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Jul 23, 2009 | Posted by: roboblogger

Alleged intruder shot to death in Cartersville

Full story: Richmond Register

A Paint Lick man was shot to death early Tuesday morning in Cartersville after he allegedly forced his way into a home, according to a Kentucky State Police report.

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Jul 23, 2009
 
good riddance to a piece of white trash that has stolen everything in the county! I guess no one has to worry about their property anymore, oh wait he has a son, my mistake.
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Jul 23, 2009
 
Is this Brandon Helton's dad?
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Wonder if this will teach the son a lesson? If i saw my father robbing someones house and then blown out the door with a shotgun, I would change my ways.
Good thing about Obama making the U.S. citizen so worried is that Gun sales has been at an all time High, along with Concealed Carry license. Theifs may not realize it but the Public is losing there money to the banks, feds and taxes and WILL NOT put up with some drug head crook taking what they have worked hard for!
If you are in my house or on my property after midnight....Your a DEADMAN....Dead folks can't testify against you! Good going Paintlick folks! Now if folks on the West side of berea would unload on a few crooks the police could clean up the blood and go back to hanging out at the station. Or directing traffic.
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ole plumber wrote:
Wonder if this will teach the son a lesson? If i saw my father robbing someones house and then blown out the door with a shotgun, I would change my ways.
Good thing about Obama making the U.S. citizen so worried is that Gun sales has been at an all time High, along with Concealed Carry license. Theifs may not realize it but the Public is losing there money to the banks, feds and taxes and WILL NOT put up with some drug head crook taking what they have worked hard for!
If you are in my house or on my property after midnight....Your a DEADMAN....Dead folks can't testify against you! Good going Paintlick folks! Now if folks on the West side of berea would unload on a few crooks the police could clean up the blood and go back to hanging out at the station. Or directing traffic.
Yea...hope that works out well for you there Sparky. For your info you can only use deadly force if someone is in your house with a deadly weapon. Then it is legal. If they are out in your yard, even if they are trying to steal something...which would be pretty hard to prove if they don't get away with it..YOU will be convicted of misuse of deadly force and you will be going away for a VERY VERY long time. PLUS, the family can sue your ass off and end up with everything you own in a wrongful death suit. You are getting Kentucky law mixed up with Texas law. If this was Texas, it would be different. Oh, and if it's the banksters and the fed who are robbing you, why don't you rise up like the founding fathers would have done and shoot them instead?! Oh I forgot, you, and the rest of the gun slingers are deep down COWARDS. It's OK if someone steals $70,000 of your retirement just as long as they don't try and steal your lawnmower...which is OK, by the way, to take a life for.
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The man was wearing a ski mask and carrying a crowbar. He broke in the back door of the residence and was shot.

