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Sep 15, 2009 | Posted by: roboblogger

A sad and ironic legacy for Logan County

Full story: Charleston Daily Mail

A contributor to a local Internet bulletin board, not known for his bleeding-heart liberal views, felt the way many of us did when we read of the atrocity in Logan County, where a young black woman was tortured for a week, allegedly at the hands of six white people.

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This was not a black and white issue.If the bunch had been haters of blacks they would not have had a relationship with her to start with.It is the same story of other girls in Logan having been found buried alive.Burnt locked in trunks and etc.It is called drugs and thugs.
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You can't torture someone calling them derogatory racial names and say there is no root in racism to the crime. One person out of that evil group had a relationship. I'm sure, that the rest of his white family wasn't too cool with thier white child dating a mentally disabled black girl. Its sick. I don't care if drugs were involved. This girl was mentally challenged, taken advantage of, abused and tortured in ways unimaginable, and anybody that would want to sugar coat that and write it off to drugs is just as sick and demented as the abusers. That remark sounds typical of some stupid white hillbilly. Ugh!
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and by the way....before you start calling me a racist against white people....I am white. I hate the reputation this area has for its racism against african-americans. Its sickening!
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Just wait a moment.....the reputation this area has on racism...what is the differnce in a black person calling a white person a 'cracker' and a white calling the black the 'not so friendly word we've all been tought not to say' to the black. ITS STILL RACISM toward the white people if I can say so. I don't agree with what that family did to that girl....in no means....but I don't think it had to do with the fact she was black. I think she crossed the wrong path of one of them and then they couldn't stop before she was dead. Luckily she was found alive. But all this about a black hate crime....it was a hate crime against her, not just because of her color. And if she was so afraid of them and the area, why has she returned since. She has some connection there and she can't stay away. Once the media was clear and over her dramatic, terrible experience, and moved on, she was back in the same area, with the white folk! This sort of stuff happens to white people all the time by blacks and even whites, do we get to go on Montel and Oprah. Do we get a college tuition paid for in advance and a lump of money to spend. No......think about it. Think about the children everyday that is tortured by their own parents, do they get anything special for the abuse they suffer....no.....but let a white torture a black and the whole NAACP gets involved for support. Where is the white support....? Thats right...we have none!
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and by the way....before you start calling me a racist against white people....I am white. I hate the reputation this area has for its racism against african-americans. Its sickening!
Amen brotha, I am white and feel the same way.
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and by the way....before you start calling me a racist against white people....I am white. I hate the reputation this area has for its racism against african-americans. Its sickening!
People like you make me sick, You are a free spirited, free kneegrow loving, liberal hippy-jew. African Americans... gimme a break
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Saint Albans, WV

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Even so wrote:
and by the way....before you start calling me a racist against white people....I am white. I hate the reputation this area has for its racism against african-americans. Its sickening!
Let me tell you about racist attitudes in Logan.We were as poor as the blacks.My father worked everyday as a miner as did a lot of his black coal mining friends.I went to school with them with no hostility towards them.I fought more whites in school than blacks.I do not disrespect anyone for their color,but dont disrespect me for mine.The blacks have as many if not more chances than a white child for schooling in America.The Civil War ended a long time ago.That war was not a black white issue either,it was a land grab of Southern land.You better reread your history.I have no desire to own anyone so dont act like I do.I am 60 yrs old I visited in many coal camps where white and black lived elbow to elbow with each other.The black and white watched out for each others kids and had respect for each other.That is the issue any more no respect for yourself or others.So get off the black white issue.It is the same story drugs and thugs.The Indians should be the one to bitch about all of the oppression in this country.
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Saint Albans, WV

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You can't torture someone calling them derogatory racial names and say there is no root in racism to the crime. One person out of that evil group had a relationship. I'm sure, that the rest of his white family wasn't too cool with thier white child dating a mentally disabled black girl. Its sick. I don't care if drugs were involved. This girl was mentally challenged, taken advantage of, abused and tortured in ways unimaginable, and anybody that would want to sugar coat that and write it off to drugs is just as sick and demented as the abusers. That remark sounds typical of some stupid white hillbilly. Ugh!
As for your stupid remark about stupid white hillbillys.We are known as mountaineers.If you dont like us move away if you live here.Go to Harlem and see how good you will be treated by the same people you are telling me are not rascist.You will sure be glad to be back in the hills of West BY GOD Virginia,among the stupid hillbillys
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Kermit, WV

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I am so tired of political correctness..why do we have to call blacks African American? well hell from now on I want to be referred to as a German American by the black community and the first time one of them call me white or cracker I'll have a hissy fit and tell everyone how the blacks are keeping me down because of my skin color
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Charleston, WV

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Sep 16, 2009
 
no really- what the f#*k?
lucylocket

South Williamson, KY

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Sep 16, 2009
 
hollywood hood wrote:
no really- what the f#*k?
Keep it clean, Hood.
Not too long after the incident with the black girl, there was a white woman in Logan killed by a black man. Not much news there.
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Gilboa, WV

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Sep 16, 2009
 
MY POINT EXACTLY!!!!!
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Keep it clean, Hood.
Not too long after the incident with the black girl, there was a white woman in Logan killed by a black man. Not much news there.
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lucylocket wrote:
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Keep it clean, Hood.
Not too long after the incident with the black girl, there was a white woman in Logan killed by a black man. Not much news there.
I know the bunch who did this to the black girl at big creek it was not because she was black that bunch of idiots most likely did the same thing to many white women. they needed in prison long before this happened. these people were wrong and every person white or black would say the so. they are all now in prison for life but it was not a hate crime.

if it had been a white girl they would still be living at big creek doing the same thing to other people.

