Franklin County jobless rate at highest level in 25 years

VOTE REPUBLICAN!

A Talking Horse wrote:

VOTE REPUBLICAN!

Here's your nut...

Yep, 1984 Reagan was riding the wave to economic recovery from the Carter Recession.

3 1/2 years after takin office, the jobless rate was still at record numbers.

Come on Republians. If your God of Economics could not solve the Carter Recession in 3 1/2 years, why do you think a lowly Democrat could solve the larger, more complex Bush Recession in 9 months?

Just askin.

Media and politicians scared the public and they quit spending. Result is more layoffs, etc. Solution is to start spending - so hit the malls and the car lots and this will lead to recovery. Basic economics.

Dave wrote:

Yep, 1984 Reagan was riding the wave to economic recovery from the Carter Recession.
3 1/2 years after takin office, the jobless rate was still at record numbers.
Come on Republians. If your God of Economics could not solve the Carter Recession in 3 1/2 years, why do you think a lowly Democrat could solve the larger, more complex Bush Recession in 9 months?
Just askin.

One word --'''promises''--- as in unemployment not over 8% if we pass the stimulus bill with out reading it!

Another lie in a long list of lies!

Unemployment rate per State:
http://www.bls.gov/web/laumstrk.htm
At least we aren't as bad as Michigan!

Dave wrote:

Yep, 1984 Reagan was riding the wave to economic recovery from the Carter Recession.
3 1/2 years after takin office, the jobless rate was still at record numbers.
Come on Republians. If your God of Economics could not solve the Carter Recession in 3 1/2 years, why do you think a lowly Democrat could solve the larger, more complex Bush Recession in 9 months?
Just askin.

''''3 1/2 years after takin office, the jobless rate was still at record numbers''''

Mpre ABS from you know who!! What? Do you consider 7.2 % record unemployment levels --- LIE LIE LIE ..

You are the biggest liar I ever seen!

The employment situation in 1984 reflected extraordinary rates of employment growth in the first 2 quarters, a pause in the summer months, and additional employment growth in the last quarter of the year. Total civilian employment, as measured by the Current Population Survey, stood at 106.0 million in the fourth quarter after seasonal adjustment. Employees on nonagricultural payrolls,as measured by the Current Employment Statistics program, totaled 95.5 milion of yearend. Both series were up by about 7 million from the trought of the 1981-82 recession.

At 8.2 million in the fourth quarter, unemployment was down about 1.3 million from the year before and more than 3.5 million from the recession trough. At year's end, the rate of unemployment in the total labor force was 7.1 percent; it was 7.2 percent for the civilian labor force. These indicators were down 1.3 percentage points from the fourth quarter of 1983.

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1153/i...

YOU WILL NOTICE THERE IS NO DEMOCRATIC LIES ABOUT CREATING /AND/OR SAVING JOBS BS!!

Reagan didn't have to resort to lies and guessing games for employment numbers..........

About now I wish we had ''your record unemployment'' numbers of 7.2%----

Why do you say things like what you did, when it's so easy to find the truth??
Pathetic!

No one has been able to explain how you quantify a "saved" job.

LIL JOHN wrote:

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One word --'''promises''--- as in unemployment not over 8% if we pass the stimulus bill with out reading it!
Another lie in a long list of lies!

First of all, they PREDICTED in January that the unemployment would reach 9% if nothing was done. They said their stimulus would reduce that rate 1% to 8%. That prediction was confirmed by the CBO who also used that 9% ceiling & said the stimulus would reduce the rate between 1/2 & 1 1/2%.

Why would they lie about the 9%? Why wouldn't they over estimate because then it would make them look better if the rate was lower? Think about it.

John Boy thinks every weatherman is a liar. As is every sports analysist who predict the outcomes of games.

Nice spin Dave.

LIL JOHN wrote:

