, you start to question and look into other things and you realize you've been had.
London

Columbus, OH

#8 Aug 3, 2013
Good people do good because it's simply the right thing to do. In general, good people don't even think about doing wrong as part of their lifestyle..although they can do wrong but it wasn't motivated with the factor of doing wrong. It was just a poor decision and all humans make poor decisions. The biggest difference between good people and bad people is selfishness. Good people are not selfish..however, good people do have self interest.

This is also why morals can not be taught. Habits can be taught..but morals can not. Morals are innate to the individual. Some people have innately bad morals and some people have innately good morals.

Those with innately bad morals sometime want to have good morals. They can then be a staunch supporter of good..but then there are those who have bad morals and try to convince the rest of us that we are just as bad and selfish as they are.
The Enemy Within

Columbia, MD

#9 Aug 3, 2013
London wrote:
Good people do good because it's simply the right thing to do. In general, good people don't even think about doing wrong as part of their lifestyle..although they can do wrong but it wasn't motivated with the factor of doing wrong. It was just a poor decision and all humans make poor decisions. The biggest difference between good people and bad people is selfishness. Good people are not selfish..however, good people do have self interest.
This is also why morals can not be taught. Habits can be taught..but morals can not. Morals are innate to the individual. Some people have innately bad morals and some people have innately good morals.
Those with innately bad morals sometime want to have good morals. They can then be a staunch supporter of good..but then there are those who have bad morals and try to convince the rest of us that we are just as bad and selfish as they are.
You sound like you have a complicated mind... I'm sure.
Bad people do good only out of fear, self gain or because they are being watched...

Otherwise they are going to do what ever they can to meet an end.
The Enemy Within

Columbia, MD

#10 Aug 3, 2013
a selfish end*

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#11 Aug 3, 2013
I would probably consider myself more of an agnostic atheist.

“What do the stars say......”

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...explore outside the milkway

#12 Aug 3, 2013
There is a God, because if there wasn't then we wouldn't have the power to create.

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#14 Aug 3, 2013
London wrote:
Good people do good because it's simply the right thing to do. In general, good people don't even think about doing wrong as part of their lifestyle..although they can do wrong but it wasn't motivated with the factor of doing wrong. It was just a poor decision and all humans make poor decisions. The biggest difference between good people and bad people is selfishness. Good people are not selfish..however, good people do have self interest.
This is also why morals can not be taught. Habits can be taught..but morals can not. Morals are innate to the individual. Some people have innately bad morals and some people have innately good morals.
Those with innately bad morals sometime want to have good morals. They can then be a staunch supporter of good..but then there are those who have bad morals and try to convince the rest of us that we are just as bad and selfish as they are.
This is an excellent and insightful posts. Brilliant, actually.
London

Columbus, OH

#15 Aug 3, 2013
Sunobia wrote:
<quoted text>This is an excellent and insightful posts. Brilliant, actually.
Thanks Sunobia.
London

Columbus, OH

#16 Aug 3, 2013
The Enemy Within wrote:
<quoted text>
You sound like you have a complicated mind... I'm sure.
Bad people do good only out of fear, self gain or because they are being watched...
Otherwise they are going to do what ever they can to meet an end.
I concur. I just believe people with bad morals do not believe in self interest. They seem to have no concept of it.
EARTH

Memphis, TN

#17 Aug 4, 2013
Sunobia wrote:
I don't know about atheists, but agnostics might be closer to the truth as stated by the poster "Earth." It's obvious that organized religion is a tool of manipulation to control the masses, not just blacks either. When church attendance and tithing fell off within the Catholic Church, they devised the concept of hell to frighten the people into coming back to church. By using the literal description of Ghenna (hell) a burning pit in Jerusalem that deceased bodies were thrown into and to eliminate disease, the fire was kept burning continuously they've frighten many people. When you discover these things, you start to question and look into other things and you realize you've been had.
THAT IS TRUE, NOT JUST BLACKS. WHITE PEOPLE HAVE NO PROBLEM SACRIFICING THEIR OWN. AND THERE ARE MANY SO CALLED CHRISTIANS. THE TITHING, OH YES. I'VE ALWAYS SAID, STOP GIVING THE MINISTER YOUR MONEY AND SEE HOW LONG HE STAYS.

“All Because You Said It...”

