Black Men Do Owe More To Black Women'...

Black Men Do Owe More To Black Women's Causes

There are 32 comments on the WTLC-AM Indianapolis story from Jul 24, 2014, titled Black Men Do Owe More To Black Women's Causes. In it, WTLC-AM Indianapolis reports that:

Regardless of how one feels about the stance For Harriet founder Kimberly Foster takes in her essay, "Why I Will Not March For Eric Garner ," it's more than evident it comes from a place of frustration.

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Sadbuttrue

Falls Church, VA

#1 Jul 25, 2014
BM won't do schitt for the race their too busy chasing WW P^ssy and making OOW as well as getting incarcerated
Survey Says

Richmond, TX

#2 Jul 25, 2014
Lots of black women work two jobs to support black men and keep them alive.
Ugh

Houston, TX

#3 Jul 25, 2014
See, while this article is well-meaning, it's hard for me rally around Black American Women like that Author's mindset. I will explain why but let me point out something real quick.

This Author took the death of Eric Garner, and instead of respecting it in that respect, she selfishly and seemingly uncaring, leveraged it to champion Black Woman's cause.

It's not that I wouldn't come to a Black Woman's defense in the same situation (they know we would!) but, they tend to make everything "Black Culture" about them. It's as if the way they see Black Culture, Black Man should not be seen as the more visible image by those outside of us but that's the way the American Society sees us.

They see the Men as the more visible image in the Black Community. Yet, Black Women don't like that, and fault us for it.

They don't want us getting any kind of attention, bad or good, unless they approve of it. This is the source of the Black American Woman's personal issues within herself and her warp ideology.

Black American Men, we don't understand this about Black Women. And though we try to comply and go along with the way the Black American Women want things to be, it is society (not us!) that keep prepping Black Men as the "image" to the Black Race, and putting them over Black Women. And again, Black Woman get mad at us and think it's our faults.

I mean.....huh???(scatch head).

Because of this, they will never see anything we do to be positive. They will see anything we do to be negative because they are mad with jealousy for the attention we get outside of them. Again, Black Man is left confused at Black Woman and don't know else to do. Thus, we leave and they been bashing us, since. Understand this, world! Understand this, America!

Next point....

Black Woman want Black Men to come to Black Woman defense when a Man beat her a**. I actually support that, and like I said, would go out of my way to defend a Black Woman in a situation like that but they make it HARD for us to do that!

Why?

Their chosen liefstyle. You see, thugs are NOT gonna mess with another Thug beating his woman. They simply feel that thug is "keeping his b***h in line." You see? So, these sisters are really looking to the decent brothers, the non-thug types to come to their defense. And they dont.

They don't because these are the VERY brothers they never gave the time of the day to. They never so much as look at him let alone, acknowledge him, smile, speak with him etc. All because he didn't have that "Thug Appeal."

So, when a thug beating your a***, you getting mad at the Men you would never have dated or given the time of the day to, for not helping you??? How you sound, Black Woman???

Does it make sense on your part? You got issues, sisters.
Sadbuttrue

Falls Church, VA

#4 Jul 25, 2014
Survey Says wrote:
Lots of black women work two jobs to support black men and keep them alive.
Maceo