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''''3 1/2 years after takin office, the jobless rate was still at record numbers''''
Mpre ABS from you know who!! What? Do you consider 7.2 % record unemployment levels --- LIE LIE LIE ..
You are the biggest liar I ever seen!
The employment situation in 1984 reflected extraordinary rates of employment growth in the first 2 quarters, a pause in the summer months, and additional employment growth in the last quarter of the year. Total civilian employment, as measured by the Current Population Survey, stood at 106.0 million in the fourth quarter after seasonal adjustment. Employees on nonagricultural payrolls,as measured by the Current Employment Statistics program, totaled 95.5 milion of yearend. Both series were up by about 7 million from the trought of the 1981-82 recession.
At 8.2 million in the fourth quarter, unemployment was down about 1.3 million from the year before and more than 3.5 million from the recession trough. At year's end, the rate of unemployment in the total labor force was 7.1 percent; it was 7.2 percent for the civilian labor force. These indicators were down 1.3 percentage points from the fourth quarter of 1983.
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1153/i...
YOU WILL NOTICE THERE IS NO DEMOCRATIC LIES ABOUT CREATING /AND/OR SAVING JOBS BS!!
Reagan didn't have to resort to lies and guessing games for employment numbers..........
About now I wish we had ''your record unemployment'' numbers of 7.2%----
Why do you say things like what you did, when it's so easy to find the truth??
Pathetic!

I went with the article about Franklin County. They said highest in 25 years. I assumed that was a record for Franklin County but if you want to tell me Franklin County had even worse rates under Reagan, I guess that makes my point even more.

nationally, the rate was 9.7% in June of 1983 which I believe was close to peak under Reagain, 2 1/2 years after taking office. Unless you are telling me that it was really the Reagan Reccesion and not the Carter Recession.

Reagan's stimulus passed in August of 2001. Tell me, how long did it take Reagan's stimulus to start to lower the unemployent rate?

Dave wrote:

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I went with the article about Franklin County. They said highest in 25 years. I assumed that was a record for Franklin County but if you want to tell me Franklin County had even worse rates under Reagan, I guess that makes my point even more.
nationally, the rate was 9.7% in June of 1983 which I believe was close to peak under Reagain, 2 1/2 years after taking office. Unless you are telling me that it was really the Reagan Reccesion and not the Carter Recession.
Reagan's stimulus passed in August of 2001. Tell me, how long did it take Reagan's stimulus to start to lower the unemployent rate?

Reagan's stimulus passed in August of 2001. Tell me, how long did it take Reagan's stimulus to start to lower the unemployent rate?

WHAT?
Care to try again?

LIL JOHN wrote:

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Reagan's stimulus passed in August of 2001. Tell me, how long did it take Reagan's stimulus to start to lower the unemployent rate?
WHAT?
Care to try again?

Yearly rates:

1980 (pre Reagan) 7.1
1981 7.6
1982 9.7
1083 9.6

I'm still looking for te monthly reports.

Dave wrote:

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First of all, they PREDICTED in January that the unemployment would reach 9% if nothing was done. They said their stimulus would reduce that rate 1% to 8%. That prediction was confirmed by the CBO who also used that 9% ceiling & said the stimulus would reduce the rate between 1/2 & 1 1/2%.

CBO’s Economic Projections for Calendar Years 2009 to 2019
Unemployment 8.3%- 2009
Statement of
Robert A. Sunshine
Acting Director
The Budget and Economic Outlook:
Fiscal Years 2009 to 2019
January 8, 2009
http://www.cbo.gov/ftpdocs/99xx/doc9958/01-08...
You'll notice that this is even before Obama is was sworn in!!
Remarks of President-Elect Barack Obama
Radio Address
Saturday, January 10, 2008
Washington, DC
I asked my nominee for Chair of the Council of Economic Advisers, Dr. Christina Romer, and the Vice President-Elect’s Chief Economic Adviser, Dr. Jared Bernstein, to conduct a rigorous analysis of this plan and come up with projections of how many jobs it will create – and what kind of jobs they will be. Today, I am releasing a report of their findings so that the American people can see exactly what this plan will mean for their families, their communities, and our economy.
The report confirms that our plan will likely save or create three to four million jobs. 90 percent of these jobs will be created in the private sector – the remaining 10 percent are mainly public sector jobs we save, like the teachers, police officers, firefighters and others who provide vital services in our communities.
http://change.gov/newsroom/entry/your_weekly_...
LOLOLLLLLOLLOLLLLLLLOLLLLL
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Obama's Stimulus Promise: More Than 600,000 Jobs
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At the time, our forecast seemed reasonable," Vice President Joe Biden's top economic adviser, Jared Bernstein, said Monday, explaining that the White House underestimated the scope of the recession. "Now, looking back, it was clearly too optimistic."
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Even the huffington post was laughing at Obama's forecast
The forecasts used to drum up support for the plan projected today's unemployment would be about 8 percent
By now, according to earlier White House economic models, the nation's unemployment rate should be on the decline. The forecasts used to drum up support for the plan projected today's unemployment would be about 8 percent. Instead, it sits at 9.4 percent, the highest in more than 25 years.
Some analysts believe the White House is still not being realistic, that Obama will be lucky if any real job creation from his recovery effort is seen by the end of the year, let alone the employment explosion he predicts.
Read more at: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/06/08/obam...
BRETT J. BLACKLEDGE and MATT APUZZO | June 8, 2009 09:40 PM EST
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The smoking gun for Obama -- His economic advisor, Romer!!
''''She predicted unemployment would reach 8 percent in 2009''''
Romer predicts negative -1.2 percent GDP growth for 2009, but said it would be back up in 2010,+3.2 percent, and +4.0 percent in 2011.
She predicted unemployment would reach 8 percent in 2009, then would go down only slightly in 2010 to 7.9 percent.
Then: 2011 - 7.1 percent; 2012 - 6 percent; 2013 - 5.2 percent.
When asked, Romer said her projections were not in any way overly rosy
http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2009/...
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And again in the white house briefing.....
For Immediate Release February 26, 2009
Now, even with the comprehensive recovery package, the unemployment rate is forecast to rise in the first half of 2009, just simply because output is continuing to fall. We anticipate that it will average just over 8 percent for 2009 as a whole.
http://www.whitehouse.gov/the_press_office/Pr...
So you are calling obama's choices for his economic advisers as bad as weather men ?? That funny if not down right ludicrous!

