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here and there
Charleston, IL
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Thank God!! hope he gets placed in a special room full of mirrors for the rest of his "un"natural life.
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Roger Shrum
Lorain, OH
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yea me too, you aint the only one, his doomsday is coming sooner than they'd like...
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brokenhearted
Lorain, OH
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I hope he rots in jail the bastard. I think he needs to be charged with premeditated or capital murder, then we could go for the death penalty
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hmm
Williamson, WV
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Wow, I understand being angry but threatening is never wise. Seriously.
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here and there
Camargo, IL
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"Little Man"- you need a road trip. Get your Sister and come see us!!! Get out of that place for a while. You both need a break.
Love and hugs.
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brokenhearted
Lorain, OH
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hmm wrote: Wow, I understand being angry but threatening is never wise. Seriously. who's threatening, but maybe if you were in my shoes and this happended to your daughter then maybe you would want the bastard dead as well
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hmm
Williamson, WV
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It sounded a little threatening. I do understand and empathize with you, more than you know. If I were in your shoes I would probably feel the same way, BUT I am not. I am in the other camp. The one where someone you grew up loving and caring for has done something unimaginably horrible and yet you still love them. You can't help it. If one of your relatives that you loved did something horrible, would you stop caring about them? I'm sorry, but this is a tragedy for both families. It really is.
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brokenhearted
Lorain, OH
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hmm wrote: It sounded a little threatening. I do understand and empathize with you, more than you know. If I were in your shoes I would probably feel the same way, BUT I am not. I am in the other camp. The one where someone you grew up loving and caring for has done something unimaginably horrible and yet you still love them. You can't help it. If one of your relatives that you loved did something horrible, would you stop caring about them? I'm sorry, but this is a tragedy for both families. It really is. If someone in my family needed that kind of help years ago, i would have made sure they got the help they needed, not just overlook all his angry episodes or keep taking the beatings from my son. Maybe if his mother had tried to get him help then this wouldn't have happened
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brokenhearted
Lorain, OH
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hmm wrote: It sounded a little threatening. I do understand and empathize with you, more than you know. If I were in your shoes I would probably feel the same way, BUT I am not. I am in the other camp. The one where someone you grew up loving and caring for has done something unimaginably horrible and yet you still love them. You can't help it. If one of your relatives that you loved did something horrible, would you stop caring about them? I'm sorry, but this is a tragedy for both families. It really is. And no I was not threatening him, I just stated a fact, I wish they would go for the death penalty. Let his mother feel what this mother feels.
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hmm
Williamson, WV
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I am not trying to be mean or disrespectful, but in all honesty Heather had a LOT of problems too that she needed a lot of help for. They both had problems and both families probably could have done more to help. They were both grown adults though and therefore they could stay in that relationship if they chose to; which they did. I know you're angry and it's easy to blame everyone right now, and probably eases the pain some to have somewhere to direct your anger. But seriously, you know it's not easy to see the fault in your own children when they make very bad life choices and are in a bad place. It is a terrible situation and believe it or not people on the other side of this are suffering too.
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brokenhearted
Lorain, OH
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hmm wrote: I am not trying to be mean or disrespectful, but in all honesty Heather had a LOT of problems too that she needed a lot of help for. They both had problems and both families probably could have done more to help. They were both grown adults though and therefore they could stay in that relationship if they chose to; which they did. I know you're angry and it's easy to blame everyone right now, and probably eases the pain some to have somewhere to direct your anger. But seriously, you know it's not easy to see the fault in your own children when they make very bad life choices and are in a bad place. It is a terrible situation and believe it or not people on the other side of this are suffering too. yes Heather had problems and we tried to get her help, but how can you when her husband was beating her and making her take drugs. Wish i knew who you really were, at least you still have that monster, we don't have Heather anymore and we never will thanks to him;
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brokenhearted
Lorain, OH
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And another thing if i had the chance to do things over again i would have killed him myself.
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brokenhearted
Lorain, OH
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Heather was trying to get away from him, that was why she was packing her clothes. She told me at my nephew's funeral 2 weeks before Mackie killed her that the next time he beat her she was leaving. But he made sure that didn't happen didn't he.
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brokenhearted
Lorain, OH
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yes i'm angry and yes who else would i direct that anger to but Mackie, he was the one that was playing GOD and took matters into his own hands. I just hope that he never haves a moment of peace, but then again he will never feel any remorse of quilt because that's the type of person he is.
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hmm
Williamson, WV
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You don't know me. I see now that this is futile. You are still too much in the grieving process to be able to see any other side of things. I completely understand your anger and rage, but surely you see how naive it is to say he was making her take drugs. Both of them had drug problems long before meeting one another. Sorry I said anything. I feel compassion for your family as well as my own and was hoping, obviously very incorrectly, that we could understand that both families are suffering. In different ways of course, but still suffering. I hurt for you and your family. I'm sorry for what has happened. I hope you can find some peace someday.
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hmm
Williamson, WV
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Like I said, I can see where you are coming from because I am sure I would feel the very same way, I am just trying to see it from both sides in that noone is perfect and I am sure there was more everyone could have done to help both of them.
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Mom
London, KY
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Brokenhearted, someone in my family is in a similar situation, and will not listen when we try to get her out of it. I know this is so painful for you, but could you give me any insight, any advice, on how to get her out of his power? I'm so afraid she will be next.
You're in my prayers, and your daughter also.
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WildKitty
London, KY
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hmm wrote: I am not trying to be mean or disrespectful, but in all honesty Heather had a LOT of problems too that she needed a lot of help for. They both had problems and both families probably could have done more to help. They were both grown adults though and therefore they could stay in that relationship if they chose to; which they did. I know you're angry and it's easy to blame everyone right now, and probably eases the pain some to have somewhere to direct your anger. But seriously, you know it's not easy to see the fault in your own children when they make very bad life choices and are in a bad place. It is a terrible situation and believe it or not people on the other side of this are suffering too. Whoever you are, you don't even need to be trying to make this Mom see another side. There is no other side that counts. He kiled her daughter. He needs to rot in hell. End of story.
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MyAdvice
London, KY
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Mom, always be there for her. Let her know that she deserves better treatment. That his abuse is not her fault and that when she is ready to leave, you will help her in anyway possible. Also, let her know that her family will be safe when she decides to leave him. Abusers learn that the one thing that hurts worse than the actual abuse is the abuse of a loved one. Say and do all of this and pray that it works. And try to get her talking to you about it. If a woman will talk about her abuse she doesn't usually feel the shame that she did earlier on in the abusive relationship. Be persistant and nonjudgemental toward her and she should come around. I know that you did not ask for my advice but I felt obligated to tell you how I got out. I will pray for your family.
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brokenhearted
Lorain, OH
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WildKitty wrote: <quoted text> Whoever you are, you don't even need to be trying to make this Mom see another side. There is no other side that counts. He kiled her daughter. He needs to rot in hell. End of story. I couldn't agree more. He didn't have to kill her, he could have let her leave, but oh no he had to show her who was boss.
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