Not any more! LMAO
Michael

Mission Viejo, CA

#5 Jul 25, 2014
Black women owe more to black men's causes.
Anthony

Pacoima, CA

#6 Jul 25, 2014
Ugh wrote:
See, while this article is well-meaning, it's hard for me rally around Black American Women like that Author's mindset. I will explain why but let me point out something real quick.
This Author took the death of Eric Garner, and instead of respecting it in that respect, she selfishly and seemingly uncaring, leveraged it to champion Black Woman's cause.
It's not that I wouldn't come to a Black Woman's defense in the same situation (they know we would!) but, they tend to make everything "Black Culture" about them. It's as if the way they see Black Culture, Black Man should not be seen as the more visible image by those outside of us but that's the way the American Society sees us.
They see the Men as the more visible image in the Black Community. Yet, Black Women don't like that, and fault us for it.
They don't want us getting any kind of attention, bad or good, unless they approve of it. This is the source of the Black American Woman's personal issues within herself and her warp ideology.
Black American Men, we don't understand this about Black Women. And though we try to comply and go along with the way the Black American Women want things to be, it is society (not us!) that keep prepping Black Men as the "image" to the Black Race, and putting them over Black Women. And again, Black Woman get mad at us and think it's our faults.
I mean.....huh???(scatch head).
Because of this, they will never see anything we do to be positive. They will see anything we do to be negative because they are mad with jealousy for the attention we get outside of them. Again, Black Man is left confused at Black Woman and don't know else to do. Thus, we leave and they been bashing us, since. Understand this, world! Understand this, America!
Next point....
Black Woman want Black Men to come to Black Woman defense when a Man beat her a**. I actually support that, and like I said, would go out of my way to defend a Black Woman in a situation like that but they make it HARD for us to do that!
Why?
Their chosen liefstyle. You see, thugs are NOT gonna mess with another Thug beating his woman. They simply feel that thug is "keeping his b***h in line." You see? So, these sisters are really looking to the decent brothers, the non-thug types to come to their defense. And they dont.
They don't because these are the VERY brothers they never gave the time of the day to. They never so much as look at him let alone, acknowledge him, smile, speak with him etc. All because he didn't have that "Thug Appeal."
So, when a thug beating your a***, you getting mad at the Men you would never have dated or given the time of the day to, for not helping you??? How you sound, Black Woman???
Does it make sense on your part? You got issues, sisters.
Brother, you are speaking the truth, if you haven't already, you need to write a book, if you ever have a cause I will stand on the front line with you, I love my black women but they need to wake up. They don't speak to brothers especially good ones who have their stuff together, can take care of themselves, these so called thugs are destroying their minds and these woman are having kids by them and expecting a good man to come to the rescue. Brothers with common sense, keep working hard, keep your money right, invest in yourself not women, it reminds me of a movie I saw where they stated that good black males are an endangered species, Encourage youself black males, and don't take no s*** from anyone, women or thugs, keep chasing your dreams and never give up, work hard and study hard, pick up a book and put the Xbox controller for a minute, and when you see a woman that you desire, man up and go after her, you control who you are no one else. Always remember the words of Marcus Garvey

"With confidence, you have won before you have started"
Big Knob

United States

#7 Jul 25, 2014
The cause of cultural and economic developement, complete liberation, a fair free open society, knowledge of self, will benefit both bm & bw because both are equally important..........do for self!
Big Knob

United States

#8 Jul 25, 2014
Sadbuttrue wrote:
BM won't do schitt for the race their too busy chasing WW P^ssy and making OOW as well as getting incarcerated
you'd have to be a bm to know what bm do or dont do dont you ? And youre accusing bm of chasing your mythical ww when its you who're wm begging on a daily basis, hypocrite, mr garner's family has a lawyer to represent them, and they dont need for harriet, do they? The cause was: i dont need a man, the effect is: they got what they spoke of, the moral of the story is: dont tell a man , you dont need a man, then when theyre not around, blame the man..........for not being around........tell them that WM will you?
Monster Kody

Lynwood, CA

#9 Jul 26, 2014
Sadbuttrue wrote:
BM won't do schitt for the race their too busy chasing WW P^ssy and making OOW as well as getting incarcerated
First off you need to pump your breaks with the generalizations. Perhaps it's the black men you know, but as for me, I date whoever I please and I don't need your approval.
Monster Kody

Lynwood, CA

#10 Jul 26, 2014
Survey Says wrote:
Lots of black women work two jobs to support black men and keep them alive.
There are also lots of black women who live off taxpayer dollars yet somehow have the means to buy gucci purses and get manicures and pedicures. Two sides to a coin.
Ms caramel