His claims were swallowed hook line and sinker by those who have no sense, liberals in congresss...

Year Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec Annual
1980 6.3 6.3 6.3 6.9 7.5 7.6 7.8 7.7 7.5 7.5 7.5 7.2
1981 7.5 7.4 7.4 7.2 7.5 7.5 7.2 7.4 7.6 7.9 8.3 8.5
1982 8.6 8.9 9.0 9.3 9.4 9.6 9.8 9.8 10.1 10.4 10.8 10.8
1983 10.4 10.4 10.3 10.2 10.1 10.1 9.4 9.5 9.2 8.8 8.5 8.3
1984 8.0 7.8 7.8 7.7 7.4 7.2 7.5 7.5 7.3 7.4 7.2 7.3
1985 7.3 7.2 7.2 7.3 7.2 7.4 7.4 7.1 7.1 7.1 7.0 7.0

Fron BLS.

Reagan's stimulus passes 8/81.

Unemployment peaked at 10.8% in Dec 82. 16 months after the bill passed.

Unemloyment rose by 3 points after it passed until any decline started.

Unemployment was over 10% two full years after passing the Regan stimulus.

Obama's stimulus passed Feb, 09. That gives obama until June of 2010 to get the unemployment number to strart trending down wards.

It gives until Feb of 2011 to get the unemployment rate to under 10% if & when it goes that high.

I mean really, that would equal Reagan's solution & you guys love Reagan.

If Obama beats those numbers, the Republicans will now have to worship Obama as the new God of Economics.

promises promises lolollolll

They are referring to a Jan. 9, 2009, report called "The Job Impact of the American Recovery and Reinvestment Plan" from Christina Romer, chairwoman of the president's Council of Economic Advisers, and Jared Bernstein, the vice president's top economic adviser.

Their report projected that the stimulus plan proposed by Obama would create between three and four million jobs by the end of 2010. The report also includes a graphic predicting unemployment rates with and without the stimulus. Without the stimulus (the baseline), unemployment was projected to hit about 8.5 percent in 2009 and then continue rising to a peak of about 9 percent in 2010. With the stimulus, they predicted the unemployment rate would peak at just under 8 percent in 2009.

But in June, the unemployment rate was 9.5 percent

In the past week, the administration has acknowledged its projections were wrong.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/state...

Sooooooo what else is wrong with other projections-- as in -- health care , cap and trade --- especially cap and trade that will cost further millions of jobs!