YES YES why isn't anybody writing bout the way whites are treated by blacks in this area.
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Racism cuts both ways http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/news/stories... . Blacks are bigger racists!
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Sep 16, 2009
 
It's my opinion that everyone involved in that incident was/is mentally challenged (including the young ladies parents who let her run free and only acted concerned when they saw dollar signs). But, that alone doesn't excuse the atrocity done to her. I hope she's healing.
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Just wait a moment.....the reputation this area has on racism...what is the differnce in a black person calling a white person a 'cracker' and a white calling the black the 'not so friendly word we've all been tought not to say' to the black. ITS STILL RACISM toward the white people if I can say so. I don't agree with what that family did to that girl....in no means....but I don't think it had to do with the fact she was black. I think she crossed the wrong path of one of them and then they couldn't stop before she was dead. Luckily she was found alive. But all this about a black hate crime....it was a hate crime against her, not just because of her color. And if she was so afraid of them and the area, why has she returned since. She has some connection there and she can't stay away. Once the media was clear and over her dramatic, terrible experience, and moved on, she was back in the same area, with the white folk! This sort of stuff happens to white people all the time by blacks and even whites, do we get to go on Montel and Oprah. Do we get a college tuition paid for in advance and a lump of money to spend. No......think about it. Think about the children everyday that is tortured by their own parents, do they get anything special for the abuse they suffer....no.....but let a white torture a black and the whole NAACP gets involved for support. Where is the white support....? Thats right...we have none!
For starters I am white and what they did to this girl was uncalled for...I do agree everyone should be took care of who are tortured...But it dont work that way...Not for the white or the blacks...This was a isolated case that had attention called to it and she happened to be one of the few that gets anything for what she went through and she deserves everything they give her...Why would you complain about that...And if she has been back in this area so what...Not everyone oround here is low life scum like those people...And I believe one of the reasons attention was called to this situation so much it was bad enough that she was a black woman tortured the way she was but she is also mentally challenged...You really got issues...I can appreciate what they have done for her and only pray more people would be so caring unlike you...You must be a Big Creeker...You want to justify this...I got news for you...There is no justifying what happened to her...One more thing back a few years back when we went into Iraq and saved our girl from there she got awards for being a hero...Was she a hero...No she was a a prisoner that was tortured when she came home they gave her cars and degrees to collage...The real heros was the ones who saved her...She would have died without them...Ok this is the same thing...It had nothing to do with race or anything...Both tortured one white one black one tortued here in our own country the other tortured somewhere else either way they both deserved to recieve what they did...And I am happy for them both...So get over it...Not matter who they are where they are from if they went through something tramatic and people wanna reach out to help them recover and to build thier lives back its wonderful...But cold hearted a**holes like you would never consider giving anyone that kind of break would you?...You would rather complain someone did do something...No worries it didnt come out of your pocket...Heaven forbid someone use your money for good
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Sep 17, 2009
 