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#19 Aug 4, 2013
brownskin_beauty wrote:
I'm not judging anyone's decision to do so, but wondering why?
I was personally raised a christian through my fathers side. I was baptized a christian at the young age of 15. After my parents divorced my mother converted to Jehovah's witness like the majority of her sibling's already practiced. I could never really grasp the concept of christian beliefs because it just contains to much ill feelings of deceit and uneasiness to my spiritual being so my unconscious attentiveness would spit it out. Some blacks most likely seek out atheism because they may have simply not made any attempt to study different religious beliefs or found anything that conformed to their spiritual well being. Something that relates to the state of turmoil that actually really makes any sense to them. Why things of the world are truly the way they are. An explanation why they have embodied such a ignorant, cruel and plagued world. All I can say is keep searching and you will surely find the correct answer and it will start with you. If you have to force yourself to study a religion then it was not your religion to start with. It will come to you like a intriguing book you can't put down or like a movie you simply can't shut off. You will not be looking to find hate but simply searching for truth.
Cee Gawd

Fremont, CA

#20 Aug 4, 2013
Carmiana wrote:
There is a God, because if there wasn't then we wouldn't have the power to create.
Although I believe in a higher power, this is one of the most ridiculous reasons I've ever heard..
EARTH

Memphis, TN

#21 Aug 4, 2013
Sunobia wrote:
<quoted text>This is an excellent and insightful posts. Brilliant, actually.
SELFISH--I MUST LOVE AND TAKE CARE OF MYSELF FIRST IN ORDER TO DO IT FOR ANYONE ELSE. I AM FIRST.
SELFLESS--I STICK NEEDLES IN MY ARM FULL OF NARCOTICS, BUT I LOVE MY NEIGHBOR. REALLY? CLEARLY YOU DON'T LOVE YOURSELF SO HOW CAN YOU POSSIBLY LOVE ANOTHER.
MS/MR DOESN'T HAVE A SELFISH BONE IN HER/HIS BODY, WILL GIVE YOU THE SHIRT OF THEIR BACK. REALLY? SO YOU'LL BE COLD SO I CAN BE WARM..LOL..BE CAREFUL OF PEOPLE LIKE THAT. YOUR TURN WILL COME WITH THEM FOR SURE, AND IT WON'T BE A SHIRT. LOL
IF YOU DON'T HAVE IT FOR YOUSELF FIRST, YOU CAN'T GIVE IT TO ANYONE. YOU HAVE TO PUT YOURSELF FIRST. LIKE THE INSTRUCTIONS THEY GIVE BEFORE A FLIGHT, PUT YOUR MASK ON FIRST SO YOU CAN THEN HELP OTHERS.

“Shine Bright Like...”

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#22 Aug 4, 2013
I'll be the first to admit that the act of "religion" has turned a lot of people away from God. He doesn't want us to be religious, He wants us to know Him.

I'm going to say this as plainly as I can. "Religion" is all apart of Satan's plan. The Evil one is smarter than we give him credit for.

Do you guys thinks he's been sitting around twiddling his thumbs all these years, waiting on Jesus to condemn him?

The devil is real, people. But so is Jesus.

I was born and raised in the Southern Baptist Church. I hated it too. Until Jesus revealed Himself to me in my life. I was bitter, hateful, spiteful, and then some until He changed me.

A lot of this stuff is fake. But some of it is real.

It's not a fairy tale, all you have to do is ask Jesus to reveal Himself to you, and He will.

Things don't happen on our time or by our plan. But if you really want to know the one true God who is AMAZZING! He's simply AMAZING!! He loves each and every one of us, and HE WILL GIVE YOU ANSWERS!!

Such a gentle spirit, and His perspective is light years beyond ours. He's not this big man in the sky, who's out to get us for our sins. Christ paid for our sins on the Christ, He's just waiting on us to accept Him and RECEIVE IT!!

According to the New Covenant, He is with us! You know how you just KNOW something in your heart, like really know?? As sure as you know your name? That's how He communicates with us, and when He's around, it's like your favorite thing time a million. And more.

Get to know God. He's not what the Evil one want you to believe. This world is corrupt, and if you believe everything you see and hear, then you're in tune with the corruptness.

Just ask Jesus to reveal Himself to you, all you doubters and backsliders. And He will :)

If anybody is struggling, feel free to ask me for my email address.

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