LIL JOHN wrote:

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CBO’s Economic Projections for Calendar Years 2009 to 2019
Unemployment 8.3%- 2009
Statement of
Robert A. Sunshine
Acting Director
The Budget and Economic Outlook:
Fiscal Years 2009 to 2019
January 8, 2009
http://www.cbo.gov/ftpdocs/99xx/doc9958/01-08...
You'll notice that this is even before Obama is was sworn in!!
Remarks of President-Elect Barack Obama
Radio Address
Saturday, January 10, 2008
Washington, DC
I asked my nominee for Chair of the Council of Economic Advisers, Dr. Christina Romer, and the Vice President-Elect’s Chief Economic Adviser, Dr. Jared Bernstein, to conduct a rigorous analysis of this plan and come up with projections of how many jobs it will create – and what kind of jobs they will be. Today, I am releasing a report of their findings so that the American people can see exactly what this plan will mean for their families, their communities, and our economy.
The report confirms that our plan will likely save or create three to four million jobs. 90 percent of these jobs will be created in the private sector – the remaining 10 percent are mainly public sector jobs we save, like the teachers, police officers, firefighters and others who provide vital services in our communities.
http://change.gov/newsroom/entry/your_weekly_...
LOLOLLLLLOLLOLLLLLLLOLLLLL
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Obama's Stimulus Promise: More Than 600,000 Jobs
digg Huffpost - Obama's Stimulus Promise: More Than 600,000 Jobs stumble reddit
At the time, our forecast seemed reasonable," Vice President Joe Biden's top economic adviser, Jared Bernstein, said Monday, explaining that the White House underestimated the scope of the recession. "Now, looking back, it was clearly too optimistic."
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You own post has the CBO predicting 8.3 %. I guess they were liars too.

Its all predictions not promises like you said. Predictions the White House admitted were not correct as hey were based on the information available at that time.

Dave wrote:

Year Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec Annual
1980 6.3 6.3 6.3 6.9 7.5 7.6 7.8 7.7 7.5 7.5 7.5 7.2
1981 7.5 7.4 7.4 7.2 7.5 7.5 7.2 7.4 7.6 7.9 8.3 8.5
1982 8.6 8.9 9.0 9.3 9.4 9.6 9.8 9.8 10.1 10.4 10.8 10.8
1983 10.4 10.4 10.3 10.2 10.1 10.1 9.4 9.5 9.2 8.8 8.5 8.3
1984 8.0 7.8 7.8 7.7 7.4 7.2 7.5 7.5 7.3 7.4 7.2 7.3
1985 7.3 7.2 7.2 7.3 7.2 7.4 7.4 7.1 7.1 7.1 7.0 7.0
Fron BLS.
Reagan's stimulus passes 8/81.
Unemployment peaked at 10.8% in Dec 82. 16 months after the bill passed.
Unemloyment rose by 3 points after it passed until any decline started.
Unemployment was over 10% two full years after passing the Regan stimulus.
Obama's stimulus passed Feb, 09. That gives obama until June of 2010 to get the unemployment number to strart trending down wards.
It gives until Feb of 2011 to get the unemployment rate to under 10% if & when it goes that high.
I mean really, that would equal Reagan's solution & you guys love Reagan.
If Obama beats those numbers, the Republicans will now have to worship Obama as the new God of Economics.

The point is the utter ridculous promise obama made to get the stimulus rushed through congress without anyone reading it!
The better part of a trillion dollars wasted with no jobs for the effort!!

Dave wrote:

Year Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec Annual
1980 6.3 6.3 6.3 6.9 7.5 7.6 7.8 7.7 7.5 7.5 7.5 7.2
1981 7.5 7.4 7.4 7.2 7.5 7.5 7.2 7.4 7.6 7.9 8.3 8.5
1982 8.6 8.9 9.0 9.3 9.4 9.6 9.8 9.8 10.1 10.4 10.8 10.8
1983 10.4 10.4 10.3 10.2 10.1 10.1 9.4 9.5 9.2 8.8 8.5 8.3
1984 8.0 7.8 7.8 7.7 7.4 7.2 7.5 7.5 7.3 7.4 7.2 7.3
1985 7.3 7.2 7.2 7.3 7.2 7.4 7.4 7.1 7.1 7.1 7.0 7.0
Fron BLS.
Reagan's stimulus passes 8/81.
Unemployment peaked at 10.8% in Dec 82. 16 months after the bill passed.
Unemloyment rose by 3 points after it passed until any decline started.
Unemployment was over 10% two full years after passing the Regan stimulus.
Obama's stimulus passed Feb, 09. That gives obama until June of 2010 to get the unemployment number to strart trending down wards.
It gives until Feb of 2011 to get the unemployment rate to under 10% if & when it goes that high.
I mean really, that would equal Reagan's solution & you guys love Reagan.
If Obama beats those numbers, the Republicans will now have to worship Obama as the new God of Economics.

That's not fair, too many confusing numbers, you tool. Nobody beats Reagan, except maybe Sarah. WOOO HOOOO!!!! More spin from the libertard, Dave. LOLOLOLLLL