White americans and their black ancestry

White americans and their black ancestry

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TRUE SELF-MASTERY

#1 Oct 10, 2008
Why is it that we never really hear about white americans and their black ancestry. You know the millions who "passed" as white. people are quick to talk about african americans are not "pure" blacks.

i read this site:

http://198.66.252.234/sweet9.h tml

and here is what some of it said,
"two percent of Black-labeled young adults take this race-switching step in every census decade. This comes to about sixty thousand young adults every year who resolve henceforth to call themselves White.
Seen another way, it means that just over two million White adults alive today started life as Black children. Add up the numbers since 1850 and you will find that about nine million Americans have taken this step over the past century and a half. Over the years, this multitude has produced many tens of millions of descendants, all of whom today unknowingly consider themselves White.
The above graph is the result of downloading, tabulating, and plotting this information to show the population of such citizens since before the Civil War. It shows how many White adults had previously been recorded as Black children"

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#2 Oct 10, 2008
also; " England's highest social level welcomed Afro-European intermarriage as late as 1761.
King George III's wife of more than 50 years, Charlotte Sophia of Mecklenburg-Strelitz, whom he wed that year, was openly biracial, a dark-complexioned noblewoman descended from Margarita de Castro y Sousa, of the Afro-European branch of the Portuguese Royal House.
Her biracial features are clear in contemporary portraits, the most famous being the one by Sir Allan Ramsay. Queen Victoria was her granddaughter. Two centuries later, during Queen Elizabeth II's 1953 coronation, the Royal Household referred to the present queen's African bloodline in a white paper it published defending her position as head of the Commonwealth. Every knowledgeable Briton knows of the present Queen's African ancestry. Yet none considers her (or her ancestors Queen Victoria or Queen Charlotte, for that matter) to be "Black."

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Georgia Peach

#3 Oct 10, 2008
Many whites have black ancestory but they say that it is Indian. Indians arent that much of the population so I dont know why so many ppl claim to have Indian in them.

“Back in the Badger State”

Since: Jul 08

Milwaukee, Wisconsin

#4 Oct 10, 2008
I think that it's very hard to prove the Black ethnicity of someone who successfully lived as a White person unless they themselves admit to it. In many cases, such an admission would not have been possible, because of the repercussions. It's an interesting thread you've started.
RATM

Hoeselt, Belgium

#5 Oct 10, 2008
I'm sure there's been plenty of recent DNA tests performed on white Americans. Maybe you should 'google' those and then we have something to go on instead of this questionable site.
Strauss

Cayce, SC

#6 Oct 10, 2008
Google Me wrote:
Why is it that we never really hear about white americans and their black ancestry. You know the millions who "passed" as white. people are quick to talk about african americans are not "pure" blacks.
i read this site:
http://198.66.252.234/sweet9.h tml
and here is what some of it said,
"two percent of Black-labeled young adults take this race-switching step in every census decade. This comes to about sixty thousand young adults every year who resolve henceforth to call themselves White.
Seen another way, it means that just over two million White adults alive today started life as Black children. Add up the numbers since 1850 and you will find that about nine million Americans have taken this step over the past century and a half. Over the years, this multitude has produced many tens of millions of descendants, all of whom today unknowingly consider themselves White.
The above graph is the result of downloading, tabulating, and plotting this information to show the population of such citizens since before the Civil War. It shows how many White adults had previously been recorded as Black children"
You know, Im glad Im white. Even more so after reading these posts from people who are so worried about lite/dark. If I have black ancestry you cant see it and Im not going looking for it.
ttt

Woodstock, GA

#7 Oct 10, 2008
You do but they cover it up.

Sally Hemming / Thomas Jefferson

Strom Thurmond

You know most white people keep a tight lip about stuff like that.