I say an open and shut case of rightful home defense.
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Yea...hope that works out well for you there Sparky. For your info you can only use deadly force if someone is in your house with a deadly weapon. Then it is legal. If they are out in your yard, even if they are trying to steal something...which would be pretty hard to prove if they don't get away with it..YOU will be convicted of misuse of deadly force and you will be going away for a VERY VERY long time. PLUS, the family can sue your ass off and end up with everything you own in a wrongful death suit. You are getting Kentucky law mixed up with Texas law. If this was Texas, it would be different. Oh, and if it's the banksters and the fed who are robbing you, why don't you rise up like the founding fathers would have done and shoot them instead?! Oh I forgot, you, and the rest of the gun slingers are deep down COWARDS. It's OK if someone steals $70,000 of your retirement just as long as they don't try and steal your lawnmower...which is OK, by the way, to take a life for.
seems like you just want to attack gun owners. This man shot a guy for breaking and entering, but there was a good chance that the man could have beaten the home owner to death with the crow bar. Elderly people are killed all the time by intruders. And what was he supposed to do, when there were 2 more people with the intruder. Your outnumbered, you cant exactly put the three of them on citizens arrest. This was not a case of killing someone over a lawn mower. This man felt that for his safety he had to shoot, and the State Police agreed with him. It very easily could have been a different story. The three of them could have beaten him down, the only reason this home owner is alive is because of his shotgun. if he confronted them without it, he would have been the one dead. Dead people are terrible witnesses, and the criminals know that too. You know how many killings go unsolved in this area.
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yep wrote:
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seems like you just want to attack gun owners. This man shot a guy for breaking and entering, but there was a good chance that the man could have beaten the home owner to death with the crow bar. Elderly people are killed all the time by intruders. And what was he supposed to do, when there were 2 more people with the intruder. Your outnumbered, you cant exactly put the three of them on citizens arrest. This was not a case of killing someone over a lawn mower. This man felt that for his safety he had to shoot, and the State Police agreed with him. It very easily could have been a different story. The three of them could have beaten him down, the only reason this home owner is alive is because of his shotgun. if he confronted them without it, he would have been the one dead. Dead people are terrible witnesses, and the criminals know that too. You know how many killings go unsolved in this area.
I am a gun owner. In fact I own an AK 47 copy. However, I would not wait inside a house I own, that I did not live in, that was being remodeled, just to waste someone with the self defense excuse. The man set up, with premeditation, a trap/stake out to "justly" kill someone. It was not like he was laying in a warm bed, in the middle of the night, heard a disturbance and grabbed a gun to protect himself. That is justified. Setting up a stake out to kill someone trying to carry out a robbery on an unoccupied house, is not the same. You people supporting this had better think twice.. You all had better know the law before you start killing people for what you think is justified. The law might not agree with you and it will only affect the gun owning public as a whole.
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I am a gun owner. In fact I own an AK 47 copy. However, I would not wait inside a house I own, that I did not live in, that was being remodeled, just to waste someone with the self defense excuse. The man set up, with premeditation, a trap/stake out to "justly" kill someone. It was not like he was laying in a warm bed, in the middle of the night, heard a disturbance and grabbed a gun to protect himself. That is justified. Setting up a stake out to kill someone trying to carry out a robbery on an unoccupied house, is not the same. You people supporting this had better think twice.. You all had better know the law before you start killing people for what you think is justified. The law might not agree with you and it will only affect the gun owning public as a whole.
If the house belonged to the man, it doesn't matter what he was doing in it. Even if he was waiting for some lowlife to break in based on a tip, he had every right to shoot the guy that broke in. Plain and simple. If I knew some thieving piece of scum was planning on breaking into a house that I owned, I would do the same thing.
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I am a gun owner. In fact I own an AK 47 copy. However, I would not wait inside a house I own, that I did not live in, that was being remodeled, just to waste someone with the self defense excuse. The man set up, with premeditation, a trap/stake out to "justly" kill someone. It was not like he was laying in a warm bed, in the middle of the night, heard a disturbance and grabbed a gun to protect himself. That is justified. Setting up a stake out to kill someone trying to carry out a robbery on an unoccupied house, is not the same. You people supporting this had better think twice.. You all had better know the law before you start killing people for what you think is justified. The law might not agree with you and it will only affect the gun owning public as a whole.
It is sad that the poor guy lost his life. Who knows if that guy didnt protect himself we would be hearing about a man found dead and they dont know who did it...
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lol--Must have the crooks skeered already--They are quoting law and talkin ak-47's. Bet you hold your tec 9 sideways when you shoot also moonshiner? I'm old enough, worked hard enough and no longer give a whoop about these hoods. They have roobed my building three times, stole THOUSNADS OF DOLLARS IN TOOLS AND COPPER. just to buy another pill...Sparky--lol I'm a plumber not an electrician? I'm just tired of having my stuff stole and the Police not really giving a hoot. Figure if the think about me shooting it up like the wild west, they may patrol the west side a little more--not a bad thing....Moonshiner--Do you really feel sorry for a crook?
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Tinky Winky wrote:
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If the house belonged to the man, it doesn't matter what he was doing in it. Even if he was waiting for some lowlife to break in based on a tip, he had every right to shoot the guy that broke in. Plain and simple. If I knew some thieving piece of scum was planning on breaking into a house that I owned, I would do the same thing.
And you may very well go to jail for MANY years..What is it that you do not understand? THE ONLY RIGHT YOU HAVE TO KILL SOMEONE IS IF THEY HAVE A WEAPON AND you are afraid for your life IN THE HOUSE YOU LIVE IN. Try this "THEORY" you have on your garage...kill someone trying to break into your garage and see where you wind up! If someone has a club, comes into your yard and you kill them...guess who is going to JAIL for a very very long time for misuse of deadly force? YOU! You can shoot them and wound them but if you kill them....it will be YOU who loses everything. It is YOU....You gun slinging COWARDS who do not know the law...that will cause the loss of the second amendment rights...Watch and see!
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lol--Must have the crooks skeered already--They are quoting law and talkin ak-47's. Bet you hold your tec 9 sideways when you shoot also moonshiner? I'm old enough, worked hard enough and no longer give a whoop about these hoods. They have roobed my building three times, stole THOUSNADS OF DOLLARS IN TOOLS AND COPPER. just to buy another pill...Sparky--lol I'm a plumber not an electrician? I'm just tired of having my stuff stole and the Police not really giving a hoot. Figure if the think about me shooting it up like the wild west, they may patrol the west side a little more--not a bad thing....Moonshiner--Do you really feel sorry for a crook?
I don't feel sorry for a crook. For your info, I knew the guy that got shot and he was always trouble. His bad habits ran in the family. He should have been locked up a long time ago. But your ignorant ass needs to learn the law regarding deadly force before you go and get in trouble. If you start shooting it up like the wild west, the only person they will be looking for IS YOU! A few of these cases is all they need before local politics get involved and with a socialist president in office, itching to get guns banned, who will provide the excuse? A bunch of meth users looking for something to steal...NO...they will be dead. It will be the gun owning public who do not understand the laws that will cause the "reason" for the confiscation. If they come in your house with a weapon...smoke em. Otherwise, let judgement rule.