Hayward, CA

#12 Jul 26, 2014
I'm a BW and I have to say thats very true.
Ms caramel

Hayward, CA

#13 Jul 26, 2014
And for u BM putting BW down shame on you. Not all BW live off tax payer dollars if that's the case all BM do as well and are in jail. I'm a BW and I have a very good job, just like the BW I know. Also, I sure as hell don't care who a BM wants as his sexual desire. I can give a fxxk. I love dating other men of different race myself. So for the BM that think and try to speculate these horrific things about their own kind, go kill yourself, your nothing but a bad apple. Yes, I do aggressive with this topic. BM owe us a lot, they treat us like shxt, while the other men of a different treat their women with, love, loyalty and RESPECT. They are not rapping and say horrible things about their own kind in songs etc. I'm not saying all BM because that would just be exaggeration. But I think BM just can't stand it for a BW to excel and succeed when at the same time we all come from the same struggle. Our black race is cursed. I couldn't believe the comments I've just read. We have not only other race saying bad things about us, our own kind as well??!! Smh at this shit.
Ms caramel

Hayward, CA

#14 Jul 26, 2014
Michael wrote:
Black women owe more to black men's causes.
Ha! Since when??? Please don't be in denial.
Ms caramel

Hayward, CA

#15 Jul 26, 2014
Ugh wrote:
See, while this article is well-meaning, it's hard for me rally around Black American Women like that Author's mindset. I will explain why but let me point out something real quick.
This Author took the death of Eric Garner, and instead of respecting it in that respect, she selfishly and seemingly uncaring, leveraged it to champion Black Woman's cause.
It's not that I wouldn't come to a Black Woman's defense in the same situation (they know we would!) but, they tend to make everything "Black Culture" about them. It's as if the way they see Black Culture, Black Man should not be seen as the more visible image by those outside of us but that's the way the American Society sees us.
They see the Men as the more visible image in the Black Community. Yet, Black Women don't like that, and fault us for it.
They don't want us getting any kind of attention, bad or good, unless they approve of it. This is the source of the Black American Woman's personal issues within herself and her warp ideology.
Black American Men, we don't understand this about Black Women. And though we try to comply and go along with the way the Black American Women want things to be, it is society (not us!) that keep prepping Black Men as the "image" to the Black Race, and putting them over Black Women. And again, Black Woman get mad at us and think it's our faults.
I mean.....huh???(scatch head).
Because of this, they will never see anything we do to be positive. They will see anything we do to be negative because they are mad with jealousy for the attention we get outside of them. Again, Black Man is left confused at Black Woman and don't know else to do. Thus, we leave and they been bashing us, since. Understand this, world! Understand this, America!
Next point....
Black Woman want Black Men to come to Black Woman defense when a Man beat her a**. I actually support that, and like I said, would go out of my way to defend a Black Woman in a situation like that but they make it HARD for us to do that!
Why?
Their chosen liefstyle. You see, thugs are NOT gonna mess with another Thug beating his woman. They simply feel that thug is "keeping his b***h in line." You see? So, these sisters are really looking to the decent brothers, the non-thug types to come to their defense. And they dont.
They don't because these are the VERY brothers they never gave the time of the day to. They never so much as look at him let alone, acknowledge him, smile, speak with him etc. All because he didn't have that "Thug Appeal."
So, when a thug beating your a***, you getting mad at the Men you would never have dated or given the time of the day to, for not helping you??? How you sound, Black Woman???
Does it make sense on your part? You got issues, sisters.
Maybe, it's the BW you know, been around or where you live. Don't judge all BW. See your just judging upon your experience. You really need to get around more. Your just like a woman who say all men are dogs. Only because she ran into some really bad men. Is that true? Are all men dogs? Perhaps, are you? Ok, so don't speculate things about all women further more, BW. I'm a BW and I'm nothing like what you've described above. Also I want BM to stop thinking BW only want BM. I mean don't be mislead. I love my brothas don't get me wrong but, I have a sexual preference for other men of nationalities as well. Men are men. So BM need to stop thinking we only want you. Stop thinking we are just so stuck on BM and mad at BM for dating outside their race. Who cares. We are al human and it's nothing wrong with it. Also BW don't only want a thug. Sometime that's who we attract because of our demeanor. Some of us do. But I prefer a nice man who's respectable, nice and caring and it does not matter his race. He don't have to be black. So watch it my brotha when you judge a sista, because your facts are just really opinions. Leave the judging to God next time. He knows the truth!!!
Big Knob