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Georgia Peach

#8 Oct 10, 2008
Strauss wrote:
<quoted text>You know, Im glad Im white. Even more so after reading these posts from people who are so worried about lite/dark. If I have black ancestry you cant see it and Im not going looking for it.
Many of us arent like that and we are just as proud of our color as you are

“Not African, we're Orginal!”

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The World

#9 Oct 10, 2008
The 'switch'.

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#10 Oct 10, 2008
GirlPower wrote:
Many whites have black ancestory but they say that it is Indian. Indians arent that much of the population so I dont know why so many ppl claim to have Indian in them.
they would even rather admit they are part alien than black lol idk their mentality is so weird.

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#11 Oct 10, 2008
ttt wrote:
You do but they cover it up.
Sally Hemming / Thomas Jefferson
Strom Thurmond
You know most white people keep a tight lip about stuff like that.
until one of their kids come out brwkskin and biracial looking, then shit hits the fan

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Georgia Peach

#12 Oct 10, 2008
Google Me wrote:
<quoted text>
they would even rather admit they are part alien than black lol idk their mentality is so weird.
yep. I dont know why the think they have so much NA in them. When they are olived skinned with real dark hair that the first thing that they say, "O my great-grandmother once removed was Cherokee". The NA that ive seen are that dark so I dont know why their genes would be so strong 5-6 generations away.IDK. go figure

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Georgia Peach

#13 Oct 10, 2008
* I mean arent that dark

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Since: Jul 08

Milwaukee, Wisconsin

#14 Oct 10, 2008
Google Me wrote:
<quoted text> until one of their kids come out brwkskin and biracial looking, then shit hits the fan
And then we come full circle to the topic of this thread,'cause when the baby is born people want answers. It's interesting stuff.

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Since: May 08

Pacific Northwest

#15 Oct 10, 2008
Google Me wrote:
....Every knowledgeable Briton knows of the present Queen's African ancestry. Yet none considers her (or her ancestors Queen Victoria or Queen Charlotte, for that matter) to be "Black."
That's because British are not Americans.

Only in the United States of America was it considered essential to implement a one-drop rule in order to "preserve" the white race. LOL

In Britain, whites were and are EVERYWHERE. Britain is a nation founded by whites. There was never any "danger" of whites in Britain being exterminated by Indian warriors or massacred by a massive slave revolt.

When you are more secure and self-confident about who you are as a people in your homeland, you don't need weird-ass social conventions and customs designed to preserve white folks' so-called "purity."

“Not African, we're Orginal!”

Since: Sep 08

The World

#16 Oct 10, 2008
Do the NA have African DNA?
RATM

Hoeselt, Belgium

#17 Oct 10, 2008
GirlPower wrote:
<quoted text>yep. I dont know why the think they have so much NA in them. When they are olived skinned with real dark hair that the first thing that they say, "O my great-grandmother once removed was Cherokee". The NA that ive seen are that dark so I dont know why their genes would be so strong 5-6 generations away.IDK. go figure
First, there is such a thing as Southern Europeans who have a dark complexion.

Second, most NA's that you've seen are probably white for a substantial part. There are few pure Indians left in the USA.
Strauss

Cayce, SC

#18 Oct 10, 2008
GirlPower wrote:
<quoted text>Many of us arent like that and we are just as proud of our color as you are
I know that but on this site, as many real discussions as I have had. Im still tested as to whether Im happy being white. Every body telling me I tan to be black,get all sorts of implants. As you see though I never speak to a group. Always an individuals post. And anything ugly to you. Id be scarred.
Strauss

Cayce, SC

#19 Oct 10, 2008
Id never say anything to you.

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Georgia Peach

#20 Oct 10, 2008
RATM wrote:
<quoted text>
First, there is such a thing as Southern Europeans who have a dark complexion.
Second, most NA's that you've seen are probably white for a substantial part. There are few pure Indians left in the USA.
thats very true. however, esp in the south, there was a lot mixing esp back during slavery. the biracial ppl that couple pass, usually went white and they ones who couldnt went with black. They kind of duluted both sides

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