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Orthopod1
Granby, CT
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Chris wrote: <quoted text> Question is do they consider the inequeties innate, cultural, or environmental? If you look at African American overall IQ, and do not link it the high percentage of them dealing with poverty and poor schooling in the inner cities then your data is useless. I'd have to take a look at these guys. Regardless, they are entitled to speak their minds. That's what advanced citizenship is all about. Exactly, their opinions are irrelevant so long as they are not calling for violence and so forth. The other side loses the moral high ground by trying to silence them.
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Monitor report
Tuckerton, NJ
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The high ground is defending yourself against islam!
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Chris
Lake Forest, IL
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Marco the atheist wrote: <quoted text> You are aware that the Ustashi were on the side of the Axis? Yes, but they were also interested in genocide, particularly against Bosnian Muslims. Good Catholic boys, the Ustashi.....
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Chris
Lake Forest, IL
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Orthopod1 wrote: <quoted text> Exactly, their opinions are irrelevant so long as they are not calling for violence and so forth. The other side loses the moral high ground by trying to silence them. Agreed.
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“Facts, not fiction”
Joined: Apr 2, 2007
Comments: 5837
Copenhagen, Denmark
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Chris wrote: <quoted text> Yes, but they were also interested in genocide, particularly against Bosnian Muslims. Good Catholic boys, the Ustashi..... Ehm....their main target were the Serbs. Their leader even considered the muslim parts as integral part of the new independent-to-be Croatia. And as muslims! That does not mean there were no conflicts between the two groups, but the Serbs and Jews were by far the preferred targets. But even if they would have been (and evidence shows they were not), that still does not negate the point I made: the anti-jewish sentiments of large groups of Bosniaks had nothing to do with being under British or French control. History, tricky subject that.
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Chris
Lake Forest, IL
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Marco the atheist wrote: <quoted text> Ehm....their main target were the Serbs. Their leader even considered the muslim parts as integral part of the new independent-to-be Croatia. And as muslims! That does not mean there were no conflicts between the two groups, but the Serbs and Jews were by far the preferred targets. But even if they would have been (and evidence shows they were not), that still does not negate the point I made: the anti-jewish sentiments of large groups of Bosniaks had nothing to do with being under British or French control. History, tricky subject that. I teach History. Yes, it is a tricky subject. The Ustashi targeted Muslims as well as Serbs. As for French or British control, neither of them had much control of the situation in Yugoslavia. World War II in Yugoslavia was a brutal affair, but Yugoslavia determined it's own fate. Thanks largely to Tito. As for Jews in Yugoslavia, I know both the Chetniks and the Ustashi aided the SS in deporting Jews, but not much else.
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“Facts, not fiction”
Joined: Apr 2, 2007
Comments: 5837
Copenhagen, Denmark
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Chris wrote: <quoted text> I teach History... As for Jews in Yugoslavia, I know both the Chetniks and the Ustashi aided the SS in deporting Jews, but not much else. The Ustase aiding the SS in deporting jews is an understatement. They are held directly responsible for killing 32,000 of them. They also had no need for the SS, they had their own extermination camps (an estimated 350,000 Serbs were killed by the Ustase in the NDH).
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