United States

#16 Jul 26, 2014
Ms caramel wrote:
And for u BM putting BW down shame on you. Not all BW live off tax payer dollars if that's the case all BM do as well and are in jail. I'm a BW and I have a very good job, just like the BW I know. Also, I sure as hell don't care who a BM wants as his sexual desire. I can give a fxxk. I love dating other men of different race myself. So for the BM that think and try to speculate these horrific things about their own kind, go kill yourself, your nothing but a bad apple. Yes, I do aggressive with this topic. BM owe us a lot, they treat us like shxt, while the other men of a different treat their women with, love, loyalty and RESPECT. They are not rapping and say horrible things about their own kind in songs etc. I'm not saying all BM because that would just be exaggeration. But I think BM just can't stand it for a BW to excel and succeed when at the same time we all come from the same struggle. Our black race is cursed. I couldn't believe the comments I've just read. We have not only other race saying bad things about us, our own kind as well??!! Smh at this shit.
The women in my life have my back, just like i have theirs, having said that, you mentioned the rappers, yet its bw who buy their music, but have you considerd books by alice walker, terry mcmillian, belle hooks, andra lourde, Linda LaRue, michell wallace, essense magazine articles ophar's DL myth, bebe campbell moore, they were in the bm bash game long before the rappers began responding to their criticism, remember the movies the color purple & waiting to exhale they sure did paint a wonderful picture of all bm did they..........question who degrades women more, fantsay rappers or that WM's PORN industry,.......be honest!
Ms caramel

Hayward, CA

#17 Jul 26, 2014
Monster Kody wrote:
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There are also lots of black women who live off taxpayer dollars yet somehow have the means to buy gucci purses and get manicures and pedicures. Two sides to a coin.
In your book my brotha! If that's the case most of all BM are dogs, dead beat dads and in jail. Broke and trying to make a $ out of 15 cent. Is that' true? So please, stop and if your not black and speaking on a BW. Your just mad because we don't want your ass!
Big Knob

United States

#18 Jul 26, 2014
@ms carmel,
You dont see other races of men degrade their women the way that wm has for years degraded ww in the porn industry have you? Look at playboy, penthouse, hustlar magazines, infact that wm goes around the third world with his porn camera exploiting women, then post the videos for pay for view for money. So which degrades bw more rap music, or ghetto gaggers, whats your opinion?
Michael

Escondido, CA

#19 Jul 26, 2014
Ms caramel wrote:
<quoted text>
Ha! Since when??? Please don't be in denial.
Since always. To go a bit more into the thought, I believe black men owe more to black women and black women owe to black men.

Since: Jul 14

Towson, MD

#20 Jul 26, 2014
the gender divide in blacks prevents community involvement for the progress and success of a race.it would be better if black men did better to improve the plight and dignity of black women

Since: Jun 14

Lynwood, CA

#21 Jul 27, 2014
Ms caramel wrote:
And for u BM putting BW down shame on you. Not all BW live off tax payer dollars if that's the case all BM do as well and are in jail. I'm a BW and I have a very good job, just like the BW I know. Also, I sure as hell don't care who a BM wants as his sexual desire. I can give a fxxk. I love dating other men of different race myself. So for the BM that think and try to speculate these horrific things about their own kind, go kill yourself, your nothing but a bad apple. Yes, I do aggressive with this topic. BM owe us a lot, they treat us like shxt, while the other men of a different treat their women with, love, loyalty and RESPECT. They are not rapping and say horrible things about their own kind in songs etc. I'm not saying all BM because that would just be exaggeration. But I think BM just can't stand it for a BW to excel and succeed when at the same time we all come from the same struggle. Our black race is cursed. I couldn't believe the comments I've just read. We have not only other race saying bad things about us, our own kind as well??!! Smh at this shit.
Stop being emotional I used the word "some" not all. As far as Black men owing your something, nobody owes you a damn thing. Stop using this entitlement issue as if being a black woman means you're entitled.

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