YOU need to take a moment and read again! I never said I didn't feel sorry for her nor that I disagree with what she has received/deserved from the publicity. That's great for her..my point was that there are children being tortured everyday and no one seems to care. There are white girls being done this way, and no one stands behind them so that they can heal properly. There is nothing wrong with me,I am not a BIG CREAKER,and I work everyday of my life so that 'scum' like this can have there ck and be able to stay home and think of things to amuse them. I care too much for issues like this and I would give my last cent if the world could be fixed,but it CAN'T.Name calling and accusing is one of the problems and you are just one of the many that have proved that in your response.You have sure showed your true intelligence and the way you feel about these things.Its my tax dollars that probably allow u to sit around and do nothing but criticize the way other people feel.I am not asking anyone to agree with me,but my feeling on this is that the white people are becoming more of a minority everyday.Have you ever went into a store or a gas station and passed a large black man and felt a little threatened by him?...that is what they want.Who is goin to be there for the white people when something like what happened to this girl happens to us? No one...I should only pray that someday we have the protection we need to back us up.As far as her being mentally challenged, where was her family if she was SOOO mentally challenged? Don't you think that if I had a child that was mental and had been missing for a week that I would contact someone...maybe the last person she/he was with or some other friends that may know her hangout? Her family did not know where she was, who she was with, or what she was doing. Mentally challenged people need special attention and care.....being stupid is not metally challenged!
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For starters I am white and what they did to this girl was uncalled for...I do agree everyone should be took care of who are tortured...But it dont work that way...Not for the white or the blacks...This was a isolated case that had attention called to it and she happened to be one of the few that gets anything for what she went through and she deserves everything they give her...Why would you complain about that...And if she has been back in this area so what...Not everyone oround here is low life scum like those people...And I believe one of the reasons attention was called to this situation so much it was bad enough that she was a black woman tortured the way she was but she is also mentally challenged...You really got issues...I can appreciate what they have done for her and only pray more people would be so caring unlike you...You must be a Big Creeker...You want to justify this...I got news for you...There is no justifying what happened to her...One more thing back a few years back when we went into Iraq and saved our girl from there she got awards for being a hero...Was she a hero...No she was a a prisoner that was tortured when she came home they gave her cars and degrees to collage...The real heros was the ones who saved her...She would have died without them...Ok this is the same thing...It had nothing to do with race or anything...Both tortured one white one black one tortued here in our own country the other tortured somewhere else either way they both deserved to recieve what they did...And I am happy for them both...So get over it...Not matter who they are where they are from if they went through something tramatic and people wanna reach out to help them recover and to build thier lives back its wonderful...But cold hearted a**holes like you would never consider giving anyone that kind of break would you?...You would rather complain someone did do something...No worries it didnt come out of your pocket...Heaven forbid someone use your money for good
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The majority of these comments just reinforce the theme of the article - Logan is full of racists. The racism (and illiteracy) comes through loud and clear in the feeble attempts of denial.
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Calling black people african americans: why would I want to call them blacks? When I see a group of white folks together, I don't call them whites. How stupid. I do say that a person is black. But when you speak of their race as a whole, they are African American, you idiot. You don't call Oriental races "yellows" do you? No. You say Chinese, Korean, Japanese.

Secondly: I have experienced blatant racism from 'blacks' as you like to call them, in the south.(the real south, not this made up one you people claim to live in) However, I also found out that its usually a front. They expect white people to be racist, so they are racist 'first'. To keep from getting hurt, they don't let their guard down. Can you blame them? Our ancestors came over by choice. Theirs came by force. You dumb hillbillies say send em back, but your IDIOT FAMILIES TORTURED THEIR FAMILIES AND MADE THEM COME, go dig up your great great great great grandpa and slap him for it!

Third: I have lived in these hills all my life, I have also spent time living in the city (mid-west), and have spent some time down south. I never encountered racist issues while in the city. Not that they didn't exist I suppose, however it wasn't that big of a deal. In the south, a lot of people are still mentally segregated.

Fourth: Yes, they do have the same opportunities, no one said they didn't. I think its a good thing. This is AMERICA where we are all FREE, not just the white folks (as some of you would prefer). What makes you think white people are any better than black people just because you are white? Thats moronic.

Lastly: YES, I love black people (sorry but negro? really?). NO, I am not LIBERAL, I am actually very CONSERVATIVE and REPUBLICAN. Call me what you want, but I hate racism, I hate IGNORANCE, and on the subject....if calling a black woman a "NGR" isn't racist, I don't know what is. Nowhere in the news did I see where she called anybody a cracker. WHY would YOU take up for those IDIOTS??????????
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Calling black people african americans: why would I want to call them blacks? When I see a group of white folks together, I don't call them whites. How stupid. I do say that a person is black. But when you speak of their race as a whole, they are African American, you idiot. You don't call Oriental races "yellows" do you? No. You say Chinese, Korean, Japanese.
Secondly: I have experienced blatant racism from 'blacks' as you like to call them, in the south.(the real south, not this made up one you people claim to live in) However, I also found out that its usually a front. They expect white people to be racist, so they are racist 'first'. To keep from getting hurt, they don't let their guard down. Can you blame them? Our ancestors came over by choice. Theirs came by force. You dumb hillbillies say send em back, but your IDIOT FAMILIES TORTURED THEIR FAMILIES AND MADE THEM COME, go dig up your great great great great grandpa and slap him for it!
Third: I have lived in these hills all my life, I have also spent time living in the city (mid-west), and have spent some time down south. I never encountered racist issues while in the city. Not that they didn't exist I suppose, however it wasn't that big of a deal. In the south, a lot of people are still mentally segregated.
Fourth: Yes, they do have the same opportunities, no one said they didn't. I think its a good thing. This is AMERICA where we are all FREE, not just the white folks (as some of you would prefer). What makes you think white people are any better than black people just because you are white? Thats moronic.
Lastly: YES, I love black people (sorry but negro? really?). NO, I am not LIBERAL, I am actually very CONSERVATIVE and REPUBLICAN. Call me what you want, but I hate racism, I hate IGNORANCE, and on the subject....if calling a black woman a "NGR" isn't racist, I don't know what is. Nowhere in the news did I see where she called anybody a cracker. WHY would YOU take up for those IDIOTS??????????
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