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Ok LAW correction here people....
You can ONLY use deadly force when protecting your SELF OR OTHER'S lives, NOT PROPERTY. Texas does have the "Make My Day Law", in which you may use deadly force against anyone intruding upon your property, but as of yet, KY does not. As far as a crow bar being a deadly weapon, that's up to the County Attorney to prove the man had intent to harm another with it.
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I can tell you right now if someone comes to my house and tries to break in they will be shot. I never felt that way until I found out when you live in the country you can't get help fast enough when you call 911.
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I personally would use deadly force to protect my family But is a lawnmower or any worldly thing worth another persons life?I really don't know how I would feel I have never been robbed but I don't think I have anything worth a persons life.
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I can tell you right now if someone comes to my house and tries to break in they will be shot. I never felt that way until I found out when you live in the country you can't get help fast enough when you call 911.
And when you do, you may very well be prosecuted...DO YOU UNDERSTAND??!!! AND , if you wound them, even on the porch, DO YOU UNDERSTAND THAT THE FAMILY OF THE ONE YOU KILL CAN sue the pants off you for everything you have?! If you understand all of this and will deal with the ramifications, then fire away blindly at everything that goes bump in the night. I hope that you have more reasoning skills...
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Ok LAW correction here people....
You can ONLY use deadly force when protecting your SELF OR OTHER'S lives, NOT PROPERTY. Texas does have the "Make My Day Law", in which you may use deadly force against anyone intruding upon your property, but as of yet, KY does not. As far as a crow bar being a deadly weapon, that's up to the County Attorney to prove the man had intent to harm another with it.
if the individual has a lengthy criminal background then yes a crow bar would be considered a deadly weapon.
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Moonshiner wrote:
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I am a gun owner. In fact I own an AK 47 copy. However, I would not wait inside a house I own, that I did not live in, that was being remodeled, just to waste someone with the self defense excuse. The man set up, with premeditation, a trap/stake out to "justly" kill someone. It was not like he was laying in a warm bed, in the middle of the night, heard a disturbance and grabbed a gun to protect himself. That is justified. Setting up a stake out to kill someone trying to carry out a robbery on an unoccupied house, is not the same. You people supporting this had better think twice.. You all had better know the law before you start killing people for what you think is justified. The law might not agree with you and it will only affect the gun owning public as a whole.
You have a point. The question is, does the castle law cover a house you own but are not living in currently.
I still believe that this is justified though, the home owner had every right to be in the home that night, and in the middle of the night a strange man with a mask and crowbar come in with two accomplices. Maybe his motives were to stake the place out, but he has the right to defend himself and maybe he felt that his life was threatened. Many times a simple b@e ends up with elderly people being killed.

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Only if (big if) the criminal had a lengthy violent history....like armed robbery and hurt someone.
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if the individual has a lengthy criminal background then yes a crow bar would be considered a deadly weapon.
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Only if (big if) the criminal had a lengthy violent history....like armed robbery and hurt someone.
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How would you know his criminal history or background when you shot him? I am a little confused on that one. There are some key things to defending your home and if you read the KRS you will understand. I do agree that shooting someone for just stealing your lawn mower would not be good. If they were breaking into your house, I think that would be a different matter. If my house gets broken into and I am home I will protect